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Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:18 am

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In post 1669, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 1665, Datisi wrote:WHY is it tanking??? WHY does it feel like every single game relevant thought you put into this thread was pulled out of your ass 3 seconds earlier without any cohesion whatsoever????
because this is the second vote you’ve made on me now and the first one fucking sucked and here you are again back on board datisi that’s why

i’m literally playing on my fucking 15 min break and don’t exactly have time to go back and hard reread and i’ve been trying my best to get back into a game to be helpful
This post is incredibly towny. Reason being is that the anger behind this post is solely due to Datisi incorrectly scumreading Ydrasse. Ydrasse does not get mad about this if Datisi simply has a correct scumread. She
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Scum can be frustrated if they think the push is unfair or based on bad reasons. but Ydrasse isn't even talking about any reasons, she's just frustrated about the push itself because she knows it's wrong

Basically, the self-righteousness is really towny

and I don't think Ydrasse has ever faked this kind of thing as scum
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Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:21 am

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any investors for a Bulge wagon?
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Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:24 am

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In post 1675, Augustus Caesar wrote:Ydrasse does not get mad about this if Datisi simply has a correct scumread.
what.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:26 am

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I don't think she blows up the same way if she's just being correctly pushed as scum

Do you?
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Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:28 am

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i don't see why not??
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:30 am

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It's a pretty common tell. Scum don't feel genuine rage when being pushed, and usually have to fake it, while town do all the time. It's the feeling of being "right" and knowing the accuser is wrong

Ydrasse hasn't faked it in any of her scumgames previously
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Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:32 am

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I mean, it obviously depends on the player a lot. Norwee is someone who this tell works on 100% of the time.

kuribo is a person this tell does not work on at all

Ydrasse is someone who has never reacted in this manner as scum. She'll act sad, but never ragey
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Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:35 am

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Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to solve the game, not to wolf it.
The evil mafia do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let a normal roguelike be a clean sweep.
Isis told you Caesar was ambitious:
If it is so, it is a grievous fault,
And grievously has Caesar answer’d it.
But all hope is not yet lost, a light shines;
Augustus, he opens up monstertrain,
His heart is in the coffin there with petapan,
And he must pause till it come back to him.

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Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:37 am

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In post 1681, Augustus Caesar wrote:I mean, it obviously depends on the player a lot. Norwee is someone who this tell works on 100% of the time.

kuribo is a person this tell does not work on at all

Ydrasse is someone who has never reacted in this manner as scum. She'll act sad, but never ragey
So the QUESTION is whether Ydrasse is faking her anger in the last page of posting, and it doesn't look fake to me.

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Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:40 am

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it doesn't look fake. it also doesn't look genuine. it looks utterly nai to me.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:44 am

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In post 1680, Augustus Caesar wrote:It's a pretty common tell. Scum don't feel genuine rage when being pushed, and usually have to fake it, while town do all the time. It's the feeling of being "right" and knowing the accuser is wrong

Ydrasse hasn't faked it in any of her scumgames previously
do you in general agree/disagree with this point?
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Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:48 am

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in general? sure, scum don't feel genuine rage at being pushed, and would more often than not have to fake it.

before you ask, the issue is that that is probably the only thing going for ydrasse right now. i already think she's scummy, and if i'm right, she's faked it before. don't see why this should change my mind.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:49 am

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Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:49 am

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Are we still going to get our first mislynch today?
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Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:50 am

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I townread Datisi and Hectic. My team is strongly townread Adorable. Maybe I can start from here.
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Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:51 am

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That leaves:

Sirius9121
Aristophanes
Summer Nights
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xRECKONERx
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Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 am

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Damn, we won't be so good if we mislynch today.
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Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:53 am

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I think the context is different to day 1 where her anger was a result of her being the counterwagon to an essentially doomed scumslot with a scummy claim. Whereas here, it's just a reaction to being pushed.

This is how she reacted to being pushed for weeks in her last scumgame:
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You can just read almost any post on page 3 of 4 of her ISO

this is a SUSTAINED push and there is no rage in there, only some sad AtE

I know it's hard to townread her for her solving, but I've found a really good reason to actually think she's town, so that shouldn't be ignored because of trying to view her as a "whole"
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Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:53 am

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Should vote Bulge with me, Creature
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Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:55 am

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fuck this game

VOTE: bulge
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Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:55 am

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In post 1690, Creature wrote:That leaves:

Sirius9121
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Meh, out of these Reck probably is never getting lynched today even if I had a tinfoil on them. Like everyone else there is still on the table.
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Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:55 am

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In post 1694, Datisi wrote:fuck this game

VOTE: bulge
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Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:55 am

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In post 1693, Augustus Caesar wrote:Should vote Bulge with me, Creature
I want the VC just to be safe
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Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:56 am

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They have 2 votes on them now
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Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:57 am

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In post 1649, Ydrasse wrote:am at work rn VOTE: xofelf

xof teetered on me back and forth for the game, defending sometimes sometimes not, their name got floated around and they came around and had suddenly decided i’m scum and now here we are

idk how they reacted around rce but i can read when i’m home, just like. ya
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