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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:34 am

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if ari wagon becomes viable I'm there. that's where my heart is.
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:41 am

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In post 1717, Isis wrote:
Votecount 2.7
  • Sirius9121 (He/Him)
    (1) - Aristophanes
  • Augustus
    Caesar (He/Him)
    (0)
  • Aristophanes (He/Him)
    (2) xRECKONERx, The Bulge
  • Datisi (He/Him)
    (0)
  • Ydrasse
    (She/Her)
    (1) xofelf,
  • Creature (He/Him)
    (0)
  • xofelf (They/Them)
    (1) Ydrasse
  • DeasVail (He/Him)
    (0)
  • The
    Bulge (Any/Any)
    (5) Augustus Caesar, Datisi, Creature, DeasVail, Adorable

  • Adorable (She/Her)
    (0)
  • xRECKONERx (He/Him)
    (0)
Not Voting (1): Sirius9121,
Deadline: (expired on 2021-02-14 04:00:00)




A three prize level, but it's hard so it just breaks even.
In post 1740, Datisi wrote:UNVOTE:
In post 1743, Augustus Caesar wrote:
In post 1738, The Bulge wrote:
hop
the fuck off of this trash push
Hopkirk is very offended by this hate speech

UNVOTE: The Bulge

hop also wants to clarify he hasn't read up and intends to this weekend
In post 1767, Adorable wrote:
In post 1744, The Bulge wrote:
In post 10, petapan wrote:Image

VOTE: sirius
I thought peta faked a crumb here because of the scum informed goon. I have a theory this may have factored into why he was killed first, if scum thought this was the psych/doc crumb
I see. So that's why you voted petapan on day 1 since you must have thought petapan was an informed scum who knew there was a psychologist when they posted get psyched.

UNVOTE:
In post 1768, Datisi wrote:ok one day 8 hours left. time to get moving.

VOTE: ari
In post 1769, Augustus Caesar wrote:VOTE: Ari L-2

grumble grumble

Would appreciate if people actually came on and answered questions
In post 1788, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: aristophanes

e-1

p-edit: what does impression of fairness mean???
In post 1799, Augustus Caesar wrote:UNVOTE: Ari

honestly, I believe you

it's what I've seen as well comparing any of your scumgames to this game. Your solving is out of its range


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
In post 1803, Datisi wrote:VOTE: deas
In post 1827, DeasVail wrote:UNVOTE: The Bulge

Will be here properly within a few hours.
In post 1828, DeasVail wrote:VOTE: Datisi

I know this is probably unpopular but it’s where my head is at. I would want either Ydrasse or Datisi elim’d today.

I will make a comprehensive post explaining my thoughts soon.
In post 1873, Datisi wrote:VOTE: sirius

@town
vote deas to have a chance of hitting scum
vote sirius to start cleaning up useless slots that shouldn't get anywhere close to lylo
i'm good with either
In post 1881, Augustus Caesar wrote:VOTE: Deas
In post 1883, Datisi wrote:VOTE: deas
In post 1895, The Bulge wrote:tbh

VOTE: deas

for now. let's make sure the game doesnt take its usual evening nosedive in activity and stall to a nolim.
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:42 am

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it's about momentum
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:42 am

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DeasVail - Augustus, Datisi, Bulge
Aristophanes - Reck, Ydrasse
Not voting any of the above - Creature, Sirius, Adorable, xofelf, Aristophanes, DeasVail
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:43 am

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Grrr

DeasVail's wagon is definitely way townier than Aristophanes'
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:44 am

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In post 1904, Creature wrote:Grrr

DeasVail's wagon is definitely way townier than Aristophanes'
except it's composed of two players who've been jumping wagons all game and clearly have no idea what they're doing and Bulge.
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:44 am

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didn't you want me to be the hammer anyway? what gives
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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:47 am

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In post 1906, The Bulge wrote:didn't you want me to be the hammer anyway? what gives
Thought you preferred Ari over DeasVail which makes DeasVail wagon pretty much only Hectic and Datisi.
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:50 am

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Quick check at Ari's scumgames, these indicate fairly strongly that Ari is town here.
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:51 am

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Ugh, I don’t know where the vote count is at but I’m town and this has actually been one of the most enjoyable games for me where I’ve felt more engaged than I have been in a game for quite a while so as much as it’s an AtE-like thing to say I would be disappointed if I were eliminated here!

I also think the thoughts on my approach to the RCE-slot don’t make much sense because why would I push him so hard as soon as he replaced in and then unvote after a silly claim? (Maybe so that I could say that, whatever)

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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:51 am

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VOTE: DeasVail

L-2

That or we do a risky flashwagon
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:51 am

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Bad thing about VC being 8 pages away is that I can't even tell if this is actually L-2
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:52 am

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In post 1908, Creature wrote:Quick check at Ari's scumgames, these indicate fairly strongly that Ari is town here.
I agree with you!

VOTE: Ydrasse
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:52 am

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Hail mary

VOTE: Ydrasse
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:56 pm

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In post 1909, DeasVail wrote:Ugh, I don’t know where the vote count is at but I’m town and this has actually been one of the most enjoyable games for me where I’ve felt more engaged than I have been in a game for quite a while so as much as it’s an AtE-like thing to say I would be disappointed if I were eliminated here!

I also think the thoughts on my approach to the RCE-slot don’t make much sense because why would I push him so hard as soon as he replaced in and then unvote after a silly claim? (Maybe so that I could say that, whatever)

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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:58 pm

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Ydrasse is still very, very town

Ftr I have a 100% record on reading her in mafia games. Launched her when she was scum in Launch Mafia and Forest Fire, and correctly townread her in all of her towngames. I've been wrong on her exactly ONCE, and that was a marathon game so doesn't count. You should sheep me in my read of her
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:59 pm

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In post 1892, The Bulge wrote:
In post 1837, Augustus Caesar wrote:eh, sorry

aware the push wasn't strong but there was literally nowhere else I could find to go and don't want to just launch someone random
literally nowhere else? what happened to your creature vote in the first place? when did you flip on deas?
Creature I can't read
Deas was scumreading, but then his responses were alright + his pressure on RCE I saw unlikely coming from a partner
you pointed out how it's not unlikely and I agree
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:00 pm

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In post 1908, Creature wrote:Quick check at Ari's scumgames, these indicate fairly strongly that Ari is town here.
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 1913, Creature wrote:Hail mary

VOTE: Ydrasse
Creature, remember when you were a mason in PookyVFlavor? Remember how you were scumreading both Ydrasse and I? Remember how we were both town correctly townreading each other?

This is that. Trust my read here.
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:05 pm

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In post 1675, Augustus Caesar wrote:
In post 1669, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 1665, Datisi wrote:WHY is it tanking??? WHY does it feel like every single game relevant thought you put into this thread was pulled out of your ass 3 seconds earlier without any cohesion whatsoever????
because this is the second vote you’ve made on me now and the first one fucking sucked and here you are again back on board datisi that’s why

i’m literally playing on my fucking 15 min break and don’t exactly have time to go back and hard reread and i’ve been trying my best to get back into a game to be helpful
This post is incredibly towny. Reason being is that the anger behind this post is solely due to Datisi incorrectly scumreading Ydrasse. Ydrasse does not get mad about this if Datisi simply has a correct scumread. She
does
get mad about this if she's frustrated at Datisi continuing to incorrectly read her (or be scum pushing her).

Scum can be frustrated if they think the push is unfair or based on bad reasons. but Ydrasse isn't even talking about any reasons, she's just frustrated about the push itself because she knows it's wrong

Basically, the self-righteousness is really towny

and I don't think Ydrasse has ever faked this kind of thing as scum
In post 1680, Augustus Caesar wrote:It's a pretty common tell. Scum don't feel genuine rage when being pushed, and usually have to fake it, while town do all the time. It's the feeling of being "right" and knowing the accuser is wrong

Ydrasse hasn't faked it in any of her scumgames previously
In post 1692, Augustus Caesar wrote:I think the context is different to day 1 where her anger was a result of her being the counterwagon to an essentially doomed scumslot with a scummy claim. Whereas here, it's just a reaction to being pushed.

This is how she reacted to being pushed for weeks in her last scumgame:
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You can just read almost any post on page 3 of 4 of her ISO

this is a SUSTAINED push and there is no rage in there, only some sad AtE

I know it's hard to townread her for her solving, but I've found a really good reason to actually think she's town, so that shouldn't be ignored because of trying to view her as a "whole"
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:08 pm

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Hectic I know I’m town and there are really limited options for scum imo.

I don’t think Ari is scum.

Datisi and Ydrasse are honestly the least obvtown slots left in the game.
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:11 pm

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I really, really believe in my reasoning, enough to make Ydrasse probably my number 1 or 2 townread at this point. I would rather go 9 other players than her
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:12 pm

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I think 7 in actuality, but you get the point
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 1918, Augustus Caesar wrote:
In post 1913, Creature wrote:Hail mary

VOTE: Ydrasse
Creature, remember when you were a mason in PookyVFlavor? Remember how you were scumreading both Ydrasse and I? Remember how we were both town correctly townreading each other?

This is that. Trust my read here.
Ok, I'm listening.

If not Ari, if not Deas, if not Ydra, then who?
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:18 pm

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I think we're doing fine rn, but time is tight and the consensus options so far all look bad.
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