Micro 1001: Who Needs A Thousand? | The End

[Harley Quinn]

Setup Information

Daystart, Nightless
If a townie is eliminated day 1, they do not get eliminated and are instead given a one-shot compulsive dayvig.
If a mafia member is eliminated day 1, they have to confirm one of the town players as town.
If there is one scum and one town left, it is a scum victory.

Spoiler: Role PMs

Vanilla Townie

Welcome, [Player Name], you are a Vanilla Townie.

Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.
If you are eliminated day 1, you are not eliminated and instead given a one-shot compulsive dayvig.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Mafia Goon

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are a Mafia Goon, along with your partner, [Player Name].
Abilities:

Factional communication: At any time during the game you may talk with your partner here.
If you are eliminated day 1, you must confirm one of the town players as town.

You win when all members of the town have been eliminated or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

I love the mechanics of this.

[Harley Quinn]

Normally these games end by page 5 or 10, but I think we have a spammy enough plist (I assume above is hopkirk?) that we can do better. Can we reach 15 pages? 20? The sky's the limit.

PEdit: VOTE: hopkirk that better?

Are you alt hunting?

[Harley Quinn]

are you toxic or are you just scum

Wtf have I even done that's toxic? This is a preemptive discredit attempt

I think Ydrasse was making a pun of your username.

[Harley Quinn]

Need some help from your buddy to stabilise the thread? Understandable

more like harley basically spells out a lot for me

???

[Harley Quinn]

Harley, I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.

We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of toxic 1v1s and of suffering. You ask, what is our playstyle? I can say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that Sirius can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark of their daychat, lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all OMGUSes, victory, however long and hard the spamposting road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. Let that be realised; no survival for the Who Needs A Thousand Town, no survival for all that the Who Needs A Thousand Town has stood for, no survival for the urge and impulse of the pages, that the villagers will move forward towards its wincon. But I take up my task with buoyancy and hope. I feel sure that our cause will not be suffered to fail among us. At this time I feel entitled to claim the aid of all, and I say, "come then, let us go forward together with our united strength."

Considering I hadn’t yet posted, why is this being directed to me?

[Harley Quinn]

more like harley basically spells out a lot for me

This is very true

What do you think I spell out? @Ydrasse?

[Harley Quinn]

My page 2 solve ftr is Infinity+Harley

We'll see how that holds up after some AtE

VOTE: Toxic Iv1er

I haven’t even posted.

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: harley post pls

I have so you can unvote me now.

[Harley Quinn]

more like harley basically spells out a lot for me

This is very true

What do you think I spell out? @Ydrasse?

You're normally quite easy to read

Are you Hectic?

[Harley Quinn]

more like harley basically spells out a lot for me

This is very true

What do you think I spell out? @Ydrasse?

You're normally quite easy to read

Are you Hectic?

Sorry, shouldn’t be alt hunting here but I’ve only played in one game before and he was the only alt I think? You don’t have to answer this but it would help with my read on you if you were.

[Harley Quinn]

Who is harley?

VOTE: harley post pls

Are you trolling? Maybe I should switch my vote to you?

[Harley Quinn]

Hello, everyone.

Welcome to Micro 1001. I am your host, Sirius9121.

The game is in

Day 1

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Moderated by Sirius9121, backed up by Pookythemagicalbear

Players

Harley Quinn
Infinity 324
Toxic 1v1er
Ydrasse

A · next to their name means they have not confirmed. An asterisk means they have received a prod.

Spoiler: Votecounter Settings

Living Players

Harley Quinn
Infinity 324
Toxic 1v1er
Ydrasse

Dead Players

Links

Day 1: Post #4

Deadline

2021-03-25 14:57:00 +8.00

For some reason I thought this game would have 5 players.

[Harley Quinn]

more like harley basically spells out a lot for me

This is very true

What do you think I spell out? @Ydrasse?

you're pretty obvious with your alignment so if you're town then the team's just toxic + infinity

so i sort you and if you're town i try to get you to work with me if you're scum i have to find the town in the other two which is meh

and i mean, there's always going to be at least 1 scum between inf/toxic but, it's easier if it's both and i don't have to read them bc i have a harder time reading them

Well I like you best so far, so if I can sort you, this game is easy.

[Harley Quinn]

Toxic was towny enough that I think it's just you/ydrasse anyway but sure

UNVOTE:

Based on what?

[Harley Quinn]

I'm pretty Hectic, this is true, but call me Toxi

Actually that makes so much sense now.

[Harley Quinn]

Who is harley?

VOTE: harley post pls

Are you trolling? Maybe I should switch my vote to you?

Wdym, I wanted you to post but didn't know who you were

The game has literally just started but whatever.

[Harley Quinn]

I want to know why you don't townread hectic

Why are you? It seems way too early for anyone to be this confident.

[Harley Quinn]

okay so you saying "do you not agree" to him being towny to me, right?

i say yes, sure, he feels towny,

and then that makes the team you/harley fmpov? lol

You didn't answer the question, how do you actually read me?

And I disagree with your assessment on Harley btw, I don't lean either way yet, maybe very slightly scum. Have you seen her play scum?

Based on what? I was thinking about switching my vote to Infinity but now I think I’ll leave it.

[Harley Quinn]

okay so you saying "do you not agree" to him being towny to me, right?

i say yes, sure, he feels towny,

and then that makes the team you/harley fmpov? lol

You didn't answer the question, how do you actually read me?

And I disagree with your assessment on Harley btw, I don't lean either way yet, maybe very slightly scum. Have you seen her play scum?

we've literally been in a game together where she was scum so. ya know.

If Hectic knows who I am, he shouldn’t be sr me, so that definitely pings me.

[Harley Quinn]

okay so you saying "do you not agree" to him being towny to me, right?

i say yes, sure, he feels towny,

and then that makes the team you/harley fmpov? lol

You didn't answer the question, how do you actually read me?

And I disagree with your assessment on Harley btw, I don't lean either way yet, maybe very slightly scum. Have you seen her play scum?

also, how i read you: infinity is making me scumread you by their defense and i'm seeing the early posting right now as potential theater.

Yeah I think it seems likely. Infinty seems kind’ve scummy but I disliked Hectic’s read on me. I don’t think Infinty has any clue who I am, so Hectic’s suspicion on me seems worse.

[Harley Quinn]

Do you think you're out of your scumrange, Harley?

I don’t think you have any reason to be sr me here, which is why my vote is on you rather than Infinty.

[Harley Quinn]

If Hectic knows who I am, he shouldn’t be sr me, so that definitely pings me.

Based on this post I'm pretty sure I know who you are lol

I don’t see why?

[Harley Quinn]

My current solve is Hectic/Infinity, I think Ydrasse is town.

[Harley Quinn]

Do you think scum would try and buddy you in this setup, Harley?

I think Infinty is the scummiest but I don’t like you’re sr me here, that why my vote is on you rather than her. Why wouldn’t scum push me?

You’re saying I should tr you > Ydrasse when you have no reason to be sr me here?

[Harley Quinn]

Why am I scum

Your posting just seems kind’ve off. Like you’re confidently tr Hectic. What makes you think he couldn’t be doing any of that as scum?

[Harley Quinn]

Why am I scum

Your posting just seems kind’ve off. Like you’re confidently tr Hectic. What makes you think he couldn’t be doing any of that as scum?

It’s way too early for anyone to be this confident imo. The reason I’m voting Hectic > you, is because it doesn’t make sense for him to be sr me here.

[Harley Quinn]

okay so you saying "do you not agree" to him being towny to me, right?

i say yes, sure, he feels towny,

and then that makes the team you/harley fmpov? lol

You didn't answer the question, how do you actually read me?

And I disagree with your assessment on Harley btw, I don't lean either way yet, maybe very slightly scum. Have you seen her play scum?

Did you ever explain this?

[Harley Quinn]

I think scum are less likely to take the initiative so early, a lot of it is gut too. If you are who I think you are, you know that I can have a confident gut town reads, even early on, so the basis for this SR seems strange

PEdit: ok but I trust my early reads more than my later ones sometimes so /shrug

I haven't quite made up my mind yet though, and I'm not sure where you're getting that I have?

I want to know why you don't townread hectic

Well maybe I’m assuming then because in a game with just 4, it just came across as really confident. But interesting that you mention gut because mine isn’t a fan of yours.

[Harley Quinn]

Who is harley?

VOTE: harley post pls

Are you trolling? Maybe I should switch my vote to you?

Wdym, I wanted you to post but didn't know who you were

The game has literally just started but whatever.

This one

Why is that scummy?

[Harley Quinn]

Do you think scum would try and buddy you in this setup, Harley?

I think Infinty is the scummiest but I don’t like you’re sr me here, that why my vote is on you rather than her. Why wouldn’t scum push me?

You’re saying I should tr you > Ydrasse when you have no reason to be sr me here?

If you are town, scum would be better off townreading/buddying you because you have a tendency to OMGUS, and if you get voted out, you get a dayvig

The obvious flaw in that reasoning is that I’d actually need to be voted out to get a dayvig.

[Harley Quinn]

Tone, the "but whatever" at the end

I still don’t see why that reads scummy to you at all? This is what concerns me, you being sus on me for something I would expect you to know is 100% nai for me.

[Harley Quinn]

Do you think scum would try and buddy you in this setup, Harley?

I think Infinty is the scummiest but I don’t like you’re sr me here, that why my vote is on you rather than her. Why wouldn’t scum push me?

You’re saying I should tr you > Ydrasse when you have no reason to be sr me here?

If you are town, scum would be better off townreading/buddying you because you have a tendency to OMGUS, and if you get voted out, you get a dayvig

The obvious flaw in that reasoning is that I’d actually need to be voted out to get a dayvig.

So why would scum push you?

Your theory is that scum!Ydrasse is buddying me so I won’t shoot her if I get voted out. I’m saying that if she’s buddying me, then how does that even happen?

[Harley Quinn]

Tone, the "but whatever" at the end

I still don’t see why that reads scummy to you at all? This is what concerns me, you being sus on me for something I would expect you to know is 100% nai for me.

Why is this concerning to you when I was suspicious of you as Legolad too at first?

I don’t recall that? Was that before or after you figured out my main? Because if you didn’t know who I was att, that’s nai. We also had a lot more players with one player who seemed particularly scummy, especially when shellyc replaced in.

But my point being your reasoning was based on something that I would expect you to read as NAI based off of meta.

[Harley Quinn]

I knew who you were and suspected you as Legolad, I don't know why you have this impression that I should be perfect at reading you immediately lol

I'm also not an expert on your meta

What do you find towny about Ydrasse?

Well, why don’t I remember that? Only hint I even had iirc is when I read your dance PT that you and Ydrasse we’re actually pranking me and Mikan and were planning to vote us out, had game not ended, so both of you straight up lied to me.

Because she’s doing something. Why do you sr her?

[Harley Quinn]

(Or what's NAI for you via meta, especially tonal things)

You say you sr me for saying “whatever”. I want to understand how you see that as possibly scum indicative not nia. Iow, it pings me. And why is it not within the realm of possibility that you could possibly be pulling a Flavor Leaf? Scum!him always finds the most ridiculous reasons to sr me, so I don’t understand why you wouldn’t expect me not to be suspicious of that, since you know that I’m extremely prone to omgus sring?

[Harley Quinn]

@Harley:

What's the "something" she's doing?

I don't like her townreading you already, it felt too fast

Yes, based off of that trust fall game and given that I currently feel the worst about Infinty. I think that’s a bad take. I feel the best about her is what I said. She’s sorting, making reads.

I currently feel the worst about Infinty and I’m sus on your read on me. It’s not rocket science.

[Harley Quinn]

I think Ydrasse is less likely to say her buddy feels like her usual townself upon entering the game. I can see that as a pocket but I'm not sure Ydrasse makes that post to her scum partner when that partner is HARLEY QUINN.

New solve is Infinity + Harley

I’m really torn by this because I know your read on me is wrong. Hmm . . . What am I not seeing? Perhaps we should just vote out Infinity?

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Infinty

I think this is the best play and then I can figure out which one of Hectic/Ydrasse is playing me.

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Infinty

I think this is the best play and then I can figure out which one of Hectic/Ydrasse is playing me.

I just don’t think Hectic/Ydrasse is SvS here and rn, I lean to Ydrasse being the most likely the T.

[Harley Quinn]

I think Ydrasse is less likely to say her buddy feels like her usual townself upon entering the game. I can see that as a pocket but I'm not sure Ydrasse makes that post to her scum partner when that partner is HARLEY QUINN.

New solve is Infinity + Harley

I’m really torn by this because I know your read on me is wrong. Hmm . . . What am I not seeing? Perhaps we should just vote out Infinity?

What has you torn on this? I thought you expect town!me to be right on you so shouldn't that make me scum?

I obviously do but I liked your reasoning for it better. I really don’t know wtf you’re trying to do here? You seem to want your cake and eat it. You’re initially sus on me for sr you for voting me, now you’re sus on me for wanting to vote out the player I have the least reasons to tr?

[Harley Quinn]

pew pew pew

i don't know how i'm taking you right now, i'd probably always ? shoot infinity here maybe i think if i got limmed, harley has a little of her towny aura currently but it's not actually enough to make me feel concrete on her

You scumread Infinity because you disagree with their townread on me, right?

What do you think of me wanting to be launched today

No, why are you misrepping my posting? I thought that their read on you seemed overly confident so either scum theater or a tmi. If you’re on the level about that, because saying you actually want to be launched pretty much guarantees it won’t happen fypov, right?

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Infinty

I think this is the best play and then I can figure out which one of Hectic/Ydrasse is playing me.

I just don’t think Hectic/Ydrasse is SvS here and rn, I lean to Ydrasse being the most likely the T.

Why can't we be S/S?

I'm literally roasting Ydrasse in the scum PT right now. She's being really damn toxic in there, she's kinda got me beat

I think you just answered your own question with this.

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Infinty

I think this is the best play and then I can figure out which one of Hectic/Ydrasse is playing me.

I just don’t think Hectic/Ydrasse is SvS here and rn, I lean to Ydrasse being the most likely the T.

Why can't we be S/S?

I'm literally roasting Ydrasse in the scum PT right now. She's being really damn toxic in there, she's kinda got me beat

I think you just answered your own question with this.

Damn! I need to figure out how to do this every game I’m in.

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Infinty

I think this is the best play and then I can figure out which one of Hectic/Ydrasse is playing me.

I just don’t think Hectic/Ydrasse is SvS here and rn, I lean to Ydrasse being the most likely the T.

Why can't we be S/S?

I'm literally roasting Ydrasse in the scum PT right now. She's being really damn toxic in there, she's kinda got me beat

I think you just answered your own question with this.

Damn! I need to figure out how to do this every game I’m in.

Like sure it could be an absolutely brilliant gambit but one I rarely ever see.

[Harley Quinn]

Would still like a serious answer to that question

And why, Infinity?

I already answered in my last post. Why is she town? Because my reads have not changed since the game started.

I could do an actual list of my current leanings but I think that would be redundant.

Your pushing on me seems contradictory and why did you unvote Infinity? You said you thought it was Infinity/me and that you tr Ydrasse or has that changed?

[Harley Quinn]

pew pew pew

i don't know how i'm taking you right now, i'd probably always ? shoot infinity here maybe i think if i got limmed, harley has a little of her towny aura currently but it's not actually enough to make me feel concrete on her

You scumread Infinity because you disagree with their townread on me, right?

What do you think of me wanting to be launched today

No, why are you misrepping my posting? I thought that their read on you seemed overly confident so either scum theater or a tmi. If you’re on the level about that, because saying you actually want to be launched pretty much guarantees it won’t happen fypov, right?

Your compass is off, Miss Harley. This was directed at Ydrasse.

Oh.

[Harley Quinn]

I don't want to end the day yet. Ftr you're my top scumread right now, your suspicion lessening on me after I called you scum I find a very unlike-town!Harley move to make.

My suspicion on you only lessened because your reasoning was based on your Ydrasse read because that fit with my own but I could do either of you.

Harley
Ydrasse
Toxic
Infinty

I think you’re being really scummy and if my sr on Infinity wasn’t stronger, I’d switch my vote back to you.

[Harley Quinn]

HMMMMMMM

I'm loving this, this is so fun.

Let's go back to the subject of me declaring I wanted to launch myself: You think that's scum!me gambiting that it means I won't get launched? What if I INSIST and say that once we've had enough time to talk today, I'll be self-voting?

And will ask everyone to vote me?

We could all do that you know. What would you say if I did that? Like it means pretty much nothing in this kind of setup.

[Harley Quinn]

I think Harley moving to vote Infinity after I started suspecting her is pretty telling though, she'd rather have Infinity take the shot than me likely shoot her.

Now I ponder whether she's voting a buddy to get some cred and win Ydrasse over in final 3, or town!Infinity hoping for a misfire on I. The latter seems less likely. I may be overthinking all this though considering these actions aren't set in stone.

VOTE: Toxic 1v1

[Harley Quinn]

Harley + Infinity
Harley + Ydrasse

??????????

I lean the towards the first solve (my original!) at the moment

I’ve changed my mind. I’m calling your bluff, if you really think I’m scum than vote me and then I can decide which of you I get to shoot and yeah I’m really fired up now about getting the dayvig.

I just think you’re full of it and that this is all an act.

[Harley Quinn]

HMMMMMMM

I'm loving this, this is so fun.

Let's go back to the subject of me declaring I wanted to launch myself: You think that's scum!me gambiting that it means I won't get launched? What if I INSIST and say that once we've had enough time to talk today, I'll be self-voting?

And will ask everyone to vote me?

We could all do that you know. What would you say if I did that? Like it means pretty much nothing in this kind of setup.

I think Harley moving to vote Infinity after I started suspecting her is pretty telling though, she'd rather have Infinity take the shot than me likely shoot her.

Now I ponder whether she's voting a buddy to get some cred and win Ydrasse over in final 3, or town!Infinity hoping for a misfire on I. The latter seems less likely. I may be overthinking all this though considering these actions aren't set in stone.

VOTE: Toxic 1v1

Harley + Infinity
Harley + Ydrasse

??????????

I lean the towards the first solve (my original!) at the moment

I’ve changed my mind. I’m calling your bluff, if you really think I’m scum than vote me and then I can decide which of you I get to shoot and yeah I’m really fired up now about getting the dayvig.

I just think you’re full of it and that this is all an act.

[Harley Quinn]

Why are you misrepping me @Toxic?

[Harley Quinn]

Have a look at my reasons seriously though, they're really good ones and there's a reason Harley was my top scumread - her reaction to me pushing her is one she never ever makes as town

Oh, and she literally hammered Infinity after she realised how sure I was on her being scum lol

She took the cred for hammering her partner and knew her wincon was convincing you over me

That’s 100% bs and you know it. It’s beyond obvious I had no clue Infinity was hammered. Otherwise, I never would have switched my vote and called your bluff.

[Harley Quinn]

Btw I didn't realise it was a hammer and was seriously down to get voted out yesterday. I would've shot Harley ftr

I didn't want to be in the 50/50, I really would've preferred to be the conftown making the decision

Have a look at my reasons seriously though, they're really good ones and there's a reason Harley was my top scumread - her reaction to me pushing her is one she never ever makes as town

Oh, and she literally hammered Infinity after she realised how sure I was on her being scum lol

She took the cred for hammering her partner and knew her wincon was convincing you over me

You unvoted her yet I knew she was hammered. Like the fact that you’re straight up lying about that should tell Ydrasse all she needs to know.

[Harley Quinn]

UNVOTE: Infinity

Why did you unvote her?

[Harley Quinn]

Or you could be faking that as scum do because they kinda need to lie ya know, it's a pretty sad life

Honestly though I'm not 100% sure whether you knew it was a hammer. I lean yes, but if not, you were just going for the bus and to convince Ydrasse in final 3 after you realised I was scumreading you

I really don’t need to even bother. I know I’m town and I trust Ydrasse to read me correctly. Like to even suggest I’d fake switching my vote shows how little you even know how I play. I decided to switch my vote to you to call your bluff because I believed it was fake and wanted to see if you’d actually prove me wrong.

[Harley Quinn]

UNVOTE: Infinity

Why did you unvote her?

I didn't want the day to end

I obviously didn’t either but keep telling me otherwise.

I voted you because I wanted to see if you were actually serious about getting that vigshot or if it was a bluff. I also was secretly hoping that I’d be the one getting the vig shot and then I could get to decide. But I didn’t wanted to wait and see first what you’d do - which is why I switched my vote and the fact that we now that we have one scum flipped and Ydrasse is confirmed town, I obviously have my answer.

[Harley Quinn]

Btw I didn't realise it was a hammer and was seriously down to get voted out yesterday. I would've shot Harley ftr

I didn't want to be in the 50/50, I really would've preferred to be the conftown making the decision

Why wouldn’t you have shot Infinty? I 100% would have, then try to figure out which one of you or Ydrasse is telling me the truth.

Her play here is so 180 degrees the opposite of that game you modded. I think shooting me is a brilliant strategy. Of course you would want to be in Elo with Ydrasse and Infinty > me. Why? Because it’s a slam dunk that Ydrasse always shoots Infinity in F3.

[Harley Quinn]

Btw I didn't realise it was a hammer and was seriously down to get voted out yesterday. I would've shot Harley ftr

I didn't want to be in the 50/50, I really would've preferred to be the conftown making the decision

Why wouldn’t you have shot Infinty? I 100% would have, then try to figure out which one of you or Ydrasse is telling me the truth.

Her play here is so 180 degrees the opposite of that game you modded.

I think shooting me is a brilliant strategy. Of course you would want to be in Elo with Ydrasse and Infinty > me. Why? Because it’s a slam dunk that Ydrasse always shoots Infinity in F3

.

Isn't this just a scumslip? Why would I be able to shoot you unless I was town? What.

Ydrasse, she's... literally talking about a hypothetical where scum!me would shoot town!her because I want to be in a lylo with you and Infinity???? What is going on

You’re CLAIMING that, stop misrepping me, it’s extremely obvious that’s what I meant.

[Harley Quinn]

Btw I didn't realise it was a hammer and was seriously down to get voted out yesterday. I would've shot Harley ftr

I didn't want to be in the 50/50, I really would've preferred to be the conftown making the decision

Why wouldn’t you have shot Infinty? I 100% would have, then try to figure out which one of you or Ydrasse is telling me the truth.

Her play here is so 180 degrees the opposite of that game you modded.

I think shooting me is a brilliant strategy. Of course you would want to be in Elo with Ydrasse and Infinty > me. Why? Because it’s a slam dunk that Ydrasse always shoots Infinity in F3

.

Isn't this just a scumslip? Why would I be able to shoot you unless I was town? What.

Ydrasse, she's... literally talking about a hypothetical where scum!me would shoot town!her because I want to be in a lylo with you and Infinity???? What is going on

You’re CLAIMING that, stop misrepping me, it’s extremely obvious that’s what I meant.

You’re claiming you would shoot me to to miselim me. I’m really getting pissed with you twisting everything.

VOTE: Toxic

[Harley Quinn]

Btw I didn't realise it was a hammer and was seriously down to get voted out yesterday. I would've shot Harley ftr

I didn't want to be in the 50/50, I really would've preferred to be the conftown making the decision

Why wouldn’t you have shot Infinty? I 100% would have, then try to figure out which one of you or Ydrasse is telling me the truth.

Her play here is so 180 degrees the opposite of that game you modded.

I think shooting me is a brilliant strategy. Of course you would want to be in Elo with Ydrasse and Infinty > me. Why? Because it’s a slam dunk that Ydrasse always shoots Infinity in F3

.

Isn't this just a scumslip? Why would I be able to shoot you unless I was town? What.

Ydrasse, she's... literally talking about a hypothetical where scum!me would shoot town!her because I want to be in a lylo with you and Infinity???? What is going on

You’re CLAIMING that, stop misrepping me, it’s extremely obvious that’s what I meant.

But you said me shooting you is a brilliant strategy for scum!me? Can you explain?

You CLAIMING it is. You unvoted Infinity - that speaks to intent. You should - if you were town - say you would shoot her > me but but because you’re obviously not, you say me in order to get me miselimed. It’s pretty damned obvious that you wanted to save Infinity is my obvious point, if that isn’t clear.

[Harley Quinn]

Ydrasse, do you need more from me? I think it's incredibly obvious. I'm checking out for the night but I feel good about this, I think I've shown the reasons well.

Pedit: There's that OUTRAGE right on cue, glad you took my advice

I’m flipping town, so I don’t understand why you’re working so hard to oversell your shitpush?

[Harley Quinn]

But seriously, I don't understand that coloured paragraph at all and I think you got your perspectives mixed up. There's no world where scum!me can shoot you or miselim you on day 1 and end up in a final 3 with Ydrasse and Infinity. 1) because I would be scum with Infinity so how could we both be in final 3? and 2) because if you were town, you wouldn't die after being shot/miselim on day 1 by me

it's a legit scumslip in the wild...

For the gazillionth time, I was referring to your CLAIM but sure keep accusing me of “scumslipping”. lololol

Newsflash: In Gameshow v1, I actually used the word “we” when I referenced the scumteam. And yes, I was also town in that.

[Harley Quinn]

@Ydrasse, if you get a chance, please metadive me and you will see that what Hectic is calling a so-called “scumslip” is literally me in every single game I’ve ever played.

[Harley Quinn]

Semantics slips like the misuse of one word is very different to a whole logic/perspective slip involving two sentences

You know I’m dyslexic. I have wrongly been accused of scumslipping ij more games than I can count but literally the ONLY time I actually ever did scumslip for realz - was in a game where I was clearly informed about the setup and I actually got hard tr for it, so I think this is kind of shitty of you. Try to use a more honourable method of shitpushing me.

[Harley Quinn]

Spoiler:

So? I’m not scum here [redacted] unless you think it’s scum indicative to be dyslexic?

so it is strange that to me that

you say [redacted] said something,
that [redacted] has not said,
and then [redacted] comes to the thread,
does not draw attention to you having done so,
and then says the thing that you said they said

like does that not seem a strange sequence of events to you?

Do you understand what dyslexia is?

i do, yes.

No, not for me it isn’t.

is it not strange of [redacted] to do, to you?

like [redacted] comes to the thread,
and says what you've already said they said,
only they hadn't said it previously, and fae doesn't point this out

I’m not fucking scum here [redacted] and I’m find it kind of disgusting that you would try to run me up for having an officially diagnosed learning disability. I will literally spam the thread with goddamn facts about fucking eegs and brain wave patterns if I have too. If you don’t want a lesson on fucking neurolgy I suggest you stop making fun of something I can’t help. This isn’t funny anymore. This is actually extremely hurtful to me. I am dead serious and if you think I would actually make something like this up, you should feel seriously bad.

i'm not trying to "run you up for having an officially diagnosed learning disability". i also have an officially diagnosed learning disability. i am also not making fun of anything. like things happen in the game and if they don't make sense to me i try to make sense of them.

[quote="In post 2142, random townie”]

Harley,

nobody is trying to run you up.

pls calm down.

she is right to be upset if she felt that that was what i was doing.[/quote]

[Harley Quinn]

Spoiler:

[url=Subject: ~Rerolling~[/url]

Harley scumslipped, powerlynch her

VOTE: Harley Quinn

No I didn’t [redacted]. C’mon, I know you’re not bad at mafia.

I always get wrongly accused of this. The only time I ever actually scumslipped was in the game I won on MU where not a single person caught it.

It’s blatantly obvious what I meant by that.

[Harley Quinn]

Spoiler:

[url=Subject: Gameshow Mafia ~Rerolling~[/url]

[quote="In post 000, Harley Quinn”]

scum had minimal info in selecting it, which was the goal

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in my old days id probably call this a scumslip

Thankfully you’re not [redacted][/quote]

[Harley Quinn]

@Hectic, I never fake emotions, derping and I also don’t lie about my learning disability. I don’t gaf what you say but I will not tolerate that ever being used against me.

[Harley Quinn]

@Hectic, I never fake emotions, derping and I also don’t lie about my learning disability. I don’t gaf what you say but I will not tolerate that ever being used against me.

I understand you need to do what’s necessary to miselim me, just please don’t use something I literally cannot help against me. Thank you.

[Harley Quinn]

Semantics slips like the misuse of one word is very different to a whole logic/perspective slip involving two sentences

Google dyslexia and then let’s play honourably.

[Harley Quinn]

I’m town because I had some uncertainty between which one of you guys were town but I felt it in my bones that Infinitely wasn’t. True, I definitely leaned more to Ydrasse than you but that’s because of being fooled by you in Trust Fall, where I got raked through the coals - and am STILL paying for that btw - for being pocketed by both you and Pooky.

That said, had I gotten dayvig I probably would have shot Infinity rather than take the chance that I might possibly have been wrong on you. So feel free to spin that whatever way you like. I did not know she had been hammered. I didn’t want the day to end. I wanted as much info on both you and Ydrasse as possible but I’m never going to apologize for voting out obvscum. I got wrongly sr for insta hammering scum in Penguin’s game and their scum partner even tkept pushing a very similar bs narrative that I basically hammered my buddy for towncred. I got so upset over it - I actually had to replace out -. I will tell you this much @Hectic, I won’t be congratulating you should Ydrasse ultimately be fooled if you don’t redact the attack on my learning disability, your choice.

[Harley Quinn]

I’m town because I had some uncertainty between which one of you guys were town but I felt it in my bones that Infinitely wasn’t. True, I definitely leaned more to Ydrasse BEING TOWN than you but that’s because of being fooled by you in Trust Fall, where I got raked through the coals - and am STILL paying for that btw - for being pocketed by both you and Pooky.

That said, had I gotten dayvig I probably would have shot Infinity rather than take the chance that I might possibly have been wrong on you. So feel free to spin that whatever way you like. I did not know she had been hammered. I didn’t want the day to end. I wanted as much info on both you and Ydrasse as possible but I’m never going to apologize for voting out obvscum. I got wrongly sr for insta hammering scum in Penguin’s game and their scum partner even tkept pushing a very similar bs narrative that I basically hammered my buddy for towncred. I got so upset over it - I actually had to replace out -. I will tell you this much @Hectic, I won’t be congratulating you should Ydrasse ultimately be fooled if you don’t redact the attack on my learning disability, your choice.

[Harley Quinn]

Spoiler:

[quote="In [/url{#p11398604]post 000, Harley Quinn”]

His reactions look genuine and considering he was misrepped multiple times I think he's handled it well. I think that it's quite likely that Harley or redacted is scum here and he seems to agree, and I side with him 100% on the argument of how badly that hammer and EOD was handled.

I honestly don't know what you're trying to prove by saying that you wouldn't have been surprised at all if shos flipped town

given the fact that you quickhammered him with no claim or chance for town to discuss.

Good, we can safely ignore your reads in that case then.

When did I ever say that? Find that quote.

For someone who is accusing others of misrepping, I can’t wait to hear your explanation for doing that to me.

@redacted/scum, I want to see that goddamned quote.

I’m still waiting. Where is it or are you really okay with misrepping me here?

I truly don't know what to say to you anymore. Selective reading at it's finest.

When I saw the flip, I was not thinking for even a single second, that anyone was going to wrongly sr me for lynching scum. Otoh had [redacted] flipped town, I 100% would not have been surprised by it in the least.

so this is you saying that you wouldn't have been surprised with a push on you if he flipped town? I thought you were saying you wouldn't have been surprised if he flipped town

I would have been surprised if he flipped town, I wouldn’t have been surprised to have been wrongly sr for it, in the extremely unlikely event he did

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Maybe we are just misunderstanding each other?

Like if I thought he wasn’t extremely likely to flip scum, I never would have quick hammered. I hate to mislynch, so I don’t take chances but I was pretty sure and I was thrilled to be right.[/quote]

[Harley Quinn]

In summary:

-Harley came in scumreading me because I thought she was slightly scummy on a gut level
-I changed my mind and thought she was town, she was still scumreading because she simply could not understand how I could find her "so whatever" post scummy
-I then see a post from her I really don't like, and start scumreading her again
-She then becomes UNSURE on me, and votes Infinity to hammer then, recognising she can't buddy me and that she needs to win with you siding with her in final 3
-Harley as town absolutely does not do this, she would be adamant I was scum if I started scumreading her like that. She needed an excuse to vote Infinity and get the cred, so lied about being "torn" on me
-Look at her reasons to townread you, there are never any specifics. It's solely because you townread her and she recognises she needs you to vote with her in lylo

Sorry but this is 100% false. And you actually KNOW this because of the blowback I got from my stupid deathtunnelling in one of your games. I don’t want to out which one but no way would Ydrasse not believe me if I did that. I’m just not sure if winning a game is worth it because of the extemely painful reactions I received. That said, I learned a major lesson from that game and am far less likely to deathtunnel and not reevaluate as a result of that, so this is extremely disingenuous coming from you, since you know how deeply that affected me.

[Harley Quinn]

*town!Harley

don't see that as a slip please, I'm tired

I didn’t slip either but you already know that.

Having Infinty confirm Ydrasse instead of me was kind’ve surprising, since I’m better at obvtowning but you had already set me up as a better push, so it actually makes sense.

[Harley Quinn]

I wasn't attacking your learning disability? Sorry if you got that impression.

211 and 216 is the case and all that Ydrasse needs anyway

Yes, I did and do think that but don’t believe you did it intentionally but if you remember from that game I quoted, knowing that doesn’t really make me feel better. In a previous game of mine, I got shit for exactly this sort of thing and when it was pointed out that this was totally NAI for me, this person actually argued that this was some kind of strategy I used in every game to get underestimated. I hadn’t outed my dyslexia atp but I eventually got really fed up with it being constantly used against me, so I believe you because I know you’re a really decent person but it’s still a really sore subject for me. :/

[Harley Quinn]

Do I need to respond to the other stuff? I hope you're not genuinely hurt - you understand that I know that you're scum and so am looking for logical holes and flaws in your reasoning, yes? I'm not trying to use anything against you.

Well of course you need to say that. What else can you possibly say in your position that wouldn’t be anti-wincon?

I am but only because of a personal history I don’t want to get into. However, I don’t think you really thought things through when you falsely accused me of slipping, so I’m not mad or anything because I don’t believe you did that knowingly or deliberately. I also didn’t care for your outrage on cue comments either because I never ever fake my emotional reactions ever.

That said, you’re still one of my all time favourite people on this site because I know that you would never in a trillion bajillion years ever pull a Bunno/FL just to win a game, so I won’t be bitter losing to you but I really do very much appreciate this. <3

[Harley Quinn]

Ydrasse, please read us based on the logic and arguments we've each given and not AtE.

I 100% agree with this ftr but Hectic’s argument makes no sense because I obviously did not know she was actually hammered, so that in itself completely debunks his argument since I did switch my vote to him. I feel that his argument regarding that is disingenuous because he’s claiming he unvoted Infinity to not end the day, which is of course fine but where he slipped up was in falsely accusing me of knowing she was hammered.

Think about it. What makes more sense to you? Hectic thinking Infinity wasn’t hammered and believing I didn’t realize that either or him believing she wasn’t hammered but my actually knowing she was?

vs.

My clearly being unaware that she was hammered and also believing that the same is true for Hectic. See that makes no sense to me and where I believe he scumclaimed. If he didn’t think she was hammered how does it make an iota of sense for him to think I actually did? That’s why I believe that his argument is disingenuous and because the main basis of his argument is that I intentionally hammered do to presumably being afraid of a dayvig, realizing that it makes 0 sense for him to think that considering he himself claims he didn’t think she was hammered, completely destroys the basis of his argumen and therefore proves what I said is true:

That him reconsidering his read on you made me less sure that he was scum, so I decided that it made way more sense to vote out the player whose play is obvscum by meta, rather than risk being wrong on him.

However, I then switched back to him not because my read on Infinity had changed, it hadn’t but his insistence on the dayvig thing made me question if it was real or a bluff and I thought I owed it to myself to find that out. Since you were confirmed, it obviously wound up being moot but I had no way of knowing that att. I honestly don’t know if my vote would have gone back to him or not but while I leaned to you being town > Hectic, I still had a slight twinge of doubt.

I just thought having played with town!Infinity before that she was really off here and I figured I’d decide between the two of you in Elo.

[Harley Quinn]

Aww, I think you're really great too <3

Yeah if I honestly believed for even one minute it was even in your scumrange to sink to either of their levels just to win a game, I’d seriously be livid rn.

And yes, I would never wish to ever have any hard feelings between us. Pooky’s the same btw. I know he would also never sacrifice ethics to ever win a game.

[Harley Quinn]

Honestly though I'm not 100% sure whether you knew it was a hammer. I lean yes, but if not, you were just going for the bus and to convince Ydrasse in final 3 after you realised I was scumreading you

^
I think you moved to bus Infinity after realising I was scumreading you and your wincon was based on convincing Ydrasse in final 3.

Whether or not you knew it was a hammer isn't the important part, but I lean yes.

Why don’t you address my argument? If you realize I had no clue she was hammered then my switching my vote back to you makes 0 sense based on this.

[Harley Quinn]

Oh, good point. I guess you did know it was a hammer then.

Seriously, please stop lying, I obviously didn’t. @Ydrasse why does town!Hectic keep insisting that he didn’t know she was hammered but I did? In what world does that even make sense?

He knows his “case” on me has no merit, so he really has no choice but to push this false narrative.

Despite obviously knowing he’s scum, I actually believe he didn’t realize she was hammered because I didn’t either.

I don’t fake derp ever. @Ydrasse, please metadive me and you will 100% know I’m telling the truth about that.

[Harley Quinn]

If Ydrasse is scum trying to pocket town-Harley, it makes you scum.

Regarding

your

recent posting, I think it's okay? Your reasons to think I'm town are fine, maybe slightly +town. Honestly, I was pretty confident on you being scum after page 2 but you've made a little more paranoid, that's for sure

Btw, I'd like to be launched today so I can shoot someone and be conftown for lylo

I didn't express the confidence because it's demoralising and unfun for you if you're scum and I really did think you were, especially after your posting got shorter after I called you out.

It's better to launch scum because then there isn't a possibility of town dayvigging town but I trust in my own abilities and I'd rather still be the conftown if I'm being honest

^I was expressing wanting to be launched long before the hammer.

Why do I do that as scum when people could easily just call my bluff and get me out of there? Or not even that, they could just listen to what I want and vote me? Whether they think I'm town or scum, I usually get voted for after asking for that.

Note - neither Infinity or Harley called me on it or voted me until after Infinity's hammer, which makes me think Harley knew it was one by the time she voted me

I did not know she was fucking hammered, so you can stop pushing that garbage already.

[Harley Quinn]

I'm not sure if Harley realised she was hammering Infinity when she voted them, but I

do

she had realised it was a hammer by the time she moved to vote me. Whether that's because Infinity told her in their scum PT, or she counted back, I think she was aware at that point of time.

No, seriously please stop with this. I swear I did not know. Until now, I was sure you didn’t either but you continue to insist on this when I know it isn’t true is starting to make me question that.

[Harley Quinn]

Aww, I think you're really great too <3

Yeah if I honestly believed for even one minute it was even in your scumrange to sink to either of their levels just to win a game, I’d seriously be livid rn.

And yes, I would never wish to ever have any hard feelings between us. Pooky’s the same btw. I know he would also never sacrifice ethics to ever win a game.

Yeah, I try to remain ethical regardless of my alignment. I do discuss replace outs a lot though so I don't know if that counts, I believe that's part of the game but others disagree.

It's a good thing I don't plan to join the Peace Corps to go off to Africa just yet.

Basically, I try to never do anything deliberately hurtful but as we both know, sometimes I have unfortunately allowed my anger to get the best of me but I think I’ve made impressive strides with that recently.

[Harley Quinn]

Okay, I think I actually believe you. You didn't know it was a hammer when you voted, but then Infinity told you it was one in the scum PT or you counted after, and then you decided to switch to me when it didn't matter.

Regardless, my main case isn't even on this specific matter, Ydrasse, and you can find that at the start of the day's posting.

I did not know it was a hammer until I literally saw the VC but hey nice try.

[Harley Quinn]

HMMMMMMM

I'm loving this, this is so fun.

Let's go back to the subject of me declaring I wanted to launch myself: You think that's scum!me gambiting that it means I won't get launched? What if I INSIST and say that once we've had enough time to talk today, I'll be self-voting?

And will ask everyone to vote me?

We could all do that you know. What would you say if I did that? Like it means pretty much nothing in this kind of setup.

I think Harley moving to vote Infinity after I started suspecting her is pretty telling though, she'd rather have Infinity take the shot than me likely shoot her.

Now I ponder whether she's voting a buddy to get some cred and win Ydrasse over in final 3, or town!Infinity hoping for a misfire on I. The latter seems less likely. I may be overthinking all this though considering these actions aren't set in stone.

VOTE: Toxic 1v1

Harley + Infinity
Harley + Ydrasse

??????????

I lean the towards the first solve (my original!) at the moment

I’ve changed my mind. I’m calling your bluff, if you really think I’m scum than vote me and then I can decide which of you I get to shoot and yeah I’m really fired up now about getting the dayvig.

I just think you’re full of it and that this is all an act.

I never ever make these kinds of posts if I know there’s a hammer.

[Harley Quinn]

Harley + Infinity
Harley + Ydrasse

??????????

I lean the towards the first solve (my original!) at the moment

I’ve changed my mind. I’m calling your bluff, if you really think I’m scum than vote me and then I can decide which of you I get to shoot and yeah I’m really fired up now about getting the dayvig.

I just think you’re full of it and that this is all an act.

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[Harley Quinn]

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I lean the towards the first solve (my original!) at the moment

I’ve changed my mind. I’m calling your bluff, if you really think I’m scum than vote me and then I can decide which of you I get to shoot and yeah I’m really fired up now about getting the dayvig.

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[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Infinty

I think this is the best play and then I can figure out which one of Hectic/Ydrasse is playing me.

UNVOTE: Infinity

These are when these votes happened. I just did an ellitell check on Infinity and she wasn’t online at the time the VC was posted.

[Harley Quinn]

i will absolutely cry if i have to do this again

The game is over anyway. Gg Hectic.

[Harley Quinn]

Well played, Ydrasse!

Good game, Harley. You had me scared for a long time there

I almost replaced out because I obviously didn’t want to vote out Infinty. Ydrasse being elimed was our best bet but that was obviously never happening.

I actually do feel like crying now. I was telling the truth about the hammer. You can tell because I have strong convictions. I don’t even think Infinity knew she was hammered. It was definitely not intentional. Not that I wouldn’t have hammered her at some point but not then. That was an accident. So I was genuinely pissed that you kept insisting I was lying about something I knew I wasn’t. This is an extremely unfun setup to be scum in. I would have loved to be town in this.

@Ydrasse why are so so upset about being confitowned? You had the most anti associatives with Infinity.

@Hectic already said he would shoot me and no way was Infinitely surviving an F3. My heart really wasn’t in this. If I roll scum in another game, it will be too soon. At least, this is thankfully over.

[Harley Quinn]

im sorry that you didnt have fun harley :/ that sucks, and the reason i was upset was because i didn't wanna be wrong when i hammered and i hated having to decide

Yeah it does and being in a 1v1 who actually knows you’re scum is the absolute worst. Yeah I understand, it was a rough position to be in.

The problem as I see it is even if Hectic had shot Infinty instead of me, there was no way in hell, I was surviving an F3 with confitown Hectic, so we were screwed.

[Harley Quinn]

Sorry about the hammer thing, I genuinely wasn't sure

Thanks for playing it out despite not enjoying it, you played really well and made the game interesting! End of the day, it was a close and good game, regardless of who won.

If we ever play this again, we can swap roles if I toll town and you roll scum

lololol <3 I wish that was actually possible. didn’t even know for sure we were confitowning Ydrasse until literally just minutes before it was announced. We had just decided. Infinity didn’t post in the scum PT until just before the reveal.

I really don’t enjoy scum much unless it’s in certain games that make it more fun. This is obviously not that kind of game.

I really really wanted to be town in this.

[Harley Quinn]

gg, sorry I didn't give you a warning harley and for generally playing not great. I'm not good at marathon-type games

It’s okay, I really wanted to be town because win/win then. It literally took my so much time removing all of the names/links from those posts I quoted. I even forgot to eat.