TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[The Bulge]

hmmm good question, I think a couple townie sounding posts must have gotten to me earlier this evening, or my train of thought slipped the tracks at some point, because looking back now on the last 8 pages I read before posting earlier, I don't know what to tell you lol. DV's energy around Ari this phase reads to me like town with a confident townread, but I can't find whatever it is that prompted me to remove him from my PoE. I don't think he's scum with Ari, though, with the way they ran the massclaim. I didn't make it clear before but I'm down for an Ydrasse elim, and I haven't done any recent ISOdives or anything but from the events of toDay and what I can remember of earlier in the game, DV/Ydrasse doesn't sound all that improbable.

[Isis]

Votecount 4.5

• Aristophanes (He/Him)
  (1) - Ydrasse
  
• Ydrasse
  (She/Her)
  (3) - Aristophanes, xRECKONERx, DeasVail,
  
• xofelf (They/Them)
  (0)
  
• DeasVail (He/Him)
  (0)
  
• The
  Bulge (Any/Any)
  (0)
  
• Adorable (She/Her)
  (0)
  
• xRECKONERx (He/Him)
  (0)

Not Voting (3): xofelf, The Bulge, Adorable,
With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to make a decision.
(expired on 2021-03-14 02:00:00)

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[xRECKONERx]

hmmm good question, I think a couple townie sounding posts must have gotten to me earlier this evening, or my train of thought slipped the tracks at some point, because looking back now on the last 8 pages I read before posting earlier, I don't know what to tell you lol. DV's energy around Ari this phase reads to me like town with a confident townread, but I can't find whatever it is that prompted me to remove him from my PoE. I don't think he's scum with Ari, though, with the way they ran the massclaim. I didn't make it clear before but I'm down for an Ydrasse elim, and I haven't done any recent ISOdives or anything but from the events of toDay and what I can remember of earlier in the game, DV/Ydrasse doesn't sound all that improbable.

I feel you

I think we just yeet Ydrasse and then run down the list. Ydrasse's flip should clear something up either way though I don't really care what she flips I'm going to support a lim on Ari/DV tomorrow and it'll take a lot to sway me from that

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[The Bulge]

cool cool cool

pleasure playing with y'all

[The Bulge]

yea I'm still comfortable with reck and adorable town. yall have another scumflip to work with so I have faith we pull this win off.

[The Bulge]

good night!

[DeasVail]

Good night

[Aristophanes]

K, that was obviously a scum self hammer so I guess this is tainted now but it still stands.

Bulge, look at my interactions with Ydrasse and the consistent going back to them as scum. Dannflor has been all about Ydrasse scum for a while now and I know you can't see that but still.

Scum don't 1v1 in this situation, they get an ML. Scum don't push the massclaim and then forget their partner didn't claim. If you look at out interactions throughout the game I'm positive we are an easy non-team pairing. Pushing the lim today should be more than enough evidence were not paired.

Let's win this tomorrow!

[The Bulge]

ftr I do not think the 1v1 clears ari, especially not with that self hammer

[The Bulge]

ari, I'd like to hear why you think Ari/Ydrasse is an impossible team fmpov? is it just the events of this day phase?

are you asking ari why he's not scum with ydrasse or is this a typo

from my point of view. in 2739 he says: "I don't think Ari/Ydrasse would be viable in any context". I want him to go into specific detail about why that is.

[Aristophanes]

I think there's a lot more to it than that but I was on my way to work and expect a threadlock soon so I put down what I could off the top of my head.

If you look back I think were one of the most obvious non-pairings bjt I see why my saying this post self-hammer is not really doing anything for you. Also me making this case is pretty ??? Anyway so I didn't expect it to do anything for you.

[xofelf]

Oh well, I was going to vote when I woke up, seems I didn't need to. Anything else to get out before tomorrow?

[Aristophanes]

Not really lol

[xRECKONERx]

Well ok then

[Isis]

Votecount 4.6

• Aristophanes (He/Him)
  (1) - Ydrasse
  
• Ydrasse
  (She/Her)
  (4) - Aristophanes, xRECKONERx, DeasVail, Ydrasse
  
• xofelf (They/Them)
  (0)
  
• DeasVail (He/Him)
  (0)
  
• The
  Bulge (Any/Any)
  (0)
  
• Adorable (She/Her)
  (0)
  
• xRECKONERx (He/Him)
  (0)

Not Voting (3): xofelf, The Bulge, Adorable,
With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to make a decision.

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Ydrasse has been eliminated. She was a

Mafia Goon

.

It is now Night 4. Please submit night actions by PM. (expired on 2021-03-15 18:00:00)

[Isis]

Summary

Sirius9121 (deceased

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated Day 2)
Hectic=Augustus Caesar (deceased

Jack of all Trades(Mailman, Psychologist, Mason-Finder, Vanilla Cop)

, killed Night 3)
Aristophanes (alive)
Datisi (deceased

Town Mason

, killed Night 2)
Creature (deceased

Vanilla Townie

, eliminated Day 3)
xofelf (alive)
DeasVail (alive)
Ydrasse,

Mafia Goon

(Eliminated D4)
The Bulge,

Combined Doctor Psychologist

(killed Night 4)
Adorable (alive)
petapan (deceased

Vanilla Townie

, killed Night 1)
xRECKONERx (alive)
RCEnigma <-beeboy (deceased

Mafia Informed

, eliminated Day 1)

Alive:
Aristophanes (alive)
xofelf (alive)
DeasVail (alive)
Adorable (alive)
xRECKONERx (alive)

With five alive, it takes three votes to make a decision.
(expired on 2021-03-30 02:00:00)

[xofelf]

Cool, this is a tomorrow problem. But we expected this. I'd have had more questions if this didn't happen.

Pool for me is still question Adorable/Ari a lot.

[xRECKONERx]

Game 2 ez

[Aristophanes]

I think a lot of us are drained from this weekend but I'll get to this when I can.

I'm hype that we are where we are in this game.

[DeasVail]

Okay I quite strongly believe that Reck is scum.

Approach to Ydrasse-slot:

- Reck consistently throughout the game throws shade at Ydrasse's slot but hardly ever does he actually

do anything

with it.
- He thought Ydrasse was scummy enough to vote for her Day 1. 1187, 1426, 2431 are all posts expressing feels about Ydrasse being scum. BUT in this time there is no actual consideration that Ydrasse may be worth eliminating. He doesn't do anything with this until voting her in the previous day phase when the tide was obviously turning against her. Bringing me too....

Reck's Day 4 play makes no sense as town:

- Notable that in 2706 Reck supports Ydrasse's bad case on Ari. This is despite having thought Ydrasse suspicious for a large portion of the game, and not taking into account the problematic parts of Ydrasse's posting that I brought up in 2701.
- And then Reck just.... votes Ydrasse... because the game seems simple... despite having expressed suspicion of Ari and me. Oh BY THE WAY, what is Reck's read of Adorable anyway. Was it really confident enough for him to willingly just elim Ydrasse because whatevs? Despite seemingly not really thinking her to be scum. Oh here's a quote

Honestly Adorable just kind of evaporated from me as a scum candidate and dropped off my radar at some point. Huh.

Hmmmmm
- And how does Reck go from strongly townreading me early in the game and fighting against my wagons to thinking I'm scum Day 4. It makes the early townread on me feel like posturing, especially with the completely bizarre line of posts that Reck uses to try and convince people that he thinks my posting is weird. Boo-hoo, he can't prove that my reasons for suspecting him are wrong? When can you ever disprove someone's reasons for suspecting you??? (Reck should know this) Why was this a thing?? How has it contributed to a change in read of me?

Lastly, in what world does town-Reck ever think this:

hmmm good question, I think a couple townie sounding posts must have gotten to me earlier this evening, or my train of thought slipped the tracks at some point, because looking back now on the last 8 pages I read before posting earlier, I don't know what to tell you lol. DV's energy around Ari this phase reads to me like town with a confident townread, but I can't find whatever it is that prompted me to remove him from my PoE. I don't think he's scum with Ari, though, with the way they ran the massclaim. I didn't make it clear before but I'm down for an Ydrasse elim, and I haven't done any recent ISOdives or anything but from the events of toDay and what I can remember of earlier in the game, DV/Ydrasse doesn't sound all that improbable.

I feel you

I think we just yeet Ydrasse and then run down the list. Ydrasse's flip should clear something up either way though I don't really care what she flips I'm going to support a lim on Ari/DV tomorrow and it'll take a lot to sway me from that

My slot and Ari's slot had so much interaction with Ydrasse that it couldn't possibly not matter what Ydrasse were to end up flipping. Obviously Ydrasse's alignment was going to have some impact.

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I think I am alone in thinking that reck is scum, but that's okay. I will keep posting about it until he is eliminated, or people say something convincing that doesn't amount to "reck feels town". (though I'll probably keep pushing Reck anyway because he's scum)

[DeasVail]

VOTE: xRECKONERx

[xRECKONERx]

- And then Reck just.... votes Ydrasse... because the game seems simple... despite having expressed suspicion of Ari and me. Oh BY THE WAY, what is Reck's read of Adorable anyway. Was it really confident enough for him to willingly just elim Ydrasse because whatevs? Despite seemingly not really thinking her to be scum. Oh here's a quote

yes, yeeting the three of you wins us the game either way IMO, bulge agreed, so the plan was to just run it down all three of you and call it a game

ofc xof feels you're town and Adorable might not be, I definitely disagree

[Adorable]

On day 1 after RCEnigma fake claimed vig DV and Reckoner both unvoted him and voted Ydrasse. I think it would make more sense for scum to not vote Ydrasse after RCEnigma's fake claim because if Ydrasse did get eliminated on day 1 then that would mean RCEnigma would have been outed on day 2 which would mean the last scum would most likely have to solo for so many days and this makes me think Ari is the last scum because of this. There were some posts Ari made that were really suspicious and I'll do an iso of them when I'm done with work since I'm on my work break right now.

[xRECKONERx]

I did vote Ydrasse D1 which DV left out of his catch up

DV's case is full of giant gaping holes and flat-out false statements or at least logically inconsistent ones but I really don't think it matters because the game seems fairly won. he's either wrong town or scum that we're going to eliminate anyway so I don't care.

Sorta just waiting on xof to chime in about preferred yeet today tbh. If xof would like me to respond to DV's posts I will otherwise I don't see much of a reason to drag the day down in nonsense. Or drag this day on longer than it has to be.

My preferred vote for today would be Aristophanes because on the off chance he is town I'd rather make that mistake now and not in LYLO for obvious reasons. And if Aristophanes is scum then yay game over and we can all check out. Between Ari/DV, I don't care too much. xof you're going to have to talk to me about why Adorable is in your PoE and not DV though if you want an Adorable lim