Micro 997: Superb Idea Mafia - GAME OVER

[pirate mollie]

hey guys

what's going on

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first

VOTE: pirate mollie

piracy is bad

haterz gonna hate

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VOTE: pirate mollie

I agree.

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i may be willing to let [REDACTED] win if [REDACTED] winning does not end the game.

He's also saying this while not unvoting me. The town move here would be to clarify the game moving forward.

I probably got this game broken wide open already but it's the second day of day one and there are tons of people who having gotten much of their own two cents in since the game moved on to more serious topics

I always find it a little strange, when people use a lot of words to justify what I originally thought was a rvs vote with nebulous intent

I really wish we had color coded tabs, so I could bookmark this.

anyhoo

VOTE: gamma emerald

hellooooooooooooooo

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@pirate mollie, why Gamma?

Momrangel is a jester.

If this ends the game, so be it.

Mostly to generate a response from them

They haven't posted yet.

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Also, man oh man did I need more mollie in my life

Don't do drugs kids, they'll control yer

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VOTE: koba

Really going for policy in this kind of game? tsk tsk. What if mom is a jester?

oh yaye, I got a town read

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I don't want to elim Koba and see where they are coming from. If I actually believed the jester claim, I'd join them.

for realz, she could very well be town and doing this, lol. it is why I am not worrying about it. I imagine the problem is self-resolving.

I probably need to review the set-up and accepted role randoms for superb mafia. she can be an alien psychotrooper for all we know, lol.

I think flea person is town. what have you got?

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What flea person?

sorry, TEA person. that was an automiscorrect

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Mollie, Mom's case on WhemeStar is good. Come join me?

yeah, but she is going after 3p instead of scum :/

so there is that. however she gets a d1 pass from me.

never touching dkoba. liking Gamma. liking you too for that matter! I don't think you would be reaching out to me like this as scum. still got my eye on you tho

@ BBMolla and Everyone Else: I am on v/la cos I am moving into our new place!

I should be back before nightfall, unless you guys just ram a lynch through while I am gone. There is no reason things to rush things. We got time. Meanwhile, let's try to wrangle as much info from the day as we can. It will strengthen our position going into d2.

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We finally finished moving today. Give me a couple of dates to get oriented a little, and then I will get back into this game.

meanwhile UNVOTE:

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I can certainly promise you I will not be eliminated today - unless I am eliminated without being asked to claim. Especially so, given that unlike yourself - I do actually operate my ability during the day.

Claiming to be a Jester is what I would consider to be an incredibly suboptimal move regardless of alignment. The discussion that followed engaged the game as a whole and generated discussion; not only that the claim has ultimately identified whom our Third Party player is. This was a risk/reward strategy.

DkKoba's claim has been focused on one player, has no generated little engaging reads overall and had drawn focus to a small handful of players. The only way any other player was going to become part of that to either disperse it or expand its potential for read building and solving was to place themselves firmly in the firing line. This is tunneling and using out of game information to assault another player. There is no risk here.

This is the difference to me, Momrangel took a risk - you did not.

Neither of you should have lied, in my opinion; however, there is a clear and distinct difference in the methodology, risk and result.

That you are tunnelled, DkKoba, speaks volumes.

So, I will put to you, given that I will not be eliminated today, and assuming you gain no further traction nor support for Gamma Emerald - where else do your reads lie?

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Given all I have said in this post, it would be wise to consider any sort of hammer upon me a scumclaim.

I am not okay with a Hatter elimination at his time.

I have super loose reads from earlier in the game, and honestly struggling to make sense of how to apply them now.

From pre catch up notes:

Mara: could be town/indie, maybe scum I doubt it, seems like a weird gambit if they had a scum partner
Gamma: I had solid town but don't remember why
Titus: I am really liking her this game
dkoba: read is contingent

Hatters has always struck a townchord within me. but this is character play and I get that other people are not loving it as much as I am. I feel like it is alignment indicative because of their choice of words that are in resonance within the character play they have presented.

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You are trying to say I am doing something I am not repeatedly and when I asked you for proof you're just trying to say that you dont need to prove anything and trying to twist stuff around to change what my actions actually are. I feel gaslighted and just because you don't like being accused of it doesn't mean its untrue.

That is not what gaslighting means.

I have you as town but ffs

the rhetoric

I can't get behind that and won't support it.

I am pretty behind and I lost my vein of thought with the game so I feel like I am starting from scratch. I am giving myself 24 hours to catch up and reorient myself. If someone could give me a quick tl;dr that would be great.

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[i]gaslighting (present participle)[/i]
manipulate (someone) by psychological means into doubting their own sanity, memories, or their reality.

Again, take your accusations, place them and yourself within the bin, and see yourself out. As someone who has been subjected to years of gaslighting, I kindly ask that you quite frankly make like the wind and blow.

So where are you wrt gamestate?You have admitted you have lied, others have seen your lies and confirmed them, now begone.

Let's take a step and chill for a bit ~

I am catching up but what I have found is that I can get so much more out of interacting with players as opposed to reading what people said 5 days ago.

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WHat are your thoughts wrt the game?

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You are trying to say I am doing something I am not repeatedly and when I asked you for proof you're just trying to say that you dont need to prove anything and trying to twist stuff around to change what my actions actually are. I feel gaslighted and just because you don't like being accused of it doesn't mean its untrue.

That is not what gaslighting means.

I have you as town but ffs

the rhetoric

I can't get behind that and won't support it.

I am pretty behind and I lost my vein of thought with the game so I feel like I am starting from scratch. I am giving myself 24 hours to catch up and reorient myself. If someone could give me a quick tl;dr that would be great.

ah the gaslight understander has logged on.

I am kinda thinking you need to take a chill out time ~

I had you down as town because I thought you were crumbing that you had a juicy town role and now I don't think that is the case. I think my trust has been misplaced.

goddammit, lol

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Gamma: I had solid town but don't remember why

When did this happen? You were voting him when you went vla and I think you still are.

if I remember correctly I think it was an rvs vote and when I re-engaged I unvoted.

hi Titus <3

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Let’s just hammer and get this day over with

This is not town.

I don't you have a tl;dr catch up I can work around? I had you down as town too and Mara as indie/possible town and that is as far as I got. The last real connection I had in the game was Mara catching Whemestar out from her gambit, was that ever resolved in a meaningful way?

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Mmm...

I'll just...

VOTE: wheme

Could you post a read list?

can you plz post yours too? ty <3

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we need a flip

I am ready to hammer anything or anyone

what is the vc

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I think we need to massclaim no later than d3

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has pooky posted?

VOTE: pooky

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if we get scum/3p today -> massclaim d3
if no scum/3p today ->massclaim d2

correction, this ^

it is a micro and a superb idea game

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I hope you understand that I would like to verify this for myself, if that is indeed the case?

sorry

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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I am so done with the day round, I don't think I am gonna get anything more meaningful out of the day.

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guys

I think I fucked up royally.

It's my fault dkoba is dead. I am sorry.

I am cool to be eliminated because I quite frankly, don't trust my judgement.

what do y'all want me to do

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I am not a bus driver, I am the doc and I forgot to submit a night action

and I am sorry.

I thought I had more time than I had and I wanted to do a reread just to be sure but I was pretty sure that dkoba was signaling for doc protection and I had every intention of giving it.

so yeah, I fucked up in a big way.

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sorry

I am going to go crawl in a hole somewhere...

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straight up town doc

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before we go

can someone plz tell me what I am supposed to do here, ffs, plz

who am I protecting

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you are protecting me

cool

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Pooky if you are a vig then shoot Titus, I'll shoot Mollie. If neither of them are scum then Wheme is just a Godfather or you are scum.

VOTE: Momrangal

I am protecting Hatter

wasn't there a second vig or something

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I don't really understand why we conceded, but I was very disengaged from the game so I felt it was Titus's call and she wanted this so

Town played really well I thought, I hate playing breakable set ups tho. I mostly signed up because Molla was running it and Gamma Emerald was in it.

Thanks for the game, guys! <3

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I believe the path to defeat Titus saw was

Titus gets shot by Pooky
Outworld shoots literally anyone to be confirmed
Scum kill one of the confirmed towns

mollie vs 2 confirmed towns in lylo

it's my bad for not limiting the number of publicly confirmable roles, but it didn't help that all the possible miselims were dead within the first day or so.

the game was definitely breakable, but I believe in making town earn it. I would likely get voted out in lylo almost always in this case, for realz tho, lol.

Titus did the game a solid <3

sorry

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i think if i shoot titus
mollie shoots me
ower shoots mollie

tomm we wake up with 4 alive

mollie can maybe get ower elimmed for the win

you greatly underestimate my ability to NOT troll ower, they takes themselves very seriously (ow ) and it would have been funny.

I might even have gone back to quoting a famous author while throwing a dance party with food.

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I missed mollie fr rl. I'm glad I got to play with her again, even if just for a little while

I missed you too

I was really hoping we could get a Mara/Titus/Mollie dream team off 3p + scum, but no, you were town.

random.org

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Look at my role
Then look at Dk’s play this game
Then look at my role again
AND THEN TELL ME “I SHOULD HAVE CLAIMED” WITH A STRAIGHT FUCKING FACE. YOU ABSOLUTE DUMBASS.

I would have done what I could to protect because I love indies, regardless of alignment. Plus you are a familiar face and I am sentimental.

fyi

Why are you so grumpy? Serious question.