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Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:27 pm

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In post 10, Firebringer wrote:Its time to get real,

I am going to take you all down in that ring. There aint gonna be a need for a second round, I can beat you all with one hand tied behind my back at the same time! You fools don't know the first thing about the martial arts.

points at Dunnstral

Hey you, punk. Think you are tough enough to take on the peoples champion?!?! Or you going to cower and go home to mommy instead of me wiping the floor of this arena with your butt.

gestures at superbowl9

I bet this guy thinks he is hot stuff. But he has never had to face a real challenger like me! I can lift a hundred scrawny hims with one finger.


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and who invited this clown to this tournament? I thought this was a martial arts tournament, not a weakest human show. Can you even throw a punch pal?

This is gonna be a short tournament and I hope you all don't blink cause you might just miss the whole thing.

VOTE: Battle Mage
Awesome.

I think this game is fascinating (great game unwnd!) so I apologize to Fire for taking you out so fast, but never in my mafia career will I miss a chance to do this:

VOTE: Firebringer
swarm:Firebringer

swarm:Firebringer
(using "Talented" perk)

And that's one challenge target for today, as far as I'm aware.

For the next one I'm thinking we get Oil Tycoons, mostly because they voted for me. It might be interesting to put one of superbowl or Battle Mage though.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 36, Guillotina wrote:Your name rings a bell.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:33 pm

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In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have BM, Bell, Guillotina, and kookiemonster as town rn
VOTE: Dunnstral
I wanna push this for that FB vote on the first page, what was up with the fake multi-vote crap?
I was just messing with fire.

VOTE: Guillotina
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Post Post #104 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:28 pm

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In post 102, Oil Tycoons wrote:
In post 72, Guillotina wrote:
In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have BM, Bell, Guillotina, and kookiemonster as town rn
VOTE: Dunnstral
I wanna push this for that FB vote on the first page, what was up with the fake multi-vote crap?
That is a lot of townreads in three hours.

Why do you have me as town?
How many townreads did you have around this point? How many do you think is reasonable?
I think asking why other people have you as town is a common scum tell
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Post Post #107 (isolation #4) » Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:38 pm

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In post 106, Bell wrote:
In post 104, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 102, Oil Tycoons wrote:
In post 72, Guillotina wrote:
In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have BM, Bell, Guillotina, and kookiemonster as town rn
VOTE: Dunnstral
I wanna push this for that FB vote on the first page, what was up with the fake multi-vote crap?
That is a lot of townreads in three hours.

Why do you have me as town?
How many townreads did you have around this point? How many do you think is reasonable?
I think asking why other people have you as town is a common scum tell
I do this all the time as town tho.
classic scum mistake
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Post Post #421 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:18 pm

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In post 417, Flea The Magician wrote:
Spoiler: How I feel BMs case on me looks like - The spoiler contains exaggeration and misrepresentation used to show how I am feeling.
In post 348, Flea The Magician wrote:What you're dropping now is serious AtE and nothing more than a flail. Take the vote off yourself, you think Mr Satan would pull that crap?
In post 376, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: flea

no point self-voting really, we get 2 votes
BM:
Oh noes! My AtE didn't work! Better try and do something else!
VOTE: Flea The Magician
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Post Post #422 (isolation #6) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:19 pm

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In post 113, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 90, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have BM, Bell, Guillotina, and kookiemonster as town rn
VOTE: Dunnstral
I wanna push this for that FB vote on the first page, what was up with the fake multi-vote crap?
I was just messing with fire.

VOTE: Guillotina
Targeted trolling, okay.
Why Guillotina?
I explained shortly after;

The asking about reads on self comes from scum a good percentage of the time
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Post Post #423 (isolation #7) » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:20 pm

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Actually:

VOTE: Battle Mage

after having read into it more
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Post Post #446 (isolation #8) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:30 am

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In post 432, Firebringer wrote:Dunnstral would you like to be masons with me?
Go for it
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Post Post #447 (isolation #9) » Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:31 am

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In post 355, Firebringer wrote:anyone else find when people say "my dude" its really cringe
Yeah... yeah!!!
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Post Post #730 (isolation #10) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:17 pm

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In post 472, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 433, Titus wrote:
In post 427, kookiemonster wrote:Nvm, dunno why I thought you were voting BM. What makes you think flea and BM are town
Just the intensity, depth, and pointlessness of the wall fight. Tbh I skimmed that noise.
you skimmed yet you're calling TvT? uhh...*shrug* fair.
In post 448, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 421, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 417, Flea The Magician wrote:
Spoiler: How I feel BMs case on me looks like - The spoiler contains exaggeration and misrepresentation used to show how I am feeling.
In post 348, Flea The Magician wrote:What you're dropping now is serious AtE and nothing more than a flail. Take the vote off yourself, you think Mr Satan would pull that crap?
In post 376, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: flea

no point self-voting really, we get 2 votes
BM:
Oh noes! My AtE didn't work! Better try and do something else!
VOTE: Flea The Magician
Also you activated my trap card!
OK now to spring it. Dunn whats the reason for your vote here? Why this post?
I changed my mind after reading the rest of the interaction.

Your post looks like complaining about another player in a scummy way
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Post Post #732 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:24 pm

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Hi fire

Doing good
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Post Post #946 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:29 am

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I think votes on oil tycoons as of right now are boring votes, if not a little scummy
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Post Post #1605 (isolation #13) » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:25 pm

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In post 1353, mastina wrote:Sure, but Dunn this game isn't lurker-Dunn. Dunn is less active than like 10 players this game but he's not lurking. Do an iso of him and that's apparent enough.
I mean, I am lurking, but the notion that me lurking means I'm scum is incorrect
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Post Post #1608 (isolation #14) » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:15 am

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How is this differant than the pooky vs fl treestump game?
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Post Post #1799 (isolation #15) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:27 pm

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In post 1609, Bell wrote:Huh, that post sort of recontextualized some thoughts related to my differing perspective. It could just be that because I'm town and I don't know her alignment she comes off differently.

Still, *points directly to 1606* The differences as I see them are in the paragraph. If you disagree with my comparison or the statements made, say so.
I hadn't taken a good look at her when I said that. I do think the strength she's giving to a read on me is weird here, but not out of her town range

Honestly I didn't really look at her analysis in the fl vs pooky game either, I just saw that she was town off posting.
In post 1665, Oil Tycoons wrote:
In post 1661, mastina wrote:Dunnstral I quite liked as town, his thoughts were good, his content was good, but the drop in content is incredibly worrying.
Noraa has hydra slipped as much as Dunnstral has posted. What makes you think town?

VOTE: Dunnstral

I don't like the superbowl option mostly because I don't like voting for people who've been V/LA for the entire game Day. Has more than 3x Dunnstral's post count even with that.
If the point of the game was to find the player who posted the least, this would be a good post. It's not, so it isn't. Just saying I have a low post count doesn't justify your vote at this point in the game.
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #16) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:29 pm

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And it's ironic too because I defended you while you were doing nothing and people were voting you for that
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Post Post #1801 (isolation #17) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:30 pm

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For the people still talking about my swarm post, for which I already said I was messing with firebringer: viewtopic.php?p=10788770&sid=7ddab2370b ... #p10788770
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Post Post #1802 (isolation #18) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:35 pm

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In post 1618, Titus wrote:Dunn, would the game improve if you were conftown?
In post 1628, Titus wrote:VOTE: Dunn
In post 1633, Titus wrote:Why is it that all the people who haven't obvtowned have personal troubles? Not shading but it leaves us nowhere to vote.
Not sure what this was.

To answer your question, I'd feel obligated to lead if I were confirmed town

Third quote seems to be a site phenomenon recently. It also doesn't lead to confidence in your vote
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Post Post #1803 (isolation #19) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:37 pm

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In post 1661, mastina wrote:Dunnstral I quite liked as town, his thoughts were good, his content was good, but the drop in content is incredibly worrying.
This read feels pretty fake

Right now I'm thinking Bell, Flea, Fire town

VOTE: Mastina
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #20) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:43 pm

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In post 1658, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1648, Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 1623, Guillotina wrote:Nero has been pushing SB as scum and you guys nominated Gamma to go to the arena.
Aye he did, it was lost in the flurry of posts that I didn't respond to. The way SB positioned himself against us was shady as hell.

To answer your question though, the world of WIFOM. considering the fact that the votes don't lead to lynches right away we could be wrong in one of our pushes and
you could still be scum with our other pick.
Is it possible? Yes.
Is it probable? No.

Why would I push a scum buddy since early Day 1, drag him all the way to nomination phase and throw him into the arena, when I could easily do something else and avoid losing a partner? What you are implying here is that in your world, I'm scum playing against my wincon. I don't game-throw. (Ok... I have, Nero and Gamma know the story but I was arrogant and thought that FPSing would help town get the win but I promised I'd never FPS again until i knew the community more).
If you look into my ISO you will see that I picked up Gamma and Superbowl since early in the game and they instead of towning up, they have been performing unremarkably in relation to their town-play from other games.

I understand that SB is V/LA but the times he has posted here, he's posted scummy-fluffy shit. I honestly don't understand why Kookies townread him besides not wanting to do so because they have run him up in other games where he flipped town, if they got rid of that guilt and objectively read his posts and the intention behind those posts, they'd be voting him now. So I think that the reason the hydra is not voting is because I'm voting him and they dont wanna vote with me.
The question is how about everyone else? What are they seeing that I'm not?

It's not like I'm tunneling them either. I scum read Mastina slot (previously occupied by MWNN) and she came in all aggro on me and we thunderdomed and ever since, she's been towning up IMO. I'm aware that I'm new on this site and that she is a legendary player here and she could fool me, but I don't think that's the case here. Her posts are well elaborated (besides the piece of shit read-list part) and explained her points that from my opinion come from a town mindset (she is hesitant but so are we, otherwise there would be two players in the arena already). Bell says it cannot, I'm sure he knows Mastina more than I do, but skeptical me will only believe in my gut for now so I townread her. She and I also mindmeld on not being able to sort FB and scum reading SB, not to mention that she got Noraa (along with BlackMage) off my back for a bit allowing me to breath and enjoy the game with the limited time I have to play it, if she is scum, I'm hard pocketed.

I scum read Bell for something I interpreted as a pocket/buddy up attempt on Noraa and tunneled him for that for a while, but his interactions with others and the way he drives the thread does not feel it is ill intended. He scum hunts, asks informative questions and assists me in reading others while does not pressure me into town reading his town reads which I appreciate.

And then there are you guys. I scum read you too, partly because Nero didn't seem to be playing a town game the way I saw them play on L230, mainly the aggressive scumhunting part that I know him for, he pointed out that he indeed has, I admitted that I was wrong and backed off, but not to the point to call you town, you are still at the bottom but not the bottom where you are in danger of getting nominated to clash against Gamma in the arena.

If I had to decide now who goes against Gamma, it would be VOTE: Superbowl and unless something happens that motivates me to change my mind, I think I will park it.

Good night.
How is gamma playing different from town games?
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Post Post #1808 (isolation #21) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:39 am

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In post 1807, Flea The Magician wrote:Honestly at this point there's no reason for people to not vote fire.

If you think he's town and gammas scum, put him in the arena.
This is not a good mindset to have, especially when he can actually lose to gamma. Also, I'm not sure on gamma
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Post Post #1911 (isolation #22) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:06 pm

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In post 1799, Dunnstral wrote:Honestly I didn't really look at her analysis in the fl vs pooky game either
Because she's bad, to clarify
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Post Post #1921 (isolation #23) » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:04 pm

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Also you're on the wrong track Fire

I'm not scummy for thinking you are town
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #24) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:40 pm

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Mafia weren't afraid of a doctor, and a doctor didn't target mastina

Also their role is backup, but backup for what.
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Post Post #1932 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:21 pm

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In post 1931, Bell wrote:This is problematic.
What is?
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #26) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:02 pm

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In post 1933, Bell wrote:Is an area of effect mass cancelation ability like that, that does not stop the scum team from performing a night kill a scum role or a town role usually?
What are you talking about?

Sounds like a scum role though, like usually scum power roles just counter town power roles, and town roles are much more powerful
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #27) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:03 pm

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In post 1923, Perfect Cell wrote:All actives have been temporarily disabled for tonight!
oh, I missed this. This makes sense. Yeah this seems scum
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #28) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:36 pm

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How did I fit into setup spec given I never claimed my role?
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #29) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:36 pm

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In post 1949, Bell wrote:
In post 1940, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1933, Bell wrote:Is an area of effect mass cancelation ability like that, that does not stop the scum team from performing a night kill a scum role or a town role usually?
What are you talking about?

Sounds like a scum role though, like usually scum power roles just counter town power roles, and town roles are much more powerful
In post 1942, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1923, Perfect Cell wrote:All actives have been temporarily disabled for tonight!
oh, I missed this. This makes sense. Yeah this seems scum
Sigh. Wifom.
This explains a lot for me actually
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:38 pm

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In post 1945, superbowl9 wrote:Who's scum to you right now dunn?
I'm not really sure

Even though I voted for mastina yesterday I kind of wish Titus didn't just, instantly shoot there like that.

Also, why did everybody sheep me? Bm was the counter, right? Was Mastina being suspected?
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #31) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:06 pm

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In post 1955, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1929, Dunnstral wrote:Mafia weren't afraid of a doctor, and a doctor didn't target mastina

Also their role is backup, but backup for what.
Back ups always inherit the first role that goes down.
That's universal backup

Which the flip may have been
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #32) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:16 pm

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In post 1963, Guillotina wrote:Mastina scum read you and I agree. Now she is dead! A little convenient don't you think?
Mastina dying seems unrelated to her read on superbowl, no?
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Post Post #1971 (isolation #33) » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:17 pm

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In post 1967, Sugar Cain wrote:Also, wtf are there specs on whether titus's role is town or scum? Titus is dead.
Titus' role isn't what disabled actions for the night... is it? I don't think she ever claimed it
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #34) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:45 am

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I'm not a fan of the theory
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #35) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:50 pm

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In post 1998, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1971, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1967, Sugar Cain wrote:Also, wtf are there specs on whether titus's role is town or scum? Titus is dead.
Titus' role isn't what disabled actions for the night... is it? I don't think she ever claimed it
No i am pretty sure it was someone else.

Btw dunny we need to have a talk on why u townread me
Do we?

I looked over your posts and thought you looked town
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #36) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:52 pm

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In post 2000, Finral wrote:mastina (5): Bell, Dunnstral, Oil Tycoons, superbowl9, Battle Mage
This was me coming in with 14 hours left or something and placing down a vote, following bell and also mastina looked to be making stuff up on their read on me

I still don't know why the rest followed onto mastina
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Post Post #2099 (isolation #37) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:53 pm

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In post 1699, Perfect Cell wrote:
with 13 alive it takes 7 to nominate. Nomination Phase 2 ends in (expired on 2021-01-11 22:25:25).


Combatants
Dunnstral (2): Titus, Oil Tycoons
mastina (1): Bell
Battle Mage (1): Flea The Magician
Oil Tycoons (0):
Bell (0):
Superbowl9 (1): mastina
Firebringer (1): Sugar Cain
kookiemonster (0):
Titus (0):
Flea The Magician (0):
Sugar Cain (0):
Guillotina (1): Firebringer


Not Voting (0):


Superbowl is V/LA from January 5th to January 10th.


Spoiler: Nominated
1. Gamma Emerald
Also this was the vote count I saw when I made my vote
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Post Post #2706 (isolation #38) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:19 pm

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They are at best a survivor and at worst scum

Either way, it's very unlikely that they can roleblock everybody a second time, power wise

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Post Post #2707 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:19 pm

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They are at best a survivor and at worst scum

Either way, it's very unlikely that they can roleblock everybody a second time, power wise

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Post Post #2708 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:19 pm

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They are at best a survivor and at worst scum

Either way, it's very unlikely that they can roleblock everybody a second time, power wise

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Post Post #2752 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:08 pm

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If the claim is truthful enhancing everything is a bigger boost for town than scum
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Post Post #2754 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:16 pm

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Why are we placing flea in the arena?
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:28 pm

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Is this another role that kills themself and ends the day?

Why do we have two of those and then also a universal backup in the same game? Like that's asking for trouble
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Post Post #2760 (isolation #44) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:34 pm

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a double elimination doesn't help us, we're on odds right now
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Post Post #2762 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:55 pm

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if they're scum they can be lying about how their role works

if they're town we're better off eliminating the other person instead of going 2 for 1
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Post Post #2764 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:23 pm

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ok
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Post Post #2989 (isolation #47) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:57 pm

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In post 2986, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 2981, Oil Tycoons wrote:Superbowl coming out of the woodwork to hunt for third parties is most definitely +scum. The most passionate argument he's presented is that we're scumsiding and as a result we need to die immediately, but the complete lack of any scumhunting that looks like that outside of his push on third party doesn't look great.
??? I've been on Flea the whole damn game, you scumclained, and they started hard defending you. Your language "that
we're
scumsiding" implies that I'm right on the money though
He's not town. It's in their best interest to cast shade on you because you're trying to eliminate them
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Post Post #2990 (isolation #48) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 2951, Flea The Magician wrote:N1: I protect Bell N3.
N2: I protect Kookie Tonight
N3: I time jump to D5. (Bell is protected from N1 action).
N4: --no action--
So what was that other claim earlier about blowing up?
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Post Post #2991 (isolation #49) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:00 pm

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For the people who are voting Flea right now, are you actually going to vote to eliminate Flea, or are you voting for Oil Tycoons?

We can't discuss when this gets locked in, right?
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Post Post #2993 (isolation #50) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:28 pm

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Can we not go one game without everyone outting their role on day 2?
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Post Post #2994 (isolation #51) » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:29 pm

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So we're copping flea, OK.

I'm fine with this. I think Flea is town and that we'll end up eliminating oil tycoons.

Are we wanting me to hammer or are we still discussing things?
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Post Post #3006 (isolation #52) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:16 am

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HURT WITH A BLADE: Oil Tycoons
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Post Post #3025 (isolation #53) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:33 pm

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Hi here's the timeline:

Day 1 Titus desperado's Mastina; Titus dies, Mastina is confirmed town

End of Day 1 all passive abilities the following night are disabled (this was the work of the third party survivor who is now elimated). Mastina dies.

Day 2, Flea claims an explosion ability, Bell claims a daycop ability (?). Bell supposedly checks Flea and gets an inno, Flea then retracts the claim right before Fire swoops in and hammers and we canno longer discuss it.

Night 2, it looks like Flea was protected with a weird ability. Finral dies, and was being pushed by certain people. No flip but it can be assumed he was town; flea isn't dead, check first post
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Post Post #3026 (isolation #54) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:34 pm

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In post 3024, Bell wrote:Hey guys.

I have a heart virus, I'm dying at the end of the day phase.
Is this part of your role or somebody else's ability?
In post 3023, MathBlade wrote:Dunnstral you were on Battle Mage for a while then not since: What changed?
I got more involved with the game and was always so-so on Battle Mage
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Post Post #3027 (isolation #55) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:35 pm

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Finral's slot was also voted into the pairing day 1.

Nothing came of it because Titus' used her ability
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Post Post #3029 (isolation #56) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:37 pm

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Careful with the votes today. Flea probably comes back, but if bell dies we can potentially lose on a miselim today
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Post Post #3030 (isolation #57) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:38 pm

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In post 3028, Bell wrote:That summary is sufficient imo.

Does anyone have any pills to cure my heart virus, like, say trunks.

...Shit.

It's not part of my role, no. Somebody intentionally poisoned me.
OK so

Setup-wise I don't think there's 3 scum + a survivor + scum can poison townies

That would be wacky

So if this is a scum ability, it's probably a scum team of 2
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Post Post #3034 (isolation #58) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:44 pm

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Finral is dead

Flea is somewhere else
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Post Post #3036 (isolation #59) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:45 pm

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In post 3033, Bell wrote:Since it was a 1 shot ability I feel pretty comfortable sharing that my ability was one that checked for the presence of a neighborhood.
Neither tested positive it could only be done during the elimination phase on two players.

I figured it was a good idea to check because I wasn't sure how that was going to go.

Should we be mass claiming?
or one more day phase?
This would have been much better to use without the survivor in the pair?

Not your fault, really, you could have paired that with Titus
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Post Post #3037 (isolation #60) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:46 pm

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In post 0, Perfect Cell wrote:
Welcome one and all to..

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The 2189th Cell Games


Spoiler:
Combatants

Dunnstral
ManWithNoName
mastina
Battle Mage
Oil Tycoons (Syryana and Nachomamma8)
Gamma Emerald
Bell
Superbowl9
Firebringer
kookiemonster (JohnnyFarrar and Noraa)
Flea The Magician
Sugar Cain (Momrangal and Nero Cain)
MathBlade
Guillotina


Alive

Dunnstral
Battle Mage
Bell
Superbowl9
Firebringer
kookiemonster (JohnnyFarrar and Noraa)
Flea The Magician
Sugar Cain (Momrangal and Nero Cain)
MathBlade
Guillotina

Dead

mastina -
Teen Gohan, Fighter Backup
. (Killed Night 1)
Titus -
Vegeta, Fighter Super-elite
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(Self-destructed Day 1)
Oil Tycoons -
Jimmy Firecracker, Normal Human Announcer
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(Lost Day 2)
Finral
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Was ???
(Went away Night 2)
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Post Post #3043 (isolation #61) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:51 pm

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The vote not present is the mod team not writing down players who haven't voted yet in a current phase
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Post Post #3069 (isolation #62) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:40 pm

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In post 3068, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3067, Bell wrote:Did you lie to me about being role blocked?
No, i was roleblocked but the player i intended to visit sounds and looks bad.
Sounds like you should claim
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Post Post #3074 (isolation #63) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:46 pm

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Now Guillotina claims
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Post Post #3079 (isolation #64) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:49 pm

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How would you know you were roleblocked if that's your role?
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Post Post #3084 (isolation #65) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:52 pm

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In post 3081, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3079, Dunnstral wrote:How would you know you were roleblocked if that's your role?
Because the host told me i couldnt send my ability.
Why would the host tell you that?

And are you sure it's not because of something happening to Finral?
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Post Post #3085 (isolation #66) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:52 pm

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Is it possible that you visited Finral but weren't able to send your ability, so kept it (but still went somewhere)
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Post Post #3100 (isolation #67) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:40 pm

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In post 3094, Bell wrote:ngl, I can see myself fucking up here @Dunnstral.
I thought I was being fairly through, but, nope. There's still more to learn.

Behaviorally, there are some warning flags here. Which compensates some, but I could still see there just being some confusion and me not looking for the right information.

Anyway, good night. Sorry for agitating you guilotina.
There's potential for Guillotina to be misunderstand what happened to them

I think it's weird that they are told that their action is failing
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Post Post #3108 (isolation #68) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:50 pm

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In post 3103, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 3030, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3028, Bell wrote:That summary is sufficient imo.

Does anyone have any pills to cure my heart virus, like, say trunks.

...Shit.

It's not part of my role, no. Somebody intentionally poisoned me.
OK so

Setup-wise I don't think there's 3 scum + a survivor + scum can poison townies

That would be wacky

So if this is a scum ability, it's probably a scum team of 2
Could be 3P that killed Flavor no?
Multiple third parties?

I don't think so
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Post Post #3110 (isolation #69) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:51 pm

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In post 3106, superbowl9 wrote:So Flavor and I were right with our solve then - Oil/Flea/Guillo
In post 3107, Battle Mage wrote:Looks like Flea is scum, and possibly responsible for Finral leaving the game.
Also no, flea isn't scum because they're not in a pt.
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Post Post #3111 (isolation #70) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:51 pm

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In post 3109, Battle Mage wrote:Guillotina-scum, definitely makes me think Dunnstral-scum too
explain
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Post Post #3113 (isolation #71) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:09 pm

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In post 3033, Bell wrote:Since it was a 1 shot ability I feel pretty comfortable sharing that my ability was one that checked for the presence of a neighborhood.
Neither tested positive it could only be done during the elimination phase on two players.

I figured it was a good idea to check because I wasn't sure how that was going to go.

Should we be mass claiming?
or one more day phase?
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Post Post #3114 (isolation #72) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:09 pm

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I assume this means any kind of private topic and he misspoke with neighborhood
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Post Post #3116 (isolation #73) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:15 pm

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If you're going with Guillo-scum then by necessity you need to be thinking Bell is telling the truth
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Post Post #3183 (isolation #74) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:18 pm

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In post 3128, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3100, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3094, Bell wrote:ngl, I can see myself fucking up here @Dunnstral.
I thought I was being fairly through, but, nope. There's still more to learn.

Behaviorally, there are some warning flags here. Which compensates some, but I could still see there just being some confusion and me not looking for the right information.

Anyway, good night. Sorry for agitating you guilotina.
There's potential for Guillotina to be misunderstand what happened to them

I think it's weird that they are told that their action is failing
It’s crap spewed to try to stay alive Dunn. Why are you assuming they are telling the truth?
I'm saying that it's not impossible for them to be town if they're misunderstanding their own role and something weird happened with Finral

They're probably still the elim
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Post Post #3214 (isolation #75) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:20 pm

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How does that help us?
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Post Post #3215 (isolation #76) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:22 pm

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In post 3208, Bell wrote:Guillotina is at E-1 btw.
This is the arena vote

VOTE: Guillotina
In post 3188, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 3183, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3128, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3100, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3094, Bell wrote:ngl, I can see myself fucking up here @Dunnstral.
I thought I was being fairly through, but, nope. There's still more to learn.

Behaviorally, there are some warning flags here. Which compensates some, but I could still see there just being some confusion and me not looking for the right information.

Anyway, good night. Sorry for agitating you guilotina.
There's potential for Guillotina to be misunderstand what happened to them

I think it's weird that they are told that their action is failing
It’s crap spewed to try to stay alive Dunn. Why are you assuming they are telling the truth?
I'm saying that it's not impossible for them to be town if they're misunderstanding their own role and something weird happened with Finral

They're probably still the elim
I know you've been bad with setup spec but this is another level dude. He literally lied about where he went and is CCed by the towniest person alive. There's no universe this isn't caught scum, especially with how it came out/that reaction
We don't know if they lied about where he went, that wasn't a point of contention

They claim to have targeted Finral and we're not 100% on what happened to Finral.
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Post Post #3250 (isolation #77) » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:57 pm

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Let's put in bell who is dying anyway just in case there's a scum role that interacts with whoever is in the arena

We will be voting out guillotina though

VOTE: Bell
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Post Post #3269 (isolation #78) » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:04 pm

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In post 3265, Bell wrote:I'm fine with going into the arena with Guilotina.

Though there could be a scum ability that could put us at a disadvantage.
I think there's a greater chance of us being at a disadvantage if we send town who will be alive tomorrow

That's my reasoning
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #79) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:28 pm

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In post 3295, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3269, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3265, Bell wrote:I'm fine with going into the arena with Guilotina.

Though there could be a scum ability that could put us at a disadvantage.
I think there's a greater chance of us being at a disadvantage if we send town who will be alive tomorrow

That's my reasoning
This reasoning is suspicious unless you think someone would vote outside of G. Do you really think that happens? In what world does someone vote for someone over G?
That's not my reasoning. I'm talking about scum powers
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Post Post #3312 (isolation #80) » Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:03 pm

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I don't know.

Bell, I don't get what you're saying. I thought you said you died at the end of the day?

I don't imagine you'd die earlier, and even if you did would that really just end the day?
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Post Post #3342 (isolation #81) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:37 pm

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In post 3333, Guillotina wrote:Are you guys sure you scum read Dunnstral to send him with me? I will hammer if so but if i do, there is no going back.
You realize you're the one being elimmed, right?
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Post Post #3360 (isolation #82) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:41 pm

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Also nobody has listed a single reason for me being scum, so that ought to tip you off.

Guillotina, did you lie about your role or what? What are you implying
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Post Post #3372 (isolation #83) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:04 pm

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Figuring me out across games is something that is very doable. In this game, maybe not so much, though I'm not sure why I'm being considered in the first place

I need to know if Guillotina lied about their role for some reason. This is the whole reason we are voting them
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Post Post #3380 (isolation #84) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:22 pm

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Noraa spams the game like crazy when they're scum
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Post Post #3459 (isolation #85) » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:40 pm

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I can easily see sb9 as scum but I don't care to argue about whether he thought you had a real heart virus or not
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Post Post #3470 (isolation #86) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:55 pm

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There are so many things wrong with this

One being that there's no reason for this to not have come out while everybody could still talk. This is trying to wiggle out of the elim plain and simple, this is what they were doing earlier

Two is that even if they're telling the truth, it's definitely better to yeet all of fire, guillotina, kookie than it is to yeet me.

Three is that random chance roles are generally considered bastard, and this is not a bastard game, so the claim is outright fake

Four is that this survivalism where they don't care to look into fire or kookie or my own alignment feels misplaced
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Post Post #3471 (isolation #87) » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:56 pm

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In post 3464, Guillotina wrote:Do you scum read Dunn? If not, why use the bomb with him?

I honestly don't, but it's him or me. So I trust my fellow townies will choose one flip instead of three.
If you're town and don't scumread me

and bell is dying

and flea is town

there's almost certainly scum in your 3
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Post Post #3486 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:08 pm

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HURT: Guillotina
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Post Post #3495 (isolation #89) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:55 pm

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Today would be a good day for mass claim. Flea should pick the order.
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Post Post #3496 (isolation #90) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:57 pm

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Right now I think there's only one scum left and it's between Gypyx and MathBlade, if I had to take a jab.

Anyone think there's two scum left?
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Post Post #3502 (isolation #91) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:22 pm

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Flea does not have a pt, we know that much. They are very unlikely to be mafia
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Post Post #3509 (isolation #92) » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:29 pm

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???
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Post Post #3516 (isolation #93) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:49 am

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In post 3514, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 3497, Firebringer wrote:i think there is.

i think its gypx and flea
Second the motion but add dunnstrall
It's me and gypyx and flea?
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Post Post #3574 (isolation #94) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:01 pm

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can you just claim so we can move on

I don't agree with the order but it doesn't matter
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Post Post #3597 (isolation #95) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:47 am

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Nobody should vote until after claims
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Post Post #3600 (isolation #96) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:46 am

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Krillin, Vanilla fighter
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Post Post #3631 (isolation #97) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:59 pm

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3 3rd party doesn't make sense to me.
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Post Post #3632 (isolation #98) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:00 pm

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So who has gotten a sensu bean?

Would they not know? Why haven't you won yet?
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Post Post #3635 (isolation #99) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:56 pm

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In post 3634, superbowl9 wrote:My role is pretty much confirmed though because Bell did get my bean and get poisoned
Your bean poisoned him?
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Post Post #3636 (isolation #100) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:57 pm

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In post 3634, superbowl9 wrote:I still think dunn is scum btw
No, you don't.

Because if you did, you'd be playing against wincon by trying to get me out. You'd lose the game.
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Post Post #3640 (isolation #101) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:39 pm

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In post 3638, superbowl9 wrote:And yes my bean poisoned Bell, it wasn't a virus
Why shouldn't we elim you right now?
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Post Post #3641 (isolation #102) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:41 pm

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Alright let me present a different question, it's not actually a good idea to elim you if you're telling the truth because we're on evens right now.

How do you win here? You're relying on us eliminating town today and then you also killing another town at night, and then what?

The game ends on the next elim at that point

Your claimed role/situation means you have no way to win, so I think you're lying
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Post Post #3642 (isolation #103) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:41 pm

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In post 3639, MathBlade wrote:This interaction between Dunn and superbowl is weird. I can’t put my finger on why.

Gonna sleep on it and see. But something isn’t right there.
This is scummy
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Post Post #3643 (isolation #104) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:42 pm

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In post 3459, Dunnstral wrote:I can easily see sb9 as scum but I don't care to argue about whether he thought you had a real heart virus or not
Also ha @bell
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Post Post #3645 (isolation #105) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:39 pm

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my stance is that we don't help superbowl9 win or anything but there's no reason to eliminate him right now

That's if we believe him to not be mafia with someone else

And as mentioned, it's not in his best interest to actually catch scum today (because then he loses the game)
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Post Post #3648 (isolation #106) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:01 am

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In post 3647, Flea The Magician wrote:Honestly, I say we remove the 3P in this situation.
It doesn't help us.

It takes us to 4 alive with you dead.

Eh, maybe.

If we leave him alive and go wrong he has a chance of killing mafia, and maybe the game won't end in just his win

Not Sure I trust him at 3 alive anyway
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Post Post #3665 (isolation #107) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:39 pm

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So why did you scum side with your ability by targeting bell?
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Post Post #3666 (isolation #108) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:40 pm

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In post 3664, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 3660, Gypyx wrote:also bowl, correct me if i'm wrong, but according to how NAR works, you successfully gave your bean to BM right?
Yes but he never received it so it won’t count towards my wincon
They're saying your bean should be sent out before someone dies.

This probably means your role requires you to infect someone
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Post Post #3667 (isolation #109) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:41 pm

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In post 3649, MathBlade wrote:I am literally at if one scum left it’s Flea and scum didn’t have a PT to fool us. That answer from Flea is really self serving if faer is the last scum alive. I don’t see faer making that if SB is faer’s buddy.

At the same time I figured out what pinged me last night. Dunn is really wishy washy on whether to eliminate Super Bowl. I don’t think Dunn defends a not town claim unless he has a buddy.

VOTE: Superbowl9

I figure this is the right play. If two scum alive then we prolly get one. If Superbowl flips 3P then I die and y’all can elim Flea.
If Superbowl is scum it’s probably with Dunn.
if me and superbowl were scum together, he wouldn't be claiming 3rd party right now and we'd instead probably win the game this phase
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Post Post #3670 (isolation #110) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:01 pm

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Mafia team has to have at least 2 people on it

2 mafia 3 3rd party doesn't sound fair
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Post Post #3679 (isolation #111) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:14 pm

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In post 3672, MathBlade wrote:Why are you saying 3 3P Dunnstral?

Iirc you claimed VT and everyone else claimed town? I think Flea claimed town as I searched faer ISO for 3P and only saw this?

Am I dense?
Superbowl is not claiming town.
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Post Post #3682 (isolation #112) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:17 pm

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To be clear, I'm saying there isn't 3 third parties
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Post Post #3701 (isolation #113) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:48 pm

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In post 3683, Firebringer wrote:dunny u think gypx is scum?
I think it's Math
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Post Post #3702 (isolation #114) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:50 pm

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In post 3700, Gypyx wrote:let's consider we wanna give bowl the win, how do we proceed?
no

we're not playing around giving sb the win

If we believe him, then eliminating him doesn't help
us
win

But we can go ahead and eliminate him anyway

I doubt he's the last mafia and he claimed that
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Post Post #3717 (isolation #115) » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:43 pm

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VOTE: Mathblade
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Post Post #3722 (isolation #116) » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:41 pm

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HURT: superbowl9
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Post Post #3736 (isolation #117) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:34 pm

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Mechanically it can only be Math or myself.

fire was in the arena, math voted for me, I voted for math. It was 3 to hammer the second person in. Sb9 would have voted for one of us alongside the other mafia instead of himself.

VOTE: Mathblade

Again, if I were mafia sb9 wouldn't be fake claiming 3rd party there. He wouldn't have even died if he didn't claim that. Math has had an informed perspective by acting like me and sb9 are weird together and saying I sohuldn't trust the claim
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Post Post #3737 (isolation #118) » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:36 pm

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In post 3708, Perfect Cell wrote:
With 6 alive it takes 3 to Nominate. Nomination Phase 1 ends at (expired on 2021-02-13 02:03:15)


Combatants
Dunnstral (1): MathBlade
Superbowl9 (1): Flea The Magician
Gypyx (0):
Flea The Magician: (0):
MathBlade(0):


Not Voting (3): Gypyx, Superbow9, Dunnstral


Spoiler: Nominated
1. Firebringer
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Post Post #3750 (isolation #119) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:17 pm

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:yawn:
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Post Post #3753 (isolation #120) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:58 am

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There is no case in the arena

You make the case now when everybody can still talk
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Post Post #3764 (isolation #121) » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:52 pm

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Why would Goku be a vanilla townie
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Post Post #3771 (isolation #122) » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:32 pm

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The theme of the game is Cell games, not any random episode of dragonball
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Post Post #3787 (isolation #123) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:20 pm

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HURT: MathBlade
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Post Post #3790 (isolation #124) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:07 pm

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deadline please
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Post Post #3800 (isolation #125) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 3799, Perfect Cell wrote:Can I say it was balanced? I'll never really know because the way it played out never had a chance.
Town miselimmed exactly 0 times and still ended up in a mylo situation
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Post Post #3824 (isolation #126) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:43 pm

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In post 3803, unwnd wrote:
In post 3800, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3799, Perfect Cell wrote:Can I say it was balanced? I'll never really know because the way it played out never had a chance.
Town miselimmed exactly 0 times and still ended up in a mylo situation
You have to factor in Titus' shot here, that was two townies down on a misfire. You also could've had the SK whiddle down some scum but that just didn't happen. The elimination process also favors town because you basically have two lims to decide from instead of just one that is immediately hammered.
Factoring that in it's mylo after 1 miselim which is super rough when most games have like, 3 to go through before mylo
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Post Post #3825 (isolation #127) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:44 pm

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In post 3823, unwnd wrote:I loved that you loved your role Firebringer, but it's too bad it never really got a chance to be too heroic.
You guys made me look; isn't he a vt?
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Post Post #3836 (isolation #128) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:52 pm

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In post 3826, unwnd wrote:I don't see where you see this?
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Post Post #3844 (isolation #129) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:00 pm

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In post 3837, unwnd wrote:
In post 3836, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3826, unwnd wrote:I don't see where you see this?
viewtopic.php?p=12471769#p12471769
SK is a survivor (not reflected in OP) so he just wins by surviving.
I meant fire's role being listed as just "vt" and I didn't see it anywhere else
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Post Post #3848 (isolation #130) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:02 pm

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Honestly, scum would have probably won this if sb didn't claim 3rd party and also had they not forced a 1v1 with me by voting me in limlo

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