TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[NorwegianboyEE]

Unless you’re asking me why i’m coming up with a plan for if TSQ is eliminated, well that is because you people aren’t voting scum!Pine so we need a contingency plan for that.

Why is Shea your “contingency plan”?

He isn’t. Can you stop saying things i don’t stand for at all? I’m saying that IF TSQ for some reason becomes the elimination today despite all my wishes then we should follow my contingency plan in the case that they flip town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Unless you’re asking me why i’m coming up with a plan for if TSQ is eliminated, well that is because you people aren’t voting scum!Pine so we need a contingency plan for that.

Why is Shea your “contingency plan”?

He isn’t. Can you stop saying things i don’t stand for at all? I’m saying that IF TSQ for some reason becomes the elimination today despite all my wishes then we should follow my contingency plan in the case that they flip town.

????

I direct quoted you.

[Akarin]

If we have to compromise I'd rather Ram than TSQ but I don't really understand why.

Admittedly I'm not read up and I'm saying something so I don't get force replaced, but I'll catch up fully and carefully tomorrow.

[Akarin]

If we elim town, even if Pine's JK

is

real, it can't get guilties.

If we elim scum his results aren't that trustworthy still. Scum can fake no kill.

The mech stuff isn't all that great.

[NorwegianboyEE]

JJ tells me Nancy has misunderstood a large portion of the mechanics and should reread them until they make sense to her.
Key highlights:
-Misty is the most likely nightkill in the hypothetical scenarios given because JJ was accounting for Akarin being a protective target that FL is leashed to.
-FL is JKed on N4 in the event of a D3 TSQ mislim and a D4 Ram scumflip. His doc is one-shot so he won't have a shot on N4.
-Regardless of this, if we mislim today then I advise that we do not leash on N3 because if you're going to pretend there are two protectives currently, there are 3 consensus town. Scum probably lose by killing anyone who isn't consensus town here. If we leash protectives onto 2 out of 3 consensus town, then the third one gets killed every time. If we leave it to RNG we have very good odds of stopping a kill
-We do not support a TSQ elim. We are suggesting a plan specifically for the event in which other people force through a TSQ elim and he inevitably flips town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

With FL's elaboration on his stance, we think he has reached the correct conclusion on the gamestate and therefore we object even harder to a TSQ flip.

[Nancy Drew 39]

With FL's elaboration on his stance, we think he has reached the correct conclusion on the gamestate and therefore we object even harder to a TSQ flip.

Which is a you or Pine flip, so you’re fine then with possibly being the elim?

[NorwegianboyEE]

With FL's elaboration on his stance, we think he has reached the correct conclusion on the gamestate and therefore we object even harder to a TSQ flip.

Which is a you or Pine flip, so you’re fine then with possibly being the elim?

Yes, i think it's much more important to resolve in this Pine/me 1v1 today. And if i become the flip and flip town then Pine should go tommorow.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Between me and TSQ being the mislim, it being me is not preferable to Pine because that will prove how absolutely scummy he's been in regards to my slot in this whole game when i flip town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Between me and TSQ being the mislim, it being me is not preferable to Pine because that will prove how absolutely scummy he's been in regards to my slot in this whole game when i flip town.

Because the most unlikely team has always been and still is you/Pine.

[NorwegianboyEE]

To be clear. I only really want the option to be between [Pine, Ramcius, Norwee] today. Any other elimination is unacceptable. Of these my level of preference is Pine -> Ramcius -> Norwee
Ramcius is second because he is the most viable partner to scum!Pine. Me third because i believe my flip would convince the remaining town slots to eliminate in Pine/Ram and save TSQ from becoming an miselimination in the future.

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 3.13

Pine(3)

~ NorwegianboyEE(461), thestatusquo(115), Akarin(104)

NorwegianboyEE(2)

~ Flavor Leaf(415), Ramcius(144)

thestatusquo(1)

~ Pine(193)

Mistyx(1)

~ Mistyx(127)


Not Voting (1): Nancy Drew 39(353)


With 8 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-24 12:25:00)

Mod Notes

• Have fun!

[Mistyx]

okay so

can someone who is pushing shea walk me through the actual arguments against him

[Pine]

Flavor Leaf

Who is Norwee’s partner here, if not Shea?

[Pine]

okay so

can someone who is pushing shea walk me through the actual arguments against him

I will, but I need the above question answered first.

Feel free to answer it yourself

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor Leaf

Who is Norwee’s partner here, if not Shea?

Ramcius

if you're pocketing me, then you/ramcius

Nancy town reading Ramcius so much is making me paranoid because she town reads scum a lot

[Mistyx]

okay so

can someone who is pushing shea walk me through the actual arguments against him

I will, but I need the above question answered first.

Feel free to answer it yourself

FL would be my first guess, I could buy that it’s theater based off how they’ve progressed today

alternatively it isn’t theater and the two just naturally clash

[Thestatusquo]

In a world where norwee is scum, which is not the world I think we live in, I think the most likely buddy is Ramcius.

[Pine]

Flavor Leaf

Who is Norwee’s partner here, if not Shea?

Ramcius

if you're pocketing me, then you/ramcius

Nancy town reading Ramcius so much is making me paranoid because she town reads scum a lot

Ramcius can’t be Norwee’s partner.

Ramcius!scum does not defend the Jailkeeper against his partner. Ramcius/Shea is not a thing.

Keep going, please.

[Thestatusquo]

Flavor Leaf

Who is Norwee’s partner here, if not Shea?

Ramcius

if you're pocketing me, then you/ramcius

Nancy town reading Ramcius so much is making me paranoid because she town reads scum a lot

Ramcius can’t be Norwee’s partner.

Ramcius!scum does not defend the Jailkeeper against his partner. Ramcius/Shea is not a thing.

Keep going, please.

I KNOW you know this is WIFOM.

[Pine]

How?

We’re talking about a you/Ram team.

In that scenario, FL and I are both Town, and so is our audience.

So how exactly am I trying to deceive him?

[Thestatusquo]

I'm saying that you can't make the claim that scum!ram would or would not interact with your claim in a given way. As the motivations for doing the opposite are within the very argument you're making. This is textbook WIFOM.

[Pine]

No, it isn’t. We are assessing a specific pairing. The premise of that pairing is of a scum pair which makes me Town talking to Town.

Unless you have something concrete to add...?

[Mistyx]

pine i already answered

do you have a point against that

[Pine]

okay so

can someone who is pushing shea walk me through the actual arguments against him

I will, but I need the above question answered first.

Feel free to answer it yourself

FL would be my first guess, I could buy that it’s theater based off how they’ve progressed today

alternatively it isn’t theater and the two just naturally clash

Sorry, I didn’t miss this. I’ll address FL as a possibility once we keep exploring this path.

I know I am asking for some patience and trust, but it will be worth it.