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You said fl was lurking in plain site, not just lurking. This is incorrect. He made four posts before you voted for him (one of these was him conforming). He was not lurking in plain site. If he was active, making posts constantly, and simply adding nothing to the game, then you would be correct. But tomato even asked FL to be prodded. You were skewing the situation.- scotmany12
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No no one on my wagon has really explained why its a good one. Flameaxe says he is voting for me because he is gay, IH has simply said that his vote is a good vote, and then you and has are voting for me while there are tons of others not contributing as well. So yeah, no one has explained why I should have a wagon yet.Simenon wrote:
Maybe you should have paid more attention.stark wrote: I missed why scot should have a wagon though..- scotmany12
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Wait, are you too busy or do you just lac interest in the game?Tomato wrote:
I'm too busyFlameaxe wrote:
Tomorrow, eh? *cough*Tomato wrote:I added my name because I don't think I'm posting enough content, and that's a bit of a reminder for me to do so. Which is hopefully coming tomorrow.
So far, all I've done is prod lurkers, which is not content.
Coming tomorrow or else.
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Try again. This does not explain why you think I am scum.Simenon wrote:
Well for one thing this argument has been less than stellar.scotmany12 wrote:
And your point is? How exactly does this make me scum?Simenon wrote:
And now you are contributing because of the bandwagon. This is what bandwagons do.scotmany12 wrote:I had nothing to contribute on. I was going to lie and comment on something that meant nothing to me.- scotmany12
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I'm not being dense at all. You go from say that the pressure on me has caused me to post more, and then when I ask you how that makes me scum, you reply with saying that the argument is less than stellar. That means absolutely nothing. How exactly does this make me dense?Simenon wrote:
Yes, it does. You were being deliberately dense, and apparently you're keeping up the act.scotmany12 wrote: Try again. This does not explain why you think I am scum.- scotmany12
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Maybe you should try proving that you are town fuzzylightning? Who has proved that they were town so far? You are asking me to do something I simply can't do. I can argue my point which I have been trying to do, but short of that I can't "prove" that I am town. And since no one has really proved that they are town, should you not be believing everyone is scum then?fuzzylightning wrote:2. I am not sure how he could do this. Currently it seems like he is making an argument that really isn't there, I can't well tell him, here is how you prove that you are town, he just needs to provide some reasoning that would lead people to believe that he is town, providing that he really is town.
3. If someone is not town, you should lynch them, isn't that the point of mafia, the town lynches the scum and the scum tries to get a mislynch. If he is not proving that he is town, then I believe that he really isn't town, and therefore should be lynched.- scotmany12
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Sorry for doulb epost; forgot to copy and paste together.
What? I'm trying to defend myself from the small amount of accusations made against me. You expect me as town to just sit and let people vote for me? No, I'm going to try to defend myself. I'm not arguing for you just for the sake of arguing; I'm trying to convince you and everyone else that I am town.Simenon wrote:
A bad argument doesn't actually tell us anything about alignment. It begins to, though, when the poor argument is made on purpose. I don't think we would be having this argument if you were town, so that leaves you being a scum trying to have the argument.scotmany12 wrote:
I'm not being dense at all. You go from say that the pressure on me has caused me to post more, and then when I ask you how that makes me scum, you reply with saying that the argument is less than stellar. That means absolutely nothing. How exactly does this make me dense?Simenon wrote:
Yes, it does. You were being deliberately dense, and apparently you're keeping up the act.scotmany12 wrote: Try again. This does not explain why you think I am scum.- scotmany12
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I want you to respond to this fuzzy.scotmany12 wrote:
Maybe you should try proving that you are town fuzzylightning? Who has proved that they were town so far? You are asking me to do something I simply can't do. I can argue my point which I have been trying to do, but short of that I can't "prove" that I am town. And since no one has really proved that they are town, should you not be believing everyone is scum then?fuzzylightning wrote:2. I am not sure how he could do this. Currently it seems like he is making an argument that really isn't there, I can't well tell him, here is how you prove that you are town, he just needs to provide some reasoning that would lead people to believe that he is town, providing that he really is town.
3. If someone is not town, you should lynch them, isn't that the point of mafia, the town lynches the scum and the scum tries to get a mislynch. If he is not proving that he is town, then I believe that he really isn't town, and therefore should be lynched.- scotmany12
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I think it is when I was answering a question that sim posed to me.hasdgfas wrote:
Maybe it was unnecessary, but coming in to say "there's nothing to comment on" is also unnecessary.Sim wrote:2. Scot's response to this was absolutely right. "are you lazy or just unobservant" was a really snide and unnecessary comment.
hasdgfas wrote:@Simenon: As I was rereading, I saw this comment just a little earlier that you made.
If you sense there are scum on the fuzzywagon, why are you not voting for someone on it?Simenon wrote:
1. I sense there are scum on the wagon.Why are you opposed to fuzzy?
Also, it is possible for you to be scum and for scum to be on the fuzzy wagon. Perhaps sim thinks you are scum with someone on the wagon.[/i]Simenon wrote:
WE HAVE A DEADLINE IN SIX DAYS. *****SIX DAYS****Stark wrote:Uhh.. It's me and peg at last count. Thanks man. That's exactly why you're going after everyone else?- scotmany12
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You refusing to explain your vote only gives me more confidence in mine.Lord Gurgi wrote:
Meh. Your vote is on me because IH needed replacing, and because he never explained a vote. I don't need to give you anything. Try again when you have some decent reasoning behind yours.scotmany12 wrote:
Mind explaining why?Lord Gurgi wrote:Yo. Reread. Scum is fuzzylightning and Simenon. I'll start with Simenon.Vote: Simenon.- scotmany12
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. I looked at IHs post because Gurgi said he needed replacing, which I take as him saying he was inactive. This is not the case. IH was around the site during and before deadline. He did not switch his vote to fuzzy, and I'm going to hold this against him. Regardless this does not change the fact that Gurgi basically refused to explain his vote. When someone asks you to do something, you do it unless you have a good reason not to. Saying you didn't give good reasons for a vote so I won't even explain mine is not a good reason.MadCrawdad wrote:So my question is if Gurgi's refusal was such an obvious scum move, why does it look like you started working so quickly to bolster your case on IH/Gurgi after Gurgi pointed out that it was lacking- scotmany12
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You really aren't making much sense right now. At all.MadCrawdad wrote:
The point is, that although you call his move scummy, it seems to have inspired to do some work rather quickly. For disagreeing with him, it looks like you may have been trying to indulge him afterall.scotmany12 wrote:Regardless this does not change the fact that Gurgi basically refused to explain his vote. When someone asks you to do something, you do it unless you have a good reason not to. Saying you didn't give good reasons for a vote so I won't even explain mine is not a good reason.- scotmany12
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I didn't add anything new. You simply misread it as me voting for IH because he needed replacement, which was never the case. And instead of saying that it sucks, how bout you explain why it sucks. And you still have not explained your vote on sim. I can't understand why you would refuse to do this if you were town.Lord Gurgi wrote:
It makes perfect sense. Suddenly you add more to your argument as soon as I say it sucks. Even now, it's pretty horrible, but the point is, that you only sought out information once you had to.scotmany12 wrote:
You really aren't making much sense right now. At all.MadCrawdad wrote:
The point is, that although you call his move scummy, it seems to have inspired to do some work rather quickly. For disagreeing with him, it looks like you may have been trying to indulge him afterall.scotmany12 wrote:Regardless this does not change the fact that Gurgi basically refused to explain his vote. When someone asks you to do something, you do it unless you have a good reason not to. Saying you didn't give good reasons for a vote so I won't even explain mine is not a good reason.- scotmany12
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I'm actually straight...anyways, I'm not that worried about flameaxe as he always does shit like this. Much more concerned about Gurgi right now.MadCrawdad wrote:In addition to Gurgi not giving a reason for his vote, neither has Flameaxe (unless Scot's sexuality really could really have a correlation with his role assignment).- scotmany12
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If I'm not mistaken, you have just stated that there was a total of three scum, and you appear fairly confident in that. How do you know that there is only one scum left?hasdgfas wrote:Both of the dead scum went after fuzzy, and were on his wagon at the end of Day 1. I'd suspect the other scum would be out by himself trying not to look so suspicious if fuzzy turned up town(or survivor). I still like strife(previously haterade I think) on that account. He was on me and had been for a while with almost no reasoning.Fos: Cow.- scotmany12
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Thats not the only possibility you know. And you weren't assuming, you sounded sure. It seemed like you knew.hasdgfas wrote:
I don't think there are 4 with all 3 killing groups, and I don't think there are only 2 because there are 3 killing groups. I'm currently assuming 3 scum/SK/vig as our killing groups unless I see otherwise, because it makes the most sense.scotmany12 wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, you have just stated that there was a total of three scum, and you appear fairly confident in that. How do you know that there is only one scum left?hasdgfas wrote:Both of the dead scum went after fuzzy, and were on his wagon at the end of Day 1. I'd suspect the other scum would be out by himself trying not to look so suspicious if fuzzy turned up town(or survivor). I still like strife(previously haterade I think) on that account. He was on me and had been for a while with almost no reasoning.Fos: Cow.- scotmany12
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Um, no. I provided reasons for my vote on IH. I did not simply call IH scum and then vote for him. I gave reason for my vote. I elaborated on said reasons when you questioned my vote, and your whole reaction to that situation (refusing to explain vote, generally being unhelpful, not defending yourself) is scummy as hell. With that aside, this is horrible, horrible logic and in no ways justifying you refusing to explain your vote on sim.Lord Gurgi wrote:2. I refused to explain for Scot, because his vote against me was unexplained. As a result, he struggled to come up with something, that seems like a positive by your logic, at any rate.- scotmany12
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No you are not. No matter how many times you say it, I provided reasons for my vote, and I elaborated on it when questioned. I did not scrambling. Anyways, lets imagine that what you are saying is true and that I never gave reasons for my vote. How does that justify you doing the same thing? Once again, even if you were correct, i never once refused to explain my vote. You did. You made a scummy move.Lord Gurgi wrote:
I'm sorry Scot, but I'm explaining the truth, not what may or may not sound good to you. That's why I didn't explain to you. MadCrawdad seems to understand what I mean by you scrambling to make an argument.scotmany12 wrote:
Um, no. I provided reasons for my vote on IH. I did not simply call IH scum and then vote for him. I gave reason for my vote. I elaborated on said reasons when you questioned my vote, and your whole reaction to that situation (refusing to explain vote, generally being unhelpful, not defending yourself) is scummy as hell. With that aside, this is horrible, horrible logic and in no ways justifying you refusing to explain your vote on sim.Lord Gurgi wrote:2. I refused to explain for Scot, because his vote against me was unexplained. As a result, he struggled to come up with something, that seems like a positive by your logic, at any rate.- scotmany12
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I can't make you like my reasoning.scotmany12 wrote:
Way to not answer the one question I posed for you.Lord Gurgi wrote:
I'm sorry Scot, but I'm explaining the truth, not what may or may not sound good to you. That's why I didn't explain to you. MadCrawdad seems to understand what I mean by you scrambling to make an argument.scotmany12 wrote:
Um, no. I provided reasons for my vote on IH. I did not simply call IH scum and then vote for him. I gave reason for my vote. I elaborated on said reasons when you questioned my vote, and your whole reaction to that situation (refusing to explain vote, generally being unhelpful, not defending yourself) is scummy as hell. With that aside, this is horrible, horrible logic and in no ways justifying you refusing to explain your vote on sim.Lord Gurgi wrote:2. I refused to explain for Scot, because his vote against me was unexplained. As a result, he struggled to come up with something, that seems like a positive by your logic, at any rate.
No you are not. No matter how many times you say it, I provided reasons for my vote, and I elaborated on it when questioned. I did not scrambling. Anyways, lets imagine that what you are saying is true and that I never gave reasons for my vote. How does that justify you doing the same thing? Once again, even if you were correct, i never once refused to explain my vote. You did. You made a scummy move.- scotmany12
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What would you have me say? If I had something to comment on, I would comment on it. The thing between Gurgi and Crawdad was between them two, and frankly I found that argument irrelevant to the whole. Gurgi was also pretty much ignoring everything I said. I gave him a chance to respond to me, and not once did he answer any question I posed to him. So why waste my time when it was clear he wasn't going to comply?MadCrawdad wrote:@ scot
Scot, you were talking and going after Gurgi alot early in the day, but once things seemed to get rolling on him you kind of clammed up. Alot transpired between the time you stopped talking and Gurgi was lynched. Clearly you were watching (but not talking) as I remember you correcting a mod vote count later in the day. Why'd you get so quiet?- scotmany12
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Strife thinks that there is an sk and a vig, which is plausible. I don't know why he jumped to that conclusion, however. Strife, did you even consider the possibility of there being two scum groups, which one gone and the other with only one member remaining?hp [leaves] wrote:strife220 wrote:So with 3 mafia dead, we're presumably after a SK for the town win.
Contradiction much? Saying we must find the SK, then converting it to a vig.strife220 wrote:Why would we mass-claim when we clearly have a vig alive
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He is actually at lynch -2. And yes, I am. I was busy finishing up a paper yesterday, and I thought the deadline was monday for some reason. It simply means I have to post something today instead.MadCrawdad wrote:So you're willing to put someone at -1 and not give a reason? Right. You don't have a couple of spare minutes to even just give a hint? Right.
I believe that deadline is tomorrow, and you're not sure when when you'll actually be able to give a reason. Okay then...- scotmany12
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I see no reason why anyone who is town would oppose a massclaim today. If we have a vig, then it gives the vigs options. You stated that you gave a good reason against massclaim which you never did. I also find you the most likeliest candidate to be a sk as you jump to the conclusion that we have a sk. While it is possible, it is not the only possibility.strife220 wrote:
Not a particularly fair vote right before deadline...scotmany12 wrote:Vote: strife220
This is a good vote; reasoning coming when I have more time on my hands, most likely sometime over the weekend.
I also disliked your interaction with cow when you started talking about statistics. It was unnecessary and unhelpful. And then you voted for stark at the end of deadline. Taking away that you had a reason that was inaccurate, your reason for voting stark was that he was proud that he was right about fuzzy, which means nothing, and that he was not voting, of which darox was also guilty of. It looked like you were just trying to put your vote anywhere but gurgi, as if you were afraid he was truly the doc and didn't want to be caught on his wagon. Then there is also my gut, and it is telling me that you are scum.- scotmany12
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Vote: strife
I highly, highly, highly doubt that strife is telling the truth. If he is, then town could have potentially lost the game on the very start of day 2. If we ended up lynching a town member on day 1, then the scum kill a town member, and both town members can potentially kill two other town members. If strife is telling the truth, then there would have to be another mafia member, making the total of four (prospect of sk is ridiculous in this scenario). So they would have four members of the mafia, to four members of the town. I highly doubt that the mod would allow this to happen. There is also the fact that strife rejected a massclaim yesterday, when a vig would want a massclaim, and I have never seen two vigs in a mini normal.- scotmany12
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No, you will give a full disclosure now. HP-leaves doesn't even understand what is going on with this game. There is really no point to a no lynch, and I don't trust you right now. You don't go from being ready to explain to withholding information. That does not help your case.strife220 wrote:
Because HP-Leaves clicked in to what I'm getting at. No-lynch benefits everyone but the SK here. If I'm alive tomorrow, I can be lynched.Darox wrote:Why should we follow along with this little game of yours?
Vote: No lynch
Deadline is in 4 days. Today will be a no lynch whether people want to vote with me now or wait until deadline. I'll give full disclosure tomorrow if I'm still alive, or in post-game if I die.- scotmany12
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That's all you can think of? You consider me scum for a null-tell? Let's look past that my activity has been down as of late in both of my games, you think I'm scum because of activity? Come on, start playing the game. If you think I am scum, actually make a case. While you are at it, mind explaining why you seem to be so buddy-buddy with strife?hp [leaves] wrote:Scotmany's activity level makes me think he's scum.
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Despite the fact that you have accused all three of us as scum, you are also pushing for a no lynch. Why might I ask that? If you understand what is going on then tell me why we should no lynch?hp [leaves] wrote:
I understand what's going on ._.scotmany12 wrote:No, you will give a full disclosure now. HP-leaves doesn't even understand what is going on with this game. There is really no point to a no lynch, and I don't trust you right now. You don't go from being ready to explain to withholding information. That does not help your case.- scotmany12
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It's a fairly normal role. It is perfectly acceptable for it to be in a mini normal. I probably shouldn't even be answering your questions, as you refuse to say anything. The minute I unvote you so that you can say what you have to say, you suddenly no longer have anything to say? Bullshit. Start talking strife, now. I also love how you are thinking there is still a sk, when that would never happen with 2 vigs. That would result in there possibly being 4 kills a night, which is insane in a mini normal. As a vig you would have realized this.- scotmany12
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Are you kidding me Strife? Lets say you are telling the truth (hah) and you are a vig. The only person you should be targeting tonight is me, not who you think is the sk. You clearly aren't thinking like a vig, do not have the town's best interest in mind. Yeah, there is no need for this to go into night.Vote: Strife- scotmany12
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If strife is not the last remaining scum, then there is absolutely no chance the remaining scum will kill strife. Liike, zero chance, mostly due to how you have constantly been saying that if he is alive tomorrow then we will lynch him tomorrow. There is no way strife is a vig. He is not thinking like a vig, and does not have the towns best interest in hand as he has shown when he said he would kill tonight (he has also shown his failure in simple math as well). Seriously, there is no need to drag this on anymore. Hammer strife already.hp [leaves] wrote:The real SK might not be him and accidentally kill him in the night.- scotmany12
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There is actually no chance at that. It is simply a numbers game. It is absurd to think that there could be 4 killings groups in this game.strife220 wrote:Targetting Scotmany tonight. There's a reasonable chance he's a non-NK immune SK that claimed NK immunity to avoid getting picked off tonight.
/waits - scotmany12
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