TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[Jake The Wolfie]

I WOULD VENT MORE FRUSTRATION BUT I’M SICK

Vent ya say?

VOTE: Korina

[Jake The Wolfie]

Acutally
UNVOTE:
I just now saw the rest of page 1.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hey Korra, can you denote what feeling you're trying to pass by in your posts? It'll help out a lot.

[Jake The Wolfie]

korina obviously scum and getting bussed by a buddy

what r we waiting for lets go

You're admitting to being scum. Gotcha.

[Jake The Wolfie]

There are 14 town out of a possible 21 players (acc. to the lovely mod <3)

[Jake The Wolfie]

All I'll say is that I'm one of the more fun roles that I made.

Which makes me happy because all of them are fun!

[Jake The Wolfie]

There is a non-zero chance that all the non-town are on Korra'swagon, including Core

[Jake The Wolfie]

We're all scum claims and there's nothing wrong with that

_{i'm not scum}

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: Jake

Be proud of what you are or don't be at all

I'm not scum.

I'm not town either.

[Jake The Wolfie]

[Jake The Wolfie]

I think a dayvig should kill Korina Tbh.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I RETURN FOR THIS ONE POST WHILE I EAT CEREAL AND NOTHING ELSE:

I think a dayvig should kill Korina Tbh.

I THINK A DAYVIG SHOULD KILL MYSELF TOO JAKE FROM STATE FARM

What *are* you, anyway?

[Jake The Wolfie]

ONE OF THE POSTS IN THE GIM THREAD

Dayvigs, I'd recommend not shooting Korina today, until they can prove their role.

[Jake The Wolfie]

All we know is that there are 14 town.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm just happy to be here

Not for long.

VayDig: Magnus V

[Jake The Wolfie]

This is multiballs BTW

Why would you tell us this?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Because it is something i know.

Here are the 3 lines of reasoning I came up with sharing this information as the 3 types of alignment:

Town: It is true information, and it's better for us to be informed. I would disagree with this, but more to the point: it basically invites players to begin quiestioning you about how much you actually do know, which focuses more on mechanics rather than gameplay. It also forces you to play your entire hand.

Anti-Town: You are phishing for a reaction from other players, to see if they are surprised that another anti-town faction exists and to then find and peg them for free town points. You don't necessarily have to be speaking the truth to play this gambit.

Neutral: There are many reasons why you would reveal this information as a Neutral. I can't really say why you would or why you shouldn't have.

[Jake The Wolfie]

o7

yoooooo

I just realized Jake and NDMath I have not played with you since my first newbie game but you two are in the same game now

Was I scoomb in that game?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Ah, right!

[Jake The Wolfie]

jake wheres ur head at rn.

I'm a little skeptical of Vax at the moment. I don't see much pro-town motivation to claiming multiball this early.

[Jake The Wolfie]

just 1 slot?

-koba

You asked for where my head was at, and that was where it was at. Dunno what to tell ya

[Jake The Wolfie]

[Jake The Wolfie]

claims are limited - it'd be a simple matter to see who faked theirs
-koba

"Limited"

Yea, we're only limited to 9900+ roles! Suuuper limiting.

[Jake The Wolfie]

claims are limited - it'd be a simple matter to see who faked theirs
-koba

"Limited"

Yea, we're only limited to 9900+ roles! Suuuper limiting.

you think every player at this table that might have rolled scum is going to read through all of them? plus theres town roles that are literally self clearing if anything, or pseudo self clearing.
-koba

You forget that people can literally claim to be the town version of their scum role and they could probably find justification for it in the thread afterwards.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Korina why are you still writing with a fake chat restriction?

What makes you think it's fake?

[Jake The Wolfie]

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[Jake The Wolfie]

If Korina is town, then they were acting anti-town by trying to start a wagon on themselves.

[Jake The Wolfie]

OPTIMAL DOESN’T EQUAL FUN, BUT YES, THAT’S HOW YOU LIVE AS A SURVIVOR.

Is it fun to get yourself exed D1 as a survivor?

[Jake The Wolfie]

If temporal is doing twilight for 3 days just to spite us, then I might replace out.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Reading his Iso, Jake claiming non-town was definitely serious.

This would be a perfect quote for my sig

[Jake The Wolfie]

Or perhaps it's prioritizing, if you've got a roleblocker who can stay on the not town and you know that you can quickhammer the not town the next day and draw tells based on who jumps on.

Scummy^^^

Being scummy is setting your priorities straight.

If someone is confirmed to be non-town, but a possible town is scummy, we are gonna axe the scummy player because they are anti-town

[Jake The Wolfie]

Or perhaps it's prioritizing, if you've got a roleblocker who can stay on the not town and you know that you can quickhammer the not town the next day and draw tells based on who jumps on.

Scummy^^^

Being scummy is setting your priorities straight.

If someone is confirmed to be non-town, but a possible town is scummy, we are gonna axe the scummy player because they are anti-town

scummy ^^^^

It's easy to throw shit on others when you have a constant diarrhea of bad ideas.

[Jake The Wolfie]

That's 4 scum teams, actually.

Maf/Alt. Maf, WW, Alien, and Cult

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why would you only be V/LA to this game specifically while not being V/LA to other games?

[Jake The Wolfie]

3p is usually denoted by græy, not blue. Blue is typically reserved for Aliens.

[Jake The Wolfie]

PTMB, I think you need someone to offer actual sacrifices to Satan.

*ahem* I happen to have a connection or two with them

[Jake The Wolfie]

so we can see how much sleep we're getting

I'm getting 0 sleep!

[Jake The Wolfie]

PTMB, I think you need someone to offer actual sacrifices to Satan.

*ahem* I happen to have a connection or two with them

this is not that type of cult dude

Oh, I think you misunderstand. There

must

be blood. There can't not be blood.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Oh, I think you misunderstand. There must be blood. There can't not be blood.

That would interfere with our plans to go public via SPAC. The sight of blood would do bad things for the stock price.

Sorry, but there must be blood. The gods demand it. Nothin you can do about it.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Do you think Capitalism does not tend to the needless shedding of blood for profit?

[Jake The Wolfie]

new phon, who dis?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Woah, how did I get to E-2?

That should be a new record low, going from moderately to inches away from death.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Jake, Claim.

I can't, sorry.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Whoever gave Korea and Head-remover a PR, can I please not get one?

Welp, better give guillotina a quote board to use.

I SR:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I TR:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I want to hear more from:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I want reads on
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina
from
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Is a liar:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Is Telling the truth:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Needs to explain wtaf they're doing and sooner rather than later:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Why aren't they dead yet?
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Spam is bad.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why do you think there is a cult to begin with?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Are you only allowed to use pictures of bears?

[Jake The Wolfie]

All I'll say is that I'm one of the more fun roles that I made.

Which makes me happy because all of them are fun!

I'm not scum.

I'm not town either.

Jake, Claim.

I can't, sorry.

Is all of this true?

No.

Some of my roles are downright masochistic.

[Jake The Wolfie]

We really need to kill the cult leader today or we're gunna lose prolly.
They'll just pick up the strongest players and snowball from there.

Why do you personally think there is a Cult Leader?

[Jake The Wolfie]

There is one role that can change another player's alignment that isn't cult.

It's statistically unlikely be that.

Either there's a cult or Korina is lying.
Pick 1.

Why do you think it's unlikely that the [role which can turn non-town into town] turning a non-town into town didn't?

[Jake The Wolfie]

I wonder if we had a dayvig that could shoot Krea

[Jake The Wolfie]

Granting that there is a cult, who would be a prime conversion target?

[Jake The Wolfie]

They think I'm a Vax Machine.

[Jake The Wolfie]

GUILLO WHY THE FUCK WOULD I KNOW WHO WAS CULTED

Assume for the sake of argument that samanatha97's ability gets activated before you as a solo CL and cultist get to convert someone.

You would think that there is no more cult because samanatha97 clearly converted you, but it is still possible that cult exists.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I consider Cult to be a faction

[Jake The Wolfie]

?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Can't say.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Perhaps.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Correct.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Why

did

Rebel Radio

die

Someone killed em

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm not claiming because I *literally* don't know my role.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I was pretty much sent that I have a role, but I just don't know what it is.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I tried targetting someone last night, and they didn't die, so that's fun.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I tried targetting someone last night, and they didn't die, so that's fun.

Why are you like, dragging this out man?
Who did you target. What was your result? In your initial PM did Lich indicate you had an action to use? Or did you just send him a target request?

I targeted Korina. I received nothing. They did not. I did.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Yes. Korina claimed to be a Neutral Survivor, so they would be a good target should I have an ability.

[Jake The Wolfie]

No.

[Jake The Wolfie]

[url=viewtopic.php?p=12044260#p12044260]I'm pretty sure I am this role[/color]

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm pretty sure I am this role[/color]

[url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/vie ... 4260]Oops.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Also if you have no idea what your role is then how come at the start of the game you seemed to know it was one of your roles?

Because one of my roles states that the game mod can create a role for you.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Because searching up my role's name gives no results

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hazy Memory

[Jake The Wolfie]

Supposedly Cute, Particularly Stupid.

[Jake The Wolfie]

does any1 really believe Jake doesn't have a win condition

I might have a wincon, I might not. Most mods are frauds anyway so who the fuck knows?

[Jake The Wolfie]

D1 > 14 town players.
N1 > 3 town deaths
D2 > 11 town players.

Kindly explain to me where the cult has recruited.

Korina in his first post, could not be culted. Korina has stated groupscum cannot be culted.

NKA means jack shit because we all know theres some weird ass roles in this game, and I've already made my move.


My threat assessment is using the information given to me that is confirmed.

Hey if we're worried about cults, why aren;t we worried about arsonists?

Korina is claiming to be turned into town via samantha

[Jake The Wolfie]

completed games

This is an irrelevant distinction.

[Jake The Wolfie]

completed games

This is an irrelevant distinction.

This is more busywork. He's just making it clear he's following site rules

This literally only matters to the mod and no one else. Why would they post it for everyone to see? We literally do not care. No one asked them. They made a post that no one asked them to, and which does nothing for anyone.

Basically, it's a fluffpost

[Jake The Wolfie]

But that was early to mid D1.

Plus no one cares whether or not they are following site rules except for the game mod.

[Jake The Wolfie]

?

[Jake The Wolfie]

I thought we all agreed to.. you know.. kill high-info targets, not someone who literally doesn't know their own damn role.

[Jake The Wolfie]

And by role, I mean the combination or a role and alignment.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Well if TL really did roll Free Space, then your argument is null and void and this game is evermore chaos.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I guess I can try to dayvig someone

Who here wants Korina to die?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Temted to shoot korina for breaking their faked PostR

[Jake The Wolfie]

GG, jester tactics worked.

[Jake The Wolfie]

GG, jester tactics worked.

But on a more serious note, I will not backtrack my claim of not knowing my role or alignment, because I don't. This was a waste of everyone's time, and statistically you were more likely to hit a town than scum with executing me anyway.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Well cursed be you if you didn't believe me.

At the very least executiing me was an unproductive waste of your time with literally 0 information gained from it.

Why would I do this knowingly as scum? To give the rest of my scumteam towncred early on? That is ridiculous. I'd be better off using the factional kill/possible factional convert.

I would clearly be the least powerful scum on my supposed team, assuming I was even on a team.

The only reason why axing me when I am scum would be a good thing is when you know I'm scum and you don't have any other good informative targets, which is false.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hey govenor, can you move my axe onto Guillotine?

I suspect that's why these damned twilights are so long.

[Jake The Wolfie]

If I die, you guys got my legacy.

We don't want a damaged and/or deranged product.

[Jake The Wolfie]

If I die, you guys got my legacy.

We don't want a damaged and/or deranged product.

My legacy is for townies not for useless dead jesters.

If you knew I was a jester, then voting for me was not a smart move on your part.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Guillo, what reason do you have to intentionally give yourself a post restriction?

It's Anti-Town at best, and will make you LHF.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Or, you know, one of them visits you, potentially sacrificing themselves.

[Jake The Wolfie]

@Guillo what happens if the evils have a redirector and redirect a town into you?

[Jake The Wolfie]

@Guillo what happens if the evils have a redirector and redirect a town into you?

What happens if i can sense who redirects players to me?

That is increasingly improbable, along with your next message

The point should be obvious: You should have not outed because the scum will always have the upper hand in information.

So cursed be you for being all high and mighty.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Nope!

[Jake The Wolfie]

Survivor's alignment falls into "Benign Neutral", just like Jester, where their goal isn't explicity to cause game-losing harm to another faction.

A Serial Killer is a "Evil Neutral" where their goal is to explicitly cause another faction (or factions) to lose.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Subject: TemporalLich's Grand Idea - Korina Notes PT

koba, if you're reading this, you genuinely are pissing me off. your play while it makes sense to me, is inherently scummy to me. imagine if i was actually a survivor? how do you think i'd feel knowing i'm going to be elimed because of something i can't control?
your posts at the end were just scummy.
please stop.

survivor wincon=/=town wincon

when will people LEARN that town compatible wincons arent only compatible with town and are also compatible with scum????

The fact that you want to hunt down Neutrals means that they will be less likely to be open about their existence, and will have to lie about being town. Of course there will be neutrals that fuck you over. Too bad. But you shouldn't screw over neutrals that are attempting to form an alliance with the town, or else neutrals in general will be less likely to side with the town, and thus continue the neutral-hate cycle of rejecting them because they might side against us, which causes them to side against us.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Survivor's alignment falls into "Benign Neutral", just like Jester, where their goal isn't explicity to cause game-losing harm to another faction.

A Serial Killer is a "Evil Neutral" where their goal is to explicitly cause another faction (or factions) to lose.

this isn't Town of Salem, explain the wincon of

Benign Neutral

or

Evil Neutral

if you think they are alignments that work here (and considering posting them in the Grand Idea Mafia thread).

A Neutral (or rather, 3rd Party) is the broadest category, encompassing 3 different categories:

Good Neutrals, which must ensure that a specific faction (or rather, person) wins. (Guardian Angel)
Benign Neutrals, which does not care about either side winning, and must execute their own goal. (Survivor)
Evil Neutrals, which must ensure that a specific faction (or all factions) loses. (Arsonist)

[Jake The Wolfie]

Anyway, my philosophy is to let 3p survive on their own for a few days. If you feel especially suspicious of them,

maybe send an investigative on them?

If you're not sure whether or not someone is evil, instead of wasting everyone's time executing them, waste only the time of an investigative role.

Having the mentality that Claiming Neutral is inherently scummy is flawed, as this won't just help you hunt down scum, but will cause many neutral casualties who were innocently claiming to be neutral.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Note that I do not support the mentality that you should overextend your resources to help neutrals, unless you're in desperate need of another ally.

[Jake The Wolfie]

You should be required to make each letter in the role's name a different color.