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[Pine]

Oh

Hmm

BBMolla's flip

I had straight-up forgotten that.

No. 2 Doc, 2 Commute doesn't change things. Commute is not a true protective, it only isolates the self. It does not justify the strongman.

[Mistyx]

we have two claimed doc/commuters

if FL's claim is true that on its own justifies the strongman on its own, right?

We have 1-shot doc and 1-shot self-commute. That's not even in the same league as what last year's game have.

Further, Jailkeeper is also negative utility, in that I also roleblock the people I protect.

This is

exactly

how you balance that.

if you're saying it's just the 1, do you not believe FL's claim?

I don't know where you get that from?!

FL's claim is solid.

FL has claimed the role molla flipped as

If you think that FL's claim is true, that's 2 1-shot docs and 2 1-shot commuters

[Flavor Leaf]

this is a Thrill On A No Kill esque setup. I wouldn't be surprised if Penguin actively decided to play with the idea of making it seem similar as a red herring to last year's game

[Flavor Leaf]

Like why do i claim Molla's role as scum. Why don't I just claim JOAT with different actions

[Mistyx]

Like why do i claim Molla's role as scum. Why don't I just claim JOAT with different actions

eh?

i don't think that's particularly ai

[Pine]

okay here let's take it from the top down

akarin is essentially mech clear

i think nancy is obvtown, by tone, by meta, by approach, etc etc

i think norwee is towny from tone/approach stuff, and there's been a couple posts i've seen from him that are just "yes this person is just town"

i think TSQ had a really good d1 but has dropped off since then

i don't think ram was towny at any point really and titus wants me to push him though im not sure why on the latter

i think FL has been very FL this game and like, i kind of want to take what he said about being scum with DEB at face value, plus i think DEB would be more motivated to play scum with him

pine is a contentious slot that i do not have a strong read on but i think his approach to today has been kind of pockety to FL specifically which is like

??? why fl only, is it to try to draw associations after flip?

WHAT has Norwegian done that is tonally Towny? Was it when he stoked arguments? Strawmanned people? Maybe when it was when he used AtE to avoid suspicion?

I picked up on a Flavor Leaf Towntell on DAY ONE. I've been extremely solid on that read virtually the whole game. In what universe do two scum players with reputations like ours draw associatives that are that reinforced?

[Akarin]

Like why do i claim Molla's role as scum. Why don't I just claim JOAT with different actions

Because you've repeatedly been done with this game emotionally and you'd think it was hilarious if you got away with it?

[Akarin]

tbf it would be

[Mistyx]

I think FL/Pine has 1 scum, leaning towards Pine

I think Norwee/TSQ/Ram has the other, Ram > TSQ > Norwee being my order from least to most towny

[Mistyx]

WHAT has Norwegian done that is tonally Towny? Was it when he stoked arguments? Strawmanned people? Maybe when it was when he used AtE to avoid suspicion?

approximately half this game has done this sort of stuff

so.

[Pine]

I think FL/Pine has 1 scum, leaning towards Pine

I think Norwee/TSQ/Ram has the other, Ram > TSQ > Norwee being my order from least to most towny

Citation needed on Norwegian!Town

[Pine]

WHAT has Norwegian done that is tonally Towny? Was it when he stoked arguments? Strawmanned people? Maybe when it was when he used AtE to avoid suspicion?

approximately half this game has done this sort of stuff

so.

Even if true (it is not) you're just dismissing scummy behavior, not providing Towny behavior.

[Mistyx]

now im expecting the question, "mist, are you even playing the same game as us"

the answer is probably not! i have ignored all the things that i do not want to see which is like 60% of this game

it is not productive to solving but this game has been very heated and i do not read through that well

[Pine]

Sigh

Dannflor thinks I'm about to die and is insistent that I put out there a theory he and Jingle have been kicking around that it's Shea/Ramcius.

They're wrong.

[Pine]

now im expecting the question, "mist, are you even playing the same game as us"

the answer is probably not! i have ignored all the things that i do not want to see which is like 60% of this game

it is not productive to solving but this game has been very heated and i do not read through that well

Then I'm afraid you need to grow up as well. Ignoring 60% of the game and basing your reads on the polite parts is a great way to get biased and incomplete reads.

[Mistyx]

UNVOTE:

realistically i think we can probably just kill pine/DEB/Akarin all in a row if they dont improve or get replaced and be ~fine

Realistically we can have a decent flip and get ton of associations, decent wagon to analyse and not be in square one on D3, but sure, let's flip another lurker and hope for the best, because that always works

i found this

[Mistyx]

now im expecting the question, "mist, are you even playing the same game as us"

the answer is probably not! i have ignored all the things that i do not want to see which is like 60% of this game

it is not productive to solving but this game has been very heated and i do not read through that well

Then I'm afraid you need to grow up as well. Ignoring 60% of the game and basing your reads on the polite parts is a great way to get biased and incomplete reads.

to be fair i am not actually an adult

so i'm working on the growing up part

[Mistyx]

worth noting that ico had norwee and TSQ as hard town

so that's probably not the team because they kill like, nancy over ico

[Pine]

That’s...no. Hmmm. That’s a good point. I’m not sure you’re right but you’re not wrong.

[Flavor Leaf]

you guys are just wrong, like Norwegian is scum.

Honestly, i dont even care about winning at this point, Im ready for the game to end so all you know that i was right from the beginning

[Flavor Leaf]

worth noting that ico had norwee

this is not true.

it was at one point, but Ico specifically stated if TGP were to flip town, it would change their read on them, and ill find it in a sec.

Ico also specifically stated they thught I was most likely town

[Flavor Leaf]

Votecount 1.10

zoraster(4)

~ NorwegianboyEE(80), Nancy Drew 39(110), TheGoldenParadox(29), thestatusquo(96)

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@Nancy scum is 100% in this

[Pine]

worth noting that ico had norwee and TSQ as hard town

so that's probably not the team because they kill like, nancy over ico

You're going to need to cite this, because that is not what I'm getting from his D2 ISO

[Flavor Leaf]

there's a potential world where scum!norwee has me pocketed, and scum!TGP hooded me and are using me to kill off FL

but then I would expect scum!TGP to be more active towards that in the hood, which isn't the case

[Pine]

^Incidentally, this is the kind of doubt and investigation we have never seen out of Norwee this game.