MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[mahimahi]

I SENT IN ONE-SHOT DEATHPROOF CULT LEADER, AND DIDN'T GET IT, I'M ANGRY ABOUT IT, DON'T REMIND ME I DIDN'T ROLL CULT

Korina's probably lying here because there's way way way way way WAY better cult roles than this

I also don't believe their night kill immune miller vig claim at all, there's no reason to claim it if they are one

TemporalLich, did you handpick the roles for this game or randomise them?

I'm stuck in a time loop, and there's no escape. If you know what I mean by this, then please come save us tonight. We'll be inside the red door.

-mahi

[VFP]

Who?

[Vaxkiller]

I dont get it, whats the point of a 1 shot cult? Deathproof.... like you cant die at all? That seems TOO bastard.

[VFP]

Korina's probably lying here because there's way way way way way WAY better cult roles than this

There can be a difference in fun and good though.
Let's not rule out that there can be some pattern here and Korina could just be mafia. A BP of some sort mafia.

[KidAmn]

I also don't believe their night kill immune miller vig claim at all, there's no reason to claim it if they are one

I don't know if meta has changed as it's been some years since I played a game here with a miller, but I was under the impression a miller's first post should always be a claim and they should expect to be removed from the equation by town well before a MyLo/LyLo situation.
If that is still the case, that does make the dancing around it for several posts and (entirely on-brand, regardless of alignment) complaint about not getting a cult role

again

a little strange.

PEdit: No such thing as too bastard in a UPick, as I learned in Korina's very own iteration.

[mahimahi]

Isn't Korina some cult addict who picks the most broken cult role possible that Ircher will let them play?

I fond it really strange they're lying about their pick, they could just be cult here

Also, I changed my mind; I'll be in the blue door tonight. Unless mahimahi switches us back.

-mahi

[VFP]

Isn't Korina some cult addict who picks the most broken cult role possible that Ircher will let them play?

Oh? Well that's a different thing if Korina is all about the OP life.
Evidence to this?

[samantha97]

so are you committing to not being a dayvig then? also even if korina wanted cult, they only had a 15% chance of getting it

if they wanted to maximize their chances at cult they'd pick town/mafia analogues

but I believe them that they went for broken unkillable roles for all 3

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Korina

mahimahi is town, or at least acting like town at the moment, and yea, korina is lying.

[mahimahi]

@KidAmn: You can claim the miller part without claiming the NK-immune or vig part. Think about it:

1) If you're NK-immune, why tell all scum that you can only die if they strongman you? It means no one will waste shots on them and they'll know to use a strongman on them

2) If they're a vig, they're asking to be roleblocked

They're probably some kind of OP bulletproof cult leader

-mahi

[Vaxkiller]

I tried for wolf twilight extender and didnt get it.

[mahimahi]

so are you committing to not being a dayvig then? also even if korina wanted cult, they only had a 15% chance of getting it

if they wanted to maximize their chances at cult they'd pick town/mafia analogues

but I believe them that they went for broken unkillable roles for all 3

Yes, fine, we're not a dayvig. We picked someone who'd already claimed to stop any unnecessary claims from happening and to get us out of RVS

-mahi

[mahimahi]

VOTE: Korina

mahimahi is town, or at least acting like town at the moment, and yea, korina is lying.

100% Look at the hashtags in their sig lol

They join every cult game that enters the micro queue or soemthing like that

-mahi

[mahimahi]

Isn't Korina some cult addict who picks the most broken cult role possible that Ircher will let them play?

Oh? Well that's a different thing if Korina is all about the OP life.
Evidence to this?

Oops, meant to quote this one

-mahi

[TemporalLich]

I SENT IN ONE-SHOT DEATHPROOF CULT LEADER, AND DIDN'T GET IT, I'M ANGRY ABOUT IT, DON'T REMIND ME I DIDN'T ROLL CULT

Korina's probably lying here because there's way way way way way WAY better cult roles than this

I also don't believe their night kill immune miller vig claim at all, there's no reason to claim it if they are one

TemporalLich, did you handpick the roles for this game or randomise them?

I'm stuck in a time loop, and there's no escape. If you know what I mean by this, then please come save us tonight. We'll be inside the red door.

-mahi

Are you talking about my game or this game? I'm a player in this game, but I can tell you that this game is a uPick but your picks are randomized with a weighted distribution of

65%

/

20%

/

15%

.

If the dayvig actually did fail that means Korina is more likely to be cult as NK-Immune doesn't protect from dayvigs unlike normal Bulletproof, but Korina claimed to have picked a

1-shot deathproof

cultist

[mahimahi]

Korina is mafia/werewolf/cult who felt the need to lie about their cult pick to downplay it's power level and to not have us fear the possibility of them getting cult

Korina's made like 153774739 cult roles in the grand idea thread and 90% of them are better than a boring 1-shot deathproof cult leader

-mahi

[KidAmn]

@KidAmn: You can claim the miller part without claiming the NK-immune or vig part. Think about it:

1) If you're NK-immune, why tell all scum that you can only die if they strongman you? It means no one will waste shots on them and they'll know to use a strongman on them

2) If they're a vig, they're asking to be roleblocked

They're probably some kind of OP bulletproof cult leader

-mahi

1) A full roleclaim can earn points for honesty, assuming Korina is being truthful, and prevents us wasting vig shot/s on them

2) Following on from this, if they are as you posit "some kind of op bulletproof cult leader", what incentive do they have to claim a role that invites the attention of roleblocks, preventing them from recruiting? Unless you're suggesting they have some way of getting around that, I really don't understand where your logic is coming from here.

[Vaxkiller]

I bet Korinas a mafia cultist or something weird like that, hence why we have resistance for thier wagon.

[Vaxkiller]

Does anyone want to claim now for some Vax points?

[mahimahi]

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&user_select%5 ... &start=200

Just read this

Are you seriously telling me Korina picks 1-shot deathproof cult leader over the busted cult roles they've come up with? Like, you can find stuff in there like ELITE CULT LEADER THAT LITERALLY CANNOT DIE BY ANY MEANS UNTIL DAY 4 AND CAN RECEUIT 2 PLAYERS PER NIGHT or something like that, and cultmafia roles which combine the mafia and cult factions and other ridiculous busted things

-mahi

[mahimahi]

Unless you're suggesting they have some way of getting around that, I really don't understand where your logic is coming from here.

Yes, I am. A decent amount of their cult creations are strongwilled, if you open that link I sent, there's one at the top of the page infact

The sad thing is that Korina could very easily be deathproof today

-mahi

[KidAmn]

That's a reasonable suspicion looking at the list of available roles, although playing mind-games based on all the possible cult roles is entirely within Korina's wheelhouse.

To be clear - Korina absolutely has to die *at some point* IMO due to the Miller claim. The question, I suspect, is really whether we want to trust their claim and leash them as a vigilante, or try and remove the doubt before they could potentially get out of hand with a cult if they're lying.

[samantha97]

some of them would be rejected by ircher surely

[Raya36]

they should commit to whether they were serious or not, cause they sprinkled in joke posts

Agreed. Maybe they can confirm if they were joking or not.

[mahimahi]

That's a reasonable suspicion looking at the list of available roles, although playing mind-games based on all the possible cult roles is entirely within Korina's wheelhouse.

town!Korina would love to have us paranoid about them being an OP cult leader I think, they'd have fun with the mindgames and don't have nearly as much reason to lie about their cult pick

I think Korina is very likely scum/cult here

@samantha: Probably, but he'd accept something better than what Korina claimed

-mahi