In post 728, Guillotina wrote: In post 122, VFP wrote:I believe Korina.
Scum going to try and discredit here.
I don't want to go into detail but I chose a really powerful role that is confirmable to the entire town by tomorrow at the latest.
Why does he believe Korina?
Notice how VFP is predisposing the thread in a way that if anyone disagrees with them on their "read" on Korina, they'll be considered scum. So any attempt at casing Korina will be taken as anti-town and of course any voice against Korina's case would be pushed as such, regardless of intent or alignment.
This feels like VFP could possibly be scum with TMI on Korina.
In post 143, VFP wrote:If I had to guess right now.
mahimahi+ - WW
Flea - town
Raya36 - scum
TemporalLich - town
Guillotina - cultist
Korina - town
Almost50 - town
KidAmn - town
Nono - SK
samantha97 - town
CaptainS - scum
Vaxkiller - scum
How does he come up with a read on me as a Cultist if there is no guarantee or signs that there is such a role?
How possible is it that there is a cult leader role in a 13 players set up? Why would town worried about a slim chance that there is a cult leader when there is scum to catch?
VFP is also yet to explore all of those town reads. There is no way an uninformed town has so many town reads so early in the game.
In post 145, VFP wrote:
I'm not sure what would prompt Flea to lie there. But I think it was a
good town response
so far.
Possible TMI on Flea. Does he know Flea is town?
In post 148, VFP wrote:You sound more worried to if Korina is telling the truth there.
What Vaxkiller would be worried about exactly?
What? Locktown, just like that. Why? Why do you believe CaptainS? Someone whose first game here in THIS ONE!
Why?
In post 263, VFP wrote:Tracker / watcher, those kind of investigations.
Make your picks purely around me.
Even if we have 5 doctors, all on me.
I offered this to town as well. Temporal sus me for it, yet you were not.
In post 311, VFP wrote: In post 297, Guillotina wrote:Fuck cultists, I hate playing as converter and much more being converted. If you plan to convert me, don't, I will out you with extremely bad cultist play.
This just scream cultis to me.
Why? At this point is when i noticed a prejudice attitude towards me. He had decided I was cultist on a read list before and here is how he starts pushing that narrative.
In post 316, VFP wrote:Guillotina actually roled anti town.
I'm impressed.
You shouldn't feel impressed about yourself because you are wrong.
In post 343, VFP wrote:Yeah, I'm basically confirmed tonight or I'm gone tomorrow.
Are you trying to bait visits upon you?
In post 454, VFP wrote:
Yes, and so should you.
In Korina we believe! My vote sticks with Korina, not against.
In post 451, Vaxkiller wrote:Nice manipulation of my point
. And yes,
generally speaking
if you think someone is scum you try to elim them.
Thank you!
So we are agreed that there is
much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim you
.
That makes you look suspicious even more so.
If there is much of a reason to lim Korina as there is to lim Vaxkiller, why is Vaxkiller suspicious but Korina is not under that logic?
Because VFP is pocketing Korina!
In post 462, VFP wrote: In post 460, Guillotina wrote:Stop white knighting her and stop misrepresenting my reasons to scum read people, that's svummy. I scum read Korina because she is playing the exact same way i watched her play in our last game where she was scum.
So with meta only.
Your argument here is meta only.
Why are you voting who pushed the scum narrative anyway?
Did you forget who you were voting?
Unless i misunderstood, here he implies that we are not entitled to scum read a player who scum reads another player that we also scum read. As if wolves don't distance or buss others.
In post 470, VFP wrote: In post 464, Vaxkiller wrote:VFP, are you for real right now or just trolling me. Like im not sure if I should even respond to you, because it looks like you just fuckin with me trying to rile me up.
I'm 100% serious.
In post 465, Guillotina wrote:Your scum equity is going up with every post.
Are you telling me that scum would not push each other to distance themselves on Day 1?
Are you telling me that you didnt consider that Mahi and Korina could be scum read for independent reasons?
Ate you not aware thst there may or may not be different types of scum in this game?
Mahi is town and not scum.
I think you actually forgot who you were voting for though as you're scum.
You are dead set on Korina as scum and its suggested highly likely as cult leader if they are.
Why would you not be voting here if you didn't believe it?
Your push is fake. Your reasons are bad.
YOU ARE DEAD SET ON KORINA THAT SHE IS TOWN. HOW?!
I explained my reasons of why I think Korina could be wolf but you town read her and never gave any solid reasons. Also a reply to the sized up comment in VFP's quote:
I only have one vote and I scum read more than one person.
In post 476, VFP wrote: In post 472, Guillotina wrote:Oh look upon removing your wool i have discovered you bot pelt underneath.
How do you know Mahi is town?
How can you prove that i forgot i was voting for Mahi? If you cant prove it, it's a shade.
You accuse me of wolf reading Korina on just based meta, yet again you are town reading him based on meta, if my read on korina is invalid because of meta, how is yours not equally invalid then?
I dont know if my reasons are bad, im uninformed, but i do believe in them so dont dare to say that they are fake.
Because Mahi isn't in the Mafia team.
There's no other role they could have taken other than town.
I cant meta read Korina because I have never played with them.
My reason is for scum pushing for an easy lim using Meta
. I don't need to explain the difference, because you don't believe the scum push anyway.
But your argument here is if it can't be proven that you're lying even though it's obvious, it's not true?
Well my counter to that is I proved that you forgot who you were voting for, prove that I didn't or you claim scum.
Your reasons are uniformed that meta beats game? Well I'm telling you now, it's fake. And I'll uniform that all game.
In post 487, VFP wrote: In post 480, Guillotina wrote:1) How do you know Mahi isn't in a mafia team?
2) If you don't have meta on Korina, why do you assume he is an easy lim?
3) My argument is that you can't possibly know that i forgot unless you are a GODDAMN psychic!
1) How do you know Mahi isn't in a mafia team?
Not in the PT with me
2) If you don't have meta on Korina, why do you assume he is an easy lim?
Because the reasons giving is an easy lim with no throw back? Are you trying to say I have meta on Korina?
3) My argument is that you can't possibly know that i forgot unless you are a GODDAMN psychic!
Prove that I can't possible know that.
In post 480, Guillotina wrote:This guy is obvious scum, i actually feel bad for your team because you surely cannot blend in. Honestly all i have to do know is how people interact with you to find the other scum. I think Korina might not be scum for the way you white knighted her.
Why did upsized the sentences of the quote. I will tell you now.
I'm so glad that my team are killing you tonight, because you will know in
143 I mark out who is on my team pretty well.
Also, I believe that post as much as you believe your fake push on Mahi, Korina, and me today.
You saying you scum read Raya, CaptainS and Vaxkiller? is this what you meant?
If so, then what's the angle? That they plus Me, Flea and Samantha are scum to? For a total of 6 scum players in a 13 player set up?
How is this possible?
In post 530, VFP wrote:
I guess you got the 20% then?
Side note, Captain is probably town, just wrong town.
In post 541, VFP wrote:
This is actually one of the first posts I like from you.
But no,
we need a lim
here.
We need a lim? No, we need to lim scum, the way you are saying it here is that any lim is good and that mentality comes from anti-town parties.