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VOTE: minimegabyteIn post 89, MiniMegabyte wrote:In post 86, bugspray wrote:In post 1, MiniMegabyte wrote:> Night actions must be submitted via PM or, if applicable, inside a factional private topic.@mod are we allowed to submit night actions in personal private topics if we aren't scum?Yes that is allowed-
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UNVOTE:In post 256, Andresvmb wrote:I would like to see some more input from some of the slots that have like 1 post and all they’ve said is hi.
yeah, me too....wait i think you mean me.
some people i've not played with before in this game taking up a high percentage of posts but it aint helping me get anywhere with the game-
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there is never a case day 1. to come up with an actual correct case on scum day 1 takes an exceptionally bad scum player.In post 337, Jim Hawkins wrote:
Yeah, sorry. I just don't see the case against cook. Feel free to change my mindIn post 335, bugspray wrote:cook can get yeeted but i'm interested why he's in jim's townreads when that's literally the only mention of cook in his entire iso
all logic based wagons day 1 are bunkum, either powered by bad town or members of the mafia-
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I dont know. How am I meant to know that yet?In post 341, Facebones wrote:
Do you think the wagon on Cook was powered by bad town or mafia?In post 340, geraintm wrote:all logic based wagons day 1 are bunkum, either powered by bad town or members of the mafia-
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Nope, not gut feeling.In post 343, Facebones wrote:I wasn't asking you for certainties, mate- was merely enquiring if you had a gut feel one way or the other-
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In post 495, DkKoba wrote:
Which wagons were ineffective to you?In post 494, geraintm wrote:I read overnight, see wagons come and go. are they there to put pressure on people or something, because if you don't give the target time to actually reply and move elsewhere is just weird....In post 381, RLotus wrote:townlean Jim for the against the grain read on Cook
everyone actively vocal feels null or better tbh
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see, when I said this, that the wagons were worthless, I got asked what I meant. I like someone else actually went through and explained it better than I didIn post 546, Facebones wrote:Jim very clearly said he couldn't see Cook as scum, but was open to hearing peoples cases. I think people realised they couldn't form a convincing case on Cook based on his unorthodox posting style. They noticed Jim wasn't buying into the potential mislim and scum didn't like people coming up with their own thoughts and opinions. The fact that the very next wagon was on Jim doesn't seem like just a coincidence to me.
DkKoba comes in drunk and places a vote for Polaris, says they want to elim Polaris the most out of everyone, then 5 posts later votes Jim without any explanation. No more than half an hour after, Jim is at -3.
What I don't get is why Cook decided to get on the Jim wagon after Jim was seemingly the only one to disagree with the Cook wagon.
The subsequent Jim vote on Cook seems very OMGUS.
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really?In post 613, Andresvmb wrote:For what it’s worth I think geraintm is saying more than usual. If that’s coming from Town or not I don’t know.
Hello there
bit rude though
yeah, this feels more rightIn post 617, Egix96 wrote:
In my one prior game with him (here) he posted about 5x as much as here within the first 600 posts so I find that kinda surprising.In post 613, Andresvmb wrote:For what it’s worth I think geraintm is saying more than usual.
someone asked for reads.
I don't really have much.
Flea I have no idea what they are on about
DKKoba is talking so much they shouldn't get eliminated today.
Dislike RLotus for this vote
and even more so this from CookIn post 381, RLotus wrote:townlean Jim for the against the grain read on Cook
everyone actively vocal feels null or better tbh
VOTE: Polaris
and this stinks from Andreas
In post 387, Andresvmb wrote:VOTE: Polaris
there is scum in there somewhere would be my guess, strongest guess I have
and then this happensso, I am basically picking someone at semi-random from these votes and will VOTE: Andresvmb
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There were like 4 possible people to pick from, I think 2 appeared twice, I went with one of the ones who appeared in both thr weird series of posts (who wasn't dkkoba). That was how semi random it wasIn post 669, Flea The Magician wrote:Picking someone at semi-random implies theres something else driving you. Care to elaborate?-
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Care to explain what pings you?
I went back over one of the few things in day 1 that I noticed and after looking at it, came up with someone I wanted to vote for. What pings you abojtbthat?-
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this is as good as it gets day 1 from me.
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did you mind my vote for you?In post 723, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t know why Cook is piling onto my slot, since I haven’t really contributed after voting for Jim and signaling that there was Scum between the two. Can’t say I love that vote.
I need to sleep, unfortunately. I’ll be around tomorrow since it’s finally the weekend and I don’t have to work.-
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The reason why I asked if you minded my vote was because you posted you didn't like cook's vote, but made no mention of mineIn post 745, Andresvmb wrote:
Not sure I get what you’re trying to get at with this. I haven’t made myself obvious, so I don’t expect everybody to read me properly. I have yet to be executed early around here, so maybe I’m due? Now, if you’re asking me whether care about getting votes, I care. Being mis-executed is never a good feeling. But somebody has to get executed, so I don’t take it personally.In post 737, geraintm wrote:
did you mind my vote for you?In post 723, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t know why Cook is piling onto my slot, since I haven’t really contributed after voting for Jim and signaling that there was Scum between the two. Can’t say I love that vote.
I need to sleep, unfortunately. I’ll be around tomorrow since it’s finally the weekend and I don’t have to work.-
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Nah, I'm happy with the way indo day 1s. As little damage as possible, nothing stupid like fake claims, spouting 100% certainty someone is town or scum, things like that. I hate day 1s, as there is literally nothing factual to go on. Later in the game it gets better as we have the evidence of votes and eliminations and some players becoming more informed.In post 769, Jim Hawkins wrote:Honestly, I agree with Andres reads. From what I can tell, Cook is at E-2, and I am okay with this. But, I am also on-board for a geraintm lynch. They have posted almost no content. SOMEHOW couldn't come up with reads on anyone by post 666:
Not understanding what someone is saying isn't a read. Thinking someone is saying too much also isn't a read.In post 666, geraintm wrote:someone asked for reads.
I don't really have much.
Flea I have no idea what they are on about
DKKoba is talking so much they shouldn't get eliminated today.
And then they admitted in post 735 that quoting without analyzing and lurking around was as good as it's going to get.You may want to change up your Day 1 playing style. VOTE: geraintm
The only reason I have a vote on now is because the 2 sets of "randlm" quick votes pinged me so hard and someone was on both. Normally day 2 I start looking at the position of people on wagons , trying to work outbwho was scummy. But for once votes looked bad enough that I thought the chances they are scum were high enough to place a vote.-
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Who is this directed at?In post 777, Flea The Magician wrote:Lets start getting something substantive on you.
Give me your hottest take and why.
I also want you coldest take and why.
If me: hottest take is we should not eliminate anyone today.
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@cook
The problem with the entire post you've made is the assumptions on odds on hitting scum/town
Scum can drive wagons away from scum. The odds aren't 3/13, but way less than that. Has anyone ever actually done a study on day 1 scum eliminations in games? My guess would be 5%.
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I am pretty sure I said I dont want to eliminate dkkova today because there was so many posts others will be able to solve them later. I said when I voted you it was semi random. And since I placed it, not seen a reason to move itIn post 852, Andresvmb wrote:
Yet you said this about them. So the reasoning behind your vote on me is completely contrived. Alright good to know.In post 582, geraintm wrote:I see no reason to eliminate dkkoba today. There will be enough in their posts to sort them later.-
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I feel like you are incorrectly stating what I posted or else missing what I said.In post 968, Andresvmb wrote:
No that wasn’t me. That was Jim. geraintm has crap logic for voting me, and they know better. They made this point that’s just not true about how I made two quick votes on two wagons and that made me look bad, while also saying they wouldn’t touch Koba. And Koba did the exact same thing. It was nonsense.In post 967, nopointinactingup wrote:Andres, you said Geraint was scum because he was lurking and did not have content. What's different between here and Innocent?
There were a couple of quick wagons one night that didn't go anywhere, didn't even allow pressure to build on some of the people involved.
I looked at who was on these wagons and took names.
I normally look at votes and where they are on them to try and work out who I thibk is scum. I normally wait until day 2.of games when I have some info on the alignment of players.
But this game I did it day 1 for once (I dont like being useless day 1, so if I can help town out ill try).
I believe 2 people were on both wagons, and people on 2 bad wagons raise my senses.
You were one, dkkoba was the other.
But I had already said in the game that I had no interest in voting dkkoba today. They simply were posting so much that players would be able to sort them at a later stage.
This meant I voted for you. My random vote was on the mod, so I needed to have an actual vote, and you were the person who had made me sit up and notice the most.
You keep throwing out that I picked you and didn't vote dkkoba for doing the exact same thing. That is correct, but I have explained why but you seem to be skipping over that in every post of yours that is trying to push others to vote for me.
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This is in reference to their post 586. Their recap, which I couldn't make head or tail of. I said I want to vote for them, but I meant it in "if I have to suffer posts like that which make my head hurt, I'd rather not have to"In post 977, Andresvmb wrote:They said my vote for Polaris “stunk”, while also calling their vote amongst four choices semi-random. And they had a play style complaint about Flea if I recall correctly while saying they would vote there because they didn’t expect to ever get along.
Yeah, it’s not strong evidence. But nothing with geraintm is ever going to be either.
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so, all i spent the night thinking was about what the counter wagon was at the end of the day because there must have been an effort by scum to try and save Cook.
and i am almost certainly being myopic about it, but the only one i can recall was Andres' trying to push me.
i don't think i have any reason to not start today the same way i ended yesterday
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did you not investigate me overnight? i assumed you were from your post yesterday, and so i know if you had you wouldnt be voting for me.
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im not sure why you are so shocked I voted for you at the start of today (before all the mason claims came in).In post 1088, Andresvmb wrote:I mean I’ll say, geraintm is like always Scum. Stepping away after this? Voting me coming into today? Can we flip that too?
I was voting for you at the end of day 1. I said in my post that I felt you were trying discredit me with your posts in day 1, so in my head I am sitting there going "were there any attemts at counterwagons to cook yesterday and I ony noticed one from you towards me".
so why wouldn't I continue to vote for you when I entered day 2? nothing had changed for me.
but do this now as voting for you is def not the right thing to be doing
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I was fairly sure I wasn't going to add anything meaningful to the conversation between Dkkoba and everyone else, they needed to talk themselves outIn post 1079, Egix96 wrote:
Dude no what are you doing, pls stayIn post 1069, geraintm wrote:i'm off to play Crusader Kingdoms for a while, i'm just going to let you all clear up this shit show...
This I can believe. I just seem as dkkoba as way too overclever, but having scum trying this and raising their profile to this level of ridiculousness just seems not believable to me. I am going to read dkkoba as town for the time being but hope someone else can solve them properly before the end of the game.In post 1080, DkKoba wrote:Do u think i as scum do something like that on d2 after losing a partner?
Do u think i as scun dont get cook to claim a pr?
because I have made this choice about my read on dkkoba, the next X pages are just mostly irrelevant because they are very very unlikely to change my mind.
this does not mean I trust their reads in anyway though.
you really don't like me do you (in mafia terms). I am not sure there is anything I can do in this game that would change your opinion on me. like, because I don't give this game my 100% focus (when the shitstorm isn't anything to do with me) you hold that against me and want to use as a reason to vote for me?In post 1088, Andresvmb wrote:I mean I’ll say, geraintm is like always Scum. Stepping away after this? Voting me coming into today? Can we flip that too?
don't single out cook as someone I wouldn't vote for. day 1, I will not vote for anyone 98% of the time....In post 1099, Andresvmb wrote:Why would you be concerned about my slot? You’re like planning to align yourself with geraintm who refused to vote Cook and insisted on staying on me? Why?
up to around 1135 and one reason why I think so many people are bad at this game so often is all these people sitting there going "oh, we should flip Geraint as he is likely scum" and as I know my alignment I just roll my eyes and go "oh no, not again..."
[quote="In [url=viewtopic.php?p=12531269#p12531269]Given that you will be lynched today dkKoba, what read would you leave behind? Tell me who scum is[/quote]
they deserve to be eliminated, but I don't think they should be
well, I agree it looks terribleIn post 1151, Andresvmb wrote:In post 789, geraintm wrote:
Who is this directed at?In post 777, Flea The Magician wrote:Lets start getting something substantive on you.
Give me your hottest take and why.
I also want you coldest take and why.
If me: hottest take is we should not eliminate anyone today.
Coldest...no idea
I also think this is objectively terrible.In post 860, geraintm wrote:@cook
The problem with the entire post you've made is the assumptions on odds on hitting scum/town
Scum can drive wagons away from scum. The odds aren't 3/13, but way less than that. Has anyone ever actually done a study on day 1 scum eliminations in games? My guess would be 5%.
So why throw away a town slot day 1 for free?now...-
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just realised there was an error in my quoting. I tried to reply to someone (I think it was nopoint) saying dkkoba will be eliminated today by saying I think they should be (anyone who fake claims so hard should be eliminated) but I think they are town so I don't think that it would be a good idea - they can be solved later on now they have such a huge target on them.-
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I know I am town. So I am happy right now if people put me in a box like that where I won't cause any trouble. I will just be happier to contribute more once people decide to move on from dkkoba or notIn post 1343, bugspray wrote:i don't think locknull is a thing and it's definitely not desirable to be locknull as any alignment
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@Flea - i'm not sure what you expect of me. you spent a huge long post that basically said "dkkoba did a scummy thing, but i'm basically going to give them the benefit of the doubt" which is what I did in two lines.
I could have written a huge long post like you, but frankly it would have been a waste of time and I covered it in my post 1231.
you also earlier called me out for being half arsed...in the same post you admitted you have flaked on the game.
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yep, and I've explained this. do least harm if you cannot advance the game state, let those who can...do.In post 1365, Flea The Magician wrote:, while you're content to actively coast.
I know that eliminating me won't help town, so why raise my head over the parapet and get shot like say...dkkoba did. games would be much easier for town if no one lied and just did the boring things and let scum have to be weird and justify their awful actions.-
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Reads you say....
I know I am an easy elimination, dkkoba was too. People voting these 2 slots are suspicious in my book....-
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Me not voting really doesn't mean anything.In post 1428, Jim Hawkins wrote:Gamma/DK is at L-2, but still, I agree that we should hold off on hammering until we hear from them first.
Odd, though... assuming two scum remain, this would be an easy target for them to wagon on, unless they are both already voting Gamma/Dk, or Gamma/Dk is one of them and the other doesn't want to bus their partner.
The town seems torn between Gamma/Dk and gerain, both of whom are, oddly, not voting at all for either case. I really think we might be on the right track here.
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I just can't work out how people could see me as scum when I was so against eliminating dkkoba is allIn post 1462, Flea The Magician wrote:Potentially yes.
I have suspicions on setup which I need to confirm via normal rulesets - its rare I play normals.-
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You think? Killijg dkkoba was terrible and was obvious at the time. Their play sucked, but killing them then was not the right thing to do and that wagon was way too easy.In post 1470, bugspray wrote:
at worst this is a tmi coming from frustrated!scum who is upset that trying to avoid a wagon they knew was town for towncred didn't have the intended effectIn post 1463, geraintm wrote:
I just can't work out how people could see me as scum when I was so against eliminating dkkoba is allIn post 1462, Flea The Magician wrote:Potentially yes.
I have suspicions on setup which I need to confirm via normal rulesets - its rare I play normals.
i feel like after the momentum we got from d1 town has gotten cocky and we really jumped the shark on koba-
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Ok, looking at the a bunch of the votes, this is where I am at
Andres – early onto Jim Hawkins, late onto Cook
Then day 2 Dkkoba
Facebones – was on Egix day 1, Dkkoba day 2
Nopoint – cook all the way through day 1 except a brief move to dkkoba, and dkkoba day 2
Bugspray – day 1 was on jim Hawkins, andres and me, day 2 dkkoba
Jim Hawkins – solidly cook day 1, dkkoba day 2. Similar to nopoint
Rlotus – waffled day 1 but came to cook, stepped off to dkkoba and then back to cook. Day 2 was dkkoba
Egis – day 1 ws npoint and andres, day 2 was me
Flea – mostly cook day 1, a vote for me and a blank
Voted me day 2
Things which stood out.
No Point I would have as Town even without the claim. Was onto Cook too early and never let up. I cannot see them as scum playing the long game
Jim Hawkins is the same.
I can’t see me voting either of these any time soon.
No one really voted prince zuko or tris either day, they were out of the blue really and on no ones obvious radars.
Flea I am leaning mostly town – early onto cook, didn’t vote the easy dkkoba day 2 (I think scum would hop onto the dkkoba wagon on day 2 because it was so simple to do so)
Andres/Rlotus – these are the two who came onto the cook wagon lateish and normally that would be sus to me.
But andres has the mason claim.
Rlotus looks…bad. Onto cook after earlier votes for facebones and flea, and trys to get off cook to dkkoba before going back. Looks worst so far as the prototypical scum who couldn’t not vote for their partner
Facebones & Bugspray were both nowhere near the Cook wagon day 1 and on the dkkoba day 2. To me, this is prototypical scum “not voting for partner, settle for the easy elimination day 2”
These go in the lean scum pile.
Egix I have a step down from these 2, as wasn’t on the DKkoba wagon
So roughly in order from towniest to scummiest
NoPoint
Andres
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Jim Hawkins
Flea
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Egix
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Facebones
Bugspray
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RLOtus
So I intend to vote for Rlotus after I go back and look at their actual posts and not just votes.-
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In post 1500, Andresvmb wrote:
Nopoint claimed Mason, not me. I do not have that Claim.In post 1497, geraintm wrote:But andres has the mason claim.
i read this and when you said pair i believed you meant two people, with one of them yourself.In post 1061, Andresvmb wrote:
But you just hardclaimed it going into today and outted the other pair... sigh.In post 1059, DkKoba wrote:no im VT and i tried to get nightkilled
my read on you now is much, much worse.-
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I check votes. actual actions > non-actionsIn post 1510, bugspray wrote:
I pressured cook early a ton early and created most of that wagon's early momentum but decided to put my vote elsewhere later because I wanted to gather more info, this is really disenginuousIn post 1497, geraintm wrote:Facebones & Bugspray were both nowhere near the Cook wagon day 1-
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i'm curious. what makes you think I am scummy? how does my interaction with the elimination yesterday strengthen your scum reading?In post 1516, Jim Hawkins wrote:Considering who is left, here are my updated reads:
Town Vibes: nopointinactingup, Andresvmb, bugspray
Nullish Vibes: Flea The Magician, Egix96
Scum Vibes: geraintm, Facebones, RLotus
Out of the scum, I would rather vote geraintm and then Facebones.-
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if this is from town, then this and dkkoba's claim yesterday are just the dumbest things going. why would town do such stupid things??
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so, andres looks much worse than i initially had. i just totally misread how no points claim went down, I thought there were 3 masons (I have it in the spreadsheet I have tracking votes a ittle <- MASON next to andres' name and everything)In post 1497, geraintm wrote:Ok, looking at the a bunch of the votes, this is where I am at
Andres – early onto Jim Hawkins, late onto Cook
Then day 2 Dkkoba
Andres/Rlotus – these are the two who came onto the cook wagon lateish and normally that would be sus to me.
But andres has the mason claim.
without them being a mason, they just get left with me thinking they looked bad day 1, happy to eliminate the each slot on day 2 and now day 3 the whole "i'm obviously town and how dare anyone think otherwise...." I just don't get.
but, I am not going to have them as high as rlotus from looking at the votes-
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Being so stubborn in "I'm town and ya'll need to get over it " isn't helpingIn post 1535, Andresvmb wrote:
I am trying to help you here - you’re wasting your time. I’m not Scum and you’re looking in the wrong place. Being so stubborn about it is not a good look for you.In post 1531, geraintm wrote:so, andres looks much worse than i initially had.-
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I dont understand why you can say I scum read lotus is understandable to you....but me reading you as scum for effectively the same thing is bad??In post 1553, Andresvmb wrote:Like geraintm let’s get real. You’ve basically tunneled me 3 days in a row. You’ve barely looked past me, only to shade a slot in Lotus that I’ve for the most part TR’ed but I can see why you might suspect them. Like it’s not out of the question, but I also don’t think they’re the most likely person to strike Scum here.-
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