In post 32, Jingle wrote:
Watcher is disproportionately powerful for town on late days. Scum virtually has to pick those roles early and town never will, which I think is a flaw. Thus I think N4 and 5 watcher should be nixed.
Replaced with 1-shot Detective and 1-shot Psychologist for now.
In post 32, Jingle wrote:
Neighbor needs to be clarified as to whether it adds you to an established neighborhood and whether all of the neighborhoods are linked. It also needs to be clarified whether the people in said hood are noted at the beginning of the hood or not. Normally I think that's a QOL choice that should be a yes, but specifically for this setup there is a scum utility in secretly being part of the neighbor thread. I don't think 5 Neighbors is a particularly good use of slots either. I think 3 Neighbors who all are added to a Neighborhood that exists from the beginning of the game is fine.
Neighborhood is created on game start and players are added when it is chosen from a pack (that was the idea at least). I think there is no mod announcement when a player is added to the hood, they can post or not if they choose (seems more fun). Happy to drop the number down if there's good replacements, will come back to this.
In post 32, Jingle wrote:
IIRC, the original setup had the nightkill as multitasking by default, is that unchanged?
@Gypyx
can you confirm, after a brief look I couldn't find it. But yes, that is the case here, factional nightkill can be performed alongside pack actions.
In post 32, Jingle wrote:
N3/4/5 Cop is an odd choice thematically, but I assume it's to allow the Godfather time to be chosen. I think I would suggest making the 5 a novice instead (can't be used the night after it's chosen) because a N5 cop is probably going to be pretty easy to play around. Same with the N5 Gsmith, although I don't think I'd double up on what it's turned into. Amnesiac or Delayed seem like decent options.
Time for scum to play around it, also it forces trade offs in decision making. If there is N1 cop you always take it, but do you take N3 cop on N1? You make sure scum doesn't burn it but you also might die before you use it and maybe that N1 tracker has utility now? Agreed about N5 Cop and gsmith, changed to novice and delayed.
In post 32, Jingle wrote:
Doctor probably doesn't need to be gated so harshly, and it should be made explicit whether it turns you into a Gsmith godfather and how long that lasts. Also, if someone drafts vig and doctor and is checked by a Gsmith, does that return a guilty?
Oh good one. Docs are now even and odd night, plus I added a couple of 2-shot docs to replace 2 of the neighbors. I think doctor makes you a gsmith godfather, unless you are a vig as that seems like the most fun. But if that's awful we could not do that.
In post 32, Jingle wrote:
MD/FV/Checker/RC/RB all have potential to mix in alternative gates. Odd night FV or Complex Checker or Announcing MD.
Yeah, I have added in random gates that I think are interesting or funny, including Self Checker, which I think is
really
funny.
I put both in /shrug
In post 32, Jingle wrote:
Framer can probably be buffed to affect all investigations. (An investigative targeting your target receives the most damning result: I.E. can kill for gunsmiths or visited scumkill for trackers.)
Is there a name for this? Gunna call it universal framer if not.
In post 32, Jingle wrote:
I would like to see detective and psychiatrist added in some form, possibly as simply as 1 shot versions.
Used to replace the watchers.
In post 32, Jingle wrote:
Neighborizer could replace neighbor or vanilla slots as it's a 0 utility role that is net fun for a lot of people and will naturally gravitate to those people who enjoy hoods.
I was thinking that, but wondered if it was better in a booster. But now that 2 of the neighbors have been removed, I will add it in. I'm guessing you are imagining this creating a different hood from the other one?
