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Post Post #20 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:00 am

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ska77=hectic
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Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:00 am

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HEAL: hectic
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Post Post #26 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:09 am

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I really don't think we should express opinions on ourselves being healed here
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Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:20 am

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In post 4, Isis wrote:
It is confirmed that the only two role PMs in the game are those two. No one will receive a followup PM about additional powers during gamestart.
Nevermind, I missed this
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Post Post #29 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:22 am

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I'm used to closed implying "there are PRs in the game"
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:26 am

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I think isis pretended to hate ss3 but really she just wanted to do the same setup as a micro and is out-mod-WIFOMing all of us
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Post Post #34 (isolation #6) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:30 am

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Oh I get it it's a reverse ss3. There's only 1 scum but if we heal them we lose and then half the townies are randomly killed on n1
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Post Post #36 (isolation #7) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:39 am

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I think serious speculation about the setup is probably not that useful until we get more info, though probably more useful than in a hectic setup.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #8) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:11 am

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I really just can't TR you anymore
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Post Post #51 (isolation #9) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:28 am

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HURT: hectic
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Post Post #53 (isolation #10) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:39 am

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So much has happened in the game and they haven't even obvtowned yet!
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Post Post #65 (isolation #11) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:57 am

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I want to be townread for making a funny rules joke too
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Post Post #67 (isolation #12) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:58 am

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Wow mean
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Post Post #71 (isolation #13) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:03 am

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I already used all my jokes :(

Also I want to heal someone I'm more confident I can read
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Post Post #72 (isolation #14) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:05 am

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The closest to that is ydrasse in this game tbh

Ydrasse you better be town
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Post Post #73 (isolation #15) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:06 am

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HEAL: tris
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Post Post #75 (isolation #16) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:08 am

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Wow I thought you would keep up the act a little longer

This time I don't have my role PM to help me
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Post Post #91 (isolation #17) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:24 pm

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HEAL: flea you can't tell me what to do
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Post Post #96 (isolation #18) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:07 pm

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In post 94, Isis wrote:heal tags for players whose names have been abbreviated in a way that is not a typo or nickname
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Post Post #97 (isolation #19) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:09 pm

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flea the magician = flea
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Post Post #98 (isolation #20) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:10 pm

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PookyTheMagicalBear = pooky
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Post Post #100 (isolation #21) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:33 pm

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In post 99, tris wrote:should i conclude that you can read me well?
No, but I've gotten some townvibes from you so far. (I'm keeping my heal on you)

Also yeah since ydrasse is the only person I have a decent idea of how to read, I might heal other people I guess, but not flea or alisae or cakez who I'm actively awful at reading.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #22) » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:40 pm

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The pooky votes shouldn't have worked I guess
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Post Post #120 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:40 am

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In post 110, Sha 77 wrote:Isis just discounted the earlier votes because they weren't full names
This, also flea I see what you're trying to do but I think it has to be a single post with a single nickname.

Also where is everyone >_<

Can we talk about whether hectic's entrance was towny? I want to say it was, but I don't see why it couldn't be faked
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Post Post #121 (isolation #24) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:48 am

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Oh I get it.

Ydrasse is lashing out because she's scum
Andres is not posting because he's not confident in his scumgame
Pooky isn't posting content because they're scum and trying to make friends with people
Hectic had trouble keeping up his alt because he's scum and keeping up 2 acts at once was too hard
Alisae is tilted that e rolled scum again after one night stand and e doesn't want to even try this time
Flea is trying to fake faer whimsical towngame but is avoiding posting content because fae is scum

Me/tris/cakez are the only townies I solved the game
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Post Post #126 (isolation #25) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:33 am

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In post 122, tris wrote:see 99
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying there, how did you get hectic scum from that?
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Post Post #128 (isolation #26) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:39 am

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I guess I just don't get what you're saying there
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Post Post #130 (isolation #27) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:02 am

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I guess the other thing is that it read as tongue-in-cheek to me, and my gut says that scum is more likely to make their "towny" observations look serious but idk
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Post Post #132 (isolation #28) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:06 am

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I've never played with hectic!scum, since I know he's a strong scum player it seems like a silly reason but the gut is still there
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Post Post #137 (isolation #29) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:31 am

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@hectic Have you played with flea before? It doesn't seem out of character for faer
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Post Post #140 (isolation #30) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:34 am

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And you were modding ss3, right.

Am I missing an alt or are my only completed games with you matrix decipher and we need a fifth?
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Post Post #143 (isolation #31) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:39 am

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In post 141, Sha 77 wrote:Hectic are lesser known alts of mine
Wait seriously? You just blew my mind
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Post Post #159 (isolation #32) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:52 pm

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Explain?
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Post Post #161 (isolation #33) » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:55 pm

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The heal, lol
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Post Post #173 (isolation #34) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:52 am

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Oh happy birthday!
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Post Post #175 (isolation #35) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:56 am

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I could see it. Cakez's push pinged me at first but I've had trouble reading him in the past and he feels kind of similar to when I played with town!him recently
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Post Post #181 (isolation #36) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:08 am

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In post 179, Andresvmb wrote:my best bet at correctly guessing someone’s alignment is probably Ydrasse
Yeah she just has to post!
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Post Post #199 (isolation #37) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:32 am

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In post 193, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 100, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 99, tris wrote:should i conclude that you can read me well?
No, but I've gotten some townvibes from you so far. (I'm keeping my heal on you)

Also yeah since ydrasse is the only person I have a decent idea of how to read, I might heal other people I guess, but not flea or alisae or cakez who I'm actively awful at reading.
ah i see i ... think? healing elsewhere until you see me post?
Yeah I also thought someone might ask about it

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Post Post #200 (isolation #38) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:32 am

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In post 198, Ydrasse wrote:i feel like i've played a game with tris before at some point, marathon weekend or something? where i thought she was very obvious scum and i turned out to be entirely wrong on that because i have no fucking clue how to read her and she sounds like scum to me by default

this game i feel like at surface level everything is fine but she's so self-confident about getting her heals in mentally i'm like, does scum just Go for it. do they just try to look cool and get votes? it makes me feel weird reading her posts but beyond that i don't have a good reason why
My personality read on tris is that she wouldn't be confident enough as scum to be campaigning for heals
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Post Post #206 (isolation #39) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:15 am

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Is there a reason why you didn't say that to begin with?
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Post Post #208 (isolation #40) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:19 am

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In post 168, SirCakez wrote:
In post 161, Infinity 324 wrote:The heal, lol
Trying something
What was this about
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Post Post #210 (isolation #41) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:42 am

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In post 209, tris wrote:how strong are you on this?
Medium strength
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Post Post #211 (isolation #42) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:47 am

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In post 200, Infinity 324 wrote:My personality read on tris is that she wouldn't be confident enough as scum to be campaigning for heals
tris is this true?
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Post Post #218 (isolation #43) » Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:53 pm

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We're supposed to be healing town
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In post 286, tris wrote:
In post 282, Ydrasse wrote:i am yea
the exact words spellings and capitalizations you use here make me want to trust you.
This has to be town right? I want this to be town
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Post Post #346 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:15 am

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HEAL: infinity ok with healing tris obviously but competing heal trains give more info

Flea do you have reads?
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Post Post #349 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:29 am

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Heal-1 or whatever
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Post Post #353 (isolation #47) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:58 am

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Can you like explain that
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Post Post #355 (isolation #48) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:59 am

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"as well as mine" I don't get what that means

I was hoping for something better
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Post Post #368 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:37 am

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Ydrasse feels like she's expressing herself more confidently than I'd expect from scum!ydra

I don't see all the logic behind her reads but I don't feel like I need to? I don't really agree that town!ydra would take a while to get to reads and scum!ydra wouldn't. It probably depends on the game
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Post Post #369 (isolation #50) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:38 am

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In post 366, Alisae wrote:I'm not sure what the difference is between ""i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it" and "I don’t know whether to TR this anti-Town behavior. I kind want to."
Huh? This first is a scumread and the second is a townread if anything
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Post Post #373 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:44 am

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In post 371, Alisae wrote:
In post 369, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 366, Alisae wrote:I'm not sure what the difference is between ""i think this is anti-town behavior but i still scumread it" and "I don’t know whether to TR this anti-Town behavior. I kind want to."
Huh? This first is a scumread and the second is a townread if anything
her words not mine
I see what you're saying, I'm mostly reading the way ydrasse is expressing herself rather than what she's expressing. It feels a lot like how I try to explain gut reads as town, which can be difficult to fake I think

Maybe I just don't know ydrasse's meta enough to be making these conclusions but I'm ok TRing her for now
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Post Post #375 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:49 am

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In post 374, Alisae wrote:ur first mistake is trying to explain gut reads
Could talk for a while about this, but I don't agree
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Spoiler: theory
Every gut instinct comes from somewhere. There is something you're noticing about someone's posting that you believe would be different if they were scum/town, so your goal in explaining a gut read is to find it. Sometimes it can feel like a guess, but if you practice trying to put it into words you can get better at it. You can also compare gut reads from different games and try to see what they have in common which can help too. For example a common type of gut read for me that I didn't know how to express at first was the "fake nuance" post, where scum writes more words than they really need to express something and are using that to either hedge or look town. That's not a perfect expression of the read, and you can never get to perfect with gut reads (see my sig), but you can definitely get better. At the very least, you can maybe make someone go "hmm that seems believable" if not "I'm sold, ship it"
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The other thing that I find helpful is that even if you can't explain them to others is labeling and categorizing your gut feelings in your head. I think postie used to have colors associated with them which I found super interesting, for me they're just different feelings and I eventually come up with names for them
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Post Post #408 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:56 am

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In post 393, SirCakez wrote:I think the MagicalBear is town safely
Why?

Also I hate to nitpick but I'm still curious about
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Post Post #411 (isolation #58) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:57 am

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In post 394, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 391, Infinity 324 wrote:Me me me

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don't want tris/sha?
Tris is good too, hectic idk. The way he was sorting you felt overdone somehow.
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In post 415, SirCakez wrote:
In post 408, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 393, SirCakez wrote:I think the MagicalBear is town safely
Why?

Also I hate to nitpick but I'm still curious about
oh yeah that
I wanted to see what others (including Ydrasse) would do if the wagon built up there. it did and it made me happy with town!Ydrasse
If cakez is scum, he probably came up with this answer after I asked him about it, which means this is towny I think.
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Post Post #428 (isolation #60) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:04 am

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@ydrasse I feel like he does have to go through some sort of process to sort you as scum? I'm expecting that of him, probably so are you. Maybe he just calls you town but I would've been a bit sus because it's important that the heal goes on town. It's possible I don't know hectic well enough and I'm overthinking this but yeah.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #61) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:06 am

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In post 420, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 404, SirCakez wrote:Andres and Alisae are scummy but I don't think they are both scum
I guess Tris goes in townbin by virtue of most everyone else being scummier
Flea = ???
also, can you clarify on this @cakez? do you not have any other current townreads than tris? (and me i guess because you said you're happy w town me)
Noting this for when we know more about the setup, also a reminder that we don't know how many scum there are so "town by PoE" is not a great argument
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In post 431, Ydrasse wrote:basically i think it's a lot of extra work for him if he's scum when he could just give me a townread and we could move about our merry day assuming i would think a lot less about that than i would about him coming out with a "tell", etc
I don't hate this reasoning, but I don't think it's as strong as you seem to. But you know hectic better etc
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My read on hectic is influenced by ongoing games
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Post Post #443 (isolation #64) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:23 am

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@cakez Why is pooky town?
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Post Post #444 (isolation #65) » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:24 am

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In post 440, Sha 77 wrote:
In post 434, Infinity 324 wrote:My read on hectic is influenced by ongoing games
Wait, FBI mafia is over?!?!?!? I'm confused what you mean by this
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@andres Flea isn't a stranger to this type of WIFOM as scum, in silent star 3 fae asked to be eliminated and put faer AtE in a spoiler. Not the same thing but comparable I think.
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@cakez Do you think pooky's tone is much different from divide and conquer?
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Ydrasse how confident are you that hectic is town? His posting has been pretty good but the idea of healing someone who's supposed to have a good scum game but I haven't seen it makes me queasy. I prefer healing tris
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In post 508, SirCakez wrote:can someone actually explain how Sha's posting is "good"?
Nuanced reads, I can see where he's coming from with his takes, I agree with ydrasse that him putting in a lot of effort to sort her is +town even though I don't agree with the strength of the read
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bzzzzzt

The correct answer was "soulread"

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I'm gonna feel like an idiot for saying this if I just hammered, but let's wait until we get a VC to keep healing tris/hectic
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After divide and conquer I'm tempted lol but no
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At some point I'll probably check out a scumgame or two of yours and that might make me more comfortable
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Normally if I had a scumtell on someone but they were otherwise towny I'd wait to see how things developed, it felt like hectic's original push on ydrasse could've been to show that he was trying to read her. It's true that he didn't really have to go through that much effort as scum though.
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In post 527, tris wrote:I don't follow.
Uh, basically if scum!cakez posts "trying something" and has a town motivation in mind, he'd want to share that motivation as soon as possible to look town. He didn't do that, which means if cakez is scum he probably came up with that answer after the fact. That doesn't seem super likely to me so I think the sequence was +town for cakez. Idk if that makes sense
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Flea why did you hammer I told people to wait for the VC :(

HURT: alisae for now, mainly because I'm paranoid of em and I feel varying degrees of comfortable with everyone else on the attackers list. I'd be ok leaving out pooky or maybe andres as well
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In post 574, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 572, Infinity 324 wrote:Flea why did you hammer I told people to wait for the VC :(

HURT: alisae for now, mainly because I'm paranoid of em and I feel varying degrees of comfortable with everyone else on the attackers list. I'd be ok leaving out pooky or maybe andres as well
I think this is Scum.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #78) » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:54 pm

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In post 575, Ydrasse wrote:why paranoid?
Alisae has a really good scumgame and showed in one night stand that e also can be versatile. I'm not sure why e would take the angle e took this game as scum, but meh

PEdit: andres idgi, if alisae is town we can still form an all-town bloc yeah?
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In post 584, Andresvmb wrote:In fact both the Attacker and the Healer Leaders picked Alisae for their respective Teams. Why is that the one choice you’re looking to exclude?
Andres I'm not sure why you're being like this. I don't think alisae is obvious town and I explained my reasoning, I also would be ok having alisae in a team this is a pretty ??? reason to think I'm scum
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I think if you're town you should have better reasons to SR people than "we disagree on reads" but w/e

This push is probably towny for you though tbf

PEdit: ok I will get to that tomorrow
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Oh yeah that too
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Post Post #635 (isolation #82) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:20 am

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Ali I thought I had a tell on you that would make you town here but then you made that cakez post :/
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Post Post #645 (isolation #83) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:11 am

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Andres why do you TR alisae?
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I guess so, but what is the downside from eir perspective as scum to heal someone like you? It probably wasn't going to get traction. If you're town, I don't think you're necessarily pocketed but you might be biased towards ali because e's been on your side so to speak. Like I don't think your reasoning warrants the strength of townread that you're giving.

Hectic and ydrasse have expressed their reasons for TRing ali, and I'm pretty confident ydrasse is town whereas hectic I'm probably going to sort via meta rather than direct questioning.

You seem to have felt somewhat similarly to me about ali's cakez post, so it's odd to me that you would call me scum from that. I actually don't see a ton of scum motivation in ali's play, but I have too many townreads and I'm trying to put pressure on the reads rather than writing people off as town.

If I'm town, who's scum in the attacker block?
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In post 649, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 593, Infinity 324 wrote:This push is probably towny for you though tbf
I would also like to understand this a little more. You’re implying here that I tend to be wrong as Town, or at least hinting at that. So why is Cakez so convinced I have to be Scum if I’m wrong about you?
I'm not saying you're towny because you're wrong, but the push felt very town-leadery. Like you're trying to form a bloc and pushing against people who don't agree with it, which is in character for town!you I think.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #86) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:31 am

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In post 644, Andresvmb wrote:And now they’re hinting at Alisae being Scum without coming out and saying it.
This is what I meant by calling me scum for it, it's kind of implied
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Wrt cakez, what do you mean the opposite reaction? He at least posted thoughts about what he wanted to do with the groups. I don't particularly townread cakez but I'm also more focused on the people in the groups atm.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #88) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:38 am

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In post 655, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 653, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 644, Andresvmb wrote:And now they’re hinting at Alisae being Scum without coming out and saying it.
This is what I meant by calling me scum for it, it's kind of implied
I straight up called you Scum earlier. You didn’t do it for Alisae. If you have a position, state it. Don’t be so skittish about it.
If I had a strong position on ali, you'd know
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Post Post #662 (isolation #89) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:43 am

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Yeah I'm focused on ydrasse's group atm

I get that cakez strongly disliked and scumread your push on me, but that doesn't mean one of you has to be town and the other is scum. My read on you is based on specifically how I've seen you in the past and how you approached the push, cakez SRing you is whatever and not super AI imo

PEdit: fair enough, my hurt on ali wasn't final though and I'm still figuring stuff out
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Post Post #665 (isolation #90) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:49 am

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In post 663, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 662, Infinity 324 wrote:My read on you is based on specifically how I've seen you in the past and how you approached the push, cakez SRing you is whatever and not super AI imo
You think I’m Town, and you see someone calling my positioning in the game hot garbage, voting to exclude me from the Team, and you don’t think it’s AI? So then what is?
I feel like we have very differently philosophies about this game, I focus a lot more on whether someone's play feels in character for them/whether they're tonally off
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Post Post #667 (isolation #91) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:50 am

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Pooky do you have reads
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Post Post #674 (isolation #92) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:00 am

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In post 669, Andresvmb wrote:Scum need to make sure that one of their own makes it into the volleyball Team. Positioning around it is definitely key here. And it’ll help solve the game down the line if we get it wrong. How can you just brush all of that off?
The thing is that cakez has barely any influence in this gamestate and I don't think scum!him would expect a push on you to work that well, I think scum!cakez's plan here if his buddy is not in a great position is just to try to look town

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In post 676, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 674, Infinity 324 wrote:The thing is that cakez has barely any influence in this gamestate
I don’t agree with this at all. I think SirCakez has a stronger voice than you’re giving them credit for. If you were making this argument about Flea or Pooky who barely have any reads or much input fine.
He has a loud voice but a bunch of people are SRing him and people are probably not gonna sheep his reads
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Post Post #717 (isolation #94) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:42 pm

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In post 715, Alisae wrote:
In post 635, Infinity 324 wrote:Ali I thought I had a tell on you that would make you town here but then you made that cakez post :/
I gave 6 towngames if ur reading them by isos stop you'll likely see something that you wouldn't see if u read isos. Try harder. Also that case on you in student council was mostly pre-written
How important is this, reading is the least enjoyable part of playing mafia for me
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Post Post #720 (isolation #95) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:47 pm

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Ok, who do you think is most likely scum in ydrasse's pool
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Tbh I skimmed the hectic/andres/cakez stuff and will look at that in more depth tomorrow. I'm not sure quite what hectic is doing if he's scum with cakez--if andres flips then his whole reason for townreading cakez is gone and he didn't have to put cakez on his team really (who's gonna vote for hectic's team and not hectic?)
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Post Post #734 (isolation #97) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:43 pm

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Hmm if hectic is scum I think he's scum with someone in ydrasse's group (pooky or ali?) and is pushing andres to make sure his buddy gets in
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Post Post #772 (isolation #98) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:52 am

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In post 761, Alisae wrote:why wouldn't Ydra pick Flea on her team.
Not saying ydra is scum or anything, but I don't think scum would necessarily pick their partner for the team. The chance your team gets chosen but not you seems very very low.
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Post Post #773 (isolation #99) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:05 am

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Ali why isn't it hectic/pooky?
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In post 734, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm if hectic is scum I think he's scum with someone in ydrasse's group (pooky or ali?) and is pushing andres to make sure his buddy gets in
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Post Post #873 (isolation #101) » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:01 pm

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I think andres is town and I'm not convinced hectic believes this push
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Post Post #883 (isolation #102) » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:22 pm

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In post 876, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 873, Infinity 324 wrote:I think andres is town and I'm not convinced hectic believes this push
I’m thinking of sheeping you and voting to exclude Alisae, see what that does.
Probably shouldn't do that, I've been a bit disengaged and still trying to figure stuff out
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Post Post #884 (isolation #103) » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:23 pm

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I'm ok with excluding pooky too, though my gut is telling me not to
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Post Post #923 (isolation #104) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:08 am

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In post 913, Sha 77 wrote:Hmm, interesting, Infinity seems to care a lot less about sheepin Ydrasse townreading me like she did in our last game together. The situations are the same - Infinity townreads Ydrasse, Ydrasse townreads, but Infinity's scumreading me unlike that game where she was happy to trust Ydrasse
Except they're not the same--ydrasse seems to be less confident here, you're scummier here and other people are townier. If pooky had flipped town in divide and conquer I'd probably have voted you d2
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Post Post #924 (isolation #105) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:11 am

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I want to talk to ydrasse more but she hasn't really been around
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Post Post #937 (isolation #106) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:05 am

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Alisae may not be the most likely choice to be left out, but there's still a nonzero chance right? Seems like pushing andres would still be a good play to be safe

I could see pooky doing a weird WIFOM play where they try to get townreads for not efforting. Actually you would make the most sense as pooky's partner since you're at least doing something to help get pooky in the team.

Will get quotes later
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Post Post #962 (isolation #107) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:54 am

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Anyone have questions for me to help me get more engaged? Not super feeling mafia atm
In post 671, Sha 77 wrote:
In post 171, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 121, Infinity 324 wrote:Andres is not posting because he's not confident in his scumgame
Or maybe I was busy around MY BIRTHDAY haha

To be honest, I think my Scum game is kind of decent. Not great, but decent. It’s a shame this is my 12th consecutive game rolling Town. What the hell man.
This was the first post that pinged me. Making sure to mention the fact this was his 12th game in a row rolling town, and the "what the hell man" at the end especially reads very off

@Andres:
Did you mention your town streak in the 10th or 11th game you rolled town?
This feels like a gotcha question that doesn't mean much for andres's alignment imo
In post 675, Sha 77 wrote:
In post 439, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 160, SirCakez wrote:Sha77 may legitimately be scum
Their opening was tonally weird and I hate this reaction
This just seemed too overconfident for me. Like you’re trying to get into a fight and not solve someone’s alignment. Sha said their early reads, which clearly were meant more as conversation starters than definitive pronouncements backed by multiple pages of play, weren’t actually all that serious (which again just seems reasonable to me since it’s the early part of the game). Yet you “hate” the reaction? What I would ask you is how do you not think this is a bit over the top?
I skimmed through some of your more recent posts - and now you’re constructing a universe for the game where I’m Scum because I thought maybe you pushed an argument a bit too far? Please. Unfortunately there’s an aggressiveness to it that I need to figure out where exactly it’s coming from, and whether it’s Scummy or not.
I wouldn’t vote to heal you, that’s for sure.
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- Feels like he's concerned about Cakez scumreading him so is explaining why he said what he said and is attempting to change his mind

//
- Feels the need to clarify he's not healing Cakez under any circumstances - why clarify this? It just feels tonally off

Admittedly, I'm struggling to articulate what feels
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pedit: I scumread you, Andres, but I'm not incapable of changing my mind if I'm wrong
I definitely understand struggling to articulate reads, but this doesn't feel that genuine to me. Maybe I'm just not seeing what hectic is, but the wording kinda feels off too
In post 682, Sha 77 wrote:
In post 481, Andresvmb wrote:And even if you find me Scummy, you can probably guess that I wouldn’t so openly push my Partner as the selection when they haven’t been close to the leading vote getter.
This feels like something scum are so much more likely to say, given it's a perspective that comes so much easier from scum, while as town, you'd have to actively think this is an issue for others and put yourself in that perspective
This feels like a stretch and is over-worded

I do like how hectic backed off the scumread a bit, especially since he was clearly thinking about the read overnight as either alignment. I have to meta him but I really don't want to

I'll do this for now

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Post Post #965 (isolation #108) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:31 am

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Who's scum
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Post Post #968 (isolation #109) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:40 am

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Ok, you're good at volleyball, but how do I know you're gonna show up and play
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Post Post #986 (isolation #110) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:26 pm

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Just because he mentions it one time and not another time doesn't mean he's taking "special care", maybe he just thought to mention it one time and not the other.

What is the scum agenda for me SRing you here? It'd be pretty easy to townread you here as scum, not a lot of other people are suspicious of uou. Again, I have more townreads than in DnC and ydrasse and I have both been pretty disengaged. You also have a higher scum % in this game due to the setup.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #111) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:37 pm

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In post 987, Sha 77 wrote:I do get if you felt something was off about my Andres push though. You have to understand; I had the feeling overnight right as the night started and it was very strong, I saw it really clearly at the time. Then, time passed, the day starts, and I've forgotten a lot of it and start to dread the fact I have to recall all that and post it. I got distracted by other stuff, mafia started to feel less appealing, so when I finally force myself to post right before being prodded probably, it's me literally spewing out my thoughts as best as I can remember from that time overnight. It's feels forced because it is.
Oh! Oh yeah this has happened to me before. Makes me feel a lot better about the push tbh
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I just have no idea who scum is tbh
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #113) » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:12 am

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Why
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Sometimes scum are just demotivated and don't want to play, I don't want to rule out scumteam possibilities based on someone not efforting
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #115) » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:21 am

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Can it please be like cakez/flea or smth
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PoE
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #117) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:51 pm

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Ydrasse who's scum I can't figure it out
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #118) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:24 pm

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In post 1093, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I just want to say a team with Pooky is 6 times better than a team with Infinity as I beat her many times in our duels at Strixhaven College :3
This is true, unlockable efreet flamepainter is a beating >.<

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Post Post #1120 (isolation #119) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:23 pm

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I still think andres was just biased by ali townreading him and the bias went away when e stopped TRing him
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Will get on the alisae meta, I think it's pooky? I think?
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Hectic some people TR people TRing them, it isn't even that rare, most people are biased towards doing that, I don't get this push at all
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #122) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:31 pm

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In post 1165, Sha 77 wrote:Well, unsure. Point is him reflecting reads probably isn't the best way to read him
It's not the best way to read anyone
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #123) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:40 pm

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In post 1167, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i really shouldve actually paid attention to this game instead of grinding masters in strixhaven :<
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #124) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:41 pm

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In post 1185, Sha 77 wrote:And reflecting reads is +scum on average ya know, it's just that town does it a lot of the time too

Can I hear your thoughts on the Sha/Flea/Cakez pool?
Don't agree but ok

I TRed cakez for something early on and forget what it was. Flea is probably scum. You idk but leaning town ig
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #125) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:01 pm

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Pooky feels town help
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Post Post #1202 (isolation #126) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:14 pm

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Andres is one of my strongest TRs though >.<
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #127) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:19 pm

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Nooo I refuse to believe it
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #128) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:24 pm

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In post 1206, tris wrote:you changed before my eyes!
:)
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Post Post #1275 (isolation #129) » Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:15 am

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I like how hectic started to TR andres after looking at his meta, I might've been biased against the andres push since I had already looking into his meta a bit
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Post Post #1276 (isolation #130) » Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:16 am

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I don't want tris to be scum, I feel like I'm weighting her early game too much though
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #131) » Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:24 am

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Does anyone have an example of scum!pooky doing a stream-of-consciousness-type thing like they're doing here? I know they're good at scum but I haven't seen them do this exactly
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #132) » Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:54 am

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Tris are you out of your scumrange
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Post Post #1284 (isolation #133) » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:00 am

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I'm interested to know why you don't like pooky pushing you here, but you can wait until you finish this engagement to answer
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #134) » Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:03 am

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In post 1263, tris wrote:i finally got a scumread though, so that's cool.
Oh I thought this meant you SR pooky
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #135) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:46 pm

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In post 786, Ydrasse wrote:i town lol
I think the evidence is clear
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Post Post #1314 (isolation #136) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:46 pm

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In post 1277, Infinity 324 wrote:Does anyone have an example of scum!pooky doing a stream-of-consciousness-type thing like they're doing here? I know they're good at scum but I haven't seen them do this exactly
Alisae do you have an answer to this?
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #137) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:02 pm

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Pre-flip associatives bad
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #138) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:34 am

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In post 1348, Sha 77 wrote:I've been pocketed by her before this is true, but I'm right far more often than I'm wrong.
This is part of what was affecting my read on you earlier, when I'm very wrong on a townread I don't want to ever TR that player again, but I believe that you see it differently (and you did in divide and conquer)
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #139) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:39 am

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For the andres meta, I felt like he wasn't as assertive or good at handling pressure as scum. I kinda forgot about it earlier tbh but it still had a big impact on my read. I forget how different reading people is when you don't know their meta
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #140) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:43 am

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In post 1366, Sha 77 wrote:
In post 1363, Infinity 324 wrote:For the andres meta, I felt like he wasn't as assertive or good at handling pressure as scum. I kinda forgot about it earlier tbh but it still had a big impact on my read. I forget how different reading people is when you don't know their meta
Any reason you didn't bring it up after you did the research?
I had done the research before this game started
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #141) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:44 am

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Yes
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #142) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:49 am

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Pooky feels like the way they played matrix decipher
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #143) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:05 am

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In post 1375, tris wrote:and what was his alignment there?
Town

Pooky stop making me doubt myself
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #144) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:06 am

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What's your read on me
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #145) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:07 am

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Isis I don't know where else to put this but kitchen finks is one of my favorite magic cards and it makes me happy that that's your sig

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Post Post #1387 (isolation #146) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:31 am

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In post 1384, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like who do you even want to kill ? I don't really understand what you're doing other than waving your arms in the air and going i dunno what to do lol
Pooky mafia is not all about killing people

But also yes I don't have stuff figured out and I need to meta and ISO people but I don't like that part

The thing is I don't get why you keep criticizing my read on you when you don't even really scumread me, I don't see the point
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #147) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:02 am

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:( I hope you feel better
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Post Post #1398 (isolation #148) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:09 pm

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In post 1394, SirCakez wrote:he definitely could
fae*
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #149) » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:26 am

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In post 1456, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 1454, Ydrasse wrote:in which case it’s just pooky i suppose

but i really don’t get of all the votes why you’re trying to get me; it doesn’t like, idk, you wrote a big wall towards me and you’re interacting at me but it doesn’t feel like as much you’re trying to convince others ...?
like you quoted me and explained your feelings about me (and cakez who i think you think is a partner if i’m scum) TO me and then you’re just like but i’m gonna fall on my sword

and i don’t get it, that feels like another weird thing to do instead of trying to push more about that sort of thing to others because what reply do you think me/cakez would give you?
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Post Post #1505 (isolation #150) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:00 pm

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VOTE: cakez

Ali is town I think
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #151) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:11 pm

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Theres nothing I particularly want more, cakez is one of my weakest TRs
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Post Post #1517 (isolation #152) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:28 pm

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Why?
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #153) » Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:39 pm

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I don't think ali needs to do everything e's doing right now if scum
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #154) » Sun May 02, 2021 7:40 am

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VOTE: pooky idk
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #155) » Sun May 02, 2021 8:17 am

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In post 1387, Infinity 324 wrote:The thing is I don't get why you keep criticizing my read on you when you don't even really scumread me, I don't see the point
Pooky did you have a response to this
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Post Post #1560 (isolation #156) » Sun May 02, 2021 8:37 am

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In post 1551, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1549, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1387, Infinity 324 wrote:The thing is I don't get why you keep criticizing my read on you when you don't even really scumread me, I don't see the point
Pooky did you have a response to this

like I'm naturally suspicious of people whose reads look covenient, weak or fake.

its either attempted pocketing or something that you can flip on spur of the moment to make a covenient vote.

if I don't understand the thought process behind the tr why would I trust the tr?
But you didn't SR me at the time and weren't really questioning me on it either
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Post Post #1566 (isolation #157) » Sun May 02, 2021 8:40 am

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In post 1559, Alisae wrote:Infinity how good is 1067?
It's not very convincing to me, it's something that I look at and go "ok this makes sense for now but is likely to be re-evaluated later as the gamestate changes"
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #158) » Sun May 02, 2021 8:41 am

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In post 1561, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if the reasoning is wrong i should inform you that its wrong no?

wouldnt it be scummy to take a townread based on false info?
Meanwhile I did and you didn't push me on it really
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Post Post #1570 (isolation #159) » Sun May 02, 2021 8:44 am

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In post 1568, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why would I push you for being mistaken?
Oh sorry you meant it would be scummy for you.

I still feel like there was more possible questioning to do on your end? You were starting to kinda get engaged at that time, and I didn't really articulate or attempt to articulate why I didn't care that much about you telling me the reasoning was wrong idk

It was mostly gut, I'm not sure you would've gotten too much out of that questioning but idk why you didn't even try?
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Post Post #1572 (isolation #160) » Sun May 02, 2021 8:50 am

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I haven't really thought that far ahead tbh. I'd probably have to look at the circumstances that led to you getting in the group

The reason why ali's line of reasoning is unconvincing to me is that if any of the associatives/townreads in it are wrong then the reasoning falls apart, even if a bunch of individuals are +town or -partner with you
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #161) » Sun May 02, 2021 8:51 am

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My question is: you think my reasoning to TR you is bad. You say so and I don't really respond. Why don't you push me on that? Aren't you suspicious?
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Post Post #1575 (isolation #162) » Sun May 02, 2021 8:59 am

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Ok but in matrix decipher I didn't know you and literally hadn't played mafia in over 3 years
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Post Post #1577 (isolation #163) » Sun May 02, 2021 9:03 am

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UNVOTE: sigh w/e
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Post Post #1635 (isolation #164) » Tue May 04, 2021 5:29 am

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Andres I read as questioning flea's progression the first time
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #165) » Tue May 04, 2021 5:37 am

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sigh

This is so transparently TvT
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #166) » Tue May 04, 2021 5:38 am

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Pooky/tris/flea or something
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Post Post #1654 (isolation #167) » Tue May 04, 2021 5:40 am

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In post 1652, Ydrasse wrote:opinions on flea?
I don't know how to read faer to begin with and this game fae is even weirder than normal
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Post Post #1728 (isolation #168) » Wed May 05, 2021 4:58 am

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VOTE: pooky

Maybe tris is pocketing me but ehhh it's hard to get TRed as scum by low efforting. I could see pooky's play being a scum strategy (though tbh, it's a stretch) but tris just feels like town trying to motivate herself
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Post Post #1731 (isolation #169) » Wed May 05, 2021 5:01 am

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I don't know
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #170) » Wed May 05, 2021 5:06 am

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I'm not going to try to look for pre-flip associatives, I think scum played weird this game no matter what and I think it's more important to look at who's most likely to be scum individually especially since I could be wrong on a TR
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Post Post #1796 (isolation #171) » Mon May 10, 2021 2:33 pm

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Yeah I'm not really sure why ydrasse is still alive, still feel like it's pooky

Flea explain your NKs?
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Post Post #1803 (isolation #172) » Tue May 11, 2021 9:48 am

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Yeah flea having a prepared explanation for why fae wouldn't have made that kill (yes I questioned faer on it, but fae brought it up in the first place) doesn't look good for faer
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Post Post #1805 (isolation #173) » Tue May 11, 2021 10:28 am

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I just don't get why immediately at daystart you're like "oh obviously I wouldn't have made that kill", it feels at least like you've been thinking about what to say
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Post Post #1807 (isolation #174) » Tue May 11, 2021 11:33 am

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Ok I can't read
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Post Post #1892 (isolation #175) » Thu May 13, 2021 3:46 am

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My gut is refusing to scumread pooky here and idgi. Logically they make way more sense
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #176) » Thu May 13, 2021 3:56 am

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When I type it out it makes zero sense, but:

AtE feels comfortable for pooky!scum
1v1ing people feels comfortable for pooky!scum

But together and the way they're approaching this now feels different from how I'd expect scum!pooky to approach it. Idk

Maybe it's that I'd expect pooky to go all out on 1v1ing ydrasse here if scum? Idk.
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Post Post #1901 (isolation #177) » Fri May 14, 2021 12:50 am

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In post 1899, Andresvmb wrote:But before I put a vote down, I want Infinity to vote.
Nooo I don't wanna >.<

I do think it's probably just pooky, but
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #178) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:09 am

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Yeah it's just I need to reread and I hate that part of the game. I need to figure out if there's any way ydrasse could've faked this as scum--if there was I'd just vote her but I kinda doubt it based on what I remember from her play. Idk
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #179) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:19 am

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Idk if you can actually answer this but like, how is ydrasse not out of her scumrange lol
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Post Post #1909 (isolation #180) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:20 am

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In post 1907, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:remember that time you figured out I was town in SS3?

im not like that obvious this time but if you read my iso i am still the same bear >.>
Aaaa but you're so different
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Post Post #1913 (isolation #181) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:23 am

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In post 1911, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:who is my partner if im scum !?!?!
I'm just assuming the other scum is flea at this point cause PoE
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #182) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:23 am

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In post 1912, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:where is ydra even trying. look @ her iso what solving has she done?
Look at, like, d1
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #183) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:24 am

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Idk I'm having a crisis right now that I can't talk about
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Post Post #1920 (isolation #184) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:28 am

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In post 196, Ydrasse wrote:i like cakez (i think that uhhh... cakez always looks scummy from my experience w him at least on a base level tone thing but i like how he's been, even if it is reactive i don't think scum cakez gets reactive/defensive that fast?) infinity (121 was good despite me going ? a bit at the start), sha (he's having some jokey fun, little towny for him)
In post 197, Ydrasse wrote:i don't like from andres, how he pointed out what alisae was doing and he was like oh... i'll still townread it... like he's trying to make himself look good etc etc
In post 198, Ydrasse wrote:i feel like i've played a game with tris before at some point, marathon weekend or something? where i thought she was very obvious scum and i turned out to be entirely wrong on that because i have no fucking clue how to read her and she sounds like scum to me by default

this game i feel like at surface level everything is fine but she's so self-confident about getting her heals in mentally i'm like, does scum just Go for it. do they just try to look cool and get votes? it makes me feel weird reading her posts but beyond that i don't have a good reason why
In post 203, Ydrasse wrote:HEAL: ydrasse

i debated whether or not i wanted to do this coming into this game bc implicitly this is gonna give some sort of power but uh, i'm feeling confident now so let's rumble
This stuff is towny...I guess...
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #185) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:29 am

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Idk I've been demotivated all game so has everyone
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Post Post #1924 (isolation #186) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:32 am

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aaaaa stop it
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Post Post #1926 (isolation #187) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:36 am

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If it wasn't clear, ongoing games are influencing my reads on ydrasse and pooky

PEdit: sigh

I wish I could scumread people

Andres you have to teach me your ways
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Post Post #1927 (isolation #188) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:37 am

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Ok I'm done with my ISO I wanna talk to ydrasse
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #189) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:38 am

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sigh
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #190) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:38 am

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Pooky you are not helping I feel like you're just manipulating me here
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #191) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:41 am

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Honestly ydrasse hasn't tried to look town this game
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #192) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:48 am

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In post 532, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 514, Sha 77 wrote:Yeah, I agree, Flea. If you're scum, you just haven't really bothered to do anything and this isn't a gambit where you're hoping people will somehow heal your uncaring attitude, that just seems so unlikely to actually happen.

Is being lazy really a towntell for you though? Every game I've seen of town!you you've done those KAMEHAMEHA walls pretty early
Means the game isn't moving fast when I'm not occasionally checking in. Like 1 page has passed...

HEAL: Sha 77
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #193) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:51 am

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In post 1212, Flea The Magician wrote:OK I've skimmed.

VOTE: Ydrasse is good for me rn.
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #194) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:52 am

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In post 1941, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea lazy scum cuz u have no worries about winning

how is town lazy the whole game seriously!?!?
Pooky honestly you're reminding me of divide and conquer when you pushed hectic but I was scummy by the same exact logic
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #195) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:54 am

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Wouldn't scum!pooky know when to shut up?
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In post 1951, Infinity 324 wrote:Wouldn't scum!pooky know when to shut up?
In post 1961, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:infy im going to stop talking to you in hopes of somehow like making you understand im not evil and manipulative or whatever


good luck with the decision i wont be upset even if you make a mistake

love you no matter what dear <3
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I'm still undecided, I feel like this game has been well within pooky and ydrasse's capabilities, but I feel like pooky is playing a bit more like scum than ydrasse?

Who do you think makes most sense as a flea partner? That's kinda what I'm trying to work out.
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #198) » Fri May 14, 2021 4:41 am

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I will think about it and talk to ydrasse. Fmpov flea basically has to be scum, I can't imagine a world where it's you.
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #199) » Fri May 14, 2021 4:47 am

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Interactions really help me sort people, I think I can get good info out of ydrasse based on how she talks to me
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