TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[Creature]

Creature, I want you to explain when you thought beeboy self-voted and how that's been affecting your reads this game.

It was DGB who said Adorable voteparked beeboy after they selfvoted and I didn't bother to check.

[Hectic]

You keep saying there's no downside to massclaim, but what's the upside? Scum has perfect setup knowledge anyway, we're unlikely to catch them via bad claims

[DeasVail]

I think xofelf is the only person in the game with a solid townread on Reck

PEdit: I dont think massclaim is a terrible thing that must be avoided at all costs. I just don’t see the advantage for town.

[Augustus Caesar]

You keep saying there's no downside to massclaim, but what's the upside? Scum has perfect setup knowledge anyway, we're unlikely to catch them via bad claims

[DeasVail]

Yeah what Hectic said

[Creature]

You keep saying there's no downside to massclaim, but what's the upside? Scum has perfect setup knowledge anyway, we're unlikely to catch them via bad claims

They might end up just all claiming VT but at least we can clear a few PR claimers.

[Adorable]

Creature, I want you to explain when you thought beeboy self-voted and how that's been affecting your reads this game.

It was DGB who said Adorable voteparked beeboy after they selfvoted and I didn't bother to check.

This was most likely a mod error because beeboy never voted.

[Creature]

Yeah, DGB had plenty of VCs posted.

[Creature]

Tgough, just realised beeboy was my error. I should've used RCE instead.

[Augustus Caesar]

Yeah, DGB had plenty of VCs posted.

What do you mean?

[Augustus Caesar]

Have your other teammates had any other opinions?

[Augustus Caesar]

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[Creature]

Votecount 1.5

• Sirius9121 (1) - Summer Nights,
• Augustus Caesar (0) -
• Aristophanes (2) - Datisi, The Bulge
• Datisi (0) -
• Summer Nights (0) -
• Creature (0) -
• xofelf (0) -
• DeasVail (0) -
• The Bulge (0) -
• Adorable (1) - xRECKONERx
• petapan (0)
• xRECKONERx (1) - Aristophanes
• beeboy (4) - Augustus Caesar, petapan, beeboy, Adorable

Not Voting (4) : Creature, xofelf, Sirius9121, DeasVail,
Deadline: (expired on 2021-01-29 21:00:00)
With thirteen alive, it takes seven votes to eliminate and seven votes to skip the day's elimination.

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After only movement, the hobgoblin expired as we hoped. No attacking needed.
He will melee attack the gecko. Geckos have such low health that poison darts would be wasteful.

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The first melee attack was a one hit kill, and Untrod Tripod leveled up to level 2. His mana doubled!

This was the VC DGB used to point Adorable never unvoted afterwards.

[Creature]

Votecount 1.F

• Sirius9121 (He/Him)(0)
• Augastus Caesar (He/Him) (0)
• Aristophanes (He/Him)(0)
• Datisi (He/Him)(0)
• Summer Nights (She/Her)(1) DeasVail
• Creature (He/Him)(0)
• xofelf (They/Them)(0)
• DeasVail (He/Him)(0)
• The Bulge (Any/Any) (0)
  
• Adorable (She/Her)(0)
  
• petapan (Any/Any)(1) The Bulge
  
• xRECKONERx (He/Him)(0)
  
• RCEnigma (He/Him)(7) Augustus Caesar, Summer Nights, Adorable, Creature, petapan, xRECKONERx, xofelf

Not Voting (4): Sirius9121, Aristophanes, Datisi, RCEnigma

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RCEnigma has been frozen solid. He was a Mafia Informed.

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Night begins. To maintain consistency with the other games, I won't accept any night actions using discord.

Deadline: (expired on 2021-01-30 21:00:00)

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And in this VC DGB said there must have scum between Reck and xofelf.

[Creature]

DGB had Adorable + xofelf with Reck as alternative.

[Augustus Caesar]

How can you even gather anything from that VC alone though without knowing the context? I'd think DGB or you would've gone to ISO beeboy if you were trying to solve him, and would've seen the lack of a self-vote. And how is Puff's vote suspicious when you don't know the purpose of the self-vote, like whether it was a concede/joke/AtE, and so on.

[Creature]

How can you even gather anything from that VC alone though without knowing the context?

Idk DGB has been pulling votecounts all game. Though I used them knowing the context and I found them agreeable.

[Creature]

And how is Puff's vote suspicious when you don't know the purpose of the self-vote, like whether it was a concede/joke/AtE, and so on.

Sounded like a bus.

It was probably an AtE selfvote from RCE.

[Augustus Caesar]

Why do you townread Ari?

[Adorable]

And how is Puff's vote suspicious when you don't know the purpose of the self-vote, like whether it was a concede/joke/AtE, and so on.

Sounded like a bus.

It was probably an AtE selfvote from RCE.

I don't understand what you are saying here. What ate selfvote are you talking about on RCE? I voted beeboy and when RCE replaced in for beeboy my vote was still on the same slot.

[Augustus Caesar]

Meh, I need a flip, this is driving me insane and I've run out of steam to do more rereading/efforting today. I just want to hear Ari's team responses, and The Bulge and xofelf should chip in when they can, and then lets flip this Creature. I'm taking a break from this game until I feel less... stressed out about it, which might be a day or a few days. I'll give closing thoughts in case you guys kill Creature while I'm gone (which I would be completely fine with).

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Reads:

Puff/Deas
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The Bulge/Ydrasse
Xofelf
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Reck
Ari
Creature

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I’ve ISOed everyone in my townpool and here's my thoughts:

Firstly, we have Deas and Puff. Both of these slots give me warm, fuzzy feelings.

Puff is pure and genuine and everything about this slot lacks any scum agenda, she’s just posting what she thinks without care for how it’ll look or be perceived. Looks better if Creature flips scum.

Regarding Deas, I’m dumb for even scumcasing him based on a gutread earlier when I almost agree with every single thing he says, or at least sympathise with it. He’s had consistently good takes this entire game. Looks better if Creature flips scum.

Then we have The Bulge and Ydrasse. Previously thought they were both very confident town, but have grown less confident over time.

The Bulge was confident town earlier based on the claim + annoyance following it, and at the start of today. Dropping off completely today after promising to solve makes me less confident though. Shrug on how he looks if Creature flips scum.

Ydrasse was confident town for her earlier rage/emotion at Datisi and all of my logic around that. However, Dann makes some points, and her solving is not fakeable this game. Looks worse if Creature flips scum.

Finally, we have Xofelf. They’re probably town for sounding genuine and having takes that sound like they believe in them. The interactions with RCE were not partner-indicative. They don’t post often so the sample size is lower. Shrug on how they look if Creature flips scum.

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Conclusion:

If Creature flips scum –
I think Reck is the other scum. Ari is less likely scum just based on how it’d be terrible play for them to be playing it the way they are right now. Ari acting self-sacrificial and not pushing any wagons, while Creature refuses to bus Ari, while Ari is reluctant to bus Creature. It’s just… horribly game losing if they’re both scum.
If it’s not Reck, then someone has infiltrated my pentagon of friends, and I will find you and hunt you down unfriend you whoever you are.

If Creature flips town –
then monstro help me. It’s still one of Ari/Reck (probably Ari) and someone in the pentagon. I’ll just enter my final form and re-evaluate EVERYONE if I'm still alive though and we’ll be fine…

[The Bulge]

I'm pretty good at hunting partners.

[The Bulge]

Haven't read everything but I'll be on later tonight. sorry for the disappearance, the last few days were unexpectedly very busy and I didn't prioritize this. pretty unfortunate timing given my gusto on daystart but tbh i hate playing conftown and I was really hoping someone would be pushing me today lol. not throwing in the towel because I dont want this to be a repeat of Illicit Substances' endphases for me, but like, yea, still here, still wanna win, love that we're doing Creature, pce for now

[The Bulge]

Ydrasse!scum feels like too much of a stretch at this point idk

[The Bulge]

maybe I'll read that ari isodive some day