TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[Disney Princesses]

Hi everyone

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Wasn't it beautiful

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

You tell 'em Cephy

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

You're a scum claim

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Congratulations is in order to the following players:

Raya, Cook, unwnd, Korina, and Angry Birds!

The last player is special because of penguin_alien and her much anticipated return! You group of five are my group of FAST FRIENDS - while I will skim most posts in this game, your posts I will hang on every word and assume every argument you make is in good faith and support you where appropriate! All except for Angry Birds were selected randomly, and your special status will only last for one game Day. This status only extends to the Nacho hydra head (the one posting now) - Spiffeh is a loose cannon that I cannot control.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

VOTE: Disney Princess

spiffeh rolled scum again hahahahahahaha

You're just jealous you weren't invited to the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Nacho this is gonna be really confusing for everyone look Pooky already accidentally scum claimed because of your trickery

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

dayvig: jake

uhh

is this real

I don't think so, Cook.

It came shortly after the "I am not scum but I'm not town either" claim by Jake which happened remarkably early game - it would be weird for someone to dayvig based on something that couldve just been and probably was a bad joke.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Nacho this is gonna be really confusing for everyone look Pooky already accidentally scum claimed because of your trickery

~Spiffy

If they don't know the difference between you and I they don't deserve to know the difference between you and I.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

a guess?

i've never seen spiffy roll town in my life

And I still haven't rolled scum since my return. The curse lives on.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

a guess?

I think that Pooky is joking around since Spiffeh rolled scum back to back with us. If he is not joking, it's probable that he thought that the long post that I wrote which was very un-Spiffeh-esque was actually penned by Spiffeh, but that would be a silly mistake to make for someone who knows both of us.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

I'll stop asking questions now.

or will I?

Asking questions is good! Asking questions is encouraged! Oftentimes, we don't ask questions because we think we already know the answer and that is where the most veteran of players often make mistakes!

[Disney Princesses]

imagine thinking i'd read anything that's over 2 lines long in a grand idea game

wild

It's a secret message to someone I like more than I like you

[Disney Princesses]

LOOK, I’M JUST ANGRY I CAN’T BE CULTED AND THAT I HAVE TO SPEAK IN ALL CAPS

I'm sorry that you're both uncultable and not a cult member - I've been waiting to be mafia in a game and I still haven't been mafia yet so I'm a bit frustrated! The potential to type in all caps isn't something to be disappointed in though - there was was a whole group of players who used CAPS POSTING as a tactic to impose their will on the game!

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

I’D RATHER CONFIRM IF UNWNDS ABILITY COUNTS MILLERS FIRST BECAUSE THAT WILL ANSWER A LOT

It would not make sense if it did! Typically, millers only give false positives to cops - other investigatives aren't affected!

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

VOTE: Korina

Can barely hear myself over all the shouting

I got a headache just from reading Korina's shouting. Sounds to me like a crime worthy of killing

VOTE: Korina

These two clearly coordinated their entrances in the scum PT

it makes no difference that the posts are 14 minutes apart

2 down 5 to go

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

The jaundiced and nihilistic approach

My weakness I townread you again

I empathize with you on this. I don't think that I've ever been able to successfully scumread Cephrir - he's just so charming in a grumpy sort of way I can't do anything but adore him.

I know that I'm not the Spiffeh that you want, but can you pretend like I am and vote in non-Raya place unless the vote is serious? Raya is my FAST FRIEND and I'd like to help them get a little space to spread their wings if at all possible.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Very interesting. So we have Korina, Pooky, Magnus, and me.

Assuming you're telling the truth, 2 in Korina, Pooky, and Magnus from my perspective is really not a bad pool

I'm surprised you believed this claim so readily! I expected more fake claims early game, but using a sensor role at that point would be so wildly suboptimal that I find it hard to believe that unwnd would have blown it, even in a casual setup such as this.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

You two bitches ain't pocketing ME

Very well.

My devotion to my FAST FRIENDS is absolute, so if you command me to plunge a knife in my own heart, then I will.

I'll miss you, old friend.

Vote: Disney Princesses

[Disney Princesses]

Very interesting. So we have Korina, Pooky, Magnus, and me.

Assuming you're telling the truth, 2 in Korina, Pooky, and Magnus from my perspective is really not a bad pool

I'm surprised you believed this claim so readily! I expected more fake claims early game, but using a sensor role at that point would be so wildly suboptimal that I find it hard to believe that unwnd would have blown it, even in a casual setup such as this.

~Spiffy

As a follow-up, it seems like your wheels kind of fell off after the censor drama but I did like your progression so great job if you're scum so far!

Do you have any additional thoughts? You seem to have background with Magnus, do you have an impression of him?

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

penguin thinks Toog and Magnus are town.

Why? I find that penguin rarely operates on gut and I'd love to hear the reasoning for her first reads post-hiatus.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

I believed it too at first read. Probably the lack of games in which people can make lolclaims like that.

Makes sense. Thanks for the perspective!

~Spiffeh

[Disney Princesses]

Posts are typically quite short nowadays! I'm kind of an old relic in a world that has moved on without me, actually.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

penguin thinks Toog and Magnus are town.

Why? I find that penguin rarely operates on gut and I'd love to hear the reasoning for her first reads post-hiatus.

~Spiffy

I'd tell her you asked, but you're gonna be yeeted by the time she starts typing up in here~

If this is your will, then I am sure it shall be done. Penguin's magnificence should still be shown to the rest of the world, regardless of whether I am here to see it or not.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

thats the most effort im gonna put into this game btw

I'm crying

[Disney Princesses]

a guess?

i've never seen spiffy roll town in my life

Then today is a monumental day for you

Savor this moment and watch the magic happen

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

But unwnd I thought I already pocketed you did you already decide that was too premature?

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Omg guys it's guaranteed that at least four non-town players have posted thus far

What a scary world we live in

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

But unwnd I thought I already pocketed you did you already decide that was too premature?

~Spiffy

You know what they say, cowboy. Easy come, easy go.

[Disney Princesses]

I thought you trusted me

We do trust you, although I think that the Nacho head trusts you more than the Spiffy head currently. You seem pure and well-intentioned, which is a great starting off point, but I'd like to solidify that read by teaming up with you to crush bad people. The only way we can move from FAST FRIENDS to TOWN FRIENDS by standing on a pile of anti-town bodies that we created.

[Disney Princesses]

Or maybe I just liked the idea of having a pool of 2 scum in 3 people too much.

While this would be convenient, I do think that it's far more likely that unwnd waits to use it as a time where there would be a more significant impact as opposed to using it right now. If fakeclaiming (regardless of alignment), however, it has the advantage of moving us to a serious stage earlier than it might otherwise.

[Disney Princesses]

I don't have a strong impression of him yet but I did like some of his takes.

What takes of his did you like?

[Disney Princesses]

There are 14 town out of a possible 21 players (acc. to the lovely mod <3)

Did you get info about how many members there are in other alignments?

Vote: dsjstr

I don't like how so far your opening has been entirely mechanics-based. Do you have any players you trust or dislike currently? What do you think of unwnd's claim?

[Disney Princesses]

on further inspection i also think Raya and Cook are also Not Town.

-koba

What are your reasons for either? Raya is currently my strongest townread and while I don't have an impression on Cook he is one of my very special FAST FRIENDS so I'd like to minimize erroneous pushes on him.

[Disney Princesses]

I THINK A DAYVIG SHOULD KILL MYSELF TOO JAKE FROM STATE FARM

Or might we say... Drake From State Farm?

Sorry, I've been struggling to suppress my pun reflex lately. It's a curse.

[Disney Princesses]

ONE OF THE POSTS IN THE GIM THREAD

Dayvigs, I'd recommend not shooting Korina today, until they can prove their role.

This is a silly overreaction to Korina's posts.

[Disney Princesses]

When's the last time you lied?

Probably post #242.

[Disney Princesses]

But both hellbooks and i agree this is scum raya personality.

I haven't played with Raya before, so I don't know her meta. What is her personality as town vs scum?

[Disney Princesses]

Very interesting. So we have Korina, Pooky, Magnus, and me.

Assuming you're telling the truth, 2 in Korina, Pooky, and Magnus from my perspective is really not a bad pool

I wonder if we're dealing with a lot of scum this game. 50% of the votes on one player seems like a lot, especially right at the start of the game when barely anyone has come in.

Also are third party considered scum or do they have their own general term?

tooge gates me that sux

Hot take: Pooky is one of the scum on the wagon. Kind of an easy claim

VOTE: Pooky

So you don't actually think Korina is uncultable or do you just think the restriction is trolling. Not sure I follow what part you think is the lie.

That's true. If I had that ability I probably wouldn't use it right away on the start of the first wagon.

UNVOTE:

The bulk of my townread on Raya is based on this progression. I liked her #35 because immediately drew focus on a limited scum pool that included her; if she was scum and she believed the claim, I think it would be smarter to see if other people bought it before responding/I find it unlikely she would be willing to give it credence.

I liked the push on Pooky based on the pool because it's consistent with her thoughts elsewhere - would have been easy for her to continue pushing Korina but instead she expresses skepticism because the wagon moved too fast, makes sense that she wouldn't push Magnus based on the townlean she mentions later, so Pooky is the last one left.

And backing off the claim completely after someone points out reasoning seemed pure to me since it just doesn't really looks like Raya has an agenda with all of this - she takes a lot of different perspectives in a short amount of time and seems as willing to abandon something as she is to start it which is very much how town should be approaching the game at this stage.

[Disney Princesses]

first impressions, raya scummy xD

Another meta read?
Do you have reasons why?

[Disney Princesses]

Is everyone having a good day so far?

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

unwnd I want you to talk about Bell don't be scared

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Nice wagon guys keep up the good work I'm so proud of all of you

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Don't get snippy with me

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

@Angry Birds The posts you quoted were from Nacho not me so blame him if you scum read us

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

I'm here to make plays and I'm all out of small and medium sized plays

Just would like to take a minute to highlight the best post of the game.

Congratulations, Magnus - thank you for being you.

[Disney Princesses]

Another meta read?
Do you have reasons why?

never meta read, don't have time, here to solve, not read, w/e, etc etc

Why are you voting Raya?

[Disney Princesses]

Imma be real with u
Ur describing how raya plays as scum lol

How would she approach this as town instead?

[Disney Princesses]

Great player list!

What do we know?

This is multiballs BTW

This thing i know.

VOTE: raya

VOTE: Disney Princess

spiffeh rolled scum again hahahahahahaha

You're just jealous you weren't invited to the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

~Spiffy

Odd response

I did NOT like this sequence of posts.

Scummy!

Vote: Vaxkiller

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

I do not understand the townreads on dsjstr right now.
-Early posts are just explaining how grand idea works, nothing ai.
-His logic on unwnd makes it look like he either hasn't read or is ignoring what other people have said about the claim.

I agree with this post!

What do you think of the scumreads on you?

[Disney Princesses]

~Spiffy

Oh golly gee guys I apologize for being so terrible with signing!

[Disney Princesses]

Both Nacho and I agree on Vaxkiller being scummy therefore all town players are required to sheep us until further notice

Thank you all for your consideration

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Because it is something i know.

Don't think this is really revolutionary posting - 7 scum is a lot of scum on 1 team.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Town players required, scum players are still welcomed.

[Disney Princesses]

Both Nacho and I agree on Vaxkiller being scummy therefore all town players are required to sheep us until further notice

Thank you all for your consideration

~Spiffy

Quoting for visibility

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

also what does everyone think abt a d1 massclaim? I think this guarantees we catch out AT LEAST 1 scum with a bad claim.

i was mulling it over during work and think itd be a good move.
-koba

While you're correct that it would likely net us one scum, it would also allow scum to neutralize most if not all of our stronger town PRs, and I have faith that town PRs left unchecked will get us more than one scum.

[Disney Princesses]

Lol @ the notion that Pooky's actions can at all prevent us from thread domination

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Raya and NDMath seem fine

VOTE: Flea The Magic

I agree with both of your takes but your vote could be better.

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Players	comments
Nono	Odd entrance to the game, posts read like, just recalling events in-thread as they are happening, instead of having anything distinct to say,
Raya36	Posts do not jump at me. They are all within reason... Went from (Why would unwnd lie -> OK Maybe unwnd is lying) without concluding why their thought changed. I hope they find conviction eventually
Jake The Wolfie	Willing ignorance in some areas combined with specific confrontation that only bares itself to seem townie.
Vaxkiller	What has you so excited!?!
Cook	Is quite scummy. Vain. Popped in with a Korina vote when everyone was already past that vote. Ignored my claim.
Flea The Magician	Will not be reading faer. Resolved through NAR or mechanics.
Toogeloo	They seem just fine. Not worried. VT modifier thing.
Guillotina	No comment. Spews own alignment with shitty gambit later.
Bell	I worry that he's scum this game. I see the writing on the wall, but not enough to push it yet.
dsjstr	No comment o7
Angry Birds (hydra of Syryana and penguin_alien)	Only posts so far is a hyperactive claim to kill.. *checks ISO* Disney Princesses. Syr wanted to stand close (or generate content) around familiarity gives me great pause.
NDMath	Hello. I don't know how to read you.
Hayker	*Crickets chirping*
PookyTheMagicalBear	Wut haz u so excited
samantha97	Wanted to know my Birthday. OK.
Particularly Stupid (hydra of Cephrir and Lady Lambdadelta)	I want to know more about you. I am null.
Magnus V	Cares more than he wants to. This is usually a good thing.
unwnd	Hey
Disney Princesses (hydra of Spiffeh and Nachomamma8)	Get to it later.
Rebel Radio (hydra of hellbooks and DkKoba)	Not sure, but I don't townread them.
Korina	HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF UNDIVIDED ATTENTION AND LOOKS LIKE THEY WANT TO BE LIMMED JUST IGNORE IT

I got so excited for a minute and then I got so disappointed

[Disney Princesses]

spiffey hasn't joined my cult yet

very susp

I'll make an alliance with you if you join your power with mine in order to crush Vaxkiller.

[Disney Princesses]

WOULD ME GIVING MY OPINION ON YOUR SLOT MAKE YOU EXCITED D.P.?

Of course! You are one of my FAST FRIENDS, so any opinions that you grace me with will brighten my day and enrich my life.

[Disney Princesses]

Waiting for Nachohead to go to the mats on a townread for an obvscum player before I give him a town read myself.

...and here I was, so incredibly excited to play with you again. It's amazing how quickly things can change.

[Disney Princesses]

claims are limited - it'd be a simple matter to see who faked theirs
-koba

claims are limited - it'd be a simple matter to see who faked theirs
-koba

there's almost 10,000 roles wat

And we can search roles to verify what we need, so some poor reasoning floating around here.

[Disney Princesses]

Um why are people making posts that don't include Vaxkiller votes????

I'm a little confused

I have already declared that all town players are required to sheep us maybe you guys missed it?

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Pooky are you still pretending to scum read me can you get this out of your system soon so we can put the pedal to the metal

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Like Nacho obvtowned in his first 10 posts so fair warning I am not going to tolerate much distrust of our slot

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Agreed Magnus

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

unwnd that wasn't your best post

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

Cephy I think you're town too I hope you don't brutally betray me and take inappropriate advantage of this trust in the future

~Spiffy

[Disney Princesses]

YOU ARE WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT TOWN IN MY OPINION. <3

<3

IF THIS POST WAS AN ATTEMPT TO RECRUIT ME TO THE CULT OF KORINA, THEN IT HAS SUCCEEDED.

I DON'T REALLY TRUST POOKY AT THE MOMENT THOUGH.

[Disney Princesses]

DP why are you voting Vax? Oh yeah it's because he's listless and his content sucks. Why am I voting Cook? Pretty much same reason. Work with me here. What makes your scumread more scummier than mine.

I'm not overjoyed with Cook at the moment but the difference between Cook and Vax is experience - I'm more inclined to give a Dec 2020 join date some breathing room as opposed to someone I've played with before who seems to intentionally be taking a back seat.

[Disney Princesses]

Bell isn't a bad scumread either, I also don't feel great with him.

[Disney Princesses]

Dear god i signed up for this madness.

o7

VOTE: Hayker

Terrible ISO

Let's vote Vax together.
I don't think anyone making one lame post is that alignment indicative regardless of who they are - I do think Vax's entry was the fakest sounding yet and I'm really not a fan of how he slid into someone I find likely town.

[Disney Princesses]

unwnd I am being persuaded to believe that you are the reason that we know that there are 14 town I will need to check again but I love this dialogue.

Bear with me I know that I'm running on fumes about to get another drink but I'll finish this for sure sorry sorry

Dj I love you but you might be drunk.

[Disney Princesses]

I've caught Vax before (recently even) and I can say I am only slightly pinged. I don't hate your vote. Can you talk to me a bit more about Syr? He came in really fired up on your slot and I've been thinking about that a lot.

I expected that entry about Syr regardless of alignment; it wasn't his intention to take the game all that seriously regardless of his alignment and it's very much a Syryana move to troll attempt to grind me into the ground.

Penguin's magnificent entry seemed more likely to be town than not; I don't think there's too many differences in how she'd approach the game as scum vs town here, but one thing that I'm looking out for is how awkward/tentative she is with interactions with me and I haven't felt anything off so far.

[Disney Princesses]

I've caught Vax before (recently even) and I can say I am only slightly pinged. I don't hate your vote. Can you talk to me a bit more about Syr? He came in really fired up on your slot and I've been thinking about that a lot.

I mean shit can I just get a Vax vote based on a personal favor? Chances are that I die earlier as opposed to later - Spiffeh and I both tend to get killed fairly early in games and multiball just compounds that, you're correct that we need some vote consolidation so we're moving towards that, and we are currently the loudest so we will probably have the best luck rallying people to our cause.

Please?

[Disney Princesses]

Willing to trust your thought on them for now. I just know from talking to Syr he sorta hates being scum right now and I can see him getting all jazzed and staying close to familiar people. I wasn't sure if it was particularly telling

Your thought is correct but scum!Syr is aware of these things so likely takes a similar approach and has dealt with me frequently enough in games (and in life!) where there's no way he would not know to fake some of that chucklefuck energy.

The difference in scum!Syr and town!Syr is how long he can sustain that fuckboi energy and what exactly gets him riled up.

[Disney Princesses]

Sure but if I die then if I get a good lead you make sure it's heard because recent games I either

You have a deal as long as next time I die screaming about a hard meta scumread you listen to me

[Disney Princesses]

I SHALL FOLLOW D.P. AND VOTE VAX, WHO I DO NOT REMEMBER SEEING.

If I wasn't on mobile I'd post a dank meme here, but your faith is appreciated regardless. We won't let you down.

[Disney Princesses]

Korina why are you still writing with a fake chat restriction?

Why does it matter? Korina is having fun, as is the spirit of the game.

What do you think of Vaxkiller? Why do you seem so surface level this game? Typically, I would expect you to be digging your teeth into something by now but all you're giving me is fury wrt a very inconsequential post restriction?

[Disney Princesses]

I appreciate the deep pocket, Disney Princesses, and will readily climb in and make myself cozy

Now that we've successfully pocketed you if you could also sheep us in destroying Vaxkiller that would be SWELL. While I'm not the biggest fan of Rebel's posting thus far I think that the Vax entrance was both bad and substantial enough to give me confidence that it's an alignment-indicative type of bad.

[Disney Princesses]

Spiffey still hasn't joined our cult

very susp

We are very very town.

I don't understand your vote on Rebel. I don't understand why you're not joining hands with us to crush scum currently; we will not be long for this world and so it only makes sense for us to unite on this, if only for a day.

[Disney Princesses]

if spiffey actually wanted to eliminate vaxscum he would've joined the cult and tried to get our votes instead of taking rando potshots

he must be filled with fear that he can't make it through our highly stringent vetting process

We need to be wined and dined before we conform to any group at all. I thought that you would make us feel special, that you would go to the ends of the earth to pursue us.

But now we have scum and we're dropping him on your doorstep but you're voting Rebel Radio instead... why?

[Disney Princesses]

mindmeld with rebel on wolf, tbh, or at first
but present push on non-town claim pooky seems disingenuous, reaching/hopeful at best, but don't think they're that innocent to be hopeful)
raya, was feeling strongly, but fell asleep and feelings vanished because apathy, would still keep an eye on wolf, or revisit

i'll play)
VOTE: radio

I've come to the realization that I've understood approximately nothing in any of the posts that you've made.

[Disney Princesses]

I don't see the reason for all the rebel votes.
Rather, mostly, I feel like it's because they're being more of a flamethrower and silly town are being mixed in with opportunistic scum.
I have no idea how many votes are on them though.

Then vote scum with us, then.

[Disney Princesses]

someone give a reason to not vote for hayker

He's made exactly one post which says "I don't care about the game!" as opposed to the Vax entry which says "I'm scum! Kill me!".

[Disney Princesses]

I don't see the reason for all the rebel votes.
Rather, mostly, I feel like it's because they're being more of a flamethrower and silly town are being mixed in with opportunistic scum.
I have no idea how many votes are on them though.

Then vote scum with us, then.

what makes vax scum to you?
-koba

Why do you think that he's town?

[Disney Princesses]

This is multiballs BTW

VOTE: raya

So general pieces on his entry is that it was bland as hell - there's nothing he did to stick his neck out at all, nothing mildly controversial. Next, I'm squicked out by the multiball declaration. Like, hell yeah, fairly obvious that it's multiball based on 7 scum, but Vax is the type of player that would miss the mod declaration at the beginning, but would know that it was multiball because he was sitting on a smaller scumteam. Finally, I don't like the Raya vote here - Raya wagon was a larger one and he just kind of slides on without giving any reason why - I kind of get why you and samantha and whoever else voted Raya but I don't see why Vax would make that vote.

[Disney Princesses]

koba don't leave me hanging I'm planning on going to bed soon but I refuse until you explain why you're townreading Vaxkiller

[Disney Princesses]

Don't like Cook avoiding this game while posting elsewhere.

[Disney Princesses]

and bsed on his low post count i dont think u can confidently sort him as scum here

You are voting Hayker.

[Disney Princesses]

Again, not really seeing anywhere that I can contribute.

If you have a place for me to put a vote, I'll sheep you.

Otherwise, I'm sitting here, as my role requires people to be dead to do anything.

Vote Vax with us!

If you're not sure where to contribute, then look at the rest of the fast friends in ISO:

Raya, Korina, unwnd, Angry Birds.

What is your gut impression of each player? Did any of them make points that you liked? Did any of them make points that you disliked?

[Disney Princesses]

hayker is scum to me

are u townreading hayker?
-koba

You said that Vax didn't post enough for you to scumread him, but you're voting Hayker who has even less posts than Vax. That's not a valid rebuttal.

[Disney Princesses]

3 scum reads are voting vax + 1 null read vs 2 townreads are voting with me on hayker - i am trusting this PoV better -koba

This would be useful if you knew your reads are correct. Otherwise, if you're town, you're using one unknown to reinforce another unknown, which is wildly unhelpful.

[Disney Princesses]

ok i didnt word it well , you are attaching to technicalities.

it is that i did not think have anything scummy in their limited post to be confident enough to scumread while hayker's actiosn more line up to a scum meta i have seen in a game i was in with them recently -koba

I'm trying to get more out of you other than "Hayker is scummy because he's scummy and Vax is townie because he's townie".

What game are you referencing? What are the similarities to his scum game? Do you have a town game to act as a baseline as well?

[Disney Princesses]

hayker also had a very low post count that game
-koba

Hayker seems to have a low post count in every game he plays. Are you sure that's indicative of his alignment?

[Disney Princesses]

Otherwise, I'm sitting here, as my role requires people to be dead to do anything.

And this is not the right mindset to have.

Presumably, your role requires all threats to the town to be dead, which you can't get by nightplay alone. You're also playing a game with a high concentration of scum (1 in every 3, with a high likelihood that 2 townies are dying every night), meaning that it's important that townies find each other early and that we make smart lynches early.

So maybe you feel overwhelmed and like you don't have a lot to contribute, but the beauty of this game is that you don't need to be right, you just need to

try

; the more vocal you are, the more other players can see where you're coming from and the higher the chance that you pick up on something that others missed, but if you just sit on your laurels all game because you're waiting to use your role then you'll just be mislynched or roleblocked by scum.

[Disney Princesses]

can you link a town game?
-koba

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Mind you this game is from 2011, he ended up replacing out, and he's rolled scum seven times in a row between this game and the one I'm linking you, but it just seems fairly obvious this guy doesn't post a whole lot.

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And from a quick skim of Cook's other games he's very capable of posting as either alignment so I'm expecting a lot more from him next time I pop into thread.

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Bell is the best out of that group but your reads seem kinda kattywhompus to me.

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Hey guys great wagon I'm so proud

But I don't want a quickhammer there is so much left to explore!

UNVOTE: Vaxkiller

And I will assume that anyone who questions or suspects me because of this is scum or bad at mafia

~Spiffy

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Hmmmm should I read the whole game now or stick to reading posts I see when I visit the thread?

~Spiffy

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Idk Pooky what do you think?

~Spiffy

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I am always listening Pookster

I

am

always

listening

....

~Spiffy

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I also think Spiffeh is off and that Nacho has been covering for him pretty blatantly.

Yeah I can see why it's concerning to you that I'm off from the three scum games you've seen me play

Oh wait no I can't

~Spiffy

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Bell please explain what you believe is "off" about me

~Spiffy

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Thanks Magnus I really appreciate that

~Spiffy

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~Spiffy

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Hayker is a good wagon

VOTE: Bell

~Spiffy

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i know this won't work but what if we just agreed to all not post in twilight so we don't make 30 more pages of worthless tripe until tomorrow

+1

~Spiffy

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Hi I'm boycotting this twilight sorry if you miss my comforting presence

Bell is still probably scum even though I haven't read much since my last post!

~Spiffy

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Bell is is aughable that you think we have a chance in hell of being scum here lmao

That's like 41% of the reason I think you're scum actually

~Spiffy

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Ok Bell who is scum tho?

~Spiffy

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I want a full gamesolve by tomorrow morning no exceptions

~Spiffy

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Hey Pooky. I know that Spiffy's been a real dick to you this game but can I join your cult with my bro Syryana? Even if I have to cast aside my hydra partner to do it.

-Nacho

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WOW

~Spiffy

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Pooky what Nachster fails to mention is how much I rave about you behind the scenes

~Spiffy

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Vote: unwnd

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Too convenient. Disliked unwnd before the claim. Hated the claim as it unfolded.

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Want Spiffeh's input before I go hard, but I feel remarkably confident that this hits scum.

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Korina, is there a scum-aligned town Counter role?

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Thank you Korina! Unwnd Must Die.

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CHATCHO MODE ACTIVATED

CULT, WITH ME - UNWND IS YOUR ENEMY

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But yeah, unless someone wants to counter claim town counter. We're done here?

Sorry you couldn't look cool if you're town here Unwnd. You had a bad read unfortunately.

BELL, I HAVE STARED INTO YOUR SOUL

A TOWNIE AND ONE OF THE ONLY CONFIRMABLE TOWN ROLES HAVE STARED BACK

HELP ME KILL THE MAN THAT TRIED TO EXTINGUISH YOUR BEAUTIFUL TOWNIE LIGHT. IT IS TIME.

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Nacho you're so dreamy

Is there a possibility of a scum version of Bell's role? I have not read anything about this setup whatsoever

~Spiffy

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I claim Town Bloodhound

Each night I can check someone. They either come up Town or Not Town

My sanity is not confirmed but there's only one way to find out

THIS IS HOT GARBAGE. THIS IS NOT TOWN WITH A GUILTY SPEAKING. THIS IS SCUM.

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Is there a possibility of a scum version of Bell's role? I have not read anything about this setup whatsoever

Korina did the lord's work and confirmed for me that the only version of counter possible is a town one.

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Uh oh unwnd trouble in paradise

~Spiffy

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I don't see what we think unwnd's master plan is here.

There's not a master plan.

Unwnd wanted to get a lynch on someone not on his team. Unwnd planned to wriggle out of that lynch by claiming sanity shenanigans. Every time this format rolls out someone tries a bloodhound fakeclaim. Not today, Satan.

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Unwnd, you're still very likely to be insane or paranoid if town. You should have done more research and poked at me more before gunning it.

If unwnd was town you wouldn't have to say this to him.

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Look at what setup we're in? Look at the type of game we're playing. This game is not balanced in such a way that me holding to results and simply waiting. There has already been more than one kill which points to a SK or some other fucking nonsense.

Why would you investigate Bell?

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It is mechanical. You claimed a guilty on a player who is town. Now you die.

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Yeah I'd much rather ignore this and aim elsewhere thanks.

Where else are you aiming?
I don't mind elaborating on my thought process in full but things seem pretty cut and dry to me here. I might do a bit more hand-wringing if this were not Grand Idea Mafia but the claim is more likely to be scum than not, the investigation target is more likely to be scum than not. It's a good lynch. What more do you need?

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Not sure yet.

It doesnt seem that cut and dry to me. If unwnd is scum and also not really a bloodhound here, then I would guess he was an eliminator which I wouldn't care about at all.

Unwnd could be a lyncher. He could be factional scum. He could be cult. His win condition is being served by securing the lynch via getting Bell killed then trying to talk his way out of it later.

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You were fine with it being a thunderdome before you stepped in it.

Love it

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VOTE: Jake
Claim thanks.

What's the interest in Jake about?

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If the townizer targets a townie, is that townie notified they were targeted or is it just a whiff?

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Jake's roleclaim shenanigans were mildly amusing but unwnd is groupscum and needs to be the priority.

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Samantha hardclaimed that she would target Korina with the town recruiter role so that dog doesn't hunt either.

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Meanwhile, unwnd is scum who likely has teammates - if he was solo scum then he wouldn't be able to make such a risky play but as group scum he can net a mislynch on someone who wouldn't be mislynched otherwise and than play it off as sanity issues.

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Like if Jake's grand plan as scum was to get run up and then roleclaim something that isn't in the 500 page grand idea thread that isn't town then he's completely off his rocker and deserves a free ride past today for the sheer chutzpah of it all.

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I'm still alive, getting swamped in inventory stuff at the moment and likely won't be able to make it back until Saturday, so... prod dodge until then.

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Lol @ how Bell still wants to lim us when Nacho obvtowned Day 1, kind of embarrassing for him if he's Town.

I am just a horrible hydra partner that hasn't read this game since like the first twenty pages, and for that I apologize.

But I probably still won't be reading this game. I know Nacho was still p. sure unwnd was scum and I never townread him so that is still fine with me.

Hope you're all having fun!

~Spiffy

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Hello Cephrir

I hope you are having a good night

That is all

~Spiffy

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We don't want damaged goods either!!!