MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[samantha97]

I'm not gonna speculate on what mahimahi is before they actually claim, which everyone should do

massclaim pls

[TemporalLich]

Yeah we have a scum prince, the roleblocker is blocking the town win con

did you check how my role works before saying that

No but I can confirm you are indeed blocking the town win con and therefore need to be elimed today

No massclaim yet.

[Ircher]

Day 4 VC #2

samantha97 (1) - TemporalLich (1521)
CaptainS (0) - Guillotina (1518)
Not Voting (7) - Almost50, samantha97, Raya36, Flea The Magician, CaptainS, mahimahi, KidAmn

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to execute a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Friday, April 23, 2021 8:30:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-23 20:30:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Saturday, April 17, 2021 7:30:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-17 19:30:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: As a reminder, please try to avoid multiposting in a row as that can clutter the thread and make it harder for people who are behind to catch up. Try to combine smaller posts into one larger post.
3: Please try to avoid using the L-word. Alternatives like eliminate, fade, launch, etc. are highly encouraged.
4: Guillotina's vote will still be tracked, but it doesn't officially count during this day phase due to the activity rules. This does not lower the execution threshold.
5: CaptainS is V/LA until the start of Monday, April 19, 2021.

Pronoun Key

1. mahimahi : They/Them
2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
4. TemporalLich : He/Him
5. Guillotina : He/Him
6. Korina : They/Them (Preferred) or He/Him
7. Almost50 : He/Him
9. KidAmn : They/Them
11. samantha97 : Any/Any
12. CaptainS : Any/Any

[samantha97]

No but I can confirm you are indeed blocking the town win con and therefore need to be elimed today

No massclaim yet.

you don't know my role
mahis' role

or half the game's role yet

and you're confirmed town pointlessly voting for another confirmed town

cool your jets

[Raya36]

So does anyone know if Vax ever outed his N2 target or result?

yes it was temporal as an airplane something

Right, thanks!
Wonder why scum killed Vax then. He was vanilla then

[samantha97]

Right, thanks!
Wonder why scum killed Vax then. He was vanilla then

can you roleclaim pls

this is the only safe day to do it cause I'm gonna eat the nk

[Raya36]

also anyway lets massclaim I guess since our pool is good

I've been roleblocking you guillotina sry, I'm a town naturalist (which I thought was obvious and I expected to eat the nk), aka an omniroleblocking omnidoctor lol

my role was altered like I said, so I'm the only one who knows exactly how it works, but you'll see tomorrow anyway

Why would you roleblock Guillo who was going to kill the unelimable scum?

VOTE: Samantha

[Raya36]

Right, thanks!
Wonder why scum killed Vax then. He was vanilla then

can you roleclaim pls

this is the only safe day to do it cause I'm gonna eat the nk

How would you know that

[samantha97]

Why would you roleblock Guillo who was going to kill the unelimable scum?

VOTE: Samantha

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&p=12667963&hi ... #p12667963

look before you leap people

[TemporalLich]

I am assuming you are true claiming and mahi is scum (not a benign third party)

Pedit: yeah idk

Ppedit: if we are 200% sure who to elim today we don't need a massclaim

[Raya36]

UNVOTE:
Why would you choose that role?

[samantha97]

UNVOTE:
Why would you choose that role?

more like why did I make it

I made it cause I h8 how there are like 3 kills per night in grand idea

I wanted there to be room to breathe

also yes I'm guaranteed the nk because I have been passively blocking factional nightkills and I don't even have to be correct and target someone to do it

[samantha97]

claim pls raya

[Raya36]

That makes sense then. Seems the role only exists in town too.

I'll hold off my claim until everyone else checks in and says what they think of mass claiming. I'm still against it but if the majority want it I'll accept I'm wrong and claim

[TemporalLich]

I'm against massclaim because samantha claimed town naturalist (the blolerocker we are looking to elim regardless of alignment) and the claim is credible

said role is most likely the reason guillotina is getting returned grenades, and this inadvertently makes guillo's claim credible (confirmed if samantha flips)

The only thing that seeds doubt into this is the fact that mahi could be a benevolent third party (still not technically town though)

[TemporalLich]

all will be explained but it’ll have to wait until tomorrow

- mahimahi

btw, this is the post that got mahi hammered

I saw it as an intentional refusal to claim

[samantha97]

the blolerocker we are looking to elim regardless of alignment

royal 'we'

you're ignoring the incentive for mafia to kill me & also somehow ignoring guillotina's role while talking about it; it's a good thing vaxkiller died and 100% cleared you cause I'd be all over you calling you mafia right now lol

[Raya36]

So I'm considering lich, sam, and guillo all conftown and mahi confscum

[Raya36]

That leaves A50, captain, flea, and kid. That's pretty good pool for the last of the scum

[TemporalLich]

you can't say that I'm ignoring guillotina's role when I literally mentioned "said role is most likely the reason guillotina is getting returned grenades"

That's why your claim and guillotina's claim (irresponsible army surplus) are both credible

pedit: if that's true then the correct elim is sam

scum will know not to NK sam as that's stopping the Town from winning, cross-aligned scum will likely do the NK

ppedit: I will do a lead rist because it will be important if we are forced to massclaim

[samantha97]

you can't say that I'm ignoring guillotina's role when I literally mentioned "said role is most likely the reason guillotina is getting returned grenades"

scum will know not to NK sam as that's stopping the Town from winning, cross-aligned scum will likely do the NK

even if mahimahi was mafia our win condition is not solely to kill them

and by ignoring his role I meant ignoring its full breadth

[Raya36]

Sam isn't stopping our elimination are they?

[samantha97]

no for some reason he is saying the only way for town to get rid of mahimahi is if guillotina is allowed to grenade them, and that mahimahi dying is definitely part of our win condition

[Raya36]

Ok, so we keep you. Town killing roles target who we think is scum (mahi or whoever else later on). Hopefully we actually prevent the next nk and get our kill instead

[TemporalLich]

even if mahimahi was mafia our win condition is not solely to kill them

and by ignoring his role I meant ignoring its full breadth

there is one action in the army surplus that isn't a kill - but that won't help us as that will just give mahimahi fruit vendor powers (it will just make the game even more trolly)

Sam isn't stopping our elimination are they?

no, sam is not stopping elims. Mahi is most likely a scum prince.

no for some reason he is saying the only way for town to get rid of mahimahi is if guillotina is allowed to grenade them, and that mahimahi dying is definitely part of our win condition

your claimed role stops all non-factional killing actions

We'd have to bet on cross-aligned scum shooting mahi - that's literally a Kingmaker scenario

Or we'd have to bet on mahimahi being a benign 3P like a survivor or unjester

pedit: it won't work according to sam's claimed role