electoral college mafia (now its done watch it go)

[Gypyx]

WooOoooOOoOOo

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Noraa

Exe-2

[Gypyx]

wow much omgus

such counterwagon

[Gypyx]

My favorite tris is here!!!!


VOTE: Gypyx

also holy heck does the one on the right even have pupils (correct word right?)

[Gypyx]

tris probtown

[Gypyx]

also exe-2 is on me right now

[Gypyx]

also exe-2 is on me right now

Pretty sure your bloc isn't actually voting anyone since the plurality is on Not Voting

Unless I've just completely misunderstood how this works.

not voting doesn't count towards plurality, if i understeand it correctly

best to assume it doesn't 'till it's not clarafied anyways Mr. Dog Guy Person

[Gypyx]

noraa will now use the tsutsu account

LOL

[Gypyx]

think the mega group is just schadd's dump for all the players that aren't interesting in any specific way tbh

[Gypyx]

if that were true I'd be in the mega-group

that's what the main character thinks at the start of the book too, yet, you'll grow into a badass superhero once you learn about your secret ancestral spatial elditch comsic occult powers

[Gypyx]

{Vaxkiller, Momrangal, mozamis} is going to be all town because they are going to naturally be inclined to scumread and heavily disagree with each other.

would they disagree only as town?

[Gypyx]

think the mega group is just schadd's dump for all the players that aren't interesting in any specific way tbh

i think being in an 8 block is very interesting. it gives a disproportionate amount of power to the majority in that group.

yeah but like, idk, the majority cannot do much on it's own

[Gypyx]

lean-town on Mastina as well, for the dumbtell Tris pointed out and trying to get us started.

dumbtell?

[Gypyx]

what about this line, mastina?
"i will try not to create any obvious alignment information in these assignments (unless it is very funny)"

Because in this case it is indeed very funny.

When you see what role I have, you'll understand exactly why.

{Vaxkiller, Momrangal, mozamis} is going to be all town because they are going to naturally be inclined to scumread and heavily disagree with each other.

would they disagree only as town?

Hard to say, but there's no evil involved in them disagreeing and infighting with one as scum. That sort of disagreeing and infighting and paranoia and suspicion only qualifies as Evil if they are in fact all town.

eeeeeeh like i dunno, infighting feels evil to me regardless

[Gypyx]

I think mastina is scum

I think I know how to read mastina now. She is town here.

the duality of man

[Gypyx]

1 B's have very low influence

so idk, i'd probably give them to town? or even like, players who usually do a lot of stuff if y'all peoples see what i mean

[Gypyx]

don't like tris's posts, 39, 41, 47 all feel like classic IIOA

VOTE: Tris

tris is very town so could you develop?

[Gypyx]

wait we dont have to vote in our blocks what?

nopity nope

[Gypyx]

don't like tris's posts, 39, 41, 47 all feel like classic IIOA

VOTE: Tris

tris is very town so could you develop?

that's not true VOTE: Gypyx serious vote

how is me being wrong me being scum?

[Gypyx]

I feel like since it would make more sense if they're town, they're gonna be mafia

yea but like idk, apparently schadd avoids making stuff AI, and it's so marginal i doubt we should care

[Gypyx]

don't like tris's posts, 39, 41, 47 all feel like classic IIOA

VOTE: Tris

tris is very town so could you develop?

Every post of hers so far is fluff or IIOA. While the fluff could be written off as early-day posting, the posts I mention feel like an attempt to say something useful to establish a presence in the early-game without having to do anything controversial.

Not enthused by her reaction either, no defense on her part at all, the "good catch" feels defeatist, which I often see coming from scum.

i'd say that scum generally would try to not bother with pushes on em' early, her acknowledging feel very town to the contrary "yeah that's scummy, keep digging if you want, cuz i'm a pure heart of towniness" ya know?

and i'll check out those posts

[Gypyx]

Looking forward to A WAVE OF PURE NONSENSE lol

you're 10 minutes late rabbit boi

[Gypyx]

so worldER

imo, only 41 is really IIOA, and even then, i don't see how it's scummy, like, town also acknoledges obvious stuff ya know

especially given it's early and the game is wild

so ye, to me it's fine, other 2 posts feel like trying to thinking what the consequences of the voting format are

[Gypyx]

i want to know more about your townread on me, gypyx

basically, i like post 12, as that kinda ranting feels like the stuff that town would just randomly say

and just generally the approach to the game, like how you picked at mastina's blocks analysis ya know?

like ur interactions with noraa also

[Gypyx]

don't like tris's posts, 39, 41, 47 all feel like classic IIOA

VOTE: Tris

tris is very town so could you develop?

that's not true VOTE: Gypyx serious vote

how is me being wrong me being scum?

how 'bout you answer the questions of mine tsutsutsutsutsutsutsutsutsu?

[Gypyx]

I townread Xtoxm, quiet, Noraa, Auro, Gypyx, tris, Anya, VFP

jeez, i wonder where you got these reads from

[Gypyx]

don't like tris's posts, 39, 41, 47 all feel like classic IIOA

VOTE: Tris

tris is very town so could you develop?

Every post of hers so far is fluff or IIOA. While the fluff could be written off as early-day posting, the posts I mention feel like an attempt to say something useful to establish a presence in the early-game without having to do anything controversial.

Not enthused by her reaction either, no defense on her part at all, the "good catch" feels defeatist, which I often see coming from scum.

i'd say that scum generally would try to not bother with pushes on em' early, her acknowledging feel very town to the contrary "yeah that's scummy, keep digging if you want, cuz i'm a pure heart of towniness" ya know?

and i'll check out those posts

I guess this is just a matter of different experience, but I also think that scum being aloof to pushes is a common enough tell that scum know to avoid it.

I don't like your exaggerated defense of her in this post, though I guess I didn't phrase things correctly. I guess appeasement would be the better word to use instead of defeatist.

never really thought about how scum avoids triggering tells, so idk on that one

this didn't really feel like appeasment, like, unless i'm misundersteanding?

so worldER

imo, only 41 is really IIOA, and even then, i don't see how it's scummy, like, town also acknoledges obvious stuff ya know

especially given it's early and the game is wild

so ye, to me it's fine, other 2 posts feel like trying to thinking what the consequences of the voting format are

I would argue that if it is an obvious conclusion it is Information and not Analysis.

But even with your thesis, tris didn't develop off those conclusions in any way. It doesn't seem like she used that conclusion to develop any reads on how scum or town would be using the format to control the game, and if she did she didn't communicate them.

In fact the only posts of hers that really communicate to me any effort to draw alignment or communicate her own was her recent posts (83, 84, 85), y'know, after I started pushing her.

are really gonna get anything else than obvious conclusions page 1-5?

and well, idk, she has like 10 posts, and yeah, pushing often leads to peoples getting serious with the game?

not really seeing where's the problem with everything that bein' pointed out

[Gypyx]

anyways, off to sleep, see y'all on page 75

[Gypyx]

not even page 10, are we even playing mafia

[Gypyx]

Spoiler: Quote

don't like tris's posts, 39, 41, 47 all feel like classic IIOA

VOTE: Tris

tris is very town so could you develop?

Every post of hers so far is fluff or IIOA. While the fluff could be written off as early-day posting, the posts I mention feel like an attempt to say something useful to establish a presence in the early-game without having to do anything controversial.

Not enthused by her reaction either, no defense on her part at all, the "good catch" feels defeatist, which I often see coming from scum.

i'd say that scum generally would try to not bother with pushes on em' early, her acknowledging feel very town to the contrary "yeah that's scummy, keep digging if you want, cuz i'm a pure heart of towniness" ya know?

and i'll check out those posts

I guess this is just a matter of different experience, but I also think that scum being aloof to pushes is a common enough tell that scum know to avoid it.

I don't like your exaggerated defense of her in this post, though I guess I didn't phrase things correctly. I guess appeasement would be the better word to use instead of defeatist.

never really thought about how scum avoids triggering tells, so idk on that one

this didn't really feel like appeasment, like, unless i'm misundersteanding?

so worldER

imo, only 41 is really IIOA, and even then, i don't see how it's scummy, like, town also acknoledges obvious stuff ya know

especially given it's early and the game is wild

so ye, to me it's fine, other 2 posts feel like trying to thinking what the consequences of the voting format are

I would argue that if it is an obvious conclusion it is Information and not Analysis.

But even with your thesis, tris didn't develop off those conclusions in any way. It doesn't seem like she used that conclusion to develop any reads on how scum or town would be using the format to control the game, and if she did she didn't communicate them.

In fact the only posts of hers that really communicate to me any effort to draw alignment or communicate her own was her recent posts (83, 84, 85), y'know, after I started pushing her.

are really gonna get anything else than obvious conclusions page 1-5?

and well, idk, she has like 10 posts, and yeah, pushing often leads to peoples getting serious with the game?

not really seeing where's the problem with everything that bein' pointed out

I guess it's a matter of tone more than anything but it feels like she was trying to diffuse my vote by conceding the point like that.

think i've only seen town do that kinda stuff now that i think of it, but it's probably arguing around pointless stuff at that point

[Gypyx]

VOTE: OWER

THE OTHER TWO BETTER NOT OVERRIDE THIS

interesting vote / way to present it tbh, feelin' like it's lowkey scummy?

[Gypyx]

I thought that the Blocs switched around every round?

indeed

[Gypyx]

yeah tbh, i feel like scum would want to take ocntrol of their blocs if possible and someone who stokes tvt bloc infighting should absolutely get a paddlin'

- scum has an optimal way to play the game

- peoples who don't play that way are suspicious

[Gypyx]

i mean optimal isn't the best term but whatever you see my point Bug person

[Gypyx]

No. I'm going to have VANILLA ice cream by myself rather than go to TOWN to party.

Anya and Xtoxm are town, sweet! Gypyx probably too, let me review that.

could you give a percentage on that Xtomxm read? cuz like, dude only got 1 post lol

[Gypyx]

It's rare outside of a Noob game to find someone outrageously scummy in the first few pages.

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Momrangal

don't see mozamis being scum tbh

[Gypyx]

oh noes a pgo

better unvote before the role actually gets into the list of roles accepted in normal games

[Gypyx]

Spoiler:

oops my bad, sorry for forcing you to out

[Gypyx]

You gotta roll scum at some point, right?

Gambler's fallacy

VOTE: flow trap
(not that it matters as I am paired with scum)
I'm quite liking my "paired with two scum" theory.

I am a dummy dum dum for some reason I misremember flow trap as being in my group of three.

VOTE: bugspray

But that said I think that flow trap might be scum here.

how is poiting out a wrong point something scum to do?

[Gypyx]

Also, that's real cute gypx. Why are you so terrified that you are trying to disprove that my role cannot exisr

Pedit:. Ew....

Pedur: STIP POOSTING

better question is, why are you so terriried of my vote that you are trying to deflect it with a role that doesn't exist

[Gypyx]

auro / mom feel like scum tbh

[Gypyx]

Reflexive
Vigilante
Jailkeeper
All normal.

It's a good thing you claimed this since I was fully intending to target you N1 and would've accidentally suicided myself in having done so causing us to be down a conftown.

(I buy it, btw.)

the NRG ladies and gentelmen

[Gypyx]

what the actual fuck is this game already lol

[Gypyx]

auro / mom feel like scum tbh

Ummm I'm obvtown

stop defending obvscum then boi

[Gypyx]

the NRG ladies and gentelmen

Hey I already derped by thinking a player who isn't in my bloc was in my bloc, it should come as no surprise that I then derped by forgetting that Reflexive isn't a whitelisted modifier. (I assure you that if this were a review I would catch that but as a player I am not fully firing on all cylinders.)

However, I maintain that Momrangal's probably town here anyway, because I have a ~suspicion~ here. Momrangal's claimed Reflexive role can't be true due to Reflexive not being whitelisted, but I think I know what role she might ACTUALLY be softing through the fakeclaim. (Basically, there's two worlds: a botched fakeclaim from scum or a fakeclaim as town that serves as a soft for the real town role; I am assuming the latter.)

I don't really like how you keep pushing that even after it was stated that blocs are NAI

Where was that stated? Because I'm pretty sure the mod stated literally the opposite in fact.

how is poiting out a wrong point something scum to do?

It's not the pointing out a wrong point that makes it scum, it's the content posted in there which makes it scum.

yeah i get it, just felt like poking at you

and idk, that just completely defies the concept of softing in my opinion? heck, even if this were a soft, it feels like coming from scum given the timing of it, as a PGO would wanna claim early, not upon the first vote for who knows what reason

and i don't get you answer on flow trap

[Gypyx]

hey gypyx, could you spoiler your obnoxious oversized images? thanks.

rude

but ok will do, sorry if that was annoying or anything

@schadd_ could you spoiler the previous images i posted? sorry about that

[Gypyx]

don't like vax's posts so far tbh

like, he's just trying to appear active

[Gypyx]

I TRIED SO HARD

I GOT SO FAR

BUT IN THE END

I JUST WANT 100PPP

what's 100ppp?

[Gypyx]

shitclaiming under minimal pressure seems to be Mom's towngame so I'll let it go for now, my choice for EOD policy though.

Mozami's stuff is definitely something scum could fake but I'm not entirely convinced is fake. Throwing out a lot of reads but is being more of a passive observer than actually trying to engage and extract. Wagon is alright but probably won't be putting my vote there until I see more.

thing is, it's not shitclaiming there, it's fake claiming, with obvious intent to divert pressure, i just don't see town doing that

[Gypyx]

Gypyx doing the Gypyx thing.

never thought i had a thing tbh

[Gypyx]

not a fan of the flow wagon, it's forming very akwardly

[Gypyx]

I TRIED SO HARD

I GOT SO FAR

BUT IN THE END

I JUST WANT 100PPP

what's 100ppp?

100 posts per page, a setting I use on mafia universe

basically, well... changes the amount of posts you see per page

super useful for not cringing yourself to death at the amount of pages

huh...

that just feels like waaaaaay too much?

[Gypyx]

more like waaay too much not sure about waaaaaay

nah, lowest i can do is waaaay too much, cmon

[Gypyx]

shitclaiming under minimal pressure seems to be Mom's towngame so I'll let it go for now, my choice for EOD policy though.

Mozami's stuff is definitely something scum could fake but I'm not entirely convinced is fake. Throwing out a lot of reads but is being more of a passive observer than actually trying to engage and extract. Wagon is alright but probably won't be putting my vote there until I see more.

thing is, it's not shitclaiming there, it's fake claiming, with obvious intent to divert pressure, i just don't see town doing that

You're not wrong about the double blade that is pressure.

I'm still sticking to my claim!

what does that even mean lmao

[Gypyx]

I'm not sure if I see flow trap's responses to votes as scum.

But when in Rome
VOTE: Flow trap

really hate that vote, and rest of the ISO is also devoid of good content, do peoples wanna wagon this?

VOTE: VFP

[Gypyx]

I claim combined Vigilante Doctor

bruh

[Gypyx]

i feel really good about the wagon diversity, chances are we're going to going to create a lot of good associative read material today

pedit @gygpx yeah i wanna wagon it
jic i didnt vote already
VOTE: flow trap

ain't the voted i asked for though spray person

[Gypyx]

@MOD: so group 1 aren't "voting", until their last two members vote, even though that cannot affect the groups vote?

nah, we're using majority voting, but at deadline, it changes to plurality basically

[Gypyx]

Tris can be town. That's some serious effort to track that. (Yes I'm aware effort does not mean town.)

It would be more effort if the VC wasn't on the same page.

Disagree. I only skimmed the VC, assuming - wrongly - that it looked ok.

The difference being you wasn't looking to see how close.
I looked, I know who is in each group, I saw the votes and within a few seconds I knew the situation.

Let's not try and play this off as a high effort move.
Credit for pointing out (depending on the alignment of Flow) but not for high effort.

point isn't about the intent, it's about how there's a town mindset behind said move

[Gypyx]

Please do not he/him or she/her to refer to me without my prior permission. My pronouns are Fae/Faer or They/Them.

*Clears throat and gargles tea* Ahem.

hey btw was wondering, is there any word to call you that replaces Mister / Lady / Sir / Madam or any similar word?

[Gypyx]

@Gypyx: Since you're on, who's scum and why? Quick.. quick.. quick..

Momrangal - bad posts here and there, horrendous fakeclaim and behaviour around it
VFP - surface level activity, shady votes
Auro - lesser SR, but don't like his interactions with mom, should prob go take 'nother look at him

[Gypyx]

you must be mafia to know the number of mafia alive

VOTE: flow trap

1 down 4 to go

feels like a dishonest post, like idk, presenting it as if it was actually a valid argument?

[Gypyx]

Joke, Conditional, Joke, Common Sense, Joke, Joke

I'm JuSt JoKiNg ItS oNlY a PrAnK

Can you not see emojis or something, and do you really think I seriously claimed VigDoc?

could you please stop shitposting? like, it would be pretty fucking cool of you to litterally to anything else, kthxbye

[Gypyx]

Aside from that gypyx is still scummy as fuck but idc enough to engage because he's always scummy as fuck and its annoying but whatever I can't do anything to change that.

think you've only scumread my towngame though lol

[Gypyx]

"Flea is scum because they're playing well" is definitely a new one.

Flea is still a pretty null slot at the moment, they haven't really committed to anything hard outside of a TR and defense of Mom that I don't think carries any agenda.

Flow Trap going back to VFP after Gypyx brought that slot up as a potential counterwagon only continues to assure me FT is scum.

so, you just want peoples under pressure to go on vanity wagons, or is it more develloped than that?

[Gypyx]

I have a lot of trouble believing that since you responded to bugspray's 437 which is only 3 posts above Gypyx's vote and call to wagon VFP.

It seems your very hyper-conscious of both yours and my place in the game-state, considering how fast you are to reply to me and how much of your ISO is trying to buddy up to me.

also just noticed

@mod Gypyx isn't voting himself

I have so much pressure, why would I read something that doesn't apply to me

wtf is that mindset

[Gypyx]

Please do not he/him or she/her to refer to me without my prior permission. My pronouns are Fae/Faer or They/Them.

*Clears throat and gargles tea* Ahem.

hey btw was wondering, is there any word to call you that replaces Mister / Lady / Sir / Madam or any similar word?

Mix is usually the best one (Mx)

so Mx.Flea? alright thx

[Gypyx]

@Gypyx: Since you're on, who's scum and why? Quick.. quick.. quick..

Momrangal - bad posts here and there, horrendous fakeclaim and behaviour around it
VFP - surface level activity, shady votes
Auro - lesser SR, but don't like his interactions with mom, should prob go take 'nother look at him

Thanks <3

Now, reads on Noraa/mastina/tris por favor?

Noraa is being noraa

mastina i dunno, slight townlean given the huge bloc analysis at the start, but lack of further content worries me

tris is very strong town

[Gypyx]

"Flea is scum because they're playing well" is definitely a new one.

Flea is still a pretty null slot at the moment, they haven't really committed to anything hard outside of a TR and defense of Mom that I don't think carries any agenda.

Flow Trap going back to VFP after Gypyx brought that slot up as a potential counterwagon only continues to assure me FT is scum.

so, you just want peoples under pressure to go on vanity wagons, or is it more develloped than that?

Looking at Flow Trap's switch onto VFP he phrases it like it's a read that he's had for a while that he's suddenly reassured of when VFP votes him again. VFP already seems like pretty LHF to me and FT was previously on VFP so on the surface it seems like natural progression but FT's previous vote on VFP was out of nowhere and came after he FT had agreed on scum with another person but didn't follow up on that agreement with a vote or a push.

So to me the VFP push looked like pivoting back to a safe vote after another player brought it up as a potential counterwagon.

idk, his votes feel more "hey yeah there's this dude also, let's go get em'"

see what i mean?

[Gypyx]

well, it'll prob be plurality anyways as deadline is like, 5 days lol

[Gypyx]

aaaaaaaaaaaah literally every effing post is an exercise in breathtaking incompetence in the typing stakes from me.
i blame me paws

use vocal recogition my

dude

rabbit

[Gypyx]

I

AM A

JAILKEEPING

REFLEXIVE VIGILANTE

look i don't care if you're softing, fakeclaiming or whatever, we just know it's not true, and you litterally need to move on

[Gypyx]

GYPYYXXXXXXX

WHY ARE YOU RIDING OWERS COATTAILS

:gypyx_face:

the heck

[Gypyx]

I AM A JAILKEEPING REFLEXIVE VIGILANTE

just... stop please

[Gypyx]

i don't even understeand the question you asked at first

pedit : no, stop okay, we get it, whatever, please like please i don't want to think about relfexive jailkeper pgo thingies abymore

[Gypyx]

the heck

@schadd_ : is there a fixed number of groups?

[Gypyx]

(like, will we have 4 blocks every day?)

[Gypyx]

WOW i have my very own vote today

this is fun

VOTE: Gypyx

foolish mortal

[Gypyx]

the heck

@schadd_ : is there a fixed number of groups?

(like, will we have 4 blocks every day?)

no - on D1 there were 6 for instance

ah alright

i have memory i swear

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Anya

i tried to warn you all flow trap was town but no one would listen

uh you litterally didn't?

also VOTE: VFP

[Gypyx]

you live for now mozamis but your bunny fur will be soaked red with blood by the end of this week

and it's gonna be YOUR blood and not mine to be clear

VOTE: flow trap

LOL

VOTE: Anya

SCUM LOTTERALLY FAKING MESSAGES LMAO

[Gypyx]

what a time to be playing mafia

[Gypyx]

no, you're not going away with "oops all reaction test" lol

[Gypyx]

Let's just retire anya and move on y'all

[Gypyx]

so basically, Anya created a fake message that she presented as something she actually said

and my quote is the actual message she made in post 414

pedit : well, idk, i know it's something i've thought seriously about doing in the past and like, peoples don't *usually* check if quotes are real ya know

[Gypyx]

Tsutsu what do you think about the Anya thingy?

[Gypyx]

what do you mean by "the Anya thing"

are you even reading

[Gypyx]

what do you mean by "the Anya thing"

are you even reading

I didn't read the end of yesterday

i litterally waid why tsutsu's scum

just.. idk, what isn't clear?

[Gypyx]

said why anya*

[Gypyx]

i'll just go to sleep i think, still check MS for some time but i'm tired

[Gypyx]

gypyx you said you were sleeping and lurked off but ur obviously not asleep...
elitell. not scum indicative. just wanna point out

insomnia is hard

[Gypyx]

I like Outworlder's point about Tsutus distancing from Flea. Could be good catch.
Fos: Ttustsus

Gypx vs Anya - I still like Gyp for town. Aya could be town too tho. She said she thouht Flow was town, then changed her mind. Didn't see her "making up posts". Prob. both town.

ugh i should go to sleep but like...

DUDE

she litterally DIDN'T say the post she quoted, like, it's bullshit

and yet everyone is ignorring me

[Gypyx]

like, all his suspicions just seem to be based on catching someone in a lie. it's so surface level

well, it's a freaking *lie*?

like idk, y'all are just letting her walk away with that and i just don't get it?

[Gypyx]

if people click on p414 they will see Gyp's point
altho in the end i cant really see scum doint this

well idk, thing is that yes, it's kinda weird for scum to do so, but i just don't see to town doing that at all?

[Gypyx]

like idk, Anya doesn't even try right now

[Gypyx]

ok, still haven't re-examined "yesterday",but based on todays postigs, I'd say everyone town apart from Flea, who had NOTHING to say about A LOT of content. Classic problem for scum because of course they don't really HAVE anything to say.
INTENT TO VOTE FLEA.

Town: Moz, Gyp, Out, Anya, Tsu, Mastina.
Null/scum: everyone else.

don't be so careful about your vote man

[Gypyx]

yo, the new chrome interface on mobile is garbage

[Gypyx]

Hi, I have read most of the game.

Hold up... who claimed what? (No, not fishing just confused becuase I saw someon mention a claim
)

Let me help you out a bit here, since a chuck of the game was about this claim.

Actually

Gonna hard claim pgo protective.

Have fun with it

Either not paying attention to the game but trying to play it off as caught up. Scum/Town
Knew the claim from scum talk, playing off to look town for not knowing. Scum

Not in your favour here.

What's your reads right now?

what does the secone part even mean?

[Gypyx]

Putting Noraa into my suspect list. Looking at her ISO it's very thin.

LOL

maybe stop posting on your other account and confusing the hell out of me?!
I have been in large normals before, and my experience is that IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL FOR TOWN TO PLAY A SIMPLE, TRANSPARENT NON CONFUSING Game.
nO FAKE CLAIMS. nO ALTS. nO MESSING AROUND.
THE ODDS ARE STACKE D AGAINST US IN THIS GAME, ITS BASTARD,IT'S A LaRGE.
sO IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR TOWN TO PLAY IT STRaIGHT.

sorry about the caps i can't be arsed to change them

yeah exactly, this is a bastard game, i (and a lot of other peoples i'm sure) signed up expecting some messing around, not hard focus on "playing it straight"

that's a townpost though

[Gypyx]

Ilisting me twice in a reads list which tells me these reads are fabricated

uh, what

also i don't get how throwing out townreads is suspicious

[Gypyx]

I have to effort large games otherwise there'd be me, Anya, Auro, VFP and T3 just shitposting lol

and before you pull up DC I was WAY outta my league in that one, it was my first large lol

hey, can i be part of the shitposting guys too ples

[Gypyx]

mozamis has been willing to contrbute, VFP hasn't. That ppretty much sums up my reads on this. I'm like 75% sure there is a mafia between them. VOTE: VFP

What makes you think we can't be S v S here?
The problem with aiming for a T v S, and even more so giving a % showing doubt is that it gives you an out.
This can be considered as what scum do.

You have volunteed for me to look at first, so thank you, I'll get onto this now.

deflecting the real point made about him

[Gypyx]

Oh dear lord. You are either the worst town in this entire set or you're scum. And I'm not willing to give you a pass because your join date makes you an old man

I may be a "pain in the arse" but my play has never been worse than whatever you're doing right now especially if you're town. If you're scum, it's better but ur still playing really badly for scum.

STFU. I'm trying really hard. I'm making a lot of effort. At the end of the game we will compare results. I'll back my town game over your laughable lackdaisical nonsense any day. All we've got from you is that you really liked Mom and laughing at my posts. Maybe start trying to find scum?
Please start trying, your almost certainly town.
I have narrowed the game down to eight suspects. If we see something comparable from you, that would help.
Sort it out and drop the rudeness.
Look at my previous games. I consistently nail scum time after time after time.
Nuff' said.

let's not get toxic there please

[Gypyx]

Spoiler: Why so many, would have to pay...

I like Outworlder's point about Tsutus distancing from Flea. Could be good catch.

Yeah, bin this. It seems likely that Tsu just likes Mom.

... Mom flipped town, and if you didn't notice, Mom and Nora and quite friendly to each other.

hah broke it.

why the Outworlder vote?

Read the post, maybe you'll see why

ok, still haven't re-examined "yesterday",but based on todays postigs, I'd say everyone town apart from Flea, who had NOTHING to say about A LOT of content. Classic problem for scum because of course they don't really HAVE anything to say.
INTENT TO VOTE FLEA.

Town: Moz, Gyp, Out, Anya, Tsu, Mastina.
Null/scum: everyone else.

Depends how closely you look Theres always content in my spoiler walls you just gotta find it

Also

*ahemahemahem...*

Classic scumtell, failing to form any sort of detailed reads yet happy to not cause waves by giving out many townreads for free, and then attempting to focus down on player who is here just for the shiggles pretty much.

See two can play this game. Ooo your turn! Lets see who get make the biggest BS reason for voting, amma warn you, I'm good at this :3

Although I have found that scum are not normally in the"so inactive about to be replaced lurkers", but in that bottom third area.
Like in this game, you'd think Vax is town, because his post count is SO low that he coud get PolicyELimin.
But the blendylurkers...Flea, VFP,maybe Len.
I think we should focus on Flea and VFP.
Otherwise it will be the usual T vs T shitstorm

...
Yeah OK you win. This is BS I can't beat. Some of us have LIVES you know. Monday: CyberpunkRed, Tuesdays: CBT, Wednesdays: Scripting, Thursdays: Rest, Fridays: DnD, Saturday: DnD, Sunday: DnD. This isnt even going into MH Episodes and pain flares And other games I have on going, trying to make some weird ass setups of my own.

Amma give you a pass for now because frankly its hilarious that people always pull me on this. But seriously, if thats your hunting method, I'm tempted to just policy-lurk all games I share with you.

for real though, i think gypyx is scum

How come?

So I am only voting Today in:
Flea
Vaxkiller
Xtotm
Bugspray
Almost
Auro
VFP
Len
Randy

(Tris? she seemed town yesterday but nothing today. Prob town?)
So only 10 to go lol
Fck me this game is tricky.

Good attempt at trying to look busy.

Spoiler: For one man, to stand his way.

like, all his suspicions just seem to be based on catching someone in a lie. it's so surface level

Oh ok. Not seeing it myself but will keep an eye on it.

Although, if we discount Tris as a scum target, and guess that there are 5 anti town roles, we have over fifty per cent chance of hitting scum if we stick to that list.

Look at me doing maths woohoo!

OK this stinks of a fake slip attempt.

I will happily move my vote here or OutworldER

Although, if we discount Tris as a scum target, and guess that there are 5 anti town roles, we have over fifty per cent chance of hitting scum if we stick to that list.

Look at me doing maths woohoo!

there are 4 mafs in this game and 15 town

This setup, as said many times, is at its core a 19p normal with a 15:4 distribution.

A little surprised at the kill, who in this list is familiar with Momrangal? T

If it wasnt obvious already, I am and Tsutsu is.

"reiterating here that it is 15:4"
sorry it was there in black and white.
still, four out of nine...

is this a real townslip?

no... no it is not. Look at everything around it, it honks more than The GoOsE.

"reiterating here that it is 15:4"
sorry it was there in black and white.
still, four out of nine...

is this a real townslip?

that shit is easy as hell to fake. I knew how to do it in my first game on site. I assure a 2011 join date can do it lol

wait, Noraa is in this game too O.O!!

Spoiler: Why so often we are denied, primacy of one over others.

oh cool

well 4 to go since flow trap flipped wolf

Just roll with it xD

can we like collectively get our shit together? the sheer variety of wagons yesterday means that its really likely we were on the right track assuming they were random but the thing is they fucking weren't
i'm 1000% certain that one of the wagons that got close was on scum and then basically scum managed to create flow trap as a very sucessful counterwagon. flow trap had to have been a scum driven wagon

OOOOO I CAN FEED THE FAERIE COLOUR MACHINE!

moz fits that bill the best.

Hmmm... We shall see!

hey ummm flea, suggestion, maybe include the name of the players you're quoting in the spoiler titles? cuz like, digging through all that ain't the most fun thing in the world ya know

[Gypyx]

Fellow Mason, tris, who do we wanna vote for
VOTE: Tsutsu

interesting vote, care to explain why?

[Gypyx]

You're literally pulling so many noob scum tells that I'm laughing. I literally can't imagine how someone with that join date would have a scum game that looks like

this

but like town doesn't throw random shit around like that

i'd really appreciate you explaining those tells instead of going "you're scum yeah look, how scummy, such a scummy scum scum scum" ?

[Gypyx]

anyways, Anya is litterally lolcatting rn, and y'all are letting her get away with it without a single care in the world

like, just compare the content on day 1 and day 2, there's not a single thought that's game related in the ISO

she litterally *self-votes* just "oh noes me vote has no weight bdtter VOTE: Gypyx" and like, how fucking convinient is that to avoid VCA

VOTE: mozamis

i think this is L1

and just... tell me what kind of town does That

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Anya

also all that being ignored feels like a pain in the ass ngl

i'd be willing to get on VFP / Vax otherwise

[Gypyx]

Ilisting me twice in a reads list which tells me these reads are fabricated

uh, what

also i don't get how throwing out townreads is suspicious

I was listed as town and scum, that wasn't a C+P reads list. That was built as he was thinking

well yeah exactly, built as he was thinking, scum rarely makes that kind of mistake as their thoughts are fabricated, they *know* what to think

I have to effort large games otherwise there'd be me, Anya, Auro, VFP and T3 just shitposting lol

and before you pull up DC I was WAY outta my league in that one, it was my first large lol

hey, can i be part of the shitposting guys too ples

Aint up to me

rude

Spoiler: Why so many, would have to pay...

I like Outworlder's point about Tsutus distancing from Flea. Could be good catch.

Yeah, bin this. It seems likely that Tsu just likes Mom.

... Mom flipped town, and if you didn't notice, Mom and Nora and quite friendly to each other.

hah broke it.

why the Outworlder vote?

Read the post, maybe you'll see why

ok, still haven't re-examined "yesterday",but based on todays postigs, I'd say everyone town apart from Flea, who had NOTHING to say about A LOT of content. Classic problem for scum sof course they don't really HAVE anything to say.
INTENT TO VOTE FLEA.

Town: Moz, Gyp, Out, Anya, Tsu, Mastina.
Null/scum: everyone else.

Depends how closely you look Theres always content in my spoiler walls you just gotta find it

Also

*ahemahemahem...*

Classic scumtell, failing to form any sort of detailed reads yet happy to not cause waves by giving out many townreads for free, and then attempting to focus down on player who is here just for the shiggles pretty much.

See two can play this game. Ooo your turn! Lets see who get make the biggest BS reason for voting, amma warn you, I'm good at this :3

Although I have found that scum are not normally in the"so inactive about to be replaced lurkers", but in that bottom third area.
Like in this game, you'd think Vax is town, because his post count is SO low that he coud get PolicyELimin.
But the blendylurkers...Flea, VFP,maybe Len.
I think we should focus on Flea and VFP.
Otherwise it will be the usual T vs T shitstorm

...
Yeah OK you win. This is BS I can't beat. Some of us have LIVES you know. Monday: CyberpunkRed, Tuesdays: CBT, Wednesdays: Scripting, Thursdays: Rest, Fridays: DnD, Saturday: DnD, Sunday: DnD. This isnt even going into MH Episodes and pain flares And other games I have on going, trying to make some weird ass setups of my own.

Amma give you a pass for now because frankly its hilarious that people always pull me on this. But seriously, if thats your hunting method, I'm tempted to just policy-lurk all games I share with you.

for real though, i think gypyx is scum

How come?

So I am only voting Today in:
Flea
Vaxkiller
Xtotm
Bugspray
Almost
Auro
VFP
Len
Randy

(Tris? she seemed town yesterday but nothing today. Prob town?)
So only 10 to go lol
Fck me this game is tricky.

Good attempt at trying to look busy.

Spoiler: For one man, to stand his way.

like, all his suspicions just seem to be based on catching someone in a lie. it's so surface level

Oh ok. Not seeing it myself but will keep an eye on it.

Although, if we discount Tris as a scum target, and guess that there are 5 anti town roles, we have over fifty per cent chance of hitting scum if we stick to that list.

Look at me doing maths woohoo!

OK this stinks of a fake slip attempt.

I will happily move my vote here or OutworldER

Although, if we discount Tris as a scum target, and guess that there are 5 anti town roles, we have over fifty per cent chance of hitting scum if we stick to that list.

Look at me doing maths woohoo!

there are 4 mafs in this game and 15 town

This setup, as said many times, is at its core a 19p normal with a 15:4 distribution.

A little surprised at the kill, who in this list is familiar with Momrangal? T

If it wasnt obvious already, I am and Tsutsu is.

"reiterating here that it is 15:4"
sorry it was there in black and white.
still, four out of nine...

is this a real townslip?

no... no it is not. Look at everything around it, it honks more than The GoOsE.

"reiterating here that it is 15:4"
sorry it was there in black and white.
still, four out of nine...

is this a real townslip?

that shit is easy as hell to fake. I knew how to do it in my first game on site. I assure a 2011 join date can do it lol

wait, Noraa is in this game too O.O!!

Spoiler: Why so often we are denied, primacy of one over others.

oh cool

well 4 to go since flow trap flipped wolf

Just roll with it xD

can we like collectively get our shit together? the sheer variety of wagons yesterday means that its really likely we were on the right track assuming they were random but the thing is they fucking weren't
i'm 1000% certain that one of the wagons that got close was on scum and then basically scum managed to create flow trap as a very sucessful counterwagon. flow trap had to have been a scum driven wagon

OOOOO I CAN FEED THE FAERIE COLOUR MACHINE!

moz fits that bill the best.

Hmmm... We shall see!

hey ummm flea, suggestion, maybe include the name of the players you're quoting in the spoiler titles? cuz like, digging through all that ain't the most fun thing in the world ya know

you think reading to catch up when ya'll nerds drop multiple pages when I decide to go sleep is? Nah, I gotta suffer, you gotta suffer.

[/quote]

more like, you gotta suffer, and i gotta skip these walls outta laziness

[Gypyx]

Fellow Mason, tris, who do we wanna vote for
VOTE: Tsutsu

interesting vote, care to explain why?

Tsutsu's confidence in her posts doesn't seem to square with her own play, and feels a little exaggerated? Almost like she's overdoing something that she knows she usually does as town.

aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?

Will review this after the weekend, it's fine I think but the game needs way more spice

Who do you think the Minion is??

Maybe this time the turntables

i mean, yeah kinda, get what you're saying, but the thing is, noraa (tsutsu) said that she won't follow her traditional playstyle of being highly emotional (which she kinda is tbf) so it seems pretty fucking weird to me that she would drop one of the major aspects of her playstyle only to fake another (more minor) one

[Gypyx]

i mean, yeah kinda, get what you're saying, but the thing is, noraa (tsutsu) said that she won't follow her traditional playstyle of being highly emotional (which she kinda is tbf) so it seems pretty fucking weird to me that she would drop one of the major aspects of her playstyle only to fake another (more minor) one

Well, from her perspective maybe she's faking the

confidence

and not the emotion?
Mastina, why is Tsutsu town?

uh, don't get what you mean? Also mom is a weird kill coming from scum!tsursu

[Gypyx]

Vax looks like bored wolf

interesting take considering that vax hasn't even made posts inbetween

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Anya

sorry not sorry

interesting that you didn't hit her with it the first time

[Gypyx]

;

[Gypyx]

i didnt ignore you wat
have i not sufficiently engaged you on this
your vote is terrible
you should feel terrible
i'll fight you

oh yeah right, like, 3 players out of 17 are acknowledging what anya is doing right now, this is absolutely perfect

and Anya is scum, you didn't said much more than "scum!anya isn't *that bad" iirc?

[Gypyx]

Also mom is a weird kill coming from scum!tsursu

This would be a much better take if there was only 1 scum.

i meant : pretty sure Tsutsu would oppose to it fairly heavily even if it was a buddy of her calling the shot

[Gypyx]

she litterally *self-votes* just "oh noes me vote has no weight bdtter VOTE: Gypyx" and like, how fucking convinient is that to avoid VCA

? she didn't choose to have no vote.

yes she didn't????????

that not the point ?

[Gypyx]

anyways, i'll trust mastina's read on vax

VOTE: VFP

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Anya

also all that being ignored feels like a pain in the ass ngl

i'd be willing to get on VFP / Vax otherwise

Can you show me your case on my 7 posts?

Was it my "ugh" post that sold me as scum for you?

well, mostly post 1 felt weirdly nitpicky, and post 2 is pretty artifically crafted, you see what i mean?

also your "ugh" and "eh" have some *ostensively showing that i'm an exhausted town i swear* vibes

but as i said, i'll wait to see what more you got

[Gypyx]

So I have a theory and OutWorldER, Tris, Anya, and Auro are all town.
If there is a scum in there it is Tris. But probably all town.

why so specific?

[Gypyx]

huh

[Gypyx]

aaaah okay

[Gypyx]

wait a minute because moza has the most votes doesnt htat mean all 13 votes from the group go onto the bunny?
wait whoever voted first in that group was hammer???
what the fuck is going ong

we're using majority, not plurality, plurality only takes effect if we reach deadline

[Gypyx]

kinda surprise that you didn't understeand that yet ngl

[Gypyx]

wtf are y'all on

GROUP 3

Anya (1):

Anya

GROUP 4

Anya (1):

OutWorldER

i see Anya has mastered the art of duplication

[Gypyx]

oh yeah right, i forgot we were using plurality on rain days

[Gypyx]

darn it

[Gypyx]

7 to hammer the big bois block

you're at 4 currently

[Gypyx]

Preliminary solve: 3 Scums in mastina/Gypyx/Vax

Thank you for your time

Id vote gypx. If mastina still alive in the later days... typically scum. But somehow im scum with them.

vote me then dude

[Gypyx]

also this has weird planning a lim vibes

[Gypyx]

i don't even know what to think of that mozamis case anymore

[Gypyx]

i don't even know what to think of that mozamis case anymore

It should show you that anya is town if nothing else.

how is that shitposting AI?

also it makes me TR mozams slightly higher tbh

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Vax

yet another opportunistic vote from ViolentFinnishPizza

[Gypyx]

Mastina loves to talk about her reads as town. Her posts here feel a little... non-committal and empty compared to what I've usually seen from town!Mastina.

Take a 1-minute skim of her ISO, would you still say there's not much of a difference from the last game you've seen of her?

disagree on that one, she's actually trying to solve what the blocs means alignement-wise, which is very town-motivated imo

and heck, I don't see how she's not discussing reads even

[Gypyx]

Tsutsu hammered anyway I think

i see you're following VC's even more closely than i do

[Gypyx]

also VFP i'd like a claim

[Gypyx]

Preliminary solve: 3 Scums in mastina/Gypyx/Vax

Thank you for your time

Id vote gypx. If mastina still alive in the later days... typically scum. But somehow im scum with them.

It could be a clash of OS's

OS?

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Vax

yet another opportunistic vote from ViolentFinnishPizza

I was Scum with pizza in the game you modded that has just finished. Are you telling me VFP is a 3-headed hydra??

Spoiler:

[Gypyx]

also VFP i'd like a claim

I'm sure as scum you do.

i'll take that as a no

[Gypyx]

disagree on that one, she's actually trying to solve what the blocs means alignement-wise, which is very town-motivated imo

and heck, I don't see how she's not discussing reads even

Setup speculation is the most obvious thing scum!Mastina would know to fake.

I never said she's not discussing reads, I'm making a comparison to how she does as town.

yeah, ik that setup spec is easy to do as scum, but the way she doeses it (you can really *see* her builidings reads off of that, idk if i'm clear) is very towny

is there a specific way town!mastina discusses read? haven't seen her town meta so y'know

also i think it'll be pretty obvious later on even if she's indeed scum, so not too worried about that reall

[Gypyx]

i'll take that as a no

The fact I'm not even E1 yet and you sit here demanding a claim worries me. But more for what seems to be the site meta now.
I'll claim when I feel like it's beneficial.

That said, my claim shouldn't affect your vote given how you're voting.
If your agenda here is PR gets benefit of the doubt, then stop thinking like that as a whole. Claims are easy to fake.

I think you're just scum here though wanting claims for the night.

well, it's more that plurality is getting closer, and if you're indeed a PR worth avoiding to exe, i'd rather have time to make a good alternative rather than a deadline scramble?

and PRs do get the benefit of the doubt though, and i don't see how that's a problem

[Gypyx]

well, it's more that plurality is getting closer, and if you're indeed a PR worth avoiding to exe, i'd rather have time to make a good alternative rather than a deadline scramble?

and PRs do get the benefit of the doubt though, and i don't see how that's a problem

So if I'm scum I get a free pass of a Lim because I claim PR?
So as scum I claim PR here unless I'm Goon and the alternative is scum PR, right?

maybe, maybe not, you really think i'm gonna tell you what to claim?

don't get the second part

[Gypyx]

maybe, maybe not, you really think i'm gonna tell you what to claim?

don't get the second part

You already did.

I'm saying, if I'm scum the only motivation to not claim PR is if my scum buddy is PR and under fire.

there's not a binary spectrum of PR / vanilla ya know

doctor's a pretty weird claim, that's a lot of protective powee already, what did you mean by "variation"?

also did you crumb

[Gypyx]

Don't vote mozamis until we hear what the adaptation is. I have a theory.

hm. im not sure if I want to believe you but whatever. VFP, claim.

huh wdym, didn't you see his claim?

[Gypyx]

what the fuck does adaptation even mean

[Gypyx]

Also before the night starts I will reveal why I am sure that message last night came from mom.
She called me her darling tsunami
She told me I wouldn't be able to go out tonight
but that I would live to see tomorrow

Mom protected me during night 1 and mom has never read me wrong. Mom was the second person on this site that I respected to the deepest extent because she could read me correctly where no one else could.

thing is... thinking about this, but why jailkeep you if mom thinks you're town

like, no offense but you're never the night 1 kill, so even if mom TRs you, i don't get why the prot, unless it's meant to act as a roleblock

[Gypyx]

what the fuck does adaptation even mean

Something like1-shot bp Cop.

ah, modifiers

[Gypyx]

Also before the night starts I will reveal why I am sure that message last night came from mom.
She called me her darling tsunami
She told me I wouldn't be able to go out tonight
but that I would live to see tomorrow

Mom protected me during night 1 and mom has never read me wrong. Mom was the second person on this site that I respected to the deepest extent because she could read me correctly where no one else could.

thing is... thinking about this, but why jailkeep you if mom thinks you're town

like, no offense but you're never the night 1 kill, so even if mom TRs you, i don't get why the prot, unless it's meant to act as a roleblock

Are you stupid?????

possibly yes

[Gypyx]

So according to smart gypyx, Mom telling me to have sweet dreams, calling me her darling tsunami, telling me I'll be able to see the morning light apparently means she thinks I'm scum. Yes yes cuz that fucking makes sense.

lies are a thing y'know

[Gypyx]

fwiw maybe she didn't even say that?

pedit : well idk i'm thinking stuff, and mailmans can do a lot of stuff, so let's not go down that hole

ppedit : you can't, pretty sure

[Gypyx]

That is a questionable power distribution though...

Odd-night JK Mailman Alien, <something> doc and JK Mailman Alien

Like WTAF are scum packing if these are all town?

i could see the game being based on protection with a mafia strongman / other tbh

[Gypyx]

fwiw maybe she didn't even say that?

pedit : well idk i'm thinking stuff, and mailmans can do a lot of stuff, so let's not go down that hole

ppedit : you can't, pretty sure

I hate playing games with you and this is precisely why.

what's "this"?

[Gypyx]

and idk, i'll re-read mom

but she was in a role gambits mood so think that's a possibility

pedit: i'm not saying mom didn't visit you, i'm question the intent

[Gypyx]

and idk, i'll re-read mom

but she was in a role gambits mood so think that's a possibility

pedit: i'm not saying mom didn't visit you, i'm question the intent

and I don't care because I'm telling you that mom 100% visited me last night and for that alone, I am the most locktown person in this whole damn playerlist

yes but

why would mom even think you're at risk of getting NK'd

[Gypyx]

If VFP doesn't answer soon then I would be okay with hammering VFP(despite the doc claim)

is he at hammer range?

[Gypyx]

yes but

why would mom even think you're at risk of getting NK'd

She doesn't even necessarily have to think that. Perhaps she just wanted to try to work with me.

that's wasting the jailkeep though

[Gypyx]

and like, i'm not in mom's head, but that doesn't seem like something you'd normally wanna do

[Gypyx]

I did say I was at work.
Simple doctor. Only VT and goons.

Wow isn't revealing roles helpful to town?

hmmm, gotta think about this

did you crumb?

[Gypyx]

and idk, i'll re-read mom

but she was in a role gambits mood so think that's a possibility

pedit: i'm not saying mom didn't visit you, i'm question the intent

and I don't care because I'm telling you that mom 100% visited me last night and for that alone, I am the most locktown person in this whole damn playerlist

problem is, you keep calling yourself obvtown every game, so that loses value

pedit : umm, that was hammer i think? if it isn't pls don't hammer

ppedit : VFP, could you make a read list real quick

[Gypyx]

problem is, you keep calling yourself obvtown every game, so that loses value

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean anything because you have never read me right before ... not even once. I very rarely call myself obvtown as scum but I flaunt it as town.

well, just because you say it doesn't mean anything :/

anyways, i think we should both disengage a bit, mind if i ignore you until day 3? no hard feelings, just keeping my head cool

[Gypyx]

When I finish work I will

just throw names really

[Gypyx]

so uh hey, tired af but i'll try to re-read tommorow morning.

today's blocks look neat in terms of reparition ngl

a50, you setup spec looks based on too many moving parts to be reliable imo, you're building conclusions on conclusions on conclusions, i think the problem is pretty obvious right?

[Gypyx]

why did everyone get a red pm today

[Gypyx]

so uh hey, tired af but i'll try to re-read tommorow morning.

today's blocks look neat in terms of reparition ngl

a50, you setup spec looks based on too many moving parts to be reliable imo, you're building conclusions on conclusions on conclusions, i think the problem is pretty obvious right?

TEST .. IT! Just eliminate -say- Vax (the least contributing player alive. Hell. Mathblade already made as many posts as Vax, and he only joined the game today)

Also, ISO Vax and try to come up with a Town!case for him @ANYONE.

yes, i think vax is scummy, but that doesn't explain why your setup spec is right Mr.Monkey, like, statistically, you're gonna get a scum if you name 4 players

[Gypyx]

You said you are a mason. Is this correct? Yes or No.

This is not a question that I see any protown reason to answer at this time.

You said you targeted someone with a power. Is this correct? Yes or No.

Yes, but I know for a fact that N1, I was roleblocked. Given that I know I was roleblocked N1 and that I received a message from someone saying they're an odd-night Alien who targeted me N1, and that Aliens roleblock their target, this checks out.

You said you received a letter. Is this correct? If so yes or no and what did it contain and who from?

I did receive a letter N1. I have stated the contents of the letter. It was NOT from Momrangal; I don't see reason to specify further, given that the sender of the message is, explicitly, a very strong power role whose claim I can at least half-verify. (They claimed to target me with an action that blocks me, I was blocked N1, so at the very least the roleblocking half of the oddnight alien claim is confirmed.)

And lastly have you watched any you tube or musicals recently?

No, I have not.

I think you or this alien are scum due to the one too many PRs problem.

why specifically those two?

[Gypyx]

ok i'll claim i dunno exactly what it does but i'm a loyal messenger

you gotta stop with the obvious lies

[Gypyx]

i'm just a vanilla townie lol

OK, so based on your ISO + this recent stunt I want you limmed AND blacklisted.

(Warning moon logic)
I am thinking Anya might just be a loyal messenger but for scum.

If she was a town loyal messenger then she would want out’s elimination and be screaming so since out never (unless I missed it) claimed to get the thing that would supposedly prove her innocence.

I think scum have a traitor and Anya is a loyal messenger but for scum to find a traitor.
(End moon logic)

Regardless of the right/wrongness of the above I think Anya is scum and I don’t think she posts what she does as VT and if she does then wow.

too bad we litterally have public info of no traitors

i don't like you actually discussing seriously anya's things

[Gypyx]

ok i'll claim i dunno exactly what it does but i'm a loyal messenger

you gotta stop with the obvious lies

Scum PT slip! PT slip!!

Just kidding

you gotta stop with the obvious shitposts

(irony)

[Gypyx]

i have trouble beliving math actually bought that claim from anya not gonna lie

and like, why is he rushing on her now but when she litterally faked messages he didn't move a finger (grated yes he repped in, but cmon, like, he's caught up)

Flea, you think math's push is actually legit?

[Gypyx]

i'm just a vanilla townie lol

OK, so based on your ISO + this recent stunt I want you limmed AND blacklisted.

(Warning moon logic)
I am thinking Anya might just be a loyal messenger but for scum.

If she was a town loyal messenger then she would want out’s elimination and be screaming so since out never (unless I missed it) claimed to get the thing that would supposedly prove her innocence.

I think scum have a traitor and Anya is a loyal messenger but for scum to find a traitor.
(End moon logic)

Regardless of the right/wrongness of the above I think Anya is scum and I don’t think she posts what she does as VT and if she does then wow.

too bad we litterally have public info of no traitors

i don't like you actually discussing seriously anya's things

did... did you miss the part where Anya made a serious claim and outed a PR? Like I need to look at you anyway at some point from yesterdays flip

Anya's claim was the most OBVIOUS fake claim ever, and math instantly claiming is just super fake

he didn't even wait for worldER to like, say if he got a message

[Gypyx]

Given my familiarity with Math I do think it's legit; I still disagree that he should've claimed his full role but I'll pick that up post game. I'm definite on an Anya lim today, though.

ah, could you develop? Especially why he claimed instantly

[Gypyx]

if town thn we know 2 scum.

howww

Anya says she messaged OWER and mathblade. They both claim to have not received messages.

you do know anya fake claimed?
like, i have reasons to belive you're not telling what you really think right now?

[Gypyx]

Anya's claim was the most OBVIOUS fake claim ever

Why so? It was a really specific role... people don't fakeclaim "loyal messenger" for the lulz. o.o

peoples don't claim mafia rolecop for the lulz, and yet

the way she presented it, like, that's not how you out two freaking guilties, and i don't see how it being specific changes anything

[Gypyx]

This isnt Almost's town game at all.
If it weren't for the "Anya debacle" I would say would string up Almost fairly soon.

that's very far from his scum game though

(or what i've seen of it)

[Gypyx]

I pushed Math on that a little and Math's argument was that the claim effectively represented a guilty (even accounting for the presence of a roleblocker, it may be argued that limming the guilty is the optimal move). Instead of waiting for the eventual wagon and blah he just sped up the process and claimed right there. This logic does check out unless you believe Anya's fakeclaim was "obviously a fakeclaim" but I doubt that.

well yeah, that's where our views differ

i don't see how claiming 2-shot tracker actually changes anything from a town PoV? like, guilty's still on you

[Gypyx]

peoples don't claim mafia rolecop for the lulz, and yet

People

don't

claim mafia rolecop for the lulz?
Okay, what are the possible serious reasons one would fakeclaim as mafia rolecop for?

my point is that anya also claimed that, before the mailman shitstorm

[Gypyx]

i don't see how claiming 2-shot tracker actually changes anything from a town PoV? like, guilty's still on you

It's not to

change

anything per se but if it's eventually happening anyway, might as well do it, no?
[I disagree with that too, but I can definitely see how Math has that viewpoint]

i mean, yes, it's a potential viewpoint for town, but i'm way more confident in seeing this come from scum

[Gypyx]

Regarding Anya's fakeclaiming antics: sure, but reading that as an obvious fakeclaim doesn't mean a very specific "loyal messenger" claim under pressure has to be obviously fake, too.

Do you think there's other AI content from Mathblade?

well idk, don't really know how to put it to words, but the way he did it, just feels wrong you know? and like, btw i'd like you to precise your stance, do you think the claim is town indicative or NAI?

i'll need to re-read what math did, but not in the best condition to do it right now, will probably be this night

[Gypyx]

i have trouble beliving math actually bought that claim from anya not gonna lie

and like, why is he rushing on her now but when she litterally faked messages he didn't move a finger (grated yes he repped in, but cmon, like, he's caught up)

Flea, you think math's push is actually legit?

Yeah I do, Math town told BIG in his reaction. to the claim, speaking of...

i'm just a vanilla townie lol

OK, so based on your ISO + this recent stunt I want you limmed AND blacklisted.

(Warning moon logic)
I am thinking Anya might just be a loyal messenger but for scum.

If she was a town loyal messenger then she would want out’s elimination and be screaming so since out never (unless I missed it) claimed to get the thing that would supposedly prove her innocence.

I think scum have a traitor and Anya is a loyal messenger but for scum to find a traitor.
(End moon logic)

Regardless of the right/wrongness of the above I think Anya is scum and I don’t think she posts what she does as VT and if she does then wow.

too bad we litterally have public info of no traitors

i don't like you actually discussing seriously anya's things

did... did you miss the part where Anya made a serious claim and outed a PR? Like I need to look at you anyway at some point from yesterdays flip

Anya's claim was the most OBVIOUS fake claim ever, and math instantly claiming is just super fake

he didn't even wait for worldER to like, say if he got a message

Because the options were lie and say you got a message, which would've been revealed to be BS, or tell the truth which with that claim implies a mechanical guilty.
It wasnt an obvious fake claim, if it was, there would be more weirdness about it, but no. "Loyal Messenger" who has send 2 messages and neither recipient has got one.

Math responded exactly has he should have, and then Anya revealed it was a fake claim. This feels like you got your chainsaw out.

The eternal dilemma of the chaotic... feed Auro coffee or attempt to calm him down...

I'm sigging this after the game

there's weirdness about it because scum is actively making things confused, and guess who suddently makes a big confusing fuss about what's going on ? math (yes because he's been presenting arguments after the claim was revealed as fake like anya still pretended to true claim)

Math deliberately overracted, even if the claim looked real to him, you can't ignore the fact that anya spent the last day entirely shitposting

[Gypyx]

even the smallest of catchups make this obvious tbf

[Gypyx]

yes but, Anya clearly wasn't taking that guilty seriously, like, you don't just go "uuuuuuh, what'z my role guys ?¿¿?¿???¿" and i don't belive she doesn't read her role PM, and i doubt anyone else does

uh, establish motivations and reactions... not sure we are reading the same game here, talking about the guy that throws a claim, and then goes full on tunnel mode

yes, nothing this slot can be taken seriously, why do you say the claim should've been taken seriously then? like what's even the logic

well, you guys aren't making the gamestate more confusing at least ya know

[Gypyx]

i don't belive she doesn't read her role PM, and i doubt anyone else does

o.o
That was still not an obvious fakeclaim

Dayvig: Gypyx

we'll just have to agree to disagree i guess

[Gypyx]

guess i should go back and read again man this is complicated
Still important caveat is tha tthis is BASTARD game so they could both be innocent.
tho gun to head i am more inclined to believe anya than math now.

this is bastard voting mechanic, the setup is 100% otherwise, and math is just overracting to shitposting

[Gypyx]

100% normal*

[Gypyx]

hey, sorry for inactivity y'all, been busy these days, and this game's kinda at the bottom of my priorities currently

rolecop claim is curious to me, but idk, are schadd_ setups THAT wild these days?

[Gypyx]

where scum neighborhood

[Gypyx]

sorry for repping out btw scumteam

[Gypyx]

Subject: electoral college mafia MAFIATE

I think, you will flipped almost certanly.

I don't know what to do with Alien claim. It looks so bad.

sorry for giving you the trash claim enchant lol, think it worked out well though

[Gypyx]

also mastina, ftr i misunderstood your message, i thought it meant "i'll reveal you publically"

my bad on that part xd