TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[xRECKONERx]

i've been prodded

[xRECKONERx]

good talk everyone

[Isis]

Votecount 5.1

• Aristophanes (He/Him)
  (0)
  
• xofelf (They/Them)
  (0)
  
• DeasVail (He/Him)
  (0)
  
• Adorable (She/Her)
  (0)
  
• xRECKONERx (He/Him)
  (1) DeasVail

Not Voting (4): xofelf, The Bulge, Adorable, xRECKONERx
With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to make a decision.
(expired on 2021-03-30 02:00:00)

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Implosion has become dirty.

[DeasVail]

I think I’ve made it pretty clear where I stand.

As shocking as it might be, nothing from the last 2 days has changed that

[Aristophanes]

Lol I had to scroll to find this game in my Ego.

I'll do that read I promised.

Uh, I think I'm just a page or two back tbh.

Let's do something tho XD

[DeasVail]

Hey Ari, anything you want to talk about?

[Aristophanes]

Hey DV!

Iunno. I think you are town. I think therefore there is scum in Reck/Adorable.

Honestly I think Reck is the choice today.

I made an early case for them but walked it back and deferred to the team with townreads on him. i think it's maybe that easy tho?

[DeasVail]

I think Reck is the choice today too.

I have pangs of paranoia about you in a “what if Reck is right????” kind of way but I’m holding steady. I think it’s Reck

[DeasVail]

Also is it bad that I’ve never asked my team for reads out of fear that I would disagree with their reads and proceed to ignore them leaving them feel neglected?

[Aristophanes]

I think Reck is the choice today too.

I have pangs of paranoia about you in a “what if Reck is right????” kind of way but I’m holding steady. I think it’s Reck

That's reasonable. I can understand the paranoia.
I wish I could settle it but so be it.

Also is it bad that I’ve never asked my team for reads out of fear that I would disagree with their reads and proceed to ignore them leaving them feel neglected?

LOL This is my biggest weird point with TM. I like having the exrta voices but I both am impressionable and am often set in my ways, which creates an internal conflict if/when they disagree with me. It's even worse when they disagree with each other XD XD

[DeasVail]

Don’t worry, the expression of paranoia was not out of the expectation that you fix it (which I’m sure you gathered). I feel better now that I’ve just gotten those feelings out there.

[Aristophanes]

All good my friend!

I'm prepared to vote Reck today and have he and Adorable vote me. It was pretty much destined to happen from D1.

Xof, I hope you're okay with a tiebreaker and I hope you vote Reck.

I know he could gofor you, DV , but I think voting me gets Adorable's vote and therefore is optimal for him.

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Reck

May as well actually do it.
Sorry my friend.

[DeasVail]

Yeah uh I very much doubt that Reck could swing an elim onto me here.

[xRECKONERx]

VOTE: Aristophanes

ok

[xofelf]

Okay, I finally did it. Only took me... a whole fuckton longer than I wanted it to, but I did read back over what Datisi and I had talked about. And we did talk about Ydrasse and her associations a lot, and we had come to the conclusion that there was no way her interactions with DV would be s/s and that one I'm real confident about. Even if I find her weird, adorable probably is fine too. Reck was also well within the realms of this person is fine, so I think what this comes down to is, Ari my love, I need to know what you are. I think you've been very helpful in a lot of ways, but you could be doing that as scum too, and I think it's more your nature than it is AI at all. Even given *gestures vaguely* everything, I don't think this brand of anything comes from scumReck. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I trust DV to be able to figure it out. He's been analytical enough in trying to sort things out that I think he'll fix whatever mess happens afterwards. Besides, I wanted to yeet Ari a long time ago and just didn't for reasons I don't quite remember.
VOTE: Aristophanes

[Adorable]

My internet was not working and I see I got prodded yesterday. I hope I made it back in time and I'll catch up from where I left off.

[Adorable]

From my iso I made on Ari he has been suspicious which has made me think he is the last scum. DV also made some good points on Reck too. I do remember when there was a wagon on Reck on day 1 Ydrasse did not vote him and I see that she immediately voted beeboy when a wagon started on him and she also immediately voted Ari when there was a wagon on him on day 2 I think it was or was it day 3. I have also been wondering if Ydrasse is a busser. I see myself leaning more on voting Ari and I hope I am right on him being scum.

[DeasVail]

Reck was also well within the realms of this person is fine

I would love to hear more about this

[DeasVail]

especially if I can't stop Ari from going here I will need to know what you like about Reck in order to not turbo-vote him in the next day if it happens.

[DeasVail]

I also think Ari brought up a good point about how him believing Ydrasse had already claimed VT would be strange from a scumbuddy with Ydrasse unless it was a totally coordinated thing between Ari and Ydrasse, which is the sort of thing that I believe happens a lot less often than town will be paranoid that it does.

I think Reck being scum makes the game make a whole lot of sense, because if Reck

were

town, then whoever was scum in the game in the previous day phase would have easily been able to get the elim onto somebody other than Ydrasse imo.

Reck suspected me, so why didn't Ari end up folding to vote for me? (Especially given that I become a much less likely mis-elim after the Ydrasse scumflip) I think Bulge would have voted for me, push come to shove, and then you just need one more vote.

Obviously Reck-scum had much less option to try and elim me because he was the only one really saying it with any kind of confidence, and if Ari, Adorable, Xof are all town who thought I was town, it becomes a lot more difficult to get a vote onto me.

I suspect that a Ydrasse elim only happened the previous day

because

Reck was scum.

[DeasVail]

I feel the most scared that I've felt in a mafia game for a very long time by plugging so hard for Ari-town here. I'm just envisioning an Ari scum-flip where I then feel like an idiot for defending him so hard all game but aaahhh I believe what I believe and I've got to stick to my guns here. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself otherwise

[xofelf]

Idk man, like... Reck is somebody I've been in line with all game in terms of thought processes. Like, we were looking at things in the same way and it doesn't feel like the way he tells someone what they wanna hear, right? I can't exactly explain it. Like, if I am wrong and it's not Ari, then it's you or Reck so I don't necessarily want to stop you from voting him if it's not Ari here, right? I've seen Reck as scum before and when he's been a manipulative lying fuck, he's not giving me those vibes here. This is just how he feels when he's being truthful. Forgetting shit when he's looking over stuff is entirely his brand, and not from a trying to make somebody look bad perspective. I know gut isn't good enough, but I've been unable to doubt Reck!town as my read for him this entire game and there's nothing he's said or done that's really made me need to reconsider. He feels consistent with what I know about him as a person and a player. There's also some stances he's had which just seem so unnecessarily pitbullish for scum to take. Like he hasn't let go of Ari as needing to go, had the stance about Ydrasse flip not changing much for him and those seem risky and not safe to have ya know? Like people are gonna have some questions and even with as slow and weird as this game has been, I just think that's like dumb to do. And Reck rarely plays anything stupid that isn't shitposting, and this isn't shitposting. Does that make sense at all? I've just looked at this game in a good twelve different ways, and every configuration has kept Reck as town. There's a possibility that I have a blindspot when it comes to him, there really is.

I was also looking at what was in my chats with Datisi, and even ducky had reck in the town pool early on. Ceph has too. Just, if he's not, he's doing a damn good job of it. But I just can't see it any other way. Adorable and Ari have always been the two which they could be either depending what you look at. Adorable could just be someone really weird and totally town. Ari could be helping just to keep looking good and keeping attention from him. And he's been in trouble a few times where he's always done just enough to be valuable, ya know? I'm really torn but I've always needed to have information on one of them.

P-Edit: That's honestly completely fair, it really is. And I've been feeling that since this day started, but I'm just not sure how else to look at it. And I wouldn't expect you to do anything but stick to your guns(backing down would make me squint real hard at you actually so <3).

[DeasVail]

Thanks for that xof. It gives me a clearer idea of things.

[xofelf]

It's also not out of the realm of possibility that me being a hedgy indecisive fuck is exactly what was being counted on and why I've always been here when it comes to either Reck or Ari being the last scum. So *heavy shrugs*.

Yeah, you're welcome.