TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[Vaxkiller]

Great player list!

[Vaxkiller]

What do we know?

[Vaxkiller]

This is multiballs BTW

[Vaxkiller]

This thing i know.

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: raya

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Disney Princess

spiffeh rolled scum again hahahahahahaha

You're just jealous you weren't invited to the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

~Spiffy

Odd response

[Vaxkiller]

Because it is something i know.

[Vaxkiller]

Ur prob town Jacke. Its not a reaction. I t is something I know.

[Vaxkiller]

This is multiballs BTW

VOTE: raya

So general pieces on his entry is that it was bland as hell - there's nothing he did to stick his neck out at all, nothing mildly controversial. Next, I'm squicked out by the multiball declaration. Like, hell yeah, fairly obvious that it's multiball based on 7 scum, but Vax is the type of player that would miss the mod declaration at the beginning, but would know that it was multiball because he was sitting on a smaller scumteam. Finally, I don't like the Raya vote here - Raya wagon was a larger one and he just kind of slides on without giving any reason why - I kind of get why you and samantha and whoever else voted Raya but I don't see why Vax would make that vote.

I would miss a mod declaration.

Why the hell would anyone sitting on a smaller scum team declare multiball, let alone myself? You start off with saying, that I miss things, which would assume im not a great player then you go on to say that I would just know that because im sitting on a smaller scum team. Why the hell would scum!vax do that? Like it seems pretty obvious that would be a really stupid thing to declare.

My role has that information in it, and before you say it, no its not a scum role.

ALSO as I typed this out I found something interesting in your post. You said

but would know that it was multiball because he was sitting on a

smaller

scumteam.

Interesting how you mentioned 7 scum and wrote SMALLER scum team, as if you think scum!vax is on the opposite perhaps larger team from you. Smaller still works grammatically for town!disney, but why not just small?

[Vaxkiller]

I joined this game in hopes of seeing some dayvigs and stupid crazy power roles.




meh.

[Vaxkiller]

I dont really think "this is multiball" is something scum says be abuse they're on a small team. I also think raya is scum, so I dont care about them being voted. But sure, who cares?

VOTE: vax

lol

[Vaxkiller]

BTW I post very little on the weekends typically.

[Vaxkiller]

I dont really think "this is multiball" is something scum says be abuse they're on a small team. I also think raya is scum, so I dont care about them being voted. But sure, who cares?

VOTE: vax

So terrible it's towny (this post)

Yeah

[Vaxkiller]

This is multiballs BTW

VOTE: raya

So general pieces on his entry is that it was bland as hell - there's nothing he did to stick his neck out at all, nothing mildly controversial. Next, I'm squicked out by the multiball declaration. Like, hell yeah, fairly obvious that it's multiball based on 7 scum, but Vax is the type of player that would miss the mod declaration at the beginning, but would know that it was multiball because he was sitting on a smaller scumteam. Finally, I don't like the Raya vote here - Raya wagon was a larger one and he just kind of slides on without giving any reason why - I kind of get why you and samantha and whoever else voted Raya but I don't see why Vax would make that vote.

I was kinda lost on the vax push up until now since he barely posted anything and just looked like an inactive player push but this makes sense and I'm kind of agreeing.

Ur just mad I voted you.

[Vaxkiller]

If hayker flips red, look at disney princess.

VOTE: Hayker

[Vaxkiller]

Hayker, you playing? Why is disney town to you?

[Vaxkiller]

What cult?

[Vaxkiller]

What does one need to do to join the cult?

[Vaxkiller]

@BELL I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS INFORMATION FOR NOW: I AM IN A MASONRY WITH ANOTHER PLAYER WHO IS CONFIRMED TO NOT BE MAFIA. I AM CURRENTLY ASKING THEM IF I SHOULD CLAIM OR NOT, CONSIDERING THEY KNOW MY ENTIRE ROLE.

NO, THIS POST RESTRICTION IS NOT FAKE EITHER.

!

[Vaxkiller]

BTW, click that hayker game he provided. He talks SO much more as town, I was just in a game with hayker as scum, very low activity.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax if you're town then dig deep and do something that shows that to me

I could literally say the same thing back to you. I hate when people come in and say this, and every time someone does I have to think to myself, is this genuine town concern, or scum theatrics. Like please don't say this as town from now on, if you are in fact town. I'm not going to scum read you for this, but it just struck a nerve. It's like you saying "dance for my Vax, dance!"

[Vaxkiller]

Outside of the fact I said that to you of course

Nothing. That post just annoyed me. We good. As far as this game goes, I haven't really looked at you yet.

[Vaxkiller]

Ok, but I'm not sure what there is to hash out.

My biggest scum read is hayker, but I could be building all of it up in my head. Hayker in my experience is pretty low poster as scum, and probably the biggest scum tell is they avoid tough conversations. He popped in here, and I wanted to engage with them, but alas, they are not here.
I was scum with hayker in a previous game, and they mostly followed our (my scum teams) lead. I believe I'm seeing this here with Disney princess and hayker. Altho, as I type this out, I'd have to check back to see if hayker quoted our posts when pushing our agenda.

[Vaxkiller]

NO, WHY WOULD I BOTHER SCUMHUNTING WHEN ALL IT DOES IS PUT A TARGET ON MY BACK? IF I HAD BULLETPROOF CHARGES OR SOMETHING, SURE, I'D BITE, BUT BECAUSE I LITERALLY DON'T, I WILL DO ANYTHING I CAN TO AVOID BEING A TARGET.

lol

It's like a town silent stump. We know hes "town" but basically wont help us.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm going to have to search for this role.

[Vaxkiller]

In the grand idea thread.

[Vaxkiller]

Ok, but I'm not sure what there is to hash out.

My biggest scum read is hayker, but I could be building all of it up in my head. Hayker in my experience is pretty low poster as scum, and probably the biggest scum tell is they avoid tough conversations. He popped in here, and I wanted to engage with them, but alas, they are not here.
I was scum with hayker in a previous game, and they mostly followed our (my scum teams) lead. I believe I'm seeing this here with Disney princess and hayker. Altho, as I type this out, I'd have to check back to see if hayker quoted our posts when pushing our agenda.

I was scum with Hayker as well. He pretty much low-posted as you affirmed. How many games will it take for someone to wise up? I won my scumgame but I don't know what exactly happened with you.

I was so confused, because I thought you mean we were all mafia together in some recent game... so I went looking and found nothing.... then I re-read your post.
anywho

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85512

In response to my earlier thoughts about disney and hayker being scum together, I would say they are not after looking through our previous game listed above. Hayker actively avoided us for the most part. He mentions some scum partners in passing, voted for obvscum not_mafia, but that was an easy stance to take.

[Vaxkiller]

My role has that information in it, and before you say it, no its not a scum role.

If you're informed about something, why not be clearer about it? Tell us exactly how you know there's multiball for a fact.

What else are you looking for here? You really want me to full claim? It serves 0 purpose and I talked about the important part already.

[Vaxkiller]

I LITERALLY QUOTE POSTED IT.

huh? Isnt that illegal? or are you talking about the post from the grand idea thread?

[Vaxkiller]

I LITERALLY QUOTE POSTED IT.

huh? Isnt that illegal? or are you talking about the post from the grand idea thread?

Never mind I see you quoted it from the grand idea thread. So the OTHER person is the mason? So you searched the thread for your own role, but didnt search for mason in that same grand idea thread? My Vax o meter is going off.

[Vaxkiller]

I WAS MADE A MASON FROM THEIR ROLE. FROM WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD ME, THEIR ROLE LITERALLY JUST RNGS EVERY NON-MAFIA PLAYER AND TAKES ONE OF THEM. IT HAPPENED TO BE ME THAT RNG DECIDED WOULD BE THE MASON BUDDY.

Did you look for thier role?

[Vaxkiller]

Hey Spiffeh keep up the good work really proud of you

Thanks Magnus I really appreciate that

~Spiffy

Keep it to the scum PT plz.

Spicy Bell Pepper!

[Vaxkiller]

I WAS MADE A MASON FROM THEIR ROLE. FROM WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD ME, THEIR ROLE LITERALLY JUST RNGS EVERY NON-MAFIA PLAYER AND TAKES ONE OF THEM. IT HAPPENED TO BE ME THAT RNG DECIDED WOULD BE THE MASON BUDDY.

Did you look for thier role?

It's a yes or no.

[Vaxkiller]

can you link a town game?
-koba

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=12809


Here you go.

@raya

[Vaxkiller]

o7

search.php?keywords=mason&t=59348&sf=msgonly

Don't feel like looking through this but what was that about the truther thing?

Yea I already did this too, and it kinda looks like mason isnt really a mason. The problem I have with all this, is, Korina knows about the thread and search for thier own role (this is scummy to me, but perhaps they just wanted to show their own role? still, I think looking through the thread for your own role is weird... I never thought to look for mine, because why would I need to? Seems like scum are going to be looking through the thread for thier "own" role.) But hey lets look PAST that for a sec.

Korina starts asking if masons are town, because they arent sure about thier partner. Why wouldnt they SEARCH through the thread to see what thier partner may be? Just searching should put off more alarm bells about thier "mason partner" as a number of possibilites could be not as cut and dry as a regular mason (look thru the provided link).

Ill be on later

[Vaxkiller]

Bam

[Vaxkiller]

Were fading guil tomorrow.

[Vaxkiller]

Vax

[Vaxkiller]

I think Rebel is Korina's Mason


/s

[Vaxkiller]

@Rebel

Korina is annoyed because we just went through all this yesterday. I even missed their post that linked the TOAD claim.

[Vaxkiller]

Id rather get scum. Problem is, so does scum to an extent.

[Vaxkiller]

Im really sus about alot going around korina, ive detailed it in an earlier post. Some things dont really line up, but I found little in thier actions that seemed scummy.

[Vaxkiller]

o7

search.php?keywords=mason&t=59348&sf=msgonly

Don't feel like looking through this but what was that about the truther thing?

Yea I already did this too, and it kinda looks like mason isnt really a mason. The problem I have with all this, is, Korina knows about the thread and search for thier own role (this is scummy to me, but perhaps they just wanted to show their own role? still, I think looking through the thread for your own role is weird... I never thought to look for mine, because why would I need to? Seems like scum are going to be looking through the thread for thier "own" role.) But hey lets look PAST that for a sec.

Korina starts asking if masons are town, because they arent sure about thier partner. Why wouldnt they SEARCH through the thread to see what thier partner may be? Just searching should put off more alarm bells about thier "mason partner" as a number of possibilites could be not as cut and dry as a regular mason (look thru the provided link).

Ill be on later

[Vaxkiller]

BUUUUUT if they are scum, they are basically pretending to be in a mason with a scum partner? Or maybe there is no partner? I dunno, its a bit of a stretch.

[Vaxkiller]

I'm still trying to think through that one.

@Korina, why didn't you search for mason in the thread?

[Vaxkiller]

BUUUUUT if they are scum, they are basically pretending to be in a mason with a scum partner? Or maybe there is no partner? I dunno, its a bit of a stretch.

survivor is still scum.

werewolf masonries can exist

pirate masonries can exist

etc etc.

-koba

Yea I read them. But isnt the "target" of the masonry "town" still? Or is it just known that they are not a wolf or pirate? It kinda looked like the originator could also be a wolf/pirate, knowing the target is not a pirate/wolf?

[Vaxkiller]

Somebody must be a twilight extender.

[Vaxkiller]

There's some bullshit happening....

Why wouldnt you want to talk??????

[Vaxkiller]

So lets solve this twilight role guys. I doubt its as simple as it seems

Wait, your role changed? You caused the twilight?

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Guill

[Vaxkiller]

Testing. Maybe double fades????

[Vaxkiller]

I'm guessing one scum team and 2 or 3 people are Third Parties. I would probably lynch Vaxkiller tomorrow since One Scum team and a bunch of third parties isn't multiball.

Multiball was my interpretation of my role.

[Vaxkiller]

cool.

if its not in the grand idea thread im eliminating u 100%.
-koba

am i the only one around here who reads posts

I read yours. Only 1184 to go.

[Vaxkiller]

I could vote cook.

[Vaxkiller]

Why are you looking for your role in the thread?

[Vaxkiller]

do you think its scummy?
-koba

I don't really see the town motivation in doing so.

[Vaxkiller]

Pooky have you rejected anyone's application?

[Vaxkiller]

@pooky, if we win with you when you get 10 I would accept an invite.

[Vaxkiller]

/roll the dice

Ok I'll be in.

[Vaxkiller]

A wins a win *shrug*

Later nerds!

[Vaxkiller]

Why not both?

[Vaxkiller]

[Vaxkiller]

Why are we voting jake? It seems to me unwnd or bell is lying?

Also, Korina was in a cult, but is no longer?

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: jake

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Korina

[Vaxkiller]

Ok, no worries.

Id like an answer, please.

I demand an answer.

Answer or we fade you.


Here you go guil.

[Vaxkiller]

Oh yea, who was it that said their role involved the dead?

Was that you particularly?

[Vaxkiller]

Again, not really seeing anywhere that I can contribute.

If you have a place for me to put a vote, I'll sheep you.

Otherwise, I'm sitting here, as my role requires people to be dead to do anything.

[Vaxkiller]

[redacted]

I wonder if cook can talk to the dead? Maybe he accidently quoted them which is a no-no?

[Vaxkiller]

My role im going to add to the thread:

You gain the ability to talk to the dead, but lose the ability to talk to the living.

Many lols, much rofls

[Vaxkiller]

maybe vaxkiller exists in a different time stream from the rest of us

From up here I can see end game, and it's awful.

[Vaxkiller]

I think guils town here, at least at the moment.

[Vaxkiller]

Can I vote just the LLD head?

[Vaxkiller]

flea, ok, waht about guil?

Havent really read too much into ndmath?

[Vaxkiller]

Also @ particular how about disney?

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: unwnd

I liek this

[Vaxkiller]

Like if Jake's grand plan as scum was to get run up and then roleclaim something that isn't in the 500 page grand idea thread that isn't town then he's completely off his rocker and deserves a free ride past today for the sheer chutzpah of it all.

This

[Vaxkiller]

When Unwnds town, he usually reaches out to me. I have not seen that action as of yeet.

[Vaxkiller]

He says something like. "Hey Vaxkiller, I see you whats up? Lets hunt scum together. Or "Hey why arent you talking to me?" Or "Im scum reading Vax because hes avoiding me".

[Vaxkiller]

Ehhh, Good point, not alot of data in that tell.

[Vaxkiller]

I wouldnt really call it a "tell" but just something that pinged me.

[Vaxkiller]

Schrödinger's Win Condition

[Vaxkiller]

I went into this game to have fun, not win!

Unfortunately everyone else got interesting roles

Oh, well, I still have shit posting!

Unwnd, you seriously complaining about game setup in this type of game? I think your mad because you got found out.

[Vaxkiller]

wtf?

[Vaxkiller]

im insulted

[Vaxkiller]

im insulted

Im not listed!

[Vaxkiller]

pooky.

How do I read you?

I go down these paths sometimes...

[Vaxkiller]

Fine.

Who do we fade?

[Vaxkiller]

If a jester gets eliminated does the game end or do they just exit the game and win individually?

Fine.

Who do we fade?

disney princess.

No

and

No.

@raya the game goes on, but the jester reaches thier win condition and typically is removed from the game, but who really knows with this type of game, maybe jester turns into a stump after, and all that is assuming there is a jester.

[Vaxkiller]

We got time.

But im also bored with today.

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Jake

[Vaxkiller]

We got 4 days left and noone is doing much, lets just elim jake and maybe we will have more info tomorrow.

[Vaxkiller]

We got 4 days left and noone is doing much, lets just elim jake and maybe we will have more info tomorrow.

How about I elim your face instead?

Well that's outta left field.

[Vaxkiller]

You are? I had no idea.

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: dsjstr

[Vaxkiller]

I just got a whisper that Vaxkiller is a Werewolf. Who sent it?

I cant wait to flip this and be conf town lol!

[Vaxkiller]

Yea, are we just going to ignore toogs claiming on getting a msg? He brought it up and never talked about it again or wondered about its legitimacy?

[Vaxkiller]

or paranoid detective.

NOT TOWN is NOT TOWN

Don't take it away from me

unwnds willingness to acknowledge the possibility in his type of game is concerning... or are you just trolling unwnd?

[Vaxkiller]

ALSO VAX AND MAGNUS ARE SCUM

What this flip "fader" or what ever you would call it now adays.

[Vaxkiller]

ALSO IMO, EITHER VAX OR MAGNUS IS THE TWILIGHT EXTENDER

I would have claimed it, and then justified my existence through doing things in twilight for people.... like making poems or writing songs about people.

[Vaxkiller]

I missed the whole day??
I went to sleep at night. And woke up in twilight?

Same.

[Vaxkiller]

All these people hating twilight so much.... post the most IN twilight.

Curious?

[Vaxkiller]

I mean, everyone complaining about it is just putting it on. Yes, I want the flip, but cmon.... Patience.

[Vaxkiller]

thinking it’s vax (he likes twilight)

lol

[Vaxkiller]

yoink

[Vaxkiller]

yoink

[Vaxkiller]

yoink

[Vaxkiller]

thats how its done

[Vaxkiller]

Depends on your situation.

Is your living room also your living room or entertaining room? Do you not have alot of money? You need a futon.

Is your living room also your living room or entertaining room? Do you have some monies? Do you enjoy the finer things in life, like wine (from a bottle), and charcuterie? Think about a daybed.

Is your sleeping room separate from your living/entertaining room? Think about a bed.

Is your sleeping room in the canopy of a great forest? You need a hammock.

[Vaxkiller]

IMO, I would steer clear of mattress stores, they are always over priced.

I bought the previous model of this from amazon for about 300$
https://www.amazon.com/Mattress-America ... th=1&psc=1

It doesnt need a box spring, just needs a frame.

[Vaxkiller]

Why do we keep fading ppl so quickly?

[Vaxkiller]

Sure.

I'm a town shop-keeper. I get to win the game when all the mafia's are deadzors.

Sry for how the above sounds weird.... I dont want to break the rules, but that is the gist of my role.

Hence why I new this was multiball.

[Vaxkiller]

*knew

[Vaxkiller]

This is multiballs BTW

This thing i know.

[Vaxkiller]

Forgot about this. I'll look for it this afternoon.

[Vaxkiller]

That was actually easier than than I thought it would be:

Post #1734

[Vaxkiller]

Is it a cult thing?

[Vaxkiller]

If we fade someone, that puts us at 1v1 tomorrow doesn't it? Would we lose?

[Vaxkiller]

Also, im not the twilight extender, and ALSO we dont know for sure the twilight extender isnt town.

I don't like NDmaths assumptions here.

[Vaxkiller]

Correct me if im wrong, but I think the only way to win this is if we no fade and the scum teams shoot each other?

I'm assuming there are 2 scum teams remaining in the 2 other ppl who arent town, otherwise we would have had a 2v2 situation... in which scum wins I think?

[Vaxkiller]

Hello?

[Vaxkiller]

I've full clamed. I'm not a survivor. My win condition while slightly different, but it does not make me a survivor or anything, my role still says town.

Aren't survivors considered town anyway? Still no one claimed it, and it would be a safe claim at this point.

There are 2 town. WE CANT FADE ANYONE, if we fade we lose. If we fade the non-town, then the 1 remains kills, its 1v1 tomorrow, we lose.

[Vaxkiller]

There cant be a 4 maf 2 wolf team. Im thinking 3v3 or MAYBE a 2v3v1 (sk?) but that sk would have to be hitting similar targets the last few days or not be able to kill?

Its gotta be 3v3.

[Vaxkiller]

Explain it to me, point by point how you expect to win my fading scum today?

From my point of view:
I'm town.

Supposedly there is a mechanical thing going on with ndmath and bell that proves bell is town? I'm not sure what that is, maybe someone can tell me, but here is how i see it:

Bell Town
nono Scum
ndmath Scum

ndmaths mechaical is either a lie in this situation, or semi truthful, or a good guess depending on the mechanical

Bell Scum
nono Town
ndmath Scum

ndmaths mechaical is either a lie in this situation, or semi truthful, or a "bad" guess depending on the mechanical in which bell knows ndmath is the other type of scum.

Bell Scum
nono Scum
ndmath Town

this cant exist unless ndmaths mechanical is just outright wrong.

Can everyone remind me of thier abilities?

Bell I need you to show your math on how "we" (if your town) can win this if we fade someone. I fail to see how.

[Vaxkiller]

here's a survivor
or the other not-town doesn't have an nk and we kill the not town with the NK today.

No survivors
Why would the non town not have a nk with what we know, with wolfs and mafias flipping?

[Vaxkiller]

We can also win obviously if both not-town have a night kill and kill each other.

In the cross vote scenario, it's mostly just about using leverage to get a better position.

This is waht im pushing for, i dont want to end the day now, I want to direct scum to each other, forcing this.

[Vaxkiller]

It's the only view in my mind that we have a chance

[Vaxkiller]

Im still not seeing the logic behind any of this.

[Vaxkiller]

I was really thinking bell as the other town, but 3196 was on point. Im leaning nono as town now.

NDmath and Bell, you guys can shoot each other tonight.

VOTE: no elim

[Vaxkiller]

Bell, your content on whole is better than nono, mostly because there is more of it. But because there is more of it and it's consistent (at least the stuff I have been keeping up with in the past game day) I can't help but think your town.

nono's post got me in the feels, because he was saying EVERYthing I was feeling, and it gave a little extra hope at the end. Re-reading it makes me reconsider.

THe best thing we can do at this point is to help the scum find each other.


NDmath is scum.

THe scum inside bell/nono needs to shoot there.
But who does ndmath shoot? I want to figure that out, so ndmath has that information and shoots so we win.

I suppose 1 of the scum could just game throw, but that would not be in the spirit of the game, and likely going against win con? Debatable.

[Vaxkiller]

Ohhh, I see. You think scum will both shoot town? BUt wouldnt they think the other scum may be shooting them (if they know who they are) and want to shoot there? Id be too fearful of that.

[Vaxkiller]

Ugh, actually, scum could totally just come out and say they are scum and ask across the table so to speak.

[Vaxkiller]

ooof

Ill be on in a bit, works calling

[Vaxkiller]

Ircher plans on altering the Twilight Extender because of this game.

Making it longer?

[Vaxkiller]

NDmath, was there even a chance? Did you hesitate on killing me at all?

[Vaxkiller]

Yes, I'm gonna make it last 14 days instead of 3 days.

Yes!
This is all the further I choose to read!

[Vaxkiller]

@bell and nono

You guys played that perfect. I t was hard to hold up a conversation, because it was pretty obv ndmath and I were scum!

[Vaxkiller]

We are people during the day, but at night we cant think straight as werewolves.

[Vaxkiller]

NDmath, I thought about posting this in twilight:

"Ok ndmath, you dont shoot me I dont shoot you. You shoot town A I shoot town B"

But I still would have shot you. Would you have still shot me too?

Not sure if this would have been allowed tho....

[Vaxkiller]

We were made to kill each other.