The Name of the Game - Episode 2: Soixante-Trois

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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:17 pm

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Will you tell me the name of the game via PM within five minutes of answering this question if you answer "Yes" to this question, and will you not tell me the name of the game via PM within six to ten minutes after answering this question if you answer "No" to this question?
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:18 pm

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(clarification: the entire sentence is one question)
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:43 pm

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Let p be the statement that Lady Lambdadelta responds yes.
Let q be the statement that NotAJumbleOfNumbers will be told the name of the game by PM within five minutes of Lady Lambdadelta answering.
Let r be the statement that NotAJumbleOfNumbers will not be told the name of the game by PM within six to ten minutes of Lady Lambdadelta answering.

We can then represent NotAJumbleOfNumbers statement more formally as:

(p implies q) and ((not p) implies r)

p implies q is equivalent to not p or q so we can then translate this to

((not p) or q) and (p or r)

From this, we could create a truth table to determine all of the possible solutions based on how Lady Lambdadelta responds if we assume that Lady Lambdadelta responds truthfully:

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p	q	r	((¬p ∨ q) ∧ (p ∨ r))
F	F	F	F
F	F	T	T
F	T	F	F
F	T	T	T
T	F	F	F
T	F	T	F
T	T	F	T
T	T	T	T

So if Lady Lambdadelta responds yes, then p is true. Therefore, q is true and either r is true or r is false.
If Lady Lambdadelta responds no, then p is false. Therefore, r is true and either q is true or q is false.

What this means is that if Lady Lambdadelta answers affirmative, then NotAJumbleOfNumbers will learn the naem of the game by PM within 5 minutes of Lady Lambdadelta answering. We don't know whether Lady Lambdadelta will not tell NotAJumbleOfNumbers the name of the game within six or ten minutes of Lady Lambdadelta answering. However, it is implicit that if NotAJumbleOfNumber learns the answer within five minutes, then they will also learn it within six to ten minutes of Lady Lambdadelta answering, so actually, both statements would be true in this case.

If Lady Lambdadelta does not answer affirmatively, then NotAJumbleOfNUmber will not learn the name of the game by PM within six to ten minutes of Lady Lambdadelta answering. We don't know whether Lady Lambdadelta will tell NotAJumbleOfNumbers the name of the game by PM within five minutes.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:46 pm

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In post 50, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:
Will you tell me the name of the game via PM within five minutes of answering this question if you answer "Yes" to this question, and will you not tell me the name of the game via PM within six to ten minutes after answering this question if you answer "No" to this question?
This question is illegal, as there will only be one question remaining once I answer the two questions from the previous page, and answering this would therefor break a rule.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:49 pm

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In post 48, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:Is this question's answer "No"?
This is a paradoxical question that provides an infinite recursion loop. The result of this loop is that I cannot answer Yes OR No, breaking one of the rules. I accept this as one of the 20 questions, and give you no answer. Further paradoxical questions that can provide no logical answer will be answered similarly and also take up a question of space.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:12 pm

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I will give Sirius 24 hours before I ping them, and another 24 hours after I ping before I replace.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm

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If you open an incognito browser in Chrome and search the item's name on Google, does the top result start with any letter in: a,e,i,o,u and y?
余命数か月ばかりの恋に点滴で扶養する患者達
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:01 pm

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nvm i didn't read the rules thoroughly nvm
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:11 pm

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In post 56, Sirius9121 wrote:If you open an incognito browser in Chrome and search the item's name on Google, does the top result start with any letter in: a,e,i,o,u and y?
Yes.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:13 pm

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The Answer to the first cycle of 20 questions was: (a) Knight.

The second cycle has now begun. All players are reset. No one has left the game via naming the hidden rule yet.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:19 pm

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Is it alive?
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:22 pm

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In post 60, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Is it alive?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:44 pm

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Do you believe anyone will guess the name of the game before the fourth cycle begins?
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm

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If you put the name of the item in a Base 64 encoder, is the fifth character a capitalized letter?
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:39 pm

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is it real?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:45 am

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Will you tell me the name of the game via PM within five minutes of answering this question if you answer "Yes" to this question, and will you not tell me the name of the game via PM within six to ten minutes after answering this question if you answer "No" to this question?
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:33 am

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If you put the name of the item in a Base 64 encoder, is the 7th character a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m or =?
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被害者の甘い期待を弔い悔悟の機会を躊躇うドクター
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:56 am

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is it bigger than a 10in x 10in x 10in box?
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:12 am

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In post 62, Farren wrote:Do you believe anyone will guess the name of the game before the fourth cycle begins?
Yes.
In post 63, Sirius9121 wrote:If you put the name of the item in a Base 64 encoder, is the fifth character a capitalized letter?
No.
In post 64, Gypyx wrote:is it real?
Yes.
In post 66, Sirius9121 wrote:If you put the name of the item in a Base 64 encoder, is the 7th character a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m or =?
No.
In post 67, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:is it bigger than a 10in x 10in x 10in box?
Yes.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:15 am

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I think you missed NotAJumbleOfNumbers's question.

Is it related to writing?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:32 am

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In post 65, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:
Will you tell me the name of the game via PM within five minutes of answering this question if you answer "Yes" to this question
, and will you not tell me the name of the game via PM within six to ten minutes after answering this question if you answer "No" to this question?
The bolded above is one question, the second part is a second question. As the rules state you cannot ask 2 questions in a row, I've chosen to answer the first question. No.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:33 am

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In post 69, Ircher wrote:I think you missed NotAJumbleOfNumbers's question.

Is it related to writing?
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:39 am

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In post 70, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 65, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:
Will you tell me the name of the game via PM within five minutes of answering this question if you answer "Yes" to this question
, and will you not tell me the name of the game via PM within six to ten minutes after answering this question if you answer "No" to this question?
The bolded above is one question, the second part is a second question. As the rules state you cannot ask 2 questions in a row, I've chosen to answer the first question. No.
Also, look, I'm going to be straight up with you because I respect the hustle and the ability to try and bend the game, but the fact is this:
Any questions that end up creating a feedback loop where you try to coerce me into doing something will result in no coercion being done. You cannot force me by question to tell you the name of the game via PM. If you can find a way to force me to reveal the information behind it by question and deductive reasoning, by my guest, but the only way I'll be confirming the name of the game as correct in a direct manner is if you say it first, essentially.

I'm just gonna save you some time and also let you know all of these two part questions will be treated the same way as the above. You have a lot of interesting moves that can be made even without this.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:03 am

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Can you buy the item on Amazon
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:06 am

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In post 73, Nexus wrote:Can you buy the item on Amazon
No
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