TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[Flavor Leaf]

This is my first non large in team mafia, and my first as town since the very first one I did like in 2015-2016, but I was VT who got killed early if I remember correctly, but it was also insignificant

[NorwegianboyEE]

Last year I slip as mafia, the one before that like 3-4 years ago, I get worlds most terrible rand as scum in the Large Theme and still nearly go all the way solo, this year I solve as town early and get misfaded

I must have some type of Team Mafia curse

If Pine flips scum i'd vote Ramcius first and if he flips scum we can all go home happy and you don't even get misfaded.

[NorwegianboyEE]

JJH wants you to stop trying to artificially make yourself the centre of the game by pretending you'd get misfaded when you actually already are the centre of the game because you're wedged inbetween scum!Pine and scum!ram.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m always the center of the game, irregardless of anything I do by choice—it’s just what happens

[Flavor Leaf]

Real life too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

JJ has created an informative meme to help FL to see the game state for what it really is.

[Flavor Leaf]

Good looking sandwich, not gonna lie.

[Pine]

Norwegian's just scum essentially giving his life to get rid of the JK.

You’re being a bit of a clown. I hope you’ll reflect on it.

Wait a second. Shea told me Norwegian isn’t toxic and does nothing wrong

::think::

[Flavor Leaf]

Ramcius could end up being scum, sure, but i still think it’s Norwegian/Ram if that is the case.

If Pine is scum, yes, Ramcius is the most likely partner, but I don’t think Pine is scum

[Flavor Leaf]

Norwegian's just scum essentially giving his life to get rid of the JK.

You’re being a bit of a clown. I hope you’ll reflect on it.

Wait a second. Shea told me Norwegian isn’t toxic and does nothing wrong

::think::

What a hatchet if I’ve ever seen, if Status told you Norwegian isn’t being toxic here. It’s so just Norwegian/Status.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nothing better to say?

[Pine]

Nothing better than pointing out continued toxicity, duplicity, and unexplained chainsaw defense?

No, the prosecution rests.

[Mistyx]

what about the defense

do they have anything to say

[Pine]

My defense of myself?

I’ve made an extremely comprehensive case as to why a Jailkeeper is appropriate from a setup perspective, supplemented by meta arguments about how I never claim that unless it’s true. I’ve also pointed out that letting me do my damn job will mathematically solve the game, though I’d be happy to expand on that. Jingle even made an infographic that the mods told me explicitly I was not allowed to post. I could try to recreate it or explain it in writing.

I’ve also apologized for my earlier counterproductive and condescending behavior.

The strongest defense I have to offer, however, is that since becoming thoroughly engaged, almost everything I’ve done has been in furtherance of solving and sorting. The job of a Townie isn’t to weasel out of a noose, it’s to find scum and prosecute them. That’s what I’ve been doing.

[Flavor Leaf]

idk man, nothing's really changed for me since I last put everything out.

My reasons are solid, when I start casing again Norwegian just goes "all you do is repeat stuff"

okay, but hypothetically, if I saw someone robbing a liquor store, me continuing to say i saw this man rob a liquor store, i know because I recognize the shoes he was wearing because I saw them at a local nordstrom, and thought, hey, i like those shoes, but if that's what I got, people going "what else ya got" well, i saw him do it.

you're just repeating the same thing.

still saw him do it.

idk, kinda demotivates me completely.

[Mistyx]

tbh

i'm in an awkward position where i dont know what decision to make right now

and dont have the motivation to reread

but nothing new is happening

so it's just

stuck

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s demotivating because i’m town and you continue pressing the point that i’m not instead of looking at the obvscum standing right beside you.
I’ve cased Pine properly and the response is: "I disagree with your hard facts, also you are toxic.". I have no problems with Pine disagreeing with my logic since it’s in his wincon to discredit a push on him. But i do find the continued focus on language rather tiring as it is irrelevant to my case and serves mainly as a distraction. Whether he intends to or not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

tbh

i'm in an awkward position where i dont know what decision to make right now

and dont have the motivation to reread

but nothing new is happening

so it's just

stuck

And what are you going to do about it?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I suggest you read my case again. You’ll find it in my ISO.
Post 3575

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m leaving for the night.
Misty if you need hand holding through qhat core pounts make Pine scum just ask me for it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What core points*

[Pine]

Mistyx, Jingle is asking for your logic ruling out Ramcius/Shea.

We don’t disagree, but he’s looking for pieces to the puzzle.

[Pine]

Nancy, are you available this evening? I’d like a back and forth with you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I find this robbery analogy strange.
FL, your read on me was never strong. You called me out as possible scum, i fight back. You increase your intensity in calling me scum, i fight back harder. You then call me out as the most obvious scum that has ever existed, i fight back and post an legitimate case on Pine but you are so blinded by your read on me that you no longer see the forest for the trees.

I do not recall a single strong argument from you in favour of why i scum that justifies the intensity of your amscumread. And it is only by my knowledge of your character that i consider this extreme tunnel and extreme anger at an unkillable town slot you read as scum, to be potentially town indicative for you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This game is quite easy to understand from my POV.
FL becomes infatuated with my slot. Scum!Pine and scum!Ramcius jump on my wagon. Nobody of the actual town joins in the push. FL goes mad and assumes scum are defending me, he looks at TSQ. But in reality both scum have always been on my wagon and FL has been played like a fiddle by Pine.