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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 pm

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In post 257, skitter30 wrote:also is your argument for why conftowning people in the little group bad largely solely based on who's in it or ...
i'm kinda rambling as i think through this but let's say infinity is scum, we flip her today, say i die tonight. are you basically arguing that in that scenario we'd want town-you to be conftowned later so we shouldn't try to flip scum-infinity today ? or am i missing something. or if you die we'd want me to be conftowned later? either way we'd have a conftown through the end of day2, no? that's p good?
If we conftown players in the small pool D1, they're both dead before XLO. It's the same principle as keeping masons hidden as long as possible. Having conftown early is actually pretty useless comparitively.

Also, from a gamestate perspective, we're guaranteed to have at worst a 50/50 at 5p XLO if we go big pool first. I'm not going to say that the possibility of scum fearkilling one of us out of the little pool isn't a factor (it is) but even without it the flip of the bigpool scum IS more informative than the flip of the little pool scum.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 pm

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In post 272, skitter30 wrote:
In post 268, Ydrasse wrote:skitter just townread me this game to make up for that normal :3
i'm not quite there yet but i will most certainly be more Judicious and Thoughtful in how i try to read you :)
i have a hard hitting secret i can share that will make you TOWNLOCK ME....

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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 pm

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Like, I was scum with murder and gamma in panic room, that was the dream scumteam. I gave my 100%.

PEdit: ydrasse I thought you were gonna put the lashing out gif in the spoiler
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 pm

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Ydrasse is probably the person best able to pocket me on site atm so her being in a hood with me is lowkey suspicious but I’m also not sure she’d do me so dirty in post if that were the case
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:10 pm

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In post 268, Ydrasse wrote:skitter just townread me this game to make up for that normal :3
I tr ydrasse to make up for being mean to her in the normal >.>

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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:11 pm

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I said she was town in the normal so I get to read her however I want here
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 pm

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In post 277, Infinity 324 wrote:Like, I was scum with murder and gamma in panic room, that was the dream scumteam. I gave my 100%.

PEdit: ydrasse I thought you were gonna put the lashing out gif in the spoiler
FUCK you're right

okay okay here oh god im panicking oh god here i have to throw it up now

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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 pm

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In post 269, Infinity 324 wrote:-What do you mean "approaching this"? I voted you which is like the only indication that I suspected you more? And I didn't know jingle was a particularly good scum player at first so idk what you're on about
-You're very wrong and I don't believe you believe that
-Jingle convinced me that it's better for whichever of you is town to be alive for longer, so 6p I guess
- uh see posts , , , and , am i *not* supposed to be thinking that you suspect me more? you vote me, say 'skitt is good at scum and expecting us to hunt in the 3p first' and then tell me to fite you ...
- i mean you kinda have to say that
- two things here: a) i think you came into this game expecting 3p to be where the action would be, and were setting up your entrance around that. b) i don't really know what you found so convincing around his argument

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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 pm

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i still cant believe you didnt BELIEVE me pooky

also hehe... townread right then... right... you want to townread me? (: haha
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 pm

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Skitt also knows that I struggle under pressure as town generally, so the plan is to elim me d1 and then NK jingle
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 pm

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I was just sad you didn't help me yeet Farkran

if you had given me your vote I would've put you on my locktown ride or die squad
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 pm

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In post 284, Infinity 324 wrote:Skitt also knows that I struggle under pressure as town generally, so the plan is to elim me d1 and then NK jingle
y would she nightkill jingle there
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 pm

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My reads were so good that game
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 pm

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In post 271, Menalque wrote:
In post 243, Menalque wrote:
In post 210, skitter30 wrote:
In post 72, Menalque wrote:Yah I think the problem with putting myself in with skitt would be the paranoia, esp in the 3p
ngl i was kinda thinking you were being +town for you until you said this
but this *does* make me paranoid ^
btw skitt i don’t understand why this makes u paranoid
first i thought that scum-you *would* put yourself with me, so the fact that we aren't together was a big reassuring, but then you said this which makes me think the opposite because scum-you would expect me to be paranoid of you, and i'm not in the same hood as you
but it's starting to become circular in my head a bit
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:14 pm

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At all the points where it mattered
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:15 pm

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In post 273, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 265, skitter30 wrote:i mean i think that your approach to this day has been agenda-driven sooooo
Ok I would not be approaching this with an agenda if I was scum, I would be scared shitless and mostly just trying to survive by posting nuance

That's mostly what I did in panic room, my scumrange doesn't extend far beyond that
i literally don't understand how you're approaching this as town either tho
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 288, skitter30 wrote:
In post 271, Menalque wrote:
In post 243, Menalque wrote:
In post 210, skitter30 wrote:
In post 72, Menalque wrote:Yah I think the problem with putting myself in with skitt would be the paranoia, esp in the 3p
ngl i was kinda thinking you were being +town for you until you said this
but this *does* make me paranoid ^
btw skitt i don’t understand why this makes u paranoid
first i thought that scum-you *would* put yourself with me, so the fact that we aren't together was a big reassuring, but then you said this which makes me think the opposite because scum-you would expect me to be paranoid of you, and i'm not in the same hood as you
but it's starting to become circular in my head a bit
I guess it is slightly +scum for me bc yeh I prob wouldn’t wanna be in the same hood as you (I’d isolate strong players and bus the fuck out of my buddy D1 prob) if I were scum

I think it’s just not that meaningful bc I think a decent number of people here would, if they were scum, not want us in the same hood if we’re both town
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 pm

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What I don’t get is how that’s important for whether I was being towny here in thread? @skitter
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:17 pm

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In post 274, Menalque wrote:
In post 267, skitter30 wrote:think that vander is town
Explain this take too pls
uh everything that he says is just that pure townie tone and it's very clear he believes in what he's saying and that he thinks that everyone's being silly for proposing something as suboptimal as flipping in 6p and he keeps trying to explain why and his whole pov is just very consistent
and he had a line saying something like 'i don't care if the game takes longer i just want to win' and it was very townie - i'll try to find it
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:18 pm

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In post 282, skitter30 wrote:
In post 269, Infinity 324 wrote:-What do you mean "approaching this"? I voted you which is like the only indication that I suspected you more? And I didn't know jingle was a particularly good scum player at first so idk what you're on about
-You're very wrong and I don't believe you believe that
-Jingle convinced me that it's better for whichever of you is town to be alive for longer, so 6p I guess
- uh see posts , , , and , am i *not* supposed to be thinking that you suspect me more? you vote me, say 'skitt is good at scum and expecting us to hunt in the 3p first' and then tell me to fite you ...
- i mean you kinda have to say that
- two things here: a) i think you came into this game expecting 3p to be where the action would be, and were setting up your entrance around that. b) i don't really know what you found so convincing around his argument

pedit i'm working on it >.>
1. The first 2 posts were made before I was informed that jingle was good at scum, was bringing up a possibility and was pretty tongue-in-cheek
3. I was yeah. Also, having a strong townie alive for longer seems good? If scum wants to kill in the 3p group when we're not limming there then great imo (but I haven't super thought it through)

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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:18 pm

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In post 291, Menalque wrote:I think it’s just not that meaningful bc I think a decent number of people here would, if they were scum, not want us in the same hood if we’re both town

I think I'm the only person in this PL who would want to be in a 3P hood with you and skitter and enjoy it.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:19 pm

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In post 286, Menalque wrote:
In post 284, Infinity 324 wrote:Skitt also knows that I struggle under pressure as town generally, so the plan is to elim me d1 and then NK jingle
y would she nightkill jingle there
She wouldn't I'm an idiot
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:19 pm

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In post 245, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 234, Vanderscamp wrote:Why do you not think it can be skitt as scum who decides to scum read you?
I'd think that it would be too hard for scum!her to justify, but maybe she can anyway. I'm not sure. I feel like I'm already kind of out of my scumrange though, and will get more so as the game goes on.
Why are you out of your scunrange?
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:19 pm

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I think vanders is very null
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:20 pm

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In post 295, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 291, Menalque wrote:I think it’s just not that meaningful bc I think a decent number of people here would, if they were scum, not want us in the same hood if we’re both town

I think I'm the only person in this PL who would want to be in a 3P hood with you and skitter and enjoy it.
I find this very believable, depending on who no face is
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