MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[Korina]

The only case where it's Town!Vax stopping me from shooting him is if he's a rb'er, and he rbs, but he didn't claim that, so it can't be that scenario.

[Korina]

If Vax didn't die last night, (and he didn't), I always go into d2 with Vax being the yeet. If he's town, then clearly something happened.
If he's scum, and he's not BP, then his partner rb'd me.
If he's scum, and he's bp, then we killed bp scum.

[Raya36]

Town that think Vax is town or that think you're scum maybe

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #3

Korina (1) - Vaxkiller (881)
Vaxkiller (1) - Korina (823)
Not Voting (10) - Flea The Magician, Guillotina, TemporalLich, KidAmn, Raya36, Almost50, VFP, CaptainS, mahimahi, samantha97

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Saturday, April 17, 2021 9:00:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-17 21:00:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Friday, April 9, 2021 8:00:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-09 20:00:00).

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Pronoun Key

1. mahimahi : They/Them
2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
4. TemporalLich : He/Him
5. Guillotina : He/Him
6. Korina : They/Them (Preferred) or He/Him
7. Almost50 : He/Him
8. VFP : They/Them
9. KidAmn : They/Them
11. samantha97 : Any/Any
12. CaptainS : Any/Any
13. Vaxkiller : Any/Any

[Vaxkiller]

Korina is mafia/werewolf/cult who felt the need to lie about their cult pick to downplay it's power level and to not have us fear the possibility of them getting cult

Korina's made like 153774739 cult roles in the grand idea thread and 90% of them are better than a boring 1-shot deathproof cult leader

-mahi

Most of my cult roles become vanilla Cult Leader if there is no Cult Leader in the game. FMPOV, I’m the *only* one submitting cult, so I *have* to pick CL. I also want to maximize my chances of survival as CL, so I pick deathproof. Deathproof renders me immune to one death, whether elimination, dayvig, nk, or anything. *Once.* Anyone saying that’s broken is just wrong about it. If you try to eliminate me, you know I can’t be eliminated at day, so a vigi shoots me. If I get shot at night by a vigi, they just claim and you elim me.

[Vaxkiller]

You talked about it.

[Raya36]

Going back through again since I skimmed really quick the first time

I checked korina and they are cult.

VAX I'M A FUCKING MILLER, OF COURSE I FLIPPED CULT.

So I asked about how the miller role Korina claims would be treated by a rolecop. If Vax is truthful in being a number cop what's being claimed by Vax lines up with the answer given.

idk what's the angle for accusing someone of something that gets proven when lynched so early in the game? sacrificing 1 mafia member to get rid of the nk immune?

My thoughts exactly.

idk what's the angle for accusing someone of something that gets proven when lynched so early in the game? sacrificing 1 mafia member to get rid of the nk immune?

Vax knows he's been caught by my shot, and Mahi goes down with them, so they're trying to get rid of me in the process because I claimed miller.

This doesn't actually make much sense because Vax could be a town bulletproof for example. Not getting killed by a vig shot doesn't equal scum.

Yes, that was my third pick; however, I'm NK-Immune Miller Vig. I appear guilty

to any investigative. My actual role number is 6499, which is, you guessed it, within my ISO, because I couldn't be bothered to search elsewhere.

I SENT IN ONE-SHOT DEATHPROOF CULT LEADER, AND DIDN'T GET IT, I'M ANGRY ABOUT IT, DON'T REMIND ME I DIDN'T ROLL CULT

I missed this on my first skim but this is important. Korina got caught in a lie here.

You're also claiming to have checked a claimed miller, which makes zero sense to me.

If I had that kind of investigative I would've investigated you too to be fair

VOTE: Korina
Sorry Korina, I really think you're cult here. Hope there's no hard feelings if I'm right

[samantha97]

VOTE: Korina
Sorry Korina, I really think you're cult here. Hope there's no hard feelings if I'm right

yeah I only hope there's hard feelings if we're wrong VOTE: Korina

[Guillotina]

VAX I'M A FUCKING MILLER, OF COURSE I FLIPPED CULT.

Millers dont show as cults in investigation checks.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: KORINA

[samantha97]

btw can we fast night this pls

[Guillotina]

btw can we fast night this pls

UNVOTE: Korina

Now that Korina is outed. Why did Nono die? Why Nono, out of all people?

[Guillotina]

hello~ be here soon

@Nono - how long will you be on V/LA for?

xD

glad to be mentioned, feeling appreciated
not v/la, or yet, anyway

reading now)

I tried for wolf twilight extender and didnt get it.

kek, my dude)

first thoughts,, korina pulling the same thing as last time, doesn't inspire good feelings
true, claim is convenient for scum,, it's begging not to be shot,, on other hand, can confirm role is in iso,, the question is, what does korina choose as town, if town?

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&user_select%5 ... &start=200

Just read this

Are you seriously telling me Korina picks 1-shot deathproof cult leader over the busted cult roles they've come up with? Like, you can find stuff in there like ELITE CULT LEADER THAT LITERALLY CANNOT DIE BY ANY MEANS UNTIL DAY 4 AND CAN RECEUIT 2 PLAYERS PER NIGHT or something like that, and cultmafia roles which combine the mafia and cult factions and other ridiculous busted things

-mahi

different hand,, can see this,, maybe korina is cult after all, to lie about the cult role they submitted
can see moderator downgrading the role, but does not change the submission claim
inclined to believe,, because, small detail,, 1-shot deathproof was the first role in the iso, easiest to pick
however, since deathproof is a real possibility, the best option is to leash the vig, at least for now,, it's a problem for another time

reading along,, it's exciting
mahi, making sense to me,, will not claim,, instead, will send a present tonight, keep eye out)
suppose can go korina,, don't see why we can't try the scum claim, even if it might not work, will get information

read too much, need to rest,, unlike me

v/la 28 hours

what is this game xD
to be honest, not feeling it,, too many people are pure confusing
temporal maybe the most uncontaminated of them all, early reads town)

I'm not pulling the same thing as last time Nono. The same thing would be CLAIMING THAT I'M TOAD FROM MARIO, A SURVIVOR WITH A POST RESTRICTION WHERE I MUST TALK IN ALL CAPS OR I DIE.
I also don't like your insinuation that you *know* I'm scum again, when I know for a fact I'm a townie.
I would honest to god shoot you tonight, but a bullet goes to Vax tonight. You get shot tomorrow unless you flip. Sorry Nono, but I genuinely can't read you, and I want you out.
As for town roles that I pick, I literally said I submitted NK-Immune Miller Vig, or I would've submitted a Miller role just because I think it's funny. Alternatively, barring any of those, I would've submitted a vigi, because we know there are a lot of townies in this game, and I have a substantially higher chance of shooting not town, considering people can pick an IC, or clear themselves with town roles.

what?!?!? of course not, no xD can't seriously have that as a point or expect you to do that, that's too on the nose
meant attitude, vibe,, claiming survivor or nk-immune vig, which would is a good claim for scum
never had insinuation i knew you were scum, was just thinking from that perspective,, how is thinking you are scum scummy, anyhow
of course you say that, was rhetorical question though, can't just believe you on word of mouth now

wondering what your townplay is like,, all i think now is wanting everyone who dislikes you gone, feels TERRIBLE,, it isn't scumhunting, only barring not knowing how town!you plays

I'm claiming a confirmable role. If I was claiming survivor again, sure, I'd get it. I'm not. I'm claiming vigilante. I can literally claim the kill I do, and prove I can at least kill people. If I don't kill someone, and I wasn't RB'd/hit immune, then you have plausible reason to kill me.

also, can just be scum xD (but we won't mention it so everyone will forget)

i'll trust in fish also, today) VOTE: korina

We've got nono whose name is apparently what they say when asked for input judging by their post count

funny xD

you can ask, kid,, will answer, just for you)

game is funny, in the worst way kek

gullio can be town, playing similar to last game, maybe
let's vote korina so we can get started on twilight early (joke) xD

Only player Nono suspected was Korina, but given Korina is a cult. Who else had reason to kill Nono?

[Raya36]

Good question. A nono kill doesn't make sense from korina because korina is supposedly cult. Maybe scum trying to frame korina to get rid of cult/NK-immune? Neither of those possibilities would be good for scum.
Nono didn't really express any other reads so that's my best guess.

[Korina]

VAX I'M A FUCKING MILLER, OF COURSE I FLIPPED CULT.

Millers dont show as cults in investigation checks.

This is GIM. Millers return mafia to cops. Wolf to seers. Cult to PIs. SK to FBI agents. Not town to bloodhounds, etc.

[Korina]

Yes, I lied about my third pick because I changed it last minute before going to bed, and waking up for work the next day. So what? The fact that I got so many votes so quickly makes me think scum is trying to push this.

[Korina]

I have a shit memory. I forgot I changed it, and I couldn’t be bothered to check it. I literally checked it after Vax’s claim.
Also, @raya, town rbing me makes zero sense unless it’s Vax. We can afford for me to misshoot n1, so rbing me on n1 to prevent the misshoot makes no sense

[Raya36]

Yes, I lied about my third pick because I changed it last minute before going to bed, and waking up for work the next day. So what? The fact that I got so many votes so quickly makes me think scum is trying to push this.

Scum probably would want to push cult

[Korina]

I’m not cult. Scum would want to push me regardless because I can’t be killed at night.
Also, Vax can’t be town bp, because he’d have claimed he was bp by now.

[Raya36]

@raya, town rbing me makes zero sense unless it’s Vax. We can afford for me to misshoot n1, so rbing me on n1 to prevent the misshoot makes no sense

But my point about vax maybe being a bulletproof for example in this context could be true. So it's odd you assumed he is scum and role blocking you.
Pretty confident you're cult

[Raya36]

I’m not cult. Scum would want to push me regardless because I can’t be killed at night.
Also, Vax can’t be town bp, because he’d have claimed he was bp by now.

Yeah so the point about scum pushing this doesnt mean anything because its nai

[Korina]

Scum push me irregardless of me being cult or town. I’m merely pointing out that there is without a doubt scum on my wagon.

[samantha97]

forgetting =/= lying

[Guillotina]

Good question. A nono kill doesn't make sense from korina because korina is supposedly cult. Maybe scum trying to frame

korina to get rid of cult/NK-immune

? Neither of those possibilities would be good for scum.
Nono didn't really express any other reads so that's my best guess.

How would scum know Korina is cult though? Because Korina always chooses cults?

[VFP]

VOTE: Vakkiller

I can tell you now that Vaxkiller is lying.