TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[Pine]

He’s also scolding me for being confrontational about the Towniest thing you’ve suggested all game

[Flavor Leaf]

Mech talk sucks

[Flavor Leaf]

Just fade Norwegian or Pine and end this day

[Flavor Leaf]

If Status is town, Pine is always faded tomorrow, which lets Norwegian/Ram team win.

There’s literally a solution and a risk involved in every single way here.

Just fade the 1v1 and tomorrow gets opened up hella

[Nancy Drew 39]

JJH is spitballing to me right now the best way to go forward if we do a TSQ elimination today.

TSQ mislim, no leashing for protective claims at night with assumption for continued play being worst case scenario of consensus town being killed.
Elim scum!Ram, pine leashed to jailing FL leading to a no kill because scum is surely within pine/fl
Elim Pine and FL in any order
This plan accounts for scum!Ram with either scum!Pine or scum!FL
however, it does rely on scum!Ram and would lose to a Pine/FL scumteam

How can we leash FL onto Akarin if he’s jk’d? Why do you want to elim Shea if you’re convinced he’s town? And based off of your posting, you seem to be suggesting that Misty is the most likely NK not Akarin, correct?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don’t know what’s up with FL here but I definitely think Ram is town and Pine’s plan is protown. I’m not sure if I should vote for Norwee or Shea yet but I have some paranoia that Norwee might actually know his alignment, since he seems to be beyond convinced that She’s flipping town.

FL suddenly wavering on his hard town Pine read, why?

I’m really paranoid that it might actually be FL/Norwee and prior to that I was going to post that it was likely a Norwee/Shea team but now I’m wondering if Math was actually right?

Do you think both scum are in the vanilla claims, or if it's 1 in vanilla and 1 in PR, or if it's both in PR claims?

I think that DEB strongman doesn’t make sense with just molla’s role, so at least on in vts and I really don’t understand the Ram sr. I think he’s really obvious town. I mean it’s possible that this setup doesn’t make a whole lot of sense mech wise but I don’t think Penguin creates just a ridiculous setup.

See Pine jking either you or Shea would clear whomever but I don’t believe scum!Ram says green flip on you/Shea clears the other. Scum doesn’t want clears. That’s a transparently townie thought.

Ok but I made a very similar post day 2 that you said was town so if you think its either me or ram that point is a wash.

You need to link or quote that post because I can’t remember.

Its not quite the same now that I've found the post but this is what I was thinking of, but the logic is roughly the same.

I don’t fully townread Zor, but with that claim they’ve put an target on their back so i’m willing to back off since they will hopefully get resolved at some point anyways.

UNVOTE:

How much time do we have left?

Quoting issue.

We have like nine days. Pump the brakes, crazytrain.

What quoting issue? And there’s only 2 votes on TGP, he’s not getting run up.

Do you have any familiarity with TGP scum meta because I have none.

I think you’re very likely town now which makes me think Shea might be too now. The reason is that he said, if either one of us flips red look at the other. Well I’m obviously not and I don’t think you are either, so why would scum!Shea make that comment about 2 town slots, right? That doesn’t make any sense, so Shea’s probably town for that.

I don’t remember that post of yours I was referring to. Can you link/quote that for me please?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Just fade Norwegian or Pine and end this day

I understand your logic but you’ve been adamantly opposed to Pine being voted all game, so why would you want him flipped?

I also don’t get how you think a Norwee/Ram team makes any sense considering that Norwee wanted Pine’s head and Ram was adamantly opposed to it?

However I don’t understand why Pine and Ram prefer Shea > Norwee?

[Flavor Leaf]

I just need one of them flipped. If I’m wrong with Pine, then find, Norwegian’s town, if I’m right with Norwegian, awesome fade Norwegian.

All the mech talk is really just not important because at the end of the day, scum’s just gonna WIFOM it up.

Id rather just play on play than rely on possible town mechanics

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t understand the Shea over Norwegian thing either, and nobody’s explained why we’re just going for the compromise?

I’m anti compromise wagons. Ramcius also did a weird 180 the second Norwegian 180’d too, which i didn’t like

[Flavor Leaf]

In a possible world, where Status is town, Pine-Norwegian is still the 1v1. I’d think it’s Norwegian/Ramcius in that case, and they’ve been scum theatreing.

In a townPine JK world, as scum, I would probably always no kill if that has anything to do with the mech talk.

I feel people fail to look at the WIFOM/sociological side of things, which I feel is a bigger part of mafia than the technical and mech “logistical thinking” side of things.

[Flavor Leaf]

The whole mech talk is something I use as scum to try to get people to fight me

It’s like playing a slippery tank, if you focus, the carry gonna kill you

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don’t understand the Shea over Norwegian thing either, and nobody’s explained why we’re just going for the compromise?

I’m anti compromise wagons. Ramcius also did a weird 180 the second Norwegian 180’d too, which i didn’t like

It’s kind’ve scaring me that I think you’re town. I also hate compromise wagons. I recall scum trying to convince me in a game that my being opposed to that was antitown.

One thing is very clear, scum are playing one helluva a good game no matter who they are.

[Flavor Leaf]

From the current positions of what I see after reading up (skimmed), I feel like Pine/Norwegian fade opens up the game, Ramcius/Status is the fade scum want to keep the game WIFOM’able

[Nancy Drew 39]

From the current positions of what I see after reading up (skimmed), I feel like Pine/Norwegian fade opens up the game, Ramcius/Status is the fade scum want to keep the game WIFOM’able

Yeah I agree. You’re kind’ve thinking here like the opposite of what Ico did wrt to TGP but the difference is that I think Ico’s reasoning was correct at the time and yours is probably correct now.

What seems weird to me is that it seems that both Norwee and Pine could be pocketing you but they are the one team here that makes absolutely no sense, so at least one of them is probably being sincere.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, the break away (I’m still semi away) was good because when I checked for a little bit yesterday (I’m here but I’m not here, if that makes sense, site wide) made me scum read Norwegian slightly less.

I am in the position where I can tell one of Norwegian-Pine is scum with one of Ramcius-Status.

I’m still leaning Norwegian/Status, but Ramcius made me really nervous with his flip.

I still think that going in the Pine/Norwegian 1v1 is best because it gets rid of JK WIFOM either way

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yeah, the break away (I’m still semi away) was good because when I checked for a little bit yesterday (I’m here but I’m not here, if that makes sense, site wide) made me scum read Norwegian slightly less.

I am in the position where I can tell one of Norwegian-Pine is scum with one of Ramcius-Status.

I’m still leaning Norwegian/Status, but Ramcius made me really nervous with his flip.

I still think that going in the Pine/Norwegian 1v1 is best because it gets rid of JK WIFOM either way

Unless you think that Shea flip is extremely unlikely, then you’d have to logically think Pine is bussing her if he/Shea are a team. But now Norwee agreeing to Shea flip is kind’ve weirding me out because he’s been hard defending him for almost the entire game.

[Thestatusquo]

Norwee and Ramcius make a lot of sense as a team now that I think about it.

But I still just don't believe pines claim and norwee pine does not make sense to me as a team at all.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Norwee and Ramcius make a lot of sense as a team now that I think about it.

But I still just don't believe pines claim and norwee pine does not make sense to me as a team at all.

Yeah, they definitely don’t. Norwee was initially insisting on either Pine or himself be flipped, now he wants it to be you.

@Norwee, why are you proposing that we flip a slot you’ve been hard tr all game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee, why are you proposing that we flip a slot you’ve been hard tr all game?

I’m not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Unless you’re asking me why i’m coming up with a plan for if TSQ is eliminated, well that is because you people aren’t voting scum!Pine so we need a contingency plan for that.

[Thestatusquo]

oh also nancy I'm a he. Just FYI.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There’s a difference between stating: "I am willing to vote TSQ" (which i am not) and: "Ok, you guys just miseliminated TSQ. Here’s what we need to do: "etc... etc..."

[Nancy Drew 39]

Unless you’re asking me why i’m coming up with a plan for if TSQ is eliminated, well that is because you people aren’t voting scum!Pine so we need a contingency plan for that.

Why is Shea your “contingency plan”?

[Nancy Drew 39]

oh also nancy I'm a he. Just FYI.

I know. Are you possibly misinterpreting my typo? “her” instead of “here”?

[Thestatusquo]

Ah yes ok.