TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[NDMath]

Raya, Jake, Bell, dsjstr, pooky, unwnd, and the dkkoba head are the players I recognize.

Very interesting. So we have Korina, Pooky, Magnus, and me.

Assuming you're telling the truth, 2 in Korina, Pooky, and Magnus from my perspective is really not a bad pool

I'm surprised you believed this claim so readily! I expected more fake claims early game, but using a sensor role at that point would be so wildly suboptimal that I find it hard to believe that unwnd would have blown it, even in a casual setup such as this.

~Spiffy

I believed it too at first read. Probably the lack of games in which people can make lolclaims like that.

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I am townleaning each of Angry Birds, namely the 'doo doo dee doo' interruption just looks town to me, and Disney Princesses, primarily for tone.

[NDMath]

scum for sure with this kinda post

-koba

Agree with this take.


I do not understand the townreads on dsjstr right now.
-Early posts are just explaining how grand idea works, nothing ai.
-His logic on unwnd makes it look like he either hasn't read or is ignoring what other people have said about the claim.

[NDMath]

I do not understand the townreads on dsjstr right now.
-Early posts are just explaining how grand idea works, nothing ai.
-His logic on unwnd makes it look like he either hasn't read or is ignoring what other people have said about the claim.

You scum read me?
You think Unwind is actually telling the truth?

I don't townread you.
Your unwnd logic is that his first post claim doesn't exist, therefore he is scum.
Which both overlooks that scum fakeclaiming seriously probably makes sure their claim exists

and doesn't address the discussed town motivation.

Upon review the part stroke through was never said just implied, which weakens my reasoning.

o7

yoooooo

I just realized Jake and NDMath I have not played with you since my first newbie game but you two are in the same game now

Interesting, though I think I was in a marathon game with you sometime in between?

I do not understand the townreads on dsjstr right now.
-Early posts are just explaining how grand idea works, nothing ai.
-His logic on unwnd makes it look like he either hasn't read or is ignoring what other people have said about the claim.

dsjtr is a lhf player, their playstyle attracts scumreads.

-koba
u have to kinda adjust normal reading methods to read him properly.

Okay, that doesn't really explain what dsjstr has done that you find town-indicative though.

[NDMath]

In some vaguely serious shitposting...

Expand on your read on me dsj. I know why koba is reading me as they are, I wanna know why you're reading me as you are

Meds posting is fun, This is aimed at Math not dsj

Uh I found the post scummy that I mentioned agreeing with rebelradio that it was scummy.
Mainly since it was a bunch of nothing followed by just rolling with an outdated pool.
Since then I find your interaction with koba head a bit townie.

Hello. I don't know how to read you.

Hi. This statement made me momentarily forget you were scum with me that game we played.

Your unwnd logic is that his first post claim doesn't exist, therefore he is scum.

o7

I think his post was intended to get people to fight with each other because unless someone can find a role where Wind could have looked at a specific wagon with a census he lied. He has not said anything and instead is allowing people to continue to push people from that fake scum pool.

Okay. So I no longer scumread you for the argument since you definitely believe this, but that's presumably pretty much the purpose of the rt.

What do you think of the scumreads on you?

I surprisingly don't think anyone's mentioned scumreading me yet.
Please show me where?

[NDMath]

o7

LISTEN UP BEAN SPOUTS

unwnd I am being persuaded to believe that you are the reason that we know that there are 14 town I will need to check again but I love this dialogue.

Bear with me I know that I'm running on fumes about to get another drink but I'll finish this for sure sorry sorry

Politely requesting we not go speculating into the source of that.


Hayker wagon looks really dumb. Especially disappointed that more than one should-just-be-town (Toogeloo, Sam) players are calling for a quickhammer rather than roleclaim.
VOTE: pooky
Someone convince me the hayker votes aren't just an inactivity pl since that's what they look like.


Korina's survivor claim is interesting, not sure that I believe it, though pooky's point of waiting until six other nontown are dead makes a lot of sense.

[NDMath]

Ah, so optimal Survivor play is to claim day 1 because town should want them to win even though they could end up being an extra mafioso in the end game.

Things I learned today.

From town's perspective, we would rather have survivors claim day 1 than any other time.

"all of them"

So from what I understand, you've been offered every single role and alignment available ever?

Why not pick town? or Cult? Or something fun?

Searching 'Alignment Picker' in the GIM thread, he doesn't actually become that alignment, he just wins if they win (and exist, loses if they don't exist). So if he did actually picked survivor, he wins if korina wins and loses if korina loses.
As for why one would ever pick survivor in that scenario, idk.


Reading his Iso, Jake claiming non-town was definitely serious.

[NDMath]

Reading his Iso, Jake claiming non-town was definitely serious.

*Its

[NDMath]

self reminder to follow up on NDMath thing getting potential deepscum vibes from them however i might just be mathphobic

my deepscum read gets stronger upon NDMath turning his back on hayker situation, saying he's above it, and instead pushing some random angle w pooks. classic scum

love you,
hellbook

Pooky vote wasn't random; He put Hayker to L-1 before a claim when Korina had said they would hammer any wagon at L-1. There really wasn't a reason given for hayker's wagon besides his inactivity and "let's rush to night", neither of which are valid in my eyes. I guess I don't really understand how a townie can look at the rushedness of the wagon and think it's fine, although obviously several did. Won't deny that it ended up working out though.

I'm curious what the initial vibes were from? (Also sidepoint but I didn't 'turn my back' since I didn't scumread hayker in the first place.)

no one tell dkkoba that someone else claimed third party

Bolded giant text telling them incoming on day 2 start lol.

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Nah, I'm town.

I'm the town counter. (the announcement of how many town are alive is my role) I'm in a neighborhood with NDMath who is confirmed not aligned with the mafia.
We both know we're not aligned with the mafia.

And I haven't been scummy in the slightest in this game.

Confirming this.

My role on the GIM thread made the neighborhood and is why we know we're not mafia.
Posts 8179, 8180, and 8181.
Two town and 1 Sk.
So FBI agents and roleblockers can be on me thanks.



@VaxKiller Can you clarify the definition of multiball you used when saying the setup must be multiball?


VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
I want the alignment claim out of them since we have the power to get that now.

I am in support of hanging unwnd today though, I agree their play and claim are very questionable.
Also, The only ways for bell to be scum are (unless someone CC's town counter)
A. The very tiny chance he got a reverse alignment post during the randing process.
B. He got culted during the night, which is feasible but also unlikely.

[NDMath]

wait you WANT to be roleblocked? o.o

If I'm not town I'm SK.
And I don't have any roleblockable abilities.
So like yes?

I think my logic makes sense?

[NDMath]

@Guill, Very confused for a bit, figured it out.

I used the search function, searching up 'Informed Neighbor'.
This highlighted the title removing color. (Even after clicking on the post.)
So it looked like two town and one sk to me, I never doublechecked since why would I need to double check.

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viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&p=11863100&hi ... #p11863100
Hopefully this works how I think it does.

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@Jake is #7904 a match?

[NDMath]

Triple post triple threat

This game bores me to shit. There should be crazy roles coming out and claiming crazy shenanigans. If this is just a bunch of stupid third parties and then very few scum then I will be dissapointed and hunting for third party is not fucking fun or engaging. They're good at the limit of one at best.

Really don't think you understand quite what you signed up for.

ngl I'd love to get culted right now, Im not interested in culting as an actual mechanic in this game, and the numbers indicate thats legitimate currently.

I'm worried about about the 2 maf getting a free ride as we flail and panic around the various 3P claims and distractions.

For me today its Unwnd for the cock up, or korinas potential fakeclaim. Those are the only two I'm willing to vote rn and honestly I'd be willing to put them as the mafSolve

To elaborate on PS's point with this, you're putting two people as the mafsolve, on of which claimed a masonry generated by the other mason, while the other supposed maf partner claims a role which doesn't generate a masonry.

I'm cool with the flea wagon, but I still have a problem with Jake.
There just isn't *room* for him.

First Kill scum
First Kill scum partner
Second kill scum
Third kill scum
Cult leader
Town turned cult

^Unless you're trying to argue a vigi made one of those shots Jake has to be either scum submitting actions or town, not some nonthreat third-party.
And I agree with the train of thought he would've received a win con, especially if town.
(There might be some other scenario I'm missing though?)

[NDMath]

Since when did I become the business card collector?

Since when did I become the business card collector?

We are a highly flexible organization where people wear many hats.

Is there a job you would like instead?

Head Chef was a nice position.

Question: where did the position of Business Card Collector come from? Are you crumbing your role?

So I can see the kill on Rebel because they were very townie, I can also see the kill on Sam because they outed as a PR. I was not sure why someone killed cook I could see it coming from a town but I noticed they said this in twilight.

Makes me think that who ever killed them might have been observant because I definitely missed this obvious crumb. So I think there are 3 scum kills at night or a town that didn't really think about it but had a gut ping.

I have no idea what crumb you are referring to.
The below was kinda obvious I thought:

Again, not really seeing anywhere that I can contribute.

If you have a place for me to put a vote, I'll sheep you.

Otherwise, I'm sitting here, as my role requires people to be dead to do anything.

[NDMath]

scum

thought

they

shut down

Guillotina

LMAO

noobs.

What's up guys.

Hard Claim

I'm ascetic

VOTE: Guillotina

[NDMath]

Someone let me know if I actually need to respond to guillotina here.

Unless thats the entire point of GIM

It kinda is.

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@Jake you better do something soon if you want to live.


...Oh yeah

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as in, no o7 since daystart; concerned it was a fake restriction

He said it was fake day 1 when pressuring korina about their post restriction.

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2 medals on guillotina

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Lol @ how Bell still wants to lim us when Nacho obvtowned Day 1, kind of embarrassing for him if he's Town.

I am just a horrible hydra partner that hasn't read this game since like the first twenty pages, and for that I apologize.

But I probably still won't be reading this game. I know Nacho was still p. sure unwnd was scum and I never townread him so that is still fine with me.

Hope you're all having fun!

~Spiffy

I'd vote you if day hadn't ended.
Specifically for the first line.
Bell literally said you'd say it again in the neighborhood, and it's really trying to shut him down in a non-town manner.

don't

skip twilight.

Excited to hear it.
(This is not meant to be sarcastic.)

[NDMath]

This was a waste of everyone's time, and statistically you were more likely to hit a town than scum with executing me anyway.

This makes the false assumption that people believed your claim.

[NDMath]

NDMath - Not here

I literally lead the Jake wagon but okay.


@Magnus please elaborate on your vote I don't understand.

i'm town xD

11 town yesterday, 8 town today,, 3 less when only 2 are dead
what's the theory?

The theory is Jake is town, which he was.

You have something after yesterday

right

?


@dsj Where is your role in the GIM thread? ('Usa' is too short of a term for the search function.)

[NDMath]

1146 literally can't kill town???

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VOTE: Magnus

We have to figure out the veracity of unwnd's results and there is only one way to do it.

My the way, I detected motion around Bell last night.

I will hope you got more than that and just have strategic reason to hide it.

I just got a whisper that Vaxkiller is a Werewolf. Who sent it?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Vaxkiller

This reads really fake?

VOTE: dsjstr

Anyone else just wanna yknow do it

Let's just lim someone we have a 72 hour twilight anyways

This attitude is very bad, especially after complaining about me not being here enough.

Am I missing something about dsj's claim for there to be this many votes?

I'm at the same spot as Raya, I can agree dsj's tone was ehh but people seemed to have been voting for a mechanical reason I don't see?

[NDMath]

Magnus voted me without really explaining and then disappeared which is annoying.


On dsj vs flea and guillo
I'm struggling to understand why both flea is so confident and why dsj is ateing so much.
Guillo's posts/logic however are making sense to me now.

[NDMath]

I don't want to hurt my neighbor's feelings though; leaving him for a cult.

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Magnus voted me without really explaining and then disappeared which is annoying.


On dsj vs flea and guillo
I'm struggling to understand why both flea is so confident and why dsj is ateing so much.
Guillo's posts/logic however are making sense to me now.

Your ISO read as apathetic and putting in minimal effort to get by

Is that just because it's short or can you cite something more specific from it?

[NDMath]

Whoever sent the 'whisper' to toog yesterday should step forward.

Agree with Bell we ought to be pushing out some claims today since we're near the end of the game.
Given the 50/50 split though mass claim probably isn't optimal?

Also we definitely aren't gonna be lazy-hanging nono.

[NDMath]

Korina's mason partner should claim now

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i'm a town multi voter

i can turn 4 into 6

At least give everyone a chance to post in case someone has a umm uhhhhhh bloodhound guilty or equally incriminating thing?

Actually twilight is a thing go ahead lol

[NDMath]

I hope pooky's ability is real lol

Pedit it was

[NDMath]

Twilight is nearly over.

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I am still a Town Informed Neighbor who knows bell isn't mafia.

Korina's mason partner should claim now

do u think ndmath says this about korina if nd is a scumbuddy?

We're still after it. We know it's not Bell, Pooky, Nono, me.
(Bell can't be mafia by my information, each of Pooky and Nono basically killed korina, and I claimed in the neighborhood too soon to also be plannig to claim mason.)
So unless guillo flips precisely mafia it is in {raya, vax}.
If guillo does flip mafia then it's probably guillo.

game is solved, honestly,, do you not see it? unwnd was town, cleared bell, magnus, me,, magnus even died to prove it
final town is pooky, proved role yesterday, i believe it
just did some researching too,, it checks out, no scum variations or other causes for uncertainty

Paranoid.
Unwnd was obviously paranoid.

Oh thank god this game is over for me.

Claim, Town. I kill anyone that visits me and motion detect people. I targeted NDMath last night and there was no motion detection.

Have fun! I never had it.

I'm cleared from being sk at least unless you guys think I just haven't been killing or something.

[NDMath]

Let's hash things out here instead of in our PT Math.

1. We don't know whether guilotina is lying about being a motion detector until they flip.
2. I don't know why you're choosing to believe Guilotina's claim without a flip, but choosing to be skeptical of Nono's claim.
3. It's pretty unlikely guilotina is town. In addition, you're saying that you want to believe that it's pooky, I and you. But due to basic math, that is impossible while simultaneously thinking Guilotina is going to flip town as a motion detector whihc is a contradictory position.

1. I don't see why they would lie about that part post-hammer? And for this I was specifically referring to the world where im sk so it wouldn't be because partners.
2. Guillo's dead nono is not. Also bulletproof is a particularly sketch claim in endgame multiball.
3. I think guillo is gonna flip as scum action investigative.

4. Unwnd could have been a paranoid cop or an insane cop. If he was an insane cop, Nono and I are clear. If he was a paranoid cop it wouldn't matter as every result would be a guilty. There's pretty much no way to be more sure of one over the other without a negative result from Unwnd. Sine there wasn't any it's pretty much 50/50.

I'm still waiting on the rest of you guys to claim.

4. That is not how probabilities work.

5. As mentioned by Lich already just because someone only put a green role pm next to a role does not confirm them as town. Unwnd asked this question already and the mod answered. Therefore the role and your alignment are rolled separately. Unless I misunderstood what Unwnd was asking and what Lich was saying, but I don't really think so? I would appreciate clarification just in case.

5. I'm basing my reasoning off of how Lich modded his previous grand idea games, since I haven't seen a reason for this game to be different. (This is also the main reason I think pooky is town so if it doesn't work like that this game my read there changes as well.)

6. Based on what Guilotina said, I don't think he's the last of his alignment and he has a partner. Which means that there are a minimum of two not Town factions left (well besides obviously that the game would have ended already if there was only 1 faction lol).
There are only 2 factions left that have a kill.
7. You're gunna have to forgive me in general, I'm not a very good player and I might've missed something. In the set up etc.

6.That seems right to me. (Though I wouldn't scumclaim as solo scum but I'm probably in a minority there.)
8. Is into very speculative territory.

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1. I don't see why everyone is lying about being town when there are only 3 town present at most. :3. Yet we have 5 town claims so far.
2. Yes, they are likely lying about their claim. Why is lying about their claim in end game multiball scummy?
3. Sure. Maybe. I dunno, I'm not partners with them. I'm town.
4. How do probabilities work here? Based on Magnus flip. There are 3 probabilities right? Random, insane, Paranoid. 3 non-town's in a row might make random slightly less likely and paranoid slightly more likely but each possible variety of bloodhound is equally likely on the initial roll right? Since temporallich said alignment was not guranteed by each role.

Though, that doesn't really seem true given that there was more town than any other faction. So maybe more clarity is needed?
It occurs to me that there must be at least one survivor who hasn't claimed yet. So I just realized there are a minimum of 3 factions left.
5. What about how Temp lich modded his previous game leads you to your conclusions here? Is it that Pooky and I are guranteed town because even though temporallich denied that alignment wasn't connected to the initial alignment rolls they actually were? Or what else?
8. It sure is. It's also wrong I realized. Because the first guy that was eliminated had to have mooched off a survivor and that survivor turned out not to be Korina.

Given the available kills and some guess work.

4 Not town.
Min 1 survivor.

1. I am confused by what you're trying to say here.
2. Lying about their claim is scummy, end of sentence.
4. First fallacy was you had said either insane or paranoid and only those. Second fallacy was that you gave them equal starting probability. Third fallacy was that you ignored the fact that paranoid works with more role rands than insane does by holding onto the starting probabilities.
5. Temporal has not modified alignment before unless a role tells him to do so. (And pooky+you are not guaranteed town from it but highly likely)
8. {Insert sarcastic statement about why you believe that surv guy's claim.}

Could use some commentary by the people that are actually town on their thoughts besides mine

This may be a sign your current definition of actually town is wrong. (Or I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying.)

[NDMath]

We know that there is a twilight extender because the twilights have been extended three days.
We know the twilight extender is scum because everyone has claimed but no one has claimed twilight extender.
We know Bell is not the twilight extender because he is the townie counter.
We know I am not the twilight extender because my role created a neighborhood.

Therefore, each of nono and vax know the other to be a scum twilight extender.


And From my POV because I know Bell is not mafia, and I'm not mafia, yet vax claims to win when all mafia are dead, nono either led the elim on a teammate, korina (which is very unlikely), or vax is lying about their role.

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Basically I think vax is a scum twilight extender, and not sure who the other scum is.

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and ALSO we dont know for sure the twilight extender isnt town.

I don't understand why a Town twilight extender would lie about their claim? Maybe I'm not seeing something?

Correct me if im wrong, but I think the only way to win this is if we no fade and the scum teams shoot each other?

I'm assuming there are 2 scum teams remaining in the 2 other ppl who arent town, otherwise we would have had a 2v2 situation... in which scum wins I think?

Yeah this should be correct.

Trying to decide how much sense discussing a lot makes.
The more discussion the more likely the scum figure out eachother, but also the more likely one scum realizes they can't win and frustration/venge shoots a townie on us.

[NDMath]

To my knowledge there is a survivor who should not be able to shoot.

I forgot about this somehow.
Surv should just be nono?


Though am questioning the possibility hayker picked mafia or something instead of survivor and lied to make korina look good.

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Wait @Vax, I'm assuming you have not won yet, as in, from your point of view you know there is still one mafia alive, right? Since if so I have mechanical info that Bell is not mafia.


@nono the current problem I see with the 1 maf/ww and 1 something-else theory is 'What is the something-else?'. Since survivor would claim today, jester would be dead, possibly etc


@Bell I've just realised what really pinged me about #3150, and it's that your doing the stand-offish thing you mentioned in the neighborhood (and have been yesterday too looking back) which made you really sus DP and pooky.

[NDMath]

I've reviewed all of Ndmath's posts.
I don't feel much from there. Just general content. Nothing particularly insightful. Some minor sense of vulnerability.

I need Vax, Nono, and NDmath to true claim or we're probably not getting anywhere.

I full true claimed, I have no additional abilities than what I've already said with a town win condition. Just the facts.

If noone changes their claim I'm just going to ask the two people I suspect the most to cross vote each other and then see if scum suddenly hammers.

I am not sure how to respond to the first part.

Unless the rest is specifically addressed to Nono despite stating otherwise, no matter how many different words you put in front of claim it isn't gonna change my role.

I have meta'd nono and this is actually his most active game to date.
Now I'll just go look at his posts this game and try to figure it out.
The only difference seems to be a general sense of independence while he's more circumspect and willing to ask questions as scum. but small sample size is small.

I went and checked and this is my most active game too.

This is weird in that I know it's either a wrong conclusion (nono being town) or it's coming from scum, so I inherently disagree with it despite there not being anything stated that can really be disagreed with.

Rerad all his posts. Without major changes gunna ask Vax to cross vote NDmath.

I agree with vax being top candidate for scum here, however, this strongly feels like you're trying to eliminate the not-you scum and instawin from a nightkill.

Like I don't think town!you first thought to seeing two scum in four players is "There's probably only one scum with a nightkill and we'll probably just happen to elim that one over the other."

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No, but without the survivor claiming there really isn't much I can do other than try to kill one of the scum before losing. Just to give you some idea of what I'm working with I have more posts than all three of you combined.

You would rather be able to say "town killed 2 scum this game not just 1" than play to win?
My comment about activity was meant as a 'purely activity reads bad' more than anything.

Also, just in general I've been working under the assumption that there was a survivor ever since our first flip based on the conjecture that hayker would have auto died if he chose a faction that didn't exist.
So it shouldn't be that difficult to believe given my position and assumptions have been posted out in the open for quite awhile.

I brought up the possibility to you that hayker lied earlier and you had brushed it off entirely.
More to the point, I feel you should be able to adapt to new information as town better than you are right now.

There are 2 town. WE CANT FADE ANYONE, if we fade we lose. If we fade the non-town, then the 1 remains kills, its 1v1 tomorrow, we lose.

What is your believe on what we should be doing with this discussion time today/this-twilight?

[NDMath]

@Vax
I'm an Informed Neighbor.
I know Bell is not mafia. (He can still be another scum though.)
I can talk to Bell in a private thread.

Also @Vax, nono still has to be a nontown twilight extender from your point of view, unless you have an alternative explanation?

In the cross vote scenario, it's mostly just about using leverage to get a better position.

Okay, this part wasn't getting across to me. I understand now.
How do you force someone to vote someone else though, when the town-optimal play is to not vote (under your scenario)?

[NDMath]

what?? twilight extender is a role,, not guaranteed to be scum, dislike you trying to turn people against each other,, for the last time, not twilight extender, IT DOESN’T MATTER though

Both you and vax are screaming this, but neither have disproven me.
If not scum, where are the twilight extensions coming from?

I was really thinking bell as the other town, but 3196 was on point. Im leaning nono as town now.

NDmath and Bell, you guys can shoot each other tonight.

VOTE: no elim

This is thonk
1 quickhammer so you don't get elim'd
2 no actual protown reason for the quickhammer
3 pocket the other scum so you hopefully don't get shot
4 in the process call the two players who can't both be scum both scum

but sure me and bell will shoot eachother

As for my play in general, sorry for the middling to bad reads.
I was trying something new because I tend to think scum re more cookie cutter and unable to break out of that town-line mold.

Don't feel too bad -- your reads were still better than mind.
I kind of think I was at fault for the guillo hang even though I wasn't there that day.

Pretty much town loses next day phase in the following scenarios:

During the day that just ended:
Town lose if scum is eliminated.
Town do not lose if town is eliminated.
Scum lose if they are eliminated. But the other faction wins barring shenanigans.

Both town get shot. Town loses.
1 town gets shot and 1 scum gets shot. If there are two-anti-town factions. We lose.

If both scum get shot we win.


The reason I wanted to threaten an elimination is because if both scum are identified it becomes less about whether they know who to shoot and it becomes more about whether they want to let town win or not.

I's kind of convoluted reasoning though.

Day probably plays out smoother if you had explained the plan like this.
Though nono and vax would probably still hammer in no elim on us.

[NDMath]

note; read with happy tone,, am not mad or trying to offend)

let’s roll the dice

(clarification good)
Yeah, if you are town i disagree with that vote but no point in arguing about it.

It honestly would have been better for me to self-vote then to no eliminate because it would have reduced the odds of town getting shot.

Pretty sure neither of them are gonna be shooting you

[NDMath]

good talk

[NDMath]

@TL, No redactions in either privatechat.

big shout out to my boy vax killa for avenging my death and eating NDmath.

Apologies for being responsible for the deaths of your entire faction.
Pretty sure you guys would've won with any one of those three kills instead being on town.

Good game everyone! Congrats to town and thank you TemporalLich for modding! It was great playing with you Korina and Math.

Same to you+korina.

No redactions in my pt with Ndmath.

Almost (not intentionally) got to the poetic ending of just our neighborhood left. Neighborhood was enjoyable.

NDmath, was there even a chance? Did you hesitate on killing me at all?

I knew I was gonna kill you before I knew I was gonna kill pooky the night prior.

[NDMath]

Should I stop using unique colors for the standard 3P wincons and just color them grey or orange depending on if they have a Town-compatible wincon or not?

I like/prefer how you currently do it.

[NDMath]

Werewolves:
1. Intense Calculation
2. ???
3. Uhhhhhhhhhh this person, change it if you want
4. that kill is fine
5. Repeat the next night

[NDMath]

Would you have still shot me too?

I attempted to fast twilight -> kill you -> fast night in a single post; I was set on nk'ing you.