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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:53 am

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In post 4173, Ramcius wrote:Norwee, simple question - why scum have 1-shot strongman, if town has only 1 JOAT with doc and commute?
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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:55 am

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ye

the solve is never FL/Pine
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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:55 am

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And it never being FL/Pine blows a lot of attendant bullshit out of the water
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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:56 am

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@Mistyx Ramcius is Town

His actions in the last 24 hours or so scream it
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:57 am

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In post 4178, Pine wrote:@Mistyx Ramcius is Town

His actions in the last 24 hours or so scream it
expand please

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your take on ramicus would also be appreciated
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:58 am

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In post 4171, Mistyx wrote:
In post 4168, Ramcius wrote:
In post 4166, Mistyx wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 2748, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 2.13

Akarin(4)
~ (73), (65), (197), (186)

NorwegianboyEE(3)
~ (325), (58), (52)
Flavor Leaf(1)
~ (217)


Not Voting (3): (13), Dr Easy Bake(10), Akarin(12)


Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-12 12:40:00)


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In post 3013, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 2.14

TheGoldenParadox(3)
~ (257), (49), (63)

Akarin(3)
~ (88), (68), (186)
NorwegianboyEE(2)
~ (407), (52)
Pine(1)
~ (277)


Not Voting (2): (13), Dr Easy Bake(12)


Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-12 12:40:00)


Mod Notes
  • Iconeum on weekend v/la
  • Prodding TheGoldenParadox
In post 3157, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 2.17 - Final

TheGoldenParadox(6)
~ (286), (49), (70), (223), (71), (318)
-- HAMMER
NorwegianboyEE(2)
~ (420), (56)
Flavor Leaf(1)
~ (17)
Akarin(1)
~ (90)


Not Voting (1): Dr Easy Bake(12)


Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-12 12:40:00)


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  • That's it for Day 2!


okay i got some from titus about yesterday's VCA

she thinks DEB not voting is indicative of the wagons being TvT, and thinks scum are probably sheeping there

and thinks that Ram following nancy fills that idea
Tell her to actually read the game before coming with ridiculous VCA theories, me sheeping Nancy on TGP make me laugh really hard
you jumped on the wagon to

prove that norwee was scum if TGP flipped red?

that seems like scummy following to me tbh
Norwee is a proxy for jjh to tell TGP is town, fails to provide any real argument as to why it's so and we have Ico's suspicion due to hood, Akarin and Nancy votes TGP, after some discussion with Norwee and game stalling I trry toi pursue idea of scum Norwee defending scum TGP and vote there. Now I might see you as susp too, but your slot is sortable at any time, so it can be skipped. Norwee hammers after some posturing, but this doesn't rouse any suspicion? He was against TGP flip, but then he changes his mind without much convincing
Tact is for liars and politicians.
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:59 am

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In post 4180, Ramcius wrote:
In post 4171, Mistyx wrote:
In post 4168, Ramcius wrote:
In post 4166, Mistyx wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 2748, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 2.13

Akarin(4)
~ (73), (65), (197), (186)

NorwegianboyEE(3)
~ (325), (58), (52)
Flavor Leaf(1)
~ (217)


Not Voting (3): (13), Dr Easy Bake(10), Akarin(12)


Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-12 12:40:00)


Mod Notes
  • Iconeum on weekend v/la
In post 3013, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 2.14

TheGoldenParadox(3)
~ (257), (49), (63)

Akarin(3)
~ (88), (68), (186)
NorwegianboyEE(2)
~ (407), (52)
Pine(1)
~ (277)


Not Voting (2): (13), Dr Easy Bake(12)


Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-12 12:40:00)


Mod Notes
  • Iconeum on weekend v/la
  • Prodding TheGoldenParadox
In post 3157, PenguinPower wrote:
Votecount 2.17 - Final

TheGoldenParadox(6)
~ (286), (49), (70), (223), (71), (318)
-- HAMMER
NorwegianboyEE(2)
~ (420), (56)
Flavor Leaf(1)
~ (17)
Akarin(1)
~ (90)


Not Voting (1): Dr Easy Bake(12)


Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-12 12:40:00)


Mod Notes
  • That's it for Day 2!


okay i got some from titus about yesterday's VCA

she thinks DEB not voting is indicative of the wagons being TvT, and thinks scum are probably sheeping there

and thinks that Ram following nancy fills that idea
Tell her to actually read the game before coming with ridiculous VCA theories, me sheeping Nancy on TGP make me laugh really hard
you jumped on the wagon to

prove that norwee was scum if TGP flipped red?

that seems like scummy following to me tbh
Norwee is a proxy for jjh to tell TGP is town, fails to provide any real argument as to why it's so and we have Ico's suspicion due to hood, Akarin and Nancy votes TGP, after some discussion with Norwee and game stalling I trry toi pursue idea of scum Norwee defending scum TGP and vote there. Now I might see you as susp too, but your slot is sortable at any time, so it can be skipped. Norwee hammers after some posturing, but this doesn't rouse any suspicion? He was against TGP flip, but then he changes his mind without much convincing
Well, Mistyx, for starters this. Ramcius is actively using logic to parse and solve. I'll find some more quotes that don't come from scum!Ram
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:01 am

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In post 4140, Ramcius wrote:I have a question, do strongman go through commute?
In post 4173, Ramcius wrote:Norwee, simple question - why scum have 1-shot strongman, if town has only 1 JOAT with doc and commute?
These were the ones which made Jingle yell at me in all-caps that he was Town.

There's no scum upside to exploring this issue. He's solving the game through the setup. Scum either sticks their fingers in their ears and goes LALALALA KILL THE STRONG PR (like Norwee) or ignores the topic and tries to get the kill without engaging it (like Shea)

Scum does not poke holes in the setup argument against me
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:03 am

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Pine you realize those points don’t work for me because I’m not convinced you’re town correct
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:04 am

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You realize I don't care whether you believe what's pretty obvious, I care about prosecuting my solve

I'm personally expendable. You being in the pocket of scum isn't.
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:05 am

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We can afford one (1) mis-elim right now, unless FL or I get a save. We can't afford to dick around pursuing people like Ramcius and Flavor Leaf. We need to flip scum.

You don't want to flip Norwee right now?

Fine.

I don't want to flip Ramcius.

I will compromise on Shea.

VOTE: thestatusquo
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:06 am

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Tangential note

If we hit scum between Norwee/Ram today Pine ALWAYS jailkeeps FL

The mechanical implications of this should be obvious
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:07 am

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Uh, no.

That would roleblock a Doc shot.

My jail is best used offensively, to roleblock a suspect.
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:08 am

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In post 4186, Mistyx wrote:Tangential note

If we hit scum between Norwee/Ram today Pine ALWAYS jailkeeps FL

The mechanical implications of this should be obvious
Norwee/Ram/Shea that is
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:08 am

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In post 4187, Pine wrote:Uh, no.

That would roleblock a Doc shot.

My jail is best used offensively, to roleblock a suspect.
FL is my lead suspect in those worlds (well I guess not scum norwee but the others)
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:09 am

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In post 4173, Ramcius wrote:Norwee, simple question - why scum have 1-shot strongman, if town has only 1 JOAT with doc and commute?
It doesn’t matter if scum has 1-shot strongman. I care about how the setup only includes roles that are gated by number of shots.
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:10 am

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In post 4189, Mistyx wrote:
In post 4187, Pine wrote:Uh, no.

That would roleblock a Doc shot.

My jail is best used offensively, to roleblock a suspect.
FL is my lead suspect in those worlds (well I guess not scum norwee but the others)
He isn't mine, and you don't get to dictate my role usage.

Further, jailing someone and having a kill still go through provides a mechanical clear on that person.

I will not be jailing FL. I haven't decided who I will be, but he's the only one I'm definitely not going to jail.
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:10 am

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In post 4190, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4173, Ramcius wrote:Norwee, simple question - why scum have 1-shot strongman, if town has only 1 JOAT with doc and commute?
It doesn’t matter if scum has 1-shot strongman. I care about how the setup only includes roles that are gated by number of shots.
Translation: I am not thinking critically about the setup, because I don't have to. I am the informed minority AKA scum.
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:13 am

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In post 4191, Pine wrote:
In post 4189, Mistyx wrote:
In post 4187, Pine wrote:Uh, no.

That would roleblock a Doc shot.

My jail is best used offensively, to roleblock a suspect.
FL is my lead suspect in those worlds (well I guess not scum norwee but the others)
He isn't mine, and you don't get to dictate my role usage.

Further, jailing someone and having a kill still go through provides a mechanical clear on that person.

I will not be jailing FL. I haven't decided who I will be, but he's the only one I'm definitely not going to jail.
Okay

Then establish who you are going to jail before day ends so we get the clear if you die
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:14 am

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Norwee I still want your take on Ram
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:20 am

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In post 4190, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4173, Ramcius wrote:Norwee, simple question - why scum have 1-shot strongman, if town has only 1 JOAT with doc and commute?
It doesn’t matter if scum has 1-shot strongman. I care about how the setup only includes roles that are gated by number of shots.
Why this isn't dead yet?
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:22 am

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In post 4190, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4173, Ramcius wrote:Norwee, simple question - why scum have 1-shot strongman, if town has only 1 JOAT with doc and commute?
It doesn’t matter if scum has 1-shot strongman. I care about how the setup only includes roles that are gated by number of shots.
why give scum a role with such low utility then
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:24 am

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By the way

If Pine is town, scum are not bussing here

Which I think rules out Norwee/Ram and Norwee/FL
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:26 am

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Norwee/Pine
Norwee/TSQ
Pine/TSQ
Pine/Ram
TSQ/FL
FL/Ram

I have it narrowed down to these

I’m thinking of cutting out Norwee/Pine here

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Can I get your takes on this when you can
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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:40 am

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If I can comfortable rule out Norwee/Pine I am willing to compromise on Shea

Provided that if I die, norwee is treated as an innocent child and Ram is treated as mafia

I don't want to have to hard decide that right now so I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me why my worldbuilding is wrong if it is
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