Newbie 2061 | Views of Tallinn | Town wins

[iN3krO]

If scum he's just 100% bad tho, and hard to wagon cus people just say he always plays like a completely anti-town goober. and therefore rather suspect the town pushing for his lim.

That does sound like a perfectly good first day lynch so we don't depend on him being good later in the game

[iN3krO]

I'm liking Norwee.

For now I think CatBoi could have had said some more other than directly adresing a player based on a previous game.

As for Marci and Meow for now I don't see anything wrong with either but I think we should all be careful with you being aquaintances as it could make you more prone to believe each other townie.

With days so long how do you usually manage timing?

[iN3krO]

VOTE: Vote: Catboi

So Catboi, what do you think about Toriii's train of thought?

[iN3krO]

Hehehe

Seems like that's not how you vote

VOTE: Catboi

There you go pussycat.

[iN3krO]

I wanted to ask in3kro, out of everyone why did you vote catboi in 97?? Is it your reasonings in 83?
(if it is) I feel like those reasonings wouldn't be enough to make him standout as opposed to other people in this game so far, catboi could easily just be busy.

My reason was that I wanted to read more of him. I think that saying what we think about what's being said is better than fluffing.

I'm now reading the other posts.

[iN3krO]

Well, N_M is very townie for me atm, i liked his thoughts, he didnt post too much though

Could you please point out what did you like about NM?

[iN3krO]

@catboi If you answer me with another question I don't really feel like answering ya. I don't think it's a coincidence that you and NM are voting me, though I think it's quite reactive and doesn't indicate aligment of either of you.

[iN3krO]

Wait, NM ain't voting me, just scumreading me, but doing nothing useful with his vote.....

TR Norwee, Pear, , Null Not_mafia, sama SR Meuh, Catboi, marci

Could you please care to explain why do you explicitly have NM and Sama as Null but you have omitted me? What does that mean?

[iN3krO]

I'm waiting to hammer you

What will you do when I flip townie?

[iN3krO]

In3kor why do you scumread Catboi?

Right now I don't, I just wanted to read more from him (and i said it 2 times before voting him). Problem is I'm not scumreading anyone T-T

I'm townreading Pear though

[iN3krO]

Do you actually care about the question you asked me?

I did, but it's so meaningless after all this time.

I thought Torii was all over the place with the 3 names he gave and indeed he just picked 3 players with very distinct playstyles, wanted to see what others thought of it but Tori already explained himself, and more importantly I wanted to read you because you had only 1 post until then. (I think I also had 1 or 2 posts by then too).

I think you have spoken enough now to see your position in the game.

[iN3krO]

Fair enough, there's more meaningful ways to contribute, but like I've said before I was trying to paint a wider picture of the game. With the way this is going, I'm starting to feel like the partners are likely quiet and not interacting much, so forcing potential partners out of their comfort zone would be nice.

I feel like scum are fine with this gamestate, so I don't wanna be on either of these big wagons. VOTE:

Tori

Why do you think Torii is a better lynch than catboi or me?

Is pear your only read?

Yes, he is by far the easiest player to read.

[iN3krO]

So after a "quick" review of everyones isolated posts I like Marcistar and Pearofclubs.

I kinda liked Meow too but it caught to my attention how both her and Norweee came out defending Catboi when nobody else did (we could arguee Meow also defended me).

I'm more inclined to believe Meow there since she gave a reasonable explanation for it. However, Norweee was way more shitpostey, and while he reasoned some of her readings, all he said about catboi was the he was "towntelling".

As for Catboi himself... way too absent and repeatedly answer to multiple people's questions (and I'm also guily of both of this). He said 2 or 3 times that he doesn't care about appearences and even used the "if i were scum" which I don't really like (as it make it seems like he's actively trying not to look scum). Not even to mention that in 225 and 226 he said he would get a full readlist today and still didn't say anything about it....

As for NM, Sama and Torii they are all null for me atm.

Therefor, for my POE I would probably go Catboi > Meow > NM (NM for his playstyle)

If Catboi or Meow flip Town, then I would try to pressure NM Sama and Toriii.

[iN3krO]

Sorry, I got my POE wrong, I meant Norwee instead of Meow. (same for last line with catboi and meow, it would be catboi or norweee)

[iN3krO]

iN3krO, quick question: you mentioned something about the phases being long, I assume you have experience playing elsewhere?

Yes, I've been playing for the past year. But we usually have 48 hours days.

1. I like the way Catboi's been playing lately
2. I don't trust myself to make decisions rn, my thoughts are all over the place
3. I'd rather play without N_M over anyone else

VOTE:

Not_Mafia

Also purely off activity, Ink and Catboi gone, at this game pace and at their activity would just not be great.
Tori was kinda just my natural conclusion of where to vote at first, not very active + I don't feel too strongly on them + there's already a vote there so forming a counter-wagon from Catboi and Ink sounds best on them

You are townreading all my options, I'm not seeing how could we follow-up on day 2 or what would NM's flip tell us (thought that's what he wants with his gameplan, I think).

[iN3krO]

All right, was trying to get a sense for your familiarity with the game. Do you normally find it difficult to form reads on day 1?

I'm quite hit or miss in D1, but mostly I find it quite difficult.

Also, I've read everything and I like Norwee lynch waaaaaay better than NM

Unvote

VOTE: NorwegianBoy

[iN3krO]

Also yeah Ink some more insight on your vote would be nice.

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I think that's enough to see my train of thought as to why I prefer norwee lynch over NM lynch.

[iN3krO]

Well, I don't know how to reference posts, I wanted to reference #236

viewtopic.php?p=12706998#p12706998

[iN3krO]

I’m interested to hear why you think i wouldn’t just keep voting you or switch to N_M if i’m scum here In3kro.

I think you are scum with catboi. You both want to stop the n3kro or catboi lynch gamestate because then you'll have a 50% chance of having 1 scum killed in D1, catboi went ahead and voted NM in 240 and you vote the guy you have been pushing all day long trying to start a NM vs Meuh lynch which is a 100% chance of killing a townie.

Only you have pushed meow and said he looked scum, trying to repeat that over and over so it would sink within the other players...

[iN3krO]

I think it's catboi and Meuh

Do you think we could get catboi hammered?

[iN3krO]

I think it's catboi and Meuh

Do you think we could get catboi hammered?

in3 is scum for a few rreasons.
1. Willingness to hammer catboi. NM suggests catboi is scum for no reason. Then in3 immediately wants to hammer.
2. Willingness to vote anyone after someone else votes. This is very newbscum indicative.

I made a beautiful PoE and i'm following it. And here you are acussing me of hoping into other wagons for no reason at all.

[iN3krO]

I think warrants looking into Marci, Sama and N_M.

I would add Catboi to that list

[iN3krO]

I'm no jailkeeper so I didn't jail a scumread.

Let's update my PoE

VOTE: SamaWoodo

[iN3krO]

I'm no jailkeeper so I didn't jail a scumread.

Let's update my PoE

VOTE: SamaWoodo

Why samawoodo?

He was neutral for me in D1 and clearly my reads were off so I think it's better to start there (since T3 picked up the pace compared to Tori)

[iN3krO]

I don't understand why you played the way you did near the end of the day.

He's scum

Do you have any townread?

[iN3krO]

That's none of your business

How is that none of our bussiness? What is this game about then?

@T3 come on, vote me and stop repeating yourself. As much as you repeat that, it ain't true. You can see in D1 I followed my PoE ever since I wrote it (and you attacked me for voting randomly) and now I changed it because one of my targets were townie and only voted once and you are already attacking me for voting randomly again.

I don't like when people make up excuses to attack me, so please, just vote me because you want to, but stop lying about what I'm doing because everyone else can see that's just not true.

[iN3krO]

@marcistar (and everyone else tbh), when do you think it's beneficial for the town for a jailkeeper to claim? We don't usually play with jailkeeper in my? our? community...

[iN3krO]

I'll try to read marcistar and pears isos by tonight so I can try and understand the push on them.

It kinda surprises me that VFP has T3 as a strong town read, I'm mostly aprehensive by T3 playstyle. The way he hastly wrote VFP off as an unreadable player rubbed me the wrong way.