MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]


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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:06 pm

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In post 627, Guillotina wrote:
In post 625, VFP wrote:A50 is probably scum.
We are not doing a no lim.
This guy is scum and fuck your no elimination shit Samantha. I rescind my offer to sheep you.

VOTE: VFP

Anything that opposes his point of view is "scum" to him.
(To me) this is a 100% TOWN post. It's not because he's "defending me", but rather because I can't think of a motive for ANY non-Town slot to put themselves so far out into the light when the push (by VFN) is being made on "someone not in their PT" (me). Only TOWN do these kinds of things in my book.

Also, funnily enough my 5-players PoE includes ALL FOUR voting Korina, plus VFN. I am not saying they are ALL necessarily Scum, and I'm not saying everyone else is 100% Town (I TR people to various degrees of confidence) but I am saying "right now I don't want to lim outside that PoE".

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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:06 pm

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In post 731, Ircher wrote:
Day 1 VC #16mahimahi (0) -
Flea The Magician (0) -
Raya36 (0) -
Guillotina (5) (E-2) - KidAmn (), TemporalLich (), Korina (), VFP (), CaptainS ()

Korina (5) (E-2)- Vaxkiller (), mahimahi (), Nono (), samantha97 (), Guillotina ()

VFP (0) -
Nono (1) - Almost50 ()
CaptainS (0) -
Vaxkiller (0) -
No Execution (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Flea The Magician (), Raya36 ()

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute a player.

DeadlinesThis phase will end no later than Thursday, April 15, 2021 11:10:00 AM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-15 11:10:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Friday, April 2, 2021 11:00:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-02 23:00:00).

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2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
4. TemporalLich : He/Him
5. Guillotina : He/Him
6. Korina : They/Them (Preferred) or He/Him
7. Almost50 : He/Him
8. VFP : They/Them
9. KidAmn : They/Them
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:07 pm

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In post 746, Guillotina wrote:
In post 745, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 744, Guillotina wrote:
In post 741, TemporalLich wrote:yeah I skimmed lol

I can state again as it was a performance but I don't dispute Guillo is getting townier

I still think Korina is town so that makes Guillo a great vote.
Why is Korina town? What has he done to merit such read from you?
This still mostly hinges off Korina's claim being something I meta-read Korina as town (or at least not groupscum) for.

ISO skim looks okay, and I think Korina's wagon stall is towny.
Ok. If not Korina and me, then who should we yeet, who do scum read the most now?
mahimahi, which should be obvious but I want to properly answer the question
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:08 pm

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In post 635, Flea The Magician wrote:Side note, is this entire damn game confirmable or something?

Like I've deliberate not chosen an alignment confirmable role because I wanna have fun, not just yolo win.
And how are you going to prevent being confirmed by -say- a Cop?? :lol:

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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:09 pm

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^Btw, this was NOT a crumb of any sort. I do realize some people take some of my content in ways I do/did not intend them to be, and -to those who know me- this is not even the way I crumb AT ALL. Just FTR.

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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:14 pm

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In post 641, Guillotina wrote:Scum team if VFP is actually town.

RAYA
mahimahi
temporal
KidAmn
Can I get a short case on each of them? Like, one of them (I won't say which) is even higher than Korina on my own scale of townie-ness (that's to say if that slot is Scum I'm screwed)

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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:15 pm

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In post 641, Guillotina wrote:Scum team if VFP is actually town.

RAYA
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temporal
KidAmn
Come join my club. :lol:

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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:22 pm

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In post 643, Guillotina wrote:I never get yeeted on day 1 unless i got God reads and scum want me gone.

Take notice that im naturally perceived as scummy for my unorthodox play style but here is where you should be looking into if you are town, players like me with good reads are scum's chosen mischop.

And im sorry samantha for being kind of mean to your no elim proposal, but im a very explosive player when provoked, impulsive and explosive.
OK.. I need to see a shrink right away, because -reading the above- I suspect I may be schizophrenic and am posting under an alt that I am not even aware of its existence.

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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:23 pm

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In post 645, TemporalLich wrote:you're actually voting no exile? Your vote should be somewhere else guillo
Agreed.

VOTE: No Elim

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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:27 pm

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In post 651, Ircher wrote:
Guillotina (4) (E-3) - KidAmn (), TemporalLich (), Flea The Magician (), Raya36 ()

Korina (4) (E-3)- Vaxkiller (), mahimahi (), CaptainS (), Nono ()
I am strongly against both of these wagons if I had a veto I'd have used it. (and if I was a Governor I'd be pardoning them)

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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:27 pm

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In post 758, Almost50 wrote:
In post 645, TemporalLich wrote:you're actually voting no exile? Your vote should be somewhere else guillo
Agreed.

VOTE: No Elim
you say you agree with my post but then you vote no lime

I'm saying not to vote no lime
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:29 pm

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In post 759, Almost50 wrote:
In post 651, Ircher wrote:
Guillotina (4) (E-3) - KidAmn (), TemporalLich (), Flea The Magician (), Raya36 ()

Korina (4) (E-3)- Vaxkiller (), mahimahi (), CaptainS (), Nono ()
I am strongly against both of these wagons if I had a veto I'd have used it. (and if I was a Governor I'd be pardoning them)
correct option would be to vote someone else... or unvote if you don't scumread anyone at all. This is Day 1, not Day 10↑↑10
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:30 pm

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In post 761, TemporalLich wrote:I am strongly against both of these wagons if I had a veto I'd have used it. (and if I was a Governor I'd be pardoning them)
correct option would be to vote someone else... or unvote if you don't scumread anyone at all. This is Day 1, not Day 10↑↑10[/quote]
it makes more sense day 1 than any other day
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:30 pm

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well that quote got butchered
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:31 pm

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In post 655, samantha97 wrote:it's effectively 6 to 6 with almost50 as the kingmaker
Great. So I think I'm going on a trip to... err.. New Caledonia... in a row boat. I'll be V/LA until I get there. :P

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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:33 pm

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In post 659, Guillotina wrote:I know my fellow townies are gonna have a hard time not getting NKed without me.
If this was a soft, you don't need to protect me tonight ;)

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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:35 pm

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In post 762, samantha97 wrote:it makes more sense day 1 than any other day
a vote for no elim is a vote for throwing away a major factor in Town's success

Even if we mislim, we walk into Day 2 richer in information. If we instead no elim, we walk into Day 2 with only the Night to tell us info.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:36 pm

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In post 666, TemporalLich wrote:let the hammer drop

no claim even in the tent?

the hammer must drop to end the hubris
Spoiler:

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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:38 pm

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In post 766, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 762, samantha97 wrote:it makes more sense day 1 than any other day
a vote for no elim is a vote for throwing away a major factor in Town's success

Even if we mislim, we walk into Day 2 richer in information. If we instead no elim, we walk into Day 2 with only the Night to tell us info.
idk why everyone is downplaying night like 99% of these broken roles don't work at night lol

also no we already have information cause of the vote count, plus we have a claimed role checker and a roleclaim from korina
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:10 pm

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pretty sure this being a Grand Idea if we no elim we go into Day 2 with less information than right now
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:19 pm

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In post 755, Almost50 wrote:
In post 641, Guillotina wrote:Scum team if VFP is actually town.

RAYA
mahimahi
temporal
KidAmn
Can I get a short case on each of them? Like, one of them (I won't say which) is even higher than Korina on my own scale of townie-ness (that's to say if that slot is Scum I'm screwed)
How to explain this... I don't remember why I scum read
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anymore, I know I picked up on something but I forgot about it while I was defending myself trying to prevent my elimination. (It's embarrassing I know).

My read on
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has changed, I town lean her for now, the reasons are that she gave me a detail explanation of why she townreads Korina which made me look into his wiki to realize a few things. Raya also unvoted to give a chance to out reads at a point where as scum it would be just as easy to maintain her vote to get me chopped, half the playerlist was pile wagoning and it would be easy to wait for someone to just hammer me, but she didn't, she unvoted (i realized this upon looking into her ISO an hour ago), giving me a breather to out my suspicions and town up. Thank you.

I was scum reading
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for his "resignation" comment on me in post which i replied to in post
I thought that such comment couldn't organically come from a player with his experience, again as I stated in post 517.
I also didn't like his comment that even if I was mech clear town he'd still want to yeet me in post

However, I think no scum would admit that so openly. I mean, he could have been power wolfing but I don't think a wolf risks looking bad like that when people start reading ISOs to solve slots. Also he defends elimination on Day 1, which is something I agree on, I also think that a chop would give us more info as opposed to Samantha's proposition to not eliminate, or Korina's stance on yeeting anyone as long as it is not him or Vax, which I find rather mercurial, if not scummy altogether. The last point is that if Korina is scum and Temporal also is, I don't think he'd go out of his way to defend him, I think he genuinely believes in his read on Korina which is fair regardless of me thinking he is wrong or right about that read.

mahimahi
is scum read for their continuous attempts at role fishing, they did it to Korina and they tried to hustle me into claiming my role. I'm also guessing he and Korina are scum but not necessarily from the same faction.

I still think
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Korina says that he can confirm himself by going through her vig by calling out his shots, but he can do it by carrying out the factional kill, all he gotta do is kill a townie, say that he called out the shot but he was terribly wrong about shooting a townie. I must confess i might be tunneled onto him for his performance in our last game where he randed scum and convinced a a good chunk of players that he was a survivor 3p and not giving him a proper chance, but I'm willing to give him the same chance that town has given me by yeeting someone else that I scumread today.

Our contract has expired Samantha, i just realized I'm not very good at sheeping people. UNVOTE: Korina
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:24 pm

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My read on Korina is purely a metaread - I don't think Korina is acting the same way as in TL's GIM
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:35 pm

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In post 770, Guillotina wrote:How to explain this... I don't remember why I scum read KidAmn anymore, I know I picked up on something but I forgot about it while I was defending myself trying to prevent my elimination. (It's embarrassing I know).
You can just admit you OMGUS'd, y'know. :roll:

The difference between the Guillotina of 5 pages ago and Guillotina now is so stark I have a hard time reconciling them and frankly I'm not buying it.

Can't believe I'm having to restate this, but voting No Lim is an absolutely awful idea and tantamount to throwing half the information we get out of D1 away.

Don't particularly like Korina's slot or TR Korina, but agree with A50 that the current 4 votes on Korina are a fine PoE - Vax towards the lower end because a certain amount of "what the hell, you're gonna vig me?" would be expected as any alignment, IMO.
In post 742, Nono wrote:game is funny, in the worst way kek

gullio can be town, playing similar to last game, maybe
let's vote korina so we can get started on twilight early (joke) xD
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In post 663, mahimahi wrote:Hammer coming in 5 minutes if you don't. I'm not bluffing.

-mahi
In post 665, mahimahi wrote:I was bluffing hehe

You're probably both scum but the potential cult leader is more dangerous

-mahi
In post 668, mahimahi wrote:Gullo probably isn't claiming because he knows that even if Korina is deathed today, I could check him tonight and catch him out as lying

-mahi
In post 670, mahimahi wrote:I need to know your role to check you. ISO me to see our role

-mahi
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Nono is actively lurking and just hopping on to shitpost, and mahi owns a whole fleet of trawlers at this point. If for some ineffable reason we're not ejecting Guillotina, recommend either of these.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:40 pm

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In post 748, Flea The Magician wrote:also the Guil/VFP group is more an off to the side group than a linear group, I have strong reasons to read both as either alignment but I'm pretty sure if one flips red the other will always flip green.
Sometimes I feel like it's reddit here and you have to add /s to your comments.
Just out of curiosity, if I were to ask why did the chicken cross the road? how would you take that?
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:48 pm

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In post 772, KidAmn wrote:Nono is actively lurking and just hopping on to shitpost, and mahi owns a whole fleet of trawlers at this point. If for some ineffable reason we're not ejecting Guillotina, recommend either of these.
I can go Nono if a wagon rises up.
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