Two Day Penultimate Mafia (Abandoned)

[Infinity 324]

@Infinity 324, why do you always (so) suspicious about me? Among all the players here, I played with you more and in every game, I was/am (Mafia) a town. You should familiar with my playstyle (town playstyle at least) already.

I think it's because I don't understand your playstyle that well, and I TR people whose playstyle I understand very easily.

[Salsabil Faria]

@Infinity 324, why do you always (so) suspicious about me? Among all the players here, I played with you more and in every game, I was/am (Mafia) a town. You should familiar with my playstyle (town playstyle at least) already.

I think it's because I don't understand your playstyle that well, and I TR people whose playstyle I understand very easily.

That makes sense, sometimes I also don't what I'm doing!
Btw, what do you think about

DkKoba

rn? Though I bought the 'emotional act of them' earlier, my gut says another thing. Especially, 474 pings me a lot.

[Infinity 324]

I think I'm leaning town on koba atm, but it's hard to explain why

[Salsabil Faria]

@Infinity 324, why do you always (so) suspicious about me? Among all the players here, I played with you more and in every game, I was/am (Mafia) a town. You should familiar with my playstyle (town playstyle at least) already.

I think it's because I don't understand your playstyle that well, and I TR people whose playstyle I understand very easily.

That makes sense, sometimes I also don't what I'm doing!
Btw, what do you think about

DkKoba

rn? Though I bought the 'emotional act of them' earlier, my gut says another thing. Especially, 474 pings me a lot.

Gahhh....
don't know*

[morph the cat]

^ not-FBI post

agree

unvote:

Salsa,

mastina is the player here with the most experience with both morph heads. mara and I played together a lot until about 2015 I think. Then we both didn't play much until this year. I don't think my playstyle has changed that much, except that I don't hate drawing scum roles to the extent I did back then. pooky has played 3 games with me/hydras, including one scum game. His meta is shallow, but recent.

[DkKoba]

@Infinity 324, why do you always (so) suspicious about me? Among all the players here, I played with you more and in every game, I was/am (Mafia) a town. You should familiar with my playstyle (town playstyle at least) already.

I think it's because I don't understand your playstyle that well, and I TR people whose playstyle I understand very easily.

That makes sense, sometimes I also don't what I'm doing!
Btw, what do you think about

DkKoba

rn? Though I bought the 'emotional act of them' earlier, my gut says another thing. Especially, 474 pings me a lot.

what pings you about it?

[DkKoba]

I think I'm leaning town on koba atm, but it's hard to explain why

did you read my gamestate post?

also ive been slowly changing my read on you over time - although i havent really expressed it out loud. there was a certain point that you did something that I felt left reasonable scumrange for you here.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah, though the game is mostly dead because it's abandoned, but I'm ok voting dunn here because PoE

VOTE: dunn

[morph the cat]

I dunno. I think dunn's crazy-theory post looks town.


Mara, mastina:

you two seem to have opposite ideas about dunnstral, unless your vote is really stale?

[Infinity 324]

I think dunn's crazy-theory post looks town.

I agree, I think most other slots have done townier things though.

[Infinity 324]

I kind of wish more people pushed me on my townreads in general, I know I TR people too easily and I'm guaranteed to be TRing scum here but people like to focus on my SRs and I don't have much to say about them

[morph the cat]

I'll have more than 2 minutes at a time to work on this tonight, and I'll go back and look at your reads.

[Infinity 324]

What you could do is pick a player(s) besides dunn and ydrasse that you think I shouldn't be townreading and I'll explain why I am.

[DkKoba]

What you could do is pick a player(s) besides dunn and ydrasse that you think I shouldn't be townreading and I'll explain why I am.

dkkoba

[DkKoba]

VOTE: dunn
not used to people finally listening to my cases but i'll take it ..

[Profgessor Emotion]

I dunno. I think dunn's crazy-theory post looks town.


Mara, mastina:

you two seem to have opposite ideas about dunnstral, unless your vote is really stale?

No, I'm null on him but supporting nastiness read

[Profgessor Emotion]

I dunno. I think dunn's crazy-theory post looks town.


Mara, mastina:

you two seem to have opposite ideas about dunnstral, unless your vote is really stale?

No, I'm null on him but supporting mastinas read

Fixed

[Profgessor Emotion]

^ not-FBI post

agree

unvote:

Salsa,

mastina is the player here with the most experience with both morph heads. mara and I played together a lot until about 2015 I think. Then we both didn't play much until this year. I don't think my playstyle has changed that much, except that I don't hate drawing scum roles to the extent I did back then. pooky has played 3 games with me/hydras, including one scum game. His meta is shallow, but recent.

I disagree with you and infinity. Her tome here is off compared to iceland don't you think?

[morph the cat]

What you could do is pick a player(s) besides dunn and ydrasse that you think I shouldn't be townreading and I'll explain why I am.

"think you shouldn't be townreading" is a bit strong for this one, but since I'm trying to unpack and weigh my salsa townread right now, maybe it's a good place to compare notes?

^ not-FBI post

agree

unvote:

Salsa,

mastina is the player here with the most experience with both morph heads. mara and I played together a lot until about 2015 I think. Then we both didn't play much until this year. I don't think my playstyle has changed that much, except that I don't hate drawing scum roles to the extent I did back then. pooky has played 3 games with me/hydras, including one scum game. His meta is shallow, but recent.

I disagree with you and infinity. Her tome here is off compared to iceland don't you think?

Her tone is definitely different here than in the Iceland game. This is actually the first game that I've played with Salsa. Cabd just finished a newbie game with scum-Salsa last week.

In the Iceland game, she was severely tilted by floo, was super angry, and basically ragequit. There hasn't been that kind of trigger/conflict in this game, so I wouldn't expect her play here to be similar, at least in that respect.

I also spectated the early part of notsci's panic room open. She was town in that game, and I feel like her play here is more similar to that game, at least in terms of emotional content.

She was also less volatile as scum in bork's forkula newbie I linked. I thought she played the day game there quite well, and I felt like whoever was scum in that game didn't play optimally in terms of night kills. BUT! she made it to 3p lylo so those kills weren't exactly terrible either. I was glad I wasn't in the game needing to make the right call on day 5. Anyway, Cabd did make the right call and elimmed her. He had vague townfeels here, I think.

The post that caused my read to tilt townward is this one:

Y u tryna rush so badly?

I've figured it all out... Pooky and Morph cats are actually both FBI agents together; Pooky is pushing Morph so poorly that it actually results in people not wanting to get Morph at all. All the while people call pooky town for pretty much no reason at all, or just for pushing one thing.

I did it guys. Alright, let's get him out of here.

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Dunny, you worded this like it was a joke

You keep calling it stupid but from where I'm standing I'm not seeing any reasons for it being stupid aside from some people who seemingly don't understand what I'm saying arguing that scum wouldn't bus

But here, you're treating it as if you actually completely believe in it

Which is it?

I'm willing to entertain it as a theory of what is possibly going on but I'm not locked in. 411 still applies

This possibility also can be happened: FBI!you want to save partner

morph the cat

here, by diverting attention towards

PookyTheMagicalBear

?

Which possibility do you think is more likely?

Not sure tbh. If

PookyTheMagicalBear

is an FBI here, why they're playing like this? Though I'm not familiar with their town/scum play style, still doesn't make sense that why they will play like this which can backfire to themselves??

I kinda expected her to sense a trap in my question if she's fbi and react cautiously. Instead, I felt like she just voiced some genuine confusion about the two possibilities.

[Infinity 324]

771 is the type of post that someone makes and I write them off as town for the rest of the game because it's very difficult to fake, maybe looking at her scum meta could help verify that. There's a ton of passion that goes into that post and it's pretty far removed from a scum motivation. Your last point is a good one too.

[Infinity 324]

I'm realizing now too that it can be pretty difficult to engage my TRs. But at least getting input on where else I could be looking is helpful.

[morph the cat]

Yeah, 771 is good, too. I was kinda sold based on how she answered my question in 485, given where her vote was at that point: her vote disagreeing with her reasoning in 444.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah I probably am weighting that less heavily than I should because I was more disengaged with the game at the time

What if hectic is scum? He was nommed for DC and he's not, like, bleeding obvtown, idk

[morph the cat]

I'm probably not being wary enough, but his stances make so much sense to me. lots of thinking what I'm thinking going on. which isn't a totally dependable basis for a read, but I still like to see it happen.

I feel like when a player doesn't know me well enough to try and tailor their reads to how I approach games, it's often a good yardstick when we sync in semi real time. this is the second game I've played with hectic, and he was disengaged enough in the first that I doubt he can predict my reactions to game data anywhere near well enough to match this often by design.

[morph the cat]

also, I just don't have even the slightest sense that he's trying to sync? like in this gamestate, nobody really needs to win me over.