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[Ramcius]

Why not Shea/Norwee or Norwee/FL?

Why FL refused to vote TSQ? Also, you think that was scumtheather between Norwee and FL?

What happened to your Norwee TR? I mean, if you tried to pair me with TSQ/FL, it would be more reasonable that Norwee

Why?

Can you be a little more specific?

[Nancy Drew 39]

It’s possible.I just can’t help thinking that FL hammering is scum suicide, because it makes him look seriously bad and he usually tries to manipulate the gamestate better as scum.

[Ramcius]

It’s possible.I just can’t help thinking that FL hammering is scum suicide, because it makes him look seriously bad and he usually tries to manipulate the gamestate better as scum.

Who else could hammer? You or me? I wasn't going to and you refused to do it, so he had to hammer, he was too scared of jk, he knew that claim was real, he was even preparing Pine's kill with pointing out how scum gonna kill jk Pine. Also you forgetting that FL can do anything he want and people just brush it off as a FL's crazy playstyle. Let's take his rush to hammer Zor, when I called it bad elim, his excuse is that "DEB would've hammered anyway", but in reality who cares if DEB hammers and not FL? What does it change? Thing was that he was afraid that DEB won't be in time for hammer and someone will unvote to start discussion with me on why Zor's elim was bad, same thing with Pine, he was in a rush before Pine posted his case on FL, couldn't he really wait?

Also, what other outcome we could have? No elim? That's nothing good for scum

[Nancy Drew 39]

True. I wanted to wait for Pine to post his case. But don’t you think we can get more info after Norwee Shea, FL have posted? See who they push right?

[Ramcius]

True. I wanted to wait for Pine to post his case. But don’t you think we can get more info after Norwee Shea, FL have posted? See who they push right?

It's not like we can elim someone - we need 4 votes

I'd be surprised, if FL and TSQ would push something else than me/Norwee team, but I'm wondering what Norwee will say now, maybe he'll call us a scumteam

[Nancy Drew 39]

True. I wanted to wait for Pine to post his case. But don’t you think we can get more info after Norwee Shea, FL have posted? See who they push right?

It's not like we can elim someone - we need 4 votes

I'd be surprised, if FL and TSQ would push something else than me/Norwee team, but I'm wondering what Norwee will say now, maybe he'll call us a scumteam

You and me? I seriously doubt that because I would then know Norwee’s lockscum because jjh has never wrongly read me, so very much doubt that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Um, why no one talking? Anyway, anyone still doubt it's FL and TSQ? FL flipped on me and Pine, TSQ came up with me + Norwee team, it's obvious that they want to get either of us miselim'ed in ELO now

You flipped on me, don’t try and act like it was the other way around.

Norwegian/Status
Norwegian/Ramcius

[Nancy Drew 39]

I wonder why we’re the only ones who’ve posted.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Um, why no one talking? Anyway, anyone still doubt it's FL and TSQ? FL flipped on me and Pine, TSQ came up with me + Norwee team, it's obvious that they want to get either of us miselim'ed in ELO now

You flipped on me, don’t try and act like it was the other way around.

Norwegian/Status
Norwegian/Ramcius

So, you obviously think Norwee is lockscum from this.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, it’s always Norwegian here

[Flavor Leaf]

I think I’m leaning Norwegian/Status over Norwegian/Ramcius, though.

Ramcius looks more setup right now than Status.

[Flavor Leaf]

Really the scummiest thing Ramcius has done was turn on me, and switch pressure at the end of the last 2 days.

Also, him bringing up the Zoraster thing now for the first time is kinda off

[Flavor Leaf]

Nancy, Norwegian, Ramcius the only 3 unflipped on the TGP wagon

If we think it’s only 1 on that wagon, it’s Norwegian, with status scum.

If we think 2, then Norwegian/Ramcius.

Mistyx died over Nancy likely because of the PR, or i guess Nancy had wrong reads scum wanted to abuse.

Nancy was saying Norwegian/FL scum team, so that’s kinda 50/50.

Norwegian probably is able to win that 50-50 too here

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think I’m leaning Norwegian/Status over Norwegian/Ramcius, though.

Ramcius looks more setup right now than Status.

They were very obviously not interested in limming Pine, so they’re the least likely of the unconfirmed to be scum here fmpov.

Jjh insisted that Pine’s role was faked.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, Norwegian, Ramcius the only 3 unflipped on the TGP wagon

If we think it’s only 1 on that wagon, it’s Norwegian, with status scum.

If we think 2, then Norwegian/Ramcius.

Mistyx died over Nancy likely because of the PR, or i guess Nancy had wrong reads scum wanted to abuse.

Nancy was saying Norwegian/FL scum team, so that’s kinda 50/50.

Norwegian probably is able to win that 50-50 too here

Norwee made it abundantly clear that Misty would be the NK. You were leashed to Akarin and obviously scum feared her venge, so she was obviously seen as a bigger threat for that reason.

[Flavor Leaf]

By the end of it, I was like 70% sure Pine was gonna flip scum.

But this means we get to trust Dannfloor’s case from earlier as 100% coming from town

[Flavor Leaf]

Nancy, Norwegian, Ramcius the only 3 unflipped on the TGP wagon

If we think it’s only 1 on that wagon, it’s Norwegian, with status scum.

If we think 2, then Norwegian/Ramcius.

Mistyx died over Nancy likely because of the PR, or i guess Nancy had wrong reads scum wanted to abuse.

Nancy was saying Norwegian/FL scum team, so that’s kinda 50/50.

Norwegian probably is able to win that 50-50 too here

Norwee made it abundantly clear that Misty would be the NK. You were leashed to Akarin and obviously scum feared her venge, so she was obviously seen as a bigger threat for that reason.

Yeah, I’m not questioning it, however I don’t care at all if Norwegian made it abundantly clear, because I do think it was also the obvious kill.

I almost went to doctor then tbh

[Nancy Drew 39]

By the end of it, I was like 70% sure Pine was gonna flip scum.

But this means we get to trust Dannfloor’s case from earlier as 100% coming from town

He sounded a lot more earnest here than he did in F L v Hectic with his read on me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, i just hated that turn on me by Ramcius and Pine.

Pine was still the 2nd best fade yesterday, though, and I can rest a little easier now.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ramcius is next if this flips scum.

Hmmmm . . .

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve been in an state of depression ever since daystart but i’ll post to state my current thoughts. The flip on Pine made me re-evaluate strongly 3 remaining slots in this game, Flavour Leaf, Ramcius and TSQ. First of all, my read on TSQ was made way too hastily and knowing now that an elimination sequence of me/Pine would be an gamewinning one for scum means slots that were siding with me yesterday are most definitely not cleared as town. Thinking about TSQ's actions so far with the information i now have, i do not find them town indicative. When considering Ramcius i realize that his actions yesterday go against what i now know was the likely scum strategy, to egg on the 1v1 between me and Pine while scum stands on either side. It is this i now see as the reason behind FL turning on Pine yesterday. I think what FL saw is that Pine was starting to consider me being town and thus FL concluded Pine was now becoming a threat that would turn the gamestate away from the Norwee/Pine dichotomy. FL, long story short i do think this Pine flip makes him scum. I’ll elaborate more on it later but i don’t feel like having a long argument with FL right now so i’ll leave my thought process behind this conclusion for later. I will come back at an later time and read the posts that’ve been made, but i don’t feel like responding to anything yet. I just want to see how the beginning of this day plays out without me having much of a say in it and then i’ll get more information that is of actual use to me for when i feel more motivated to actually discuss in real time.

[Flavor Leaf]

Norwegian, you spent the entire half end of this day weening and goading me to voting Pine

[Flavor Leaf]

Yesterday*

[Flavor Leaf]

But like I said, no matter what Pine flipped, people were going to push it towards me

[Flavor Leaf]

Ramcius and I are the dedicated misfades for this day phase.