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NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #713 (isolation #0) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:05 pm

Hi everyone.

Read back a few pages and don't see anything too special so far. Looks like there is some good town blocking going on.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #714 (isolation #1) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:08 pm

VOTE: Willow1

I don't mind sheeping as a strategy in general, but why shadowslug?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #732 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:16 am

You need to differentiate between scuminess and playstyle.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #737 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:56 am

I don't have an issue with hydra they bring a unique challenge and aspect to the game. They may take a little longer to sort. I'm not convinced that Pizza is scummy though.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #738 (isolation #4) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:57 am

In post 734, We brought pizza wrote:
In post 732, NoPowerOverMe wrote:You need to differentiate between scuminess and playstyle.
Who are you talking to?

Clidd/pizza dispute.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #740 (isolation #5) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:15 am

I think clidd has town intentions but may be barking up the wrong tree.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #747 (isolation #6) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:24 am

I think willow deserves more scrutiny.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #749 (isolation #7) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:26 am

Sheeping, attacking gamma who looks townish.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #775 (isolation #8) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:59 am

I'm not saying sheeping or attacking gamma by itself is scummy, I am just getting scummy vibes overall.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #778 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:03 am

In post 754, shadowslug wrote:
In post 749, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Sheeping, attacking gamma who looks townish.
klick is also voting gamma, your thoughts on them?

willow was up front about sheeping me on tris which isn't a scumtell imo, i think it's also unfair to characterize their whole game as sheeping when they've gone down independent roads of thought too

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #782 (isolation #10) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:11 am

i've played with town murder not scum murder

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #788 (isolation #11) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:15 am

I don't wall post, for one, so if you are looking for that then good luck.

I look a lot at who people are attacking and supporting. I find that scum that don't necessarily fit into a townblock or at least a group of players that are familiar with each other tend to attack townish players more harshly.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #790 (isolation #12) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:18 am

fact that you "want" to vote me but don't says a lot.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #793 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 am

Players I am familiar with are:
Gamma Emerald
Lunar Martian
Murdercat
Not_Mafia
PookyTheMagicalBear

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #794 (isolation #14) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 am

In post 792, shadowslug wrote:
In post 790, NoPowerOverMe wrote:fact that you "want" to vote me but don't says a lot.
what does it say?

That you think voting me might have negative reprecussions.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #796 (isolation #15) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:27 am

Scary.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #802 (isolation #16) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:37 am

In post 800, shadowslug wrote:
In post 775, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not saying sheeping or attacking gamma by itself is scummy, I am just getting scummy vibes overall.
so when i ask can you be more specific about scummy vibes you respond with "i don't do wall posts"

you can elaborate your reasoning without it being a whole wall you know. willow seems like a very safe slot to vote on here, there's nobody really defending them much, and you coming in and only saying "sheep. scummy vibes." is a real bad look

This falls into the throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks category.

I appreciate you are scumhunting but it is day 1 and we have to work with what we have.

I think gut scum hunting is probably pretty common on day 1 and not scum indicative at all.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #807 (isolation #17) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:49 am

In post 805, Klick wrote:
In post 780, Gamma Emerald wrote:Shadowslug, willow1, clidd
NPOM, Flea
Not_Mafia, Toogeloo, pizza
mastina
[empty]
BBmolla, Klick
PookytheMagicalBear

mastina is on the null line rn
Talk to me about NM being above null

I just remember guitarist mafia and pooky managing to "recruit" two of the mafia members into his band.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #810 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:51 am

I don't see a lot that is elimination worthy.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #823 (isolation #19) » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:08 am

I hope it isn't true about discord because that is against talking about the game rules.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #918 (isolation #20) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:28 am

Martina's reads seem off but I'm not sure she's a viable day 1 elim.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #919 (isolation #21) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:29 am

Mastina

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #938 (isolation #22) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:39 am

What's the klick case?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #957 (isolation #23) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:55 am

I can do klick I guess. Not crazy about it though.

VOTE: klick

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #962 (isolation #24) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:06 am

I mean a self vote or a no elim is pretty bad.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1026 (isolation #25) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:42 pm

I spew town with every post I make.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1027 (isolation #26) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:44 pm

We can claim in this game right?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1029 (isolation #27) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:49 pm

It's true that I'm probably not a mafia conformist.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1030 (isolation #28) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:49 pm

But I've had pretty good scumhunting results lately.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1069 (isolation #29) » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:42 am

I got a night action result but it's probably best to wait and see if I can use it to counter the target at some point.

NoPowerOverMe · Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:53 am

@mastina if you think my wagon was so towny did you visit me last night?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1091 (isolation #31) » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:05 pm

In post 1080, mastina wrote:
In post 1072, NoPowerOverMe wrote:@mastina if you think my wagon was so towny did you visit me last night?
I did not activate a visiting role N1 so no, I did not.

So you're saying you didn't leave your house?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1107 (isolation #32) » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:45 pm

In post 1091, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 1080, mastina wrote:
In post 1072, NoPowerOverMe wrote:@mastina if you think my wagon was so towny did you visit me last night?
I did not activate a visiting role N1 so no, I did not.
So you're saying you didn't leave your house?

Correct--if you're planning on fakeclaiming a guilty on me tho, I should warn you that you're in for a

rude

surprise. One that I will not be claiming even if run up.

I did activate a power, so I am currently not vanilla, but this power was one that fundamentally cannot visit another player. So for all intents and purposes, I am effectively a VT. (I suppose it wouldn't hurt to check to see if activating the power counted as a self-visit, but I fundamentally could not have visited another player last night.)[/quote]

I've never faked a guilty before, why would I start now?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1109 (isolation #33) » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:30 pm

In post 1107, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I've never faked a guilty before, why would I start now?

I wouldn't know, but any result of yours where you claim I did a visiting action would inherently be a lie because I didn't--I got confirmation from the mod that activating my power last night did not count as a visit at all. So if you claim that I did visit...it'd, inherently, be you lying. I wouldn't be able to know why you were lying, just that you were, because I 100% know for a fact that I did not visit anyone last night because I

couldn't

visit anyone last night. The pack that I started with had three non-visiting roles, one of which I activated last night, and two visiting roles (both of which I felt should be upgraded before they were used since one was completely worthless and the other was only nominally useful as-was), which the person who it was passed onto (Pooky I think if my playerlist math is right) can confirm they received.[/quote]

I never said you did a visiting action, I just asked if you left your house. Those are two different things.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1111 (isolation #34) » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:43 pm

No guilty from me.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1115 (isolation #35) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:52 am

I'm not sure on mastina, pooky is hard to read because of playstyle, slug seems townish.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1116 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:53 am

I feel like this game will be won or lost on night actions more so than scummy behavior. A lot of players seem to be playing their cards close to the chest.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1127 (isolation #37) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 am

I'm not sure of the likelyhood of Mastina activating a power where she moves at her house but doesn't leave.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1131 (isolation #38) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:11 am

My play isn't wierd. You seem nervous.

VOTE: Mastina

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1132 (isolation #39) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:13 am

I'll go ahead and claim my D1 power. I was a motion detector and got a positive on Mastina's house.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1133 (isolation #40) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:14 am

N1 power rather.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1135 (isolation #41) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:20 am

My gut is that Mastina was acting anti-town since yesterday, I'm aware that motion detectors detect visitors, but no one has claimed that yet.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1136 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:22 am

Besides that, Mastina is claiming that she moved but didn't leave her house.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1138 (isolation #43) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:43 am

Bad how? I got a positive.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1140 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:59 am

Maybe, but mastina is being cagey and nervous. And no one is claiming they visited her.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1142 (isolation #45) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:28 am

Because of my result?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1145 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:20 am

She's not screaming town to me. She's screaming experienced player who knows how to look town.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1146 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:21 am

There's a difference between a motion and a visit.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1149 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:30 am

Well two consecutive town eliminations could be very detrimental.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1150 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:31 am

In post 1148, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont get it

how is this result even mean mastina scum lol

I'm not saying the result by itself means she's scum. I'm saying her refusal to provide more information about her power and her trying to work against me rather than with me doesn't strike me as townish.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1153 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:37 am

I'm rolefishing because my result could provide clues to Mastina's alignment. Likely? Probably not, but possibly.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1156 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:56 am

No kidding.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1157 (isolation #52) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:57 am

What kind of role is a "non-visiting" action?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1159 (isolation #53) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:00 am

Maybe a nexus?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1165 (isolation #54) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:59 am

Are scum packs and town packs drawn from the same pool or are scum packs more likely to have scum leaning roles?

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:13 am

Millers are supposed to be claim post 1 right?

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:00 pm

So flea is scum?

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:15 pm

Why does anyone claim miller aside from being a miller? To avoid a guilty.

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:16 pm

I also had very lukewarm roles.

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:26 pm

Would a massclaim make sense here if most of us have weak roles?

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:33 pm

But coordinating our actions could be beneficial.

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:39 pm

OMGUS much?

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:53 pm

On who?

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:57 pm

Yeah because scum!me is really pushing scum!flea here.

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:59 pm

If you say so. The game was stagnant before I stepped in.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1214 (isolation #65) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:06 pm

You can be given cards without permission right?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1217 (isolation #66) » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:10 pm

VOTE: Flea

NoPowerOverMe · Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:30 pm

So
a) We have a kill stopper and a roleblocker.

b) Pooky is lying scum and MB is a roleblocker

c) MB is scum and and Pooky is a kill stopper

d) both are lying

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1256 (isolation #68) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:20 am

I don't think pooky is as good as you give him credit for. He gets miselikinated a lot.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1260 (isolation #69) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:37 am

I'm bland therefore I'm scummy?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1261 (isolation #70) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:38 am

I used a town only role last night btw.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1268 (isolation #71) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:48 am

Am I wrong on either count?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1269 (isolation #72) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:51 am

I'm not seeing the mastina love tbh. She seems edgy to me.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1272 (isolation #73) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:58 am

My experience with pooky is that he fluff posts a lot and avoids stances.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1275 (isolation #74) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:05 am

Also there is no such thing as a “town only” power except innocent child and you aren’t mod confirmed town soooooo pretty sure you’re scum.

Not true according to wiki.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1276 (isolation #75) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:06 am

I get a lot of shade but no votes....hmmm...

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1278 (isolation #76) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:10 am

I don't see why mastina is bent out of shape about my motion detector.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1285 (isolation #77) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:36 am

I only had weak roles to use. we are not garaunteed to have the roles later if I understand the rules.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1287 (isolation #78) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:41 am

That's explicitly not what I said.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1289 (isolation #79) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:58 am

But he's just a lovable bear.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1298 (isolation #80) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:21 am

Did you state a townread of mastina previously?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1302 (isolation #81) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:22 am

I hate you.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1303 (isolation #82) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:23 am

Do you think y=mx+b is scum?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1310 (isolation #83) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:34 am

Youre assuming all night actions have been claimed?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1312 (isolation #84) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:43 am

Because you're making definitive statements about night action resolution.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1317 (isolation #85) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:03 am

Or you are scum and lying.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1322 (isolation #86) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:24 am

I find it scummy that y=mx+b is exaggerating/omitting as he sees fit.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1325 (isolation #87) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:29 am

Sorry didn't mean to offend math.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1327 (isolation #88) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:35 am

How would mastina know if she was protected?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1334 (isolation #89) » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:36 am

I think we are beyond the gut elim stage.

NoPowerOverMe · Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:59 am

VOTE: mathblade

NoPowerOverMe · Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:06 pm

I trust mathblades obviousl reads as far as I can throw them.

NoPowerOverMe · Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:10 pm

@mod I am voting

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1367 (isolation #93) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:07 am

Mastina isn't conftown.

The possibility exists that MathBlocked mastina's kill and Pooky is lying about doctoring Mastina.

I'd say town!mastina is a strong possibility though.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1375 (isolation #94) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:44 am

I'm voting you because you're acting scummy.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1377 (isolation #95) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:56 am

I find the way you're approaching scumhunting scummy. Your approach seems self serving.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1379 (isolation #96) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:04 am

I think you're more interested in pushing your own theories than collaborating with others besides Matista.

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1381 (isolation #97) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:11 am

Your role didn't say simple on your pm?

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1385 (isolation #98) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:19 am

Pooky and Mastina are both likely town. I know I'm town. I think you are exxagerating your towniness. Toogaloo appears to be town as well.

I would guess that the scum may be among the lower active players in this game.

Unvote

NoPowerOverMe · Post Post #1390 (isolation #99) » Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:42 am

In post 1388, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1384, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:dude i would never change my claim if im mafia

i think bbmolla is the best suspect if mastina was the kill which is what we both think happened last night right?
:/

I wouldn't kill mastina lol

If you were scum you wouldn't kill town!mastina? That would be against your win condition.

NoPowerOverMe · Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:50 am

what specifically is mastina wrong about?

NoPowerOverMe · Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:56 am

I think we should consider townblocking.

NoPowerOverMe · Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:09 am

NoPowerOverMe · Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:30 pm

Tunneling is not scum hunting.

NoPowerOverMe · Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:35 pm

I'm not scum. Your logic is very flimsy.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:19 am

VOTE: pizza

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:06 am

Watch out you might offend them.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:27 am

I am still fairly certain my power is a town only power.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:06 am

Why do you think my power doesn't exist?

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:07 am

Omgus-orama!

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:14 am

Let's just say that my power is not traditionally given to scum. It could conceivably be scum but it would be very non conventional.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:15 am

And I did use the power.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:19 am

You can scumread me as much as you want but I'm not scum.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:21 am

It says it's town only in the wiki.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:27 pm

In post 1464, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1457, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Let's just say that my power is not traditionally given to scum. It could conceivably be scum but it would be very non conventional.
what power did you use?

PGO

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:32 pm

No it's a one shot but it does say Pro-Town in the wiki.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:45 pm

When's the last time you saw a mafia with PGO?

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:45 pm

When's the last time you saw a mafia with PGO?

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:47 pm

Also I didn't have it when I started the game which means someone gave it to me.

NoPowerOverMe · Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:48 pm

Show of good faith.

VOTE: BBMolla