TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[DeasVail]

I am hesitating here because I did have some adorable paranoia but I did strongly townread her so I want to see what she says here

[Sirius9121]

creature/hectic/me/xof/reck willing to hammer/we need one more

deas????

I can hammer if no one hammers before 5pm GMT+8

[Adorable]

Hectic, Datisi, Reckoner, Ydrasse, DV, Ari, Creature

These were the players I was town reading after the scum flip and these were the players I was scum reading underneath

xofelf, Sirius

Bulge was on my null and that was why I voted them since I wasn't town reading them. I'm starting to worry I might have been town reading scum if I am wrong on my scum reads. Now that Bulge made a claim that looked believable I have them as town. I also reevaluated my read on Creature when I saw your response about Creature and I will write down the stuff Akarin said.

[Ydrasse]

ill be around for a bit as need be to vote or w/e, irl happening so energy/attention reserves low, sorry

[Datisi]

i am gonna try to sleep a bit, see y'all in 3 hours, if we're still in day 2

(let's try not to still be in day 2)

[Adorable]

Just to let you guys know it will take me somewhere around an hour for me to paraphrase everything since it's long.

[Augustus Caesar]

oh no

[Creature]

Aw man I need to go sleep

[Creature]

We might have to lynch a towny player anyway as we waited until there was only six hours left to settle on someone.

[Augustus Caesar]

lol maybe I should set an alarm for 3 hours from now like Datisi

maybe this game is worth it... I am enjoying it more now

UNVOTE: Adorable

sure, let's do that. I'll be back later

[Augustus Caesar]

VOTE: Adorable in case I sleep through my alarm

[Augustus Caesar]

you know what

YOU KNOW WHAT

VOTE: Sirius

the meta that points to him being town is from too long ago to put massive stock into, and he's never gonna make any content to reasonably convince anyone he's town. him having fun is the only reason to townread him, and that read will basically never change because he provides close to no content. ergo, he shouldn't be allowed near lylo because we'll have far more tangible reasons to townread others, while we'll always be kinda unsure about him

also, I wanted to hold off on saying this but in case I don't come back: Akarin giving Puff a whole spiel of thoughts because Puff struggling but Puff not sharing that is really towny. if Puff can post this and it's relatively long and not in toooo long from now, it proves Akarin was actually helping Puff with the game in chat, and Puff wasn't using that as team reads to provide to the thread, meaning they existed beforehand and Puff only thought to show them because she wants her teammate's reads to be valued before she gets mislaunched. unless they've been planning this as a SECRET WEAPON in the event Puff is on the ropes, but that's kinda big brain if it's the case. does this make sense? i'm in a very tired state.

so Puff, the sooner you can post these, the better it looks for you, since it proves you and Akarin aren't just making them up now on the spot, but that they existed beforehand

also I read back on earlier reasons I had to townread Puff and I realised I should stop being so impulsive and actually remember the reasons I had to strongly townread players I wa sstrongly townreading

[Adorable]

These are the list of players she town read which are Bulge, Hectic, Ydrasse, Datisi and prob Reck. With those players on town read she said the players in the pool would be Sirius, Ari, Creature, xofelf, DV.

This is what Akarin said about Creature. She said there were alot of weird interactions around beeboy, and she said it looked like the scumteam knew he was going down and then she started to wonder how much did they try to save him, if at all and then she thinks one might have bussed. Akarin said Creatures off-and on approach feels like he might be the scum that tries to save beeboy but then Creature pushes RCE after his claim while others are counterwagoning Ydrasse. I asked yesterday if scum does a move like that and this was when Akarin was not caught up at the time.

People I don't want to elim today:

Sirius, Aristophanes, Creature, xofelf, Adorable, xRECKONERx, RCEnigma (there's no real point in an elimination here right now to be honest, regardless of read on the slot)

The rest are potential options in my mind.

Summer Nights is the slot that I feel most indifferent about right now. Pushing there is kind of low value because she's not even really here, but it also feels like the most comfortable place for a vote. And peta voting there is eerie because it was the first thought in my mind when I unvoted as well and a lot of the reasons he has put forward are similar to what I have been thinking.

VOTE: Summer Nights

She said if Bulge claim is true, then the only players DV was willing eliminate on this list were petapan, Hectic, Ydrasse, Bulge, and Datisi, and with her reads, the night 1 flip and the claim, DV was unwilling to vote the entire scumteam and she thinks scum tend to be inclined to put at least 1 of their buddies in their pool, even if they don't vote for them and she guess she'd be less inclined to vote DV.

I said earlier in the game I was leaning town on Ari and Akarin is not and she said if Ari elimination isn't going to go through due to meta + Hectic (which was her take on it) then she says I should vote in Creature, Sirius, xofelf. She also said the argument on Creature being town doesn't make sense from DV and it felt like to her DV is town who sticks their neck out and townblocks the entire scumteam rather than being scum???

[Adorable]

She wrote other stuff and the stuff I paraphrased were more important. I'll finish writing what else she said.

[Ydrasse]

im not voting adorable today

VOTE: sirius

[DeasVail]

VOTE: Sirius

[DeasVail]

I am actually very okay with this

[Adorable]

From earlier she said she was locked into Hectic town and Ydrasse is also pretty town to her. She said with Bulge saying Datisi is town from his claim I don't need to worry about them being scum and if they are alive for a long time then I should start to worry. She also said sheeping Hectic isn't a bad strategy.

This was her guess of a scum team Ari + Creature and she said Sirius is a perfectly fine elim. I was leaning town on Ari and I still wasn't convinced on scum Ari.

[The Bulge]

Okay I know that eliminating me at this point seems like a foregone conclusion for some but I will prove myself as town somehow in the coming days. I don’t know how that’ll be but I want to be a slot that is widely townread and an easy exclusion from poe. Not whatever this is.

Hectic I think the main difference between my scum and towngames is that scum is more of a PERFORMANCE for me. Some scum games I don’t have much motivation and struggle with activity (which I also do as town sometimes) but in a game like this I would be trying to BLEED TOWN in every post I make.

I don’t know if I have a scumrange really because my town game is generally more understated and I can come up with content pretty easily as scum imo

(I think from an outside perspective someone might have an idea of my scumrange but it’s honestly been so long since I’ve played a proper game as scum)

what about bussing rce? can you talk about where that fits into your scumrange

[The Bulge]

sirius is fine but I want to go out elimming scum

[The Bulge]

ftr I do think it's notable that you didn't jump to that example right away when hectic asked

[The Bulge]

above is @dv relating to 2043

[The Bulge]

if the game comes down to digging up deepwolves, look at hectic. if I had more motivation to put in work and less premonition of my imminent death, I'd be looking into a hectic/creature back pocket apocalypse solve.

[The Bulge]

I'll support ari/deas/creature/ydrasse///sirius with my vote at this point, in that order of preference.

[DeasVail]

I think as scum I decide to get onto the beeboy wagon before replace-in because I would predict that people would wait for a replacement and so why not get free townpoints?
After replace in I think I could hard-bus RCE if I was feeling hardcore but honestly I’d probably feel bad about giving RCE-buddy no chance upon replacing in so I’d probably be more likely to just find a reason to hard townread and go all in on that? I probably either hard bus or hard tr because I’d figure that a wishy-washy approach to the slot would look bad for me and so I would avoid that.
Obviously a lot of this is speculation but I’m trying to channel what I’d do as scum.

The concept of a scumrange is odd to me because there are things that would be MORE about me as scum and other things that would be less. It’s more of a “I’m different as scum” thing rather than less of anything.

For example,

Me-scum under pressure: “must survive survive survive no matter what the cost I’ll do ANYTHING”

Me-town under pressure: “eh it’s town’s fault for misreading me ultimately”

Obviously hyperbole but you get the idea