MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[TemporalLich]

and I'm only unvoting because of Vax's softclaim... if I find out they lied they have claimed scum

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #12

mahimahi (3) - Korina (196), VFP (220), Flea the Magician (234)

Flea The Magician (0) -

Raya36 (0) -

Guillotina (1) - KidAmn (485)

Korina (4) (E-3)- Vaxkiller (323), mahimahi (416), CaptainS (443), Nono (588)

VFP (0) -

Nono (0) -

CaptainS (0) -

Vaxkiller (1) - Almost50 (269)

No Execution (2) - samantha97 (569), Guillotina (583)

Not Voting (2) - Raya36 (84), TemporalLich (598)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Wednesday, April 14, 2021 8:30 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-14 20:30:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Friday, April 2, 2021 11:00:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-02 23:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: As a reminder, please try to avoid multiposting in a row as that can clutter the thread and make it harder for people who are behind to catch up. Try to combine smaller posts into one larger post.
3: Please try to avoid using the L-word. Alternatives like eliminate, fade, launch, etc. are highly encouraged.
4: Korina is V/LA on weekends. Please remember to set V/LA tags each weekend.
5: Nono is V/LA until the start of Saturday, April 3, 2021.
6: Flea the Magician is V/LA until the start of Sunday, April 4, 2021.
7: Korina V/LA until the start of Monday, April 5, 2021.
8: Vaxkiller V/LA until the start of Monday, April 5, 2021.

Pronoun Key

1. mahimahi : They/Them
2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
4. TemporalLich : He/Him
5. Guillotina : He/Him
6. Korina : They/Them (Preferred) or He/Him
7. Almost50 : He/Him
8. VFP : They/Them
9. KidAmn : They/Them
10. Nono : Any/Any
11. samantha97 : Any/Any
12. CaptainS : Any/Any
13. Vaxkiller : Any/Any

[samantha97]

h-hey why are our votes lowest on the list with more votes

[samantha97]

wow you made them lower lol

[Raya36]

wow you made them lower lol

Guess that's what you get for complaining

[Almost50]

OK, one thing I may repeat: STOP IT WITH THE CLAIMS AND CRUMBS.

Do you think about mass claim would be better then?

Only if all scum claim truthfully.

[Almost50]

no more crumbs, so how about just go whole loaf?

Spoiler:

@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.

What if I have too many TRs I can't come up with a 3 person PoE? Like, the only one I'd vote without remorse is Nono (considering Vax is the one I'm voting now and you all want to let Korina handle him). I don't really have a 3rd.

[VFP]

@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.

Guillotina, Samantha, Nono.

Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?

So you're Mafia and forget that there's probably 3rd party's.
Thanks for confirming this.

Also, Mahi town.

[Guillotina]

@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.

Guillotina, Samantha, Nono.

Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?

So you're Mafia and forget that there's probably 3rd party's.

Thanks for confirming this.

Also, Mahi town.

Where the hell did I say I was mafia for you to assume I am confirming anything huh?

That comment is really scummy.

[Ircher]

Deadline is extended to Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:10:00 AM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-15 11:10:00) to account for site downtime.

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: Guillotina

Scummy reaction, and I want to see VFP's answer to your question before confirming or unvoting again

[VFP]

The answer is already in 607
Guillotina doesn't have the mindset that the PoE read is wrong on him, but instead that Guillotina and Mahi being a scum team is wrong.

[TemporalLich]

The answer is already in 607
Guillotina doesn't have the mindset that the PoE read is wrong on him, but instead that Guillotina and Mahi being a scum team is wrong.

oh lol

yeah guillo is currently the vote for today

[samantha97]

I can't access the site from my computer now for some reason so I'm gonna be awol until that is fixed cause phones are terrible

[samantha97]

oh hey it works after posting that even after not working all day

weird

[KidAmn]

Site has been borked most of the day, hence the time extension.

[Raya36]

@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.

Guillotina, Samantha, Nono.

Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?

So you're Mafia and forget that there's probably 3rd party's.
Thanks for confirming this.

Also, Mahi town.

I caught that from Guillo earlier in another post too. Wouldn't scum be more aware of potential third parties or another team though?

[KidAmn]

@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.

Guillotina, Samantha, Nono.

Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?

So you're Mafia and forget that there's probably 3rd party's.
Thanks for confirming this.

Also, Mahi town.

I caught that from Guillo earlier in another post too. Wouldn't scum be more aware of potential third parties or another team though?

Yes and no - the last UPick I was in, I was a Werewolf Mason who knew my masonry partners weren't part of a Mafia faction, but there were Mafia, Werewolves, a cult, Slivers, a Serial Killer and a Jester, all in a 15 player game. These games are very much "throw everything in a blender, make token effort to ensure it's a completable game if you want, press play". By and large, I advise to assume the worst, do the best you can D1, and hope whatever happens Night 1 makes sense.

[Raya36]

I mean wouldn't scum!Guillo be more aware that there could be more groupscum or third party since he's scum yet still scumhunting. Whereas town know this but ultimately are just scum hunting regardless of which type of scum they are

[Ircher]

Prodding CaptainS (1d 10h). They have (expired on 2021-04-05 08:30:00) to respond in-thread before I seek a replacement.

[Almost50]

So, everybody suspects Nono, but nobody's voting Nono. Neat.

VOTE: Nono

[TemporalLich]

nono's iso has too little content for me to judge

[CaptainS]

@everyone - your 3 person PoE, danke schön.

Guillotina, Samantha, Nono.

Why am I with Mahi in your PoE, when he is in my PoE. Doesn't “the enemy of your enemy is your friend” apply here? It should?

So you're Mafia and forget that there's probably 3rd party's.
Thanks for confirming this.

Also, Mahi town.

I caught that from Guillo earlier in another post too. Wouldn't scum be more aware of potential third parties or another team though?

Yes and no - the last UPick I was in, I was a Werewolf Mason who knew my masonry partners weren't part of a Mafia faction, but there were Mafia, Werewolves, a cult, Slivers, a Serial Killer and a Jester, all in a 15 player game. These games are very much "throw everything in a blender, make token effort to ensure it's a completable game if you want, press play". By and large, I advise to assume the worst, do the best you can D1, and hope whatever happens Night 1 makes sense.

This seems like a good way to view things imo.

[TemporalLich]

yeah but this is still Mafia after all... people acting scum are more likely to be scum

Night is when this game shines, but no exile Day 1 is still the mark of scum

[Almost50]

I am impartial regarding this no yeet suggestion, but since everyone seems to be arguing against it I decided to play devil's advocate:

In "conventional" games (Normal or not) the MOD/Designer decides the roles with the scope of achieving "balance". In this game WE pick our own roles to try and achieve the most with them (regardless of alignment, as I'm sure everyone did try to pick a good scum role as well just in case they rolled that one).

If the game has 2 scums (minimum scum is 2 as per rules) then a yeet on D1 doesn't really hurt the Town, since the game would be heavily town-sided by virtue of numbers alone. HOWEVER, if the game has 6 anti-town slots then it most likely does hurt us to yeet one of us.

That said, I don't think all anti-town will recognize each other, so it's a close call between yeeting a townie and yeeting an anti-town player. Note that the game could also include 6 NON-Town, but not necessarily 6 ANTI-Town (I dunno why someone would pick Survivor for example, but it's theoretically possible).

So, if we no lim it does have a benefit and -maybe- that isn't such a bad idea. At the very least -if we're considering the nature and spirit of the game, namingly the "fun >> competition" part- we are giving everyone a chance to do something with the role they picked before they leave and spectate the rest of the game.

So, there it is. To yeet or not to yeet still

is

the question. I just wanted to highlight that not everybody thinks alike, and that something sounding scummy to you doesn't mean it is scummy for the other person. It could very well have an honest and sincere town motivation.

/End Rant