Open 808: The Council Has Spoken


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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:15 am

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In post 514, Raya36 wrote:
In post 508, Enchant wrote:PUNCH

VOTE: Almost50
Why did you hammer this?
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:36 am

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well,good luck to the council
Just remember, your not the boss of me :P
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:36 am

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*you're
You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:00 am

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In post 521, yessiree wrote:
In post 520, Enchant wrote:Sure, i can't force you to say.

Because of tone i quess you was town, so you probably should give information about people and what you think. It's better than dying silent.
you hammered thinking he was town???
No, i hammered and after that he acted like eliminated town.
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In post 514, Raya36 wrote:
In post 508, Enchant wrote:PUNCH

VOTE: Almost50
Why did you hammer this?
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:07 am

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Because someone already stated intent. Then you're supposed to wait to give the person getting eliminated a chance to speak. And for the rest of the player list time to speak. If A50 is town maybe we would've changed our mind. Quick hammering is scummy
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:18 am

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In post 529, Raya36 wrote:Because someone already stated intent. Then you're supposed to wait to give the person getting eliminated a chance to speak. And for the rest of the player list time to speak. If A50 is town maybe we would've changed our mind. Quick hammering is scummy
Well. Don't place people on E-1, if you doesh't want them dead.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:28 am

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A Council of Raya36, Battle Mage and T-Bone has been selected. These three are now elimination proof for Day 1 and will be given a PT Night 1.


Elim Voting 1.08
Almost50 (5):
, , , ,
Nono (2):
,
yesiree (1):


Not Voting (1):


With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.
An elimination has been achieved.

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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:38 am

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Almost50 has been eliminated (perhaps because he's now Over50) he was a
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Night 1 now begins and will end in (expired on 2021-04-02 08:39:00)
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:46 am

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Night 1 ended, no one has died. Congratulations to all of you, you now have to vote again.

Council Voting 2.00
Not Voting (8):
T-Bone, Enchant, yessiree, Artemiana, Nono, mozamis, Battle Mage, Raya36

Remember, a valid vote for council will be three players within a heal tag, the council will be locked in when 5 players propose the same three person council.


Elim Voting 2.00
Not Voting (8):
T-Bone, Enchant, yessiree, Artemiana, Nono, mozamis, Battle Mage, Raya36

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 will end without a council or an elimination in (expired on 2021-04-12 08:50:00)
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:48 am

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As expected, mafia just skipped.

Well. We can get around 3 free elims, before setup turn in vanilla. So, let's choose Council and kill someone.
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:09 am

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In post 531, brassherald wrote:

Elim Voting 1.08
Almost50 (5):
, , , ,
Nono (2):
,
yesiree (1):


Not Voting (1):


With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.
An elimination has been achieved.

welp, looks pretty simple to me

HEAL: Artemiana, Battle Mage, Enchant

VOTE: mozamis
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:16 am

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Hmmmm.

@Mod, what happens if someone get final vote for Council and elumination in one post? Like this:

Vote: Enchant, Heal: Enchant, Enchant, Enchant.


... Just really wondering about this.
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:20 am

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For that to actually happen, 4 players will have to throw the game first, and the 5th player insane enough to hammer both
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:20 am

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I'd be ok with any of these councils

HEAL: BM, TBone, Enchant
HEAL: Raya, TBone, Enchant
HEAL: Raya, BM, TBone
HEAL: Raya, BM, Enchant
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:29 am

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In post 536, Enchant wrote:Hmmmm.

@Mod, what happens if someone get final vote for Council and elumination in one post? Like this:

Vote: Enchant, Heal: Enchant, Enchant, Enchant.


... Just really wondering about this.
The council goes through before the elimination, therefore, the votes for the elimination would be invalid, as the council would not end the day, but the elimination would.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:35 am

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Thanks.

Now, when this vital question is solved, about Council. First on, i really want to know, what you talked about (unless that's some secret info, but what secret info you can have?), who you tracked (it's useless check, because no one nightkilled, therefory mafia skipped) and protected. And especially, why these. Who you think is mafia especially.


Before you ask me question about why i assume mafia skipped kills and not that's protection stopped it. Well. Remember my words about not so useful council? Well, yeah. I just understanded mafia could skip, before Council become impossible. Unless mafia doesh't have braincells, is it.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:25 am

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I think probably the same council works for me, but I understand if those on the outside would want to shuffle it up. Consider my council vote on Raya, BM, and T-Bone for now.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:59 am

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I'd be happy with that too T-Bone or removing any one of us for Enchant
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:01 am

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HEAL: Raya, Artemiana, BM

VOTE: Tbone
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:07 am

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In post 487, Artemiana wrote:It's a high risk, high reward play to get partner T-bone to get a seat into the council over townie rookie goddess because come tonight, scum will now have insight to what the council is planning on doing-which makes anything they do invalid
Let's not forget that this had happened yesterday.
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:26 am

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In post 270, Almost50 wrote:
In post 192, Enchant wrote:Also others can change vote/add more like T-Bone/Artemiana did.
OK then. My choices are unpopular it seems, but I'll add them anyway:

HEAL: Moz, T-Bone, Yessiree
One scum, two town pocket.

This is the only council he wanted all of yesterday, and in all votes he wanted tbone in the council above all.

Tbone was also the one that he chose to replace me with, and he was also against BM being in the council.

Yessus was clearly pocketed based on his reactions to his hammer yesterday
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:28 am

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In post 45, Almost50 wrote:
In post 26, mozamis wrote:I guess no point healing until we figure out who are strongest town reads are?
This and T-Bone's opening are Town posts.

HEAL: Mozamis, T-Bone, Almost50

@Mod: Would you accept a string that is NOT the exact username if it definitely identifies that player?
(Ex: Over50)
In post 180, Almost50 wrote:
In post 144, Enchant wrote:T-Bone: No Vote
Almost50: No Vote
Enchant: Nono
yessiree: No Vote.
Artemiana: Battle Mage, Mozamis, Raya36
Nono: No Vote
mozamis: No Vote
Battle Mage: Raya36(?)
Raya36: Battle Mage

BM (2), Raya36 (2), Mozamis (1) Nono (1)


Please check, if i'm wrong.
So what's the plan again? Vote 3 that are not me? Fine

HEAL: Mozamis, T-Bone, Yessiree
In post 182, Almost50 wrote:
In post 164, mozamis wrote:
In post 163, yessiree wrote:I do agree with Enchant's plan to appoint one council member first, on the simple basis that voting one person is more feasible than voting a three-member combination all at once

as for how the remaining 2 are chosen, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
Seems a good idea, with obvious caveat that you cannot vote for yourself.
HEAL: UNHEAL ALL
Oh!~ So THAT was the plan. :facepalm:

I swear I did read it yesterday, but I totally forgot what it was today, and skimming Enchant's ISO didn't help (apparently I can't read when I'm specifically looking for something rather than reading the whole ISO)

Well, whatever..

HURT: All

HEAL: Moz
In post 270, Almost50 wrote:
In post 192, Enchant wrote:Also others can change vote/add more like T-Bone/Artemiana did.
OK then. My choices are unpopular it seems, but I'll add them anyway:

HEAL: Moz, T-Bone, Yessiree
In post 440, Almost50 wrote:
In post 435, mozamis wrote:I could go for BM/Raya/moz Bm/Raya/Tbone
In post 437, Enchant wrote:Honestly, like idea with BM/Raya/T-Bone.
In post 438, T-Bone wrote:
In post 424, Almost50 wrote:Any chance of a quick compromise on the council? I will take Raya in if you guys drop one of BM/Artem. My fear is we "might" be making BOTH Scum unkillable today, which would mean we are killing Town regardless after we finalize the council as it is.

I won't even dictate and alternative. Just pick one of Moz/T-B/yes and place them in one of BM/Artem spots.
I'll compromise with you. I've made my stance on wanting to be on the council clear, I'm flexible with whom I can be on it with. What do you want?
Well then..

HEAL: BM/Raya/T-Bone
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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:36 am

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In post 544, Artemiana wrote:
In post 487, Artemiana wrote:It's a high risk, high reward play to get partner T-bone to get a seat into the council over townie rookie goddess because come tonight, scum will now have insight to what the council is planning on doing-which makes anything they do invalid
Let's not forget that this had happened yesterday.
I want you to really think about the position T-Bone was in last night
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:38 am

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In post 546, Artemiana wrote:
In post 45, Almost50 wrote:
In post 26, mozamis wrote:I guess no point healing until we figure out who are strongest town reads are?
This and T-Bone's opening are Town posts.

HEAL: Mozamis, T-Bone, Almost50

@Mod: Would you accept a string that is NOT the exact username if it definitely identifies that player?
(Ex: Over50)
In post 180, Almost50 wrote:
In post 144, Enchant wrote:T-Bone: No Vote
Almost50: No Vote
Enchant: Nono
yessiree: No Vote.
Artemiana: Battle Mage, Mozamis, Raya36
Nono: No Vote
mozamis: No Vote
Battle Mage: Raya36(?)
Raya36: Battle Mage

BM (2), Raya36 (2), Mozamis (1) Nono (1)


Please check, if i'm wrong.
So what's the plan again? Vote 3 that are not me? Fine

HEAL: Mozamis, T-Bone, Yessiree
In post 182, Almost50 wrote:
In post 164, mozamis wrote:
In post 163, yessiree wrote:I do agree with Enchant's plan to appoint one council member first, on the simple basis that voting one person is more feasible than voting a three-member combination all at once

as for how the remaining 2 are chosen, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
Seems a good idea, with obvious caveat that you cannot vote for yourself.
HEAL: UNHEAL ALL
Oh!~ So THAT was the plan. :facepalm:

I swear I did read it yesterday, but I totally forgot what it was today, and skimming Enchant's ISO didn't help (apparently I can't read when I'm specifically looking for something rather than reading the whole ISO)

Well, whatever..

HURT: All

HEAL: Moz
In post 270, Almost50 wrote:
In post 192, Enchant wrote:Also others can change vote/add more like T-Bone/Artemiana did.
OK then. My choices are unpopular it seems, but I'll add them anyway:

HEAL: Moz, T-Bone, Yessiree
In post 440, Almost50 wrote:
In post 435, mozamis wrote:I could go for BM/Raya/moz Bm/Raya/Tbone
In post 437, Enchant wrote:Honestly, like idea with BM/Raya/T-Bone.
In post 438, T-Bone wrote:
In post 424, Almost50 wrote:Any chance of a quick compromise on the council? I will take Raya in if you guys drop one of BM/Artem. My fear is we "might" be making BOTH Scum unkillable today, which would mean we are killing Town regardless after we finalize the council as it is.

I won't even dictate and alternative. Just pick one of Moz/T-B/yes and place them in one of BM/Artem spots.
I'll compromise with you. I've made my stance on wanting to be on the council clear, I'm flexible with whom I can be on it with. What do you want?
Well then..

HEAL: BM/Raya/T-Bone
In post 545, Artemiana wrote:
In post 270, Almost50 wrote:
In post 192, Enchant wrote:Also others can change vote/add more like T-Bone/Artemiana did.
OK then. My choices are unpopular it seems, but I'll add them anyway:

HEAL: Moz, T-Bone, Yessiree
One scum, two town pocket.

This is the only council he wanted all of yesterday, and in all votes he wanted tbone in the council above all.

Tbone was also the one that he chose to replace me with, and he was also against BM being in the council.

Yessus was clearly pocketed based on his reactions to his hammer yesterday
This could also, simultaneously be one scum and two town frames.

A agree, track and doc target should be outed and I don't think mafia decided to NK, considering a kill removes one needed miselimination to win.

The only reasons I think scum would no kill is if they knew they being tracked and didnt want to be incriminated
Or someone on the council wanted to look like they were cleared because, if scum knew who was being protected they could just kill around it. The clearing WIFOM for anyone of these three is theoretically enough to make it to end game
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:42 am

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In post 547, Raya36 wrote:
In post 544, Artemiana wrote:
In post 487, Artemiana wrote:It's a high risk, high reward play to get partner T-bone to get a seat into the council over townie rookie goddess because come tonight, scum will now have insight to what the council is planning on doing-which makes anything they do invalid
Let's not forget that this had happened yesterday.
I want you to really think about the position T-Bone was in last night
I think, at the very least, the ideal council for today would be one of you/BM, me, one of yessus/enchant.
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