MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]
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I think we should fade korina. They are too excited and probably lying. I think the shot went through and we fade liars. Some interesting rules in effect.- Vaxkiller
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If Korina is telling the truth, we fade whats thier name.- Vaxkiller
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I dont get it, whats the point of a 1 shot cult? Deathproof.... like you cant die at all? That seems TOO bastard.- Vaxkiller
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VOTE: Korina
mahimahi is town, or at least acting like town at the moment, and yea, korina is lying.- Vaxkiller
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I tried for wolf twilight extender and didnt get it.- Vaxkiller
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I bet Korinas a mafia cultist or something weird like that, hence why we have resistance for thier wagon.- Vaxkiller
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Does anyone want to claim now for some Vax points?- Vaxkiller
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Are you in the "cultfia" with them? (one of the many roles by korina)In post 201, Raya36 wrote:I honestly just think Mahi vs Korina is a TvT fight- Vaxkiller
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We arent waiting for night. Korina fades today.- Vaxkiller
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In post 210, Korina wrote:Everyone pushing me is scum.- Vaxkiller
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In post 216, VFP wrote:If I keep you alive do you promise to recruit me if you're cult?In post 217, Korina wrote:I’m only immune at night, not at day, so you *have* to be lying.
Pedit: yesWHAT am i reading? New levels of open-culting
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You appear to be voting myself and mahi for things you don't like, but not for things that are scummy.In post 234, Flea The Magician wrote:Spoiler: But, behind my enemies eyesSpoiler: Sending disguise...Spoiler: Not only lies...
Spoiler: We live to fight the hand of doom!
VOTE: Vaxkiller for 168
VOTE: Mahi for 184- Vaxkiller
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Yea i really don't like the fake claim. This one wasnt very organic.- Vaxkiller
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The reaction test went on too long, or did I miss a post from earlier?- Vaxkiller
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@raya,In post 242, Raya36 wrote:Don't know what to think of this. This is a bold way to role hunt if you're scum.
That's where im at. If they are scum, and it's a fake claim, the person on the OTHER end will know if they are lying eventually.
So I'm leaning town I guess.- Vaxkiller
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I'm starting to scum lean mahi- Vaxkiller
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In post 275, Almost50 wrote:
OK, let ME be clear too:In post 171, KidAmn wrote:To be clear - Korina absolutely has to die *at some point* IMO due to the Miller claim. The question, I suspect, is really whether we want to trust their claim and leash them as a vigilante, or try and remove the doubt before they could potentially get out of hand with a cult if they're lying.
1- I am fully against yeeting Korina today
2- I am fully against leashing Korina tonight
3- Korina should shoot whomever he thinks is the best target
4- Korina will be sorted sooner than later by one role or another (I refuse to believe none of you picked an investigative)
5- If it does look like (a) The Town is losing, and (b) Korina's kills suck.. THEN I will consider yeeting him
WHY such the hardline on korina?- Vaxkiller
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In post 72, Korina wrote:I told you, I'm nk-proof.
Here is the problem I have: Korina uses bad logic to explain why they are still alive from the fake shot, its just blatant lies. Why would anyone think that extends to the day? If they were town, or their "claimed" role, they would be reacting differently.... not using logic like "my nk-proof ability protected me in the daytime"In post 73, Korina wrote:I don't know why that would extend to the day, but I feel like you're lying about it anyways.- Vaxkiller
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Rofl. I'll give you a vax point for this post.In post 289, TemporalLich wrote:yeah that smells like fakeclaim to me, and town logic from vaxkiller
At this point I don't know who to vote but unvoting in Day 1 would be scummy especially considering the scum side of my read list isn't empty.- Vaxkiller
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I don't get it. You and temp lich agree its a good point, probably the most concrete one we have in the game so far... but you are unwilling to fade korina? Why?In post 291, Raya36 wrote:This is actually a good point. I still don't want Korina eliminated but something to keep in mind
I mean it doesnt have to be right this moment, but it should be at some point.- Vaxkiller
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This just reads "look im doing towny things, and have a towny thought process", instead of doing what everyone else would do with a vig.... shoot someone you think is scum and shrug it off if they arent.In post 308, Korina wrote:@A50, I'm not planning on shooting tonight, because I wanna see how many kills we have, excluding me. At most, we can have literally six SKs, but more pragmatically speaking, we probably have Mafia + SK/WW. Not only that, but we have majority throughout most of the game, so unless we lose three townies tonight, I'm not gonna shoot until I'm certain someone will flip scum.
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I picked a dayvig, but that was my mafia pick.
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Yes, I would, because I think picking NK-Immune Miller Vig is actually a really smart move on my end. You can eliminate the odds of me being SK entirely, because I obviously pick Cult, meaning I'm either BP scum, or actually telling the truth.
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If you recruit me, im going to be so pissed.
Here is my canary in the coal mine: If I'm suddenly complacent, kill me.- Vaxkiller
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@guil
Double posting is ok, but try not to.... multiple posting in a row is a no-no.
There are more, but those are the ones I noticed you breaking.- Vaxkiller
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No.
Post 69 was town, and the the train left the station at post 72. Town doesnt say post 72.
No.
Is everyone scum or something else but me?- Vaxkiller
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I checked because I forgot.
My twilight extender that I did not get was a mafia extender not wolf.
I also went for an SK that gets thier day vig reloaded anytime someone asks me if I have a post restriction. (I really wanted this one, the other role was just a troll, and the one I got I didnt put alot of thought or searching into)- Vaxkiller
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I'm a gambler in my gaming, not life.- Vaxkiller
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CaptainS with a huge bombshell of a post on the game state.- Vaxkiller
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@Capn
Id say we are at a medium level of activity for this type of game on this site. Some of us def talk more than others.
As for claims, eh, not totally unusual for this type of game. Id say the act of claiming isnt really AI, but more in how its presented.
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I like Korina as much as the next person, but, they need voted out.
This is not "fear" of the possibility or anything, I know some of you are friends with Korina, but it's a game, and as I see it, Korina has got to go. I've posted my thoughts on it and I get agreement, but no votes, and it gets explained away (maybe another day, but I know them, someone even said "they deserve the win if they are cult" <--- Lol why? It's been pointed out its a possibility!, some of you are just roflcoptering asking to be recruited!)
Korina is today's fade. I'm sorry Korina, no hard feelings, it just is, waht it is.- Vaxkiller
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In post 449, VFP wrote:
What an argument.In post 447, Vaxkiller wrote:It's been pointed out its a possibility
I think its possible that you're scum. Do we lim you now?
Nice manipulation of my point. And yes, generally speaking if you think someone is scum you try to elim them.- Vaxkiller
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VFP, are you for real right now or just trolling me. Like im not sure if I should even respond to you, because it looks like you just fuckin with me trying to rile me up.
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how is that "resigned"? Korina is scummy, and the people protecting them have the silliest reasons! (listed above). I ended with an "I'm sorry" because there appears to be a good handful of people in this game who just want to play with Korina.... regardless of alignment!!!!! So I want people to know I have nothing against them and enjoy playing with them, but, sorry, they are today's fade.- Vaxkiller
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I may be tunneling a little, it crossed my mind this morning. But as of this moment, they are still the best fade.In post 466, Guillotina wrote:
That is not up for you to decide alone though. Unless you are governor or a duke? Or an Executioner.In post 464, Vaxkiller wrote:VFP, are you for real right now or just trolling me. Like im not sure if I should even respond to you, because it looks like you just fuckin with me trying to rile me up.
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how is that "resigned"? Korina is scummy, and the people protecting them have the silliest reasons! (listed above). I ended with an "I'm sorry" because there appears to be a good handful of people in this game who just want to play with Korina.... regardless of alignment!!!!! So I want people to know I have nothing against them and enjoy playing with them, but, sorry, they are today's fade.- Vaxkiller
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Guil you get some Vax points.- Vaxkiller
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In post 454, VFP wrote:
Yes, and so should you.In post 450, Guillotina wrote:Do you townread Korina?
In Korina we believe! My vote sticks with Korina, not against.
Thank you!In post 451, Vaxkiller wrote:Nice manipulation of my point. And yes, generally speaking if you think someone is scum you try to elim them.
So we are agreed that there is much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim you.
That makes you look suspicious even more so.
@VFP
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is like really pissing me off because its untrue. It is not the friggin same because I have actually done the work and shown why I feel a certain way. You can say im wrong or whatever, but to actively compare and say what I have done to show Korina is scum to what you have done to show im scum (nothing besides say im scum) is just a lie and really disingenuous. THis is why I asked if you were serious or not.In post 454, VFP wrote: So we are agreed that there is much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim you.
To clarify in case its not clear/TLDR
Your comparison of your non existent thoughts on me, to my thoughts on korina - being equal is a lie.- Vaxkiller
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Case on korina:
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A50's thoughts:
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My rebuttal: It does not make it look any better with more context. Town does not say "My NK ability saved me" or "I dont know why that would extend to the day". TOWN DOESNT SAY THAT!!!!! Town would want to know why and not make up something that doesnt work. We all know what NK means. Korina knows what NK means. To say that the NK ability saved you during the day is a lie.
@RAYA and A50, Why does A50's "Context post" seem better? I need a deeper explaination.- Vaxkiller
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VFP's actions are not great. Will wait for them to confirm night actions.In post 481, TemporalLich wrote:VFP feels kinda sketchy with that claim but I kinda want to see it play out... Vax is almost openwolfing
Not sure why you think im open wolfing.- Vaxkiller
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How is trying to get korina elim "open wolfing"? How is my (admitted) tunneling "open wolfing"? Like tunneling may be AI for a few people, but far from the majority. I mentioned it, because I realized im getting distracted from the rest of the gamestate.In post 496, TemporalLich wrote:
you're trying to get Korina limed and not even hiding that you're hopelessly tunneled but also know too muchIn post 484, Vaxkiller wrote:
VFP's actions are not great. Will wait for them to confirm night actions.In post 481, TemporalLich wrote:VFP feels kinda sketchy with that claim but I kinda want to see it play out... Vax is almost openwolfing
Not sure why you think im open wolfing.
I know too much????? Like what?- Vaxkiller
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Disagree on all points, but this:
In post 504, TemporalLich wrote:Also you know too much... like Korina isn't your partner
lol wth is this???? You say I'm scum because I know too much... and this is what I know too much?- Vaxkiller
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I swear your a jester Temp- Vaxkiller
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Your reactions are too much. Never really played with you before to my knowledge tho.- Vaxkiller
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V/LA due to holiday. Ill try to be on a little- Vaxkiller
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Also. I can confirm my alignment and 1 other during this day, so fuck the fuck off. Only end the day if ur scum.- Vaxkiller
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I checked korina and they are cult.- Vaxkiller
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I dont even know why I bothered checking- Vaxkiller
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THey (korina) recruit ppl and they keep thier original role- Vaxkiller
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No. I know your exact role.
Sorry Korina. I'm not trying to be a jerk here and pick on you or anything. I know everyone else here wanted that to play out for you.- Vaxkiller
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Im the role mahi mahi claimed. I said I could clear myself because I thought he was telling the truth and there is something that could be checked about my role that they could answer... and would also confirm me- Vaxkiller
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Talked at length about what i could and could not ask about the role.... turns out they were lying anyway... and good thing. ELsewise korina would have probably culted me!- Vaxkiller
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mahi mahi didnt know. BUt he claimed the same role. I didnt say anything, because its specifically mentioned by the mod that this could happen. (I thought it might be true due to this honestly)In post 834, samantha97 wrote:what is korina's role name & why did mahi know the role you had- Vaxkiller
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No he said he was a number cop.In post 836, Korina wrote:Mahi claimed to guess two people's roles, and be told how many were right, or wrong, but not which ones, and get doctor heals from it. Not role-cops. You're lying.- Vaxkiller
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Thats not it. He mentioned somethign else later.- Vaxkiller
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When he said this. I assumed he had the same role as me.In post 494, mahimahi wrote:if so, i can confirm your exact role with alignment, as in the exact post from the grand idea thread- Vaxkiller
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Here is the whole postIn post 494, mahimahi wrote:but can your role ability come with different alignments in the grand idea thread?
if so, i can confirm your exact role with alignment, as in the exact post from the grand idea thread
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If he were my partner, I would have the "fake story" right. I only know waht I read from waht he said. - Vaxkiller
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