TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have never seen someone claim to be so sure of a scumread, but voting someone else that is just a likely partner if i am scum (which is not even proved).
This is one of those false stances scum take that they think town does.

[Pine]

I have never seen someone claim to be so sure of a scumread, but voting someone else that is just a likely partner if i am scum (which is not even proved).
This is one of those false stances scum take that they think town does.

I'm voting Shea for strategic reasons, so I can make best use of my power. Further, I fully expect to have this game locked up on his scumflip.

I am also quite nearly as sure of him as I am of you. You're just louder, and that makes him more dangerous.

Plus him being a far better player, and likelier to be successful in endgame.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And if TSQ is town?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Like I said, I can't really get down and dirty right now, I'm on my phone while chopping vegetables for salad.

I'm looking for a productive back-and-forth.

I can’t guarantee when I’ll be online. It’s the same reason I don’t play in marathons. I signed up for one and slept through it. When I woke up it was over.

But just make all your points as I said and I’ll do my best to respond to them.

[Mistyx]

Mistyx, Jingle is asking for your logic ruling out Ramcius/Shea.

We don’t disagree, but he’s looking for pieces to the puzzle.

if ram is scum here and you're town pushing his scum partner is strongly -ev

[Mistyx]

I’m leaving for the night.
Misty if you need hand holding through qhat core pounts make Pine scum just ask me for it.

Please don’t speak to Misty like that, it’s really not helpful. :roll:

it's fine i didn't read it as condescending

norwee once you get a chance can you put your case that

isn't

based in setup spec in one post?

[Mistyx]

We aren't voting you out.

We're voting Shea out. He's the actual threat.

...what

[Thestatusquo]

Pine is caught scum and he's making the arguments he has to make. Shrug.

[Mistyx]

VOTE: pine

w/e

i'm done deliberating with myself in circles

if this loses the game so be it at least its better than losing by inaction

[Mistyx]

norwee/tsq is the only world without pine that i can really see

i guess it could be fl/ram?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, are you available this evening? I’d like a back and forth with you.

Sure, lay it on me.

I need to go make dinner then change phases in my LSG, I'll probably be available full time in 2-3 hours. You here then?

Apparently that didn’t happen anyway.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Votecount 3.10

Pine(3)

~ NorwegianboyEE(282), thestatusquo(79), Akarin(84)

thestatusquo(2)

~ Pine(96), Ramcius(111)

Ramcius(1)

~ Mistyx(95)

NorwegianboyEE(1)

~ Flavor Leaf(362)


Not Voting (1): Nancy Drew 39(274)


With 8 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-24 12:25:00)

Mod Notes

• See the post above.

So he’s at E -1 rn? @Misty, @Akarin, should I hammer?

Where did Ram go?

[Akarin]

It's up to you, Nancy.

I haven't had the time to go back and do the rereading that I want to do, but I'm also just kind of sick of it.

I asked my team and Dunn and Adorable haven't read but Midway agrees that Pine seemed way overstating his case and arguing more than was warranted re: the JOAT thing.

I'm having trouble seeing how Pine could possibly be town honestly, the Strongman shot being used on Ico is really what gets me, I don't think that's very plausible. Also Pine's approach to today. Also his desire to claim last when so many PRs were already outed, he wasn't likely to catch scum in a lie by deferring the claim.

But I haven't gone back to look at D1 team stuff like I said I would.

I guess I don't care, so go ahead, but also I don't care enough to pressure you into it if you're not feeling it?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Okay thanks, I’ll ask my team but I just see this game never ending if I don’t. I thought last game had ungated but if that’s wrong, then it’s probably not true. I agree with you that based off of molla flip and FL claim, I don’t see any reason why DEB used strongman on Ico.

I’ll re-ISO him to see if a strongman makes sense or not. Iirc, there was an ungated scum roleblocker in the last setup but those role pms are a helluva lot more confusing then the ones in this game. FL’s arguments wrt your opinions really don’t make sense but that in itself is NAI.

[Flavor Leaf]

i feel like i can't be any more clear with why, if you can't see it, dont know what else to do at this point.

Honestly, Nancy, this happened all throughout FL vs Hectic where you couldnt comprehend like any of my scum cases and defended all of my pushes, but i just was right that game too.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Okay, I couldn’t find anything in Ico’s ISO to suggest any kind of PR soft. He was strongly tr Norwee but especially Shea and was hard gunning for Pine. If Pine is scum jk or rb, jking/rbing would make sense if he was concerned about being targeted by him, so I think the motivation to jk/rb Ico > me is questionable because it makes far more sense for Pine to want to block Ico than protect him. It’s actually possible that Ico was rb’d to stop him for targeting Pine and DEB is strongman but not strongwilled, so an Ico rb from scum!Pine could actually make sense from scum!Pine in addition with strongman DEB killing him. Then there’s the weird Jingle take on the molla kill.

Fact is that neither Norwee and especially Shea had much reason to kill Ico because he was 100% going to push Pine where I was probably viewed as more pocketable so FL saying that he was coming after Norwee didn’t seem likely with a TGP green flip and Shea wasn’t even on his radar.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i feel like i can't be any more clear with why, if you can't see it, dont know what else to do at this point.

Honestly, Nancy, this happened all throughout FL vs Hectic where you couldnt comprehend like any of my scum cases and defended all of my pushes, but i just was right that game too.

None of that shit is remotely persuasive here, so I honestly don’t know why you keep pushing this. You are also not confitown here, so you either give me a logical hard case that contradicts the converse or don’t waste your time.

[Nancy Drew 39]

FL & Pine: You guys are thinking incorrectly. Full stop. This has been the main crux of their arguments which is just infuriating because it tells me absolutely nothing.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Intent to hammer.

My team thinks it’s Pine/FL.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Intent to hammer.

My team thinks it’s Pine/FL.

I think it can be Ramcius. But if it’s not then it can only really be FL.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your team is wrong, Nancy, and FADE FUCKING NORWEGIAN TOMORROW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your team is wrong, Nancy, and FADE FUCKING NORWEGIAN TOMORROW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

If Pine flips scum too?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Intent to hammer.

My team thinks it’s Pine/FL.

I think it can be Ramcius. But if it’s not then it can only really be FL.

And it’s my entire team. They are actually more confident on scum!FL than scum!Pine. But yeah, that is their solve: FL/Pine.

Ico was only going to push you today if TGP flipped scum. He was 100% gunning for Pine. Shea wasn’t even on his radar. So I don’t understand why Ico kill points to anyone else.

Assuming Ram is town, that would have looked bad for you but Ico makes the least sense if you’re scum here and I think the switch to Shea is likely because they think he’s an easier elim than you for some reason.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Your team is wrong, Nancy, and FADE FUCKING NORWEGIAN TOMORROW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

Ico was only coming after Norwee if TGP flipped scum. Yes he hammered him but Math thought his last post was scummy. He was trying hard to stop TGP wagon.

And if Pine flips scum, do you think there’s a world where we have a Pine/Norwee team?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Oka made the same argument Ram and I did about leashing him on Misty but he has adamantly refused to do that.