TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[Flavor Leaf]

I do see it, though, Pine and Ramcius if scum have set me up completely to be faded tomorrow if they are scum

Like I am most likely on the chopping block tomorrow no matter what

Uh, no. Not no matter what.

Especially not from your perspective.

Why are you pushing Pine/Ramcius when you still swear it’s Norwegian?

I said

Norwegian/Status
Pine/Ramcius
Norwegian/Ramcius

what part of this is me swearing it's Norwegian?

I feel I've given multiple comments about why I think Pine/Ramcius is more possible, why are you ignoring that?

[Flavor Leaf]

And as soon as I start getting paranoid and not town reading Pine as hard, you're coming after me

[Pine]

Your vote is on Norwee and you have repeatedly demanded people vote him and prove you right

[Pine]

Just fade Norwegian so i can prove i am right like always

Literally hours ago

[Flavor Leaf]

Your vote is on Norwee and you have repeatedly demanded people vote him and prove you right

yes, and I still think Norwegian is the best fade. Where have I said differently?

[Pine]

Sorry did I say hours? Twenty minutes ago

[NorwegianboyEE]

I do see it, though, Pine and Ramcius if scum have set me up completely to be faded tomorrow if they are scum

Like I am most likely on the chopping block tomorrow no matter what

Uh, no. Not no matter what.

Especially not from your perspective.

Why are you pushing Pine/Ramcius when you still swear it’s Norwegian?

Like, hold up. Full stop.

This does not make sense from your perspective.

UNVOTE:

Explain. Now.

FL's stance is clearly explained as thinking it's me/TSQ. but on the off chance it isn't then it's you/Ramicus. Which is the exact team i'm pushing. I'm not sure what part of this doesn't make sense from him?

[Flavor Leaf]

A Norwegian town flip means Pine is always flipped tomorrow, so Ramcius partner could have tried to get the vanilla that I was seeing as his 1v1 faded. This game has always been 1 of Pine/Norwegian with 1 of Ramcius/Status, and Pine/Status is the only pairing I don't think possible of those

Pine/Ramcius
Norwegian/Ramcius
Norwegian/Status

exactly what i've been saying

[Pine]

Then he should be fine with a Shea elim. A Shea elim solves the game, and also would support his theory.

His hard resistance to this is wildly suspicious, as is his days-long silence until things start to go against the you/me dichotomy.

Norwee, Jingle and I are becoming increasingly worried that it’s been Shea/FL all along, subtly pushing the you/me dichotomy. They win either way there.

[Pine]

^@Norwee

[Flavor Leaf]

Status is the least optimal of the 4 on the worst case scenario list, all 3 other fades, if we end up fading town, get the game pretty much on auto win.

Status is the only one with the potential misfade to not have the game be auto win for town

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee, Jingle and I are becoming increasingly worried that it’s been Shea/FL all along, subtly pushing the you/me dichotomy. They win either way there.

What makes you think they are a team?

[Pine]

A Norwegian town flip means Pine is always flipped tomorrow, so Ramcius partner could have tried to get the vanilla that I was seeing as his 1v1 faded. This game has always been 1 of Pine/Norwegian with 1 of Ramcius/Status, and Pine/Status is the only pairing I don't think possible of those

Pine/Ramcius
Norwegian/Ramcius
Norwegian/Status

exactly what i've been saying

And there it is - Norwee Townflip leads to me tomorrow, boom, Shea/FL win. They just have to survive today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

JJ says he doesn't see a single team that doesn't include Ramcius atm.

[Pine]

Norwee, Jingle and I are becoming increasingly worried that it’s been Shea/FL all along, subtly pushing the you/me dichotomy. They win either way there.

What makes you think they are a team?

Look, I’m at a family gathering and am pissing off my parents by being in a corner by myself.

I am very interested in detente between us. I need to digest this, and will be fully available in a couple of hours

[Flavor Leaf]

Then he should be fine with a Shea elim. A Shea elim solves the game, and also would support his theory.

His hard resistance to this is wildly suspicious, as is his days-long silence until things start to go against the you/me dichotomy.

Norwee, Jingle and I are becoming increasingly worried that it’s been Shea/FL all along, subtly pushing the you/me dichotomy. They win either way there.

Why would I defend Status so hard here as their scum partner, that would just tie me to them if they flipped today and flipped scum. I don't see this as something Jingle would say here. I also don't believe Jingle would think status is the optimal fade here. Like it's just not.

He would see why from my POV, as town, I'm not okay with that

[Pine]

JJ says he doesn't see a single team that doesn't include Ramcius atm.

Ramcius has been energetically trying to solve today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's fine if you answer later, but just be aware that i want to know what you see between Pine/TSQ and what justifies this argument.

[Flavor Leaf]

Norwee, Jingle and I are becoming increasingly worried that it’s been Shea/FL all along, subtly pushing the you/me dichotomy. They win either way there.

What makes you think they are a team?

Because I'm defending him

[NorwegianboyEE]

FL/TSQ*

[Pine]

Then he should be fine with a Shea elim. A Shea elim solves the game, and also would support his theory.

His hard resistance to this is wildly suspicious, as is his days-long silence until things start to go against the you/me dichotomy.

Norwee, Jingle and I are becoming increasingly worried that it’s been Shea/FL all along, subtly pushing the you/me dichotomy. They win either way there.

Why would I defend Status so hard here as their scum partner, that would just tie me to them if they flipped today and flipped scum. I don't see this as something Jingle would say here. I also don't believe Jingle would think status is the optimal fade here. Like it's just not.

He would see why from my POV, as town, I'm not okay with that

But you haven’t.

You’ve not said really anything, for or against Shea.

You’ve only pushed alternatives. That’s precisely what I expect from scum of your caliber - you don’t defend your partners, you busy yourself elsewhere and prosecute an alternative.

[Flavor Leaf]

I was pushing Norwegian and Status like all of Day 2.

I specifically called out Status pushing Akarin as a way of moving the game away from Norwegian/FL 1v1 to save Norwegian.

That is actively a lie

[Flavor Leaf]

you don’t defend your partners, you busy yourself elsewhere and prosecute an alternative.

And there it is, I guess.

I'm hard anti-bus, and Jingle would have known that had he been really giving you stuff, and I actively do defend my partners as scum.

[Pine]

It's fine if you answer later, but just be aware that i want to know what you see between Pine/TSQ and what justifies this argument.

I see a total ABSENCE of connection. They’re ignoring one another - refusing to even consider them.

He cleared Shea/me but didn’t clear Ram/Norwee, despite the reasoning being exactly the same. It’s a basic failure of inductive reasoning - he’s not employing it. He’s justifying reads to suit an agenda.

I need to think more on this. Jingle’s rereading some things while I do.

[Flavor Leaf]

Go on and check my other scum games and see how much absence of connection I have with teammates.

I am a scum theatre god