MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[Raya36]

We still have our elimination. And honestly with our kill power we probably would have killed at least a towny by now too.

Yah and we’ve gotten info too out that too.

Whom of my claim targets do you think is town? Why?

Im talking about CaptainS and KidAmn specifically

I'm honestly not sure. I'll need some time to go back through their isos to get a good read on them. I wasn't only referring to you when I said that for the record. We could have other vig type roles too

[Flea The Magician]

I have reasons for keeping Sam alive, as pissy as I am for the wasted night action...

But ya'll make some damn good arguments. Lemme see where the votes are at, I don't wanna pull a TL

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Sam [Yeet-1]

[Raya36]

A50's argument is so far the closest to making me want to go back to eliming sam. We do really need mahi gone for that reason among others

[Ircher]

Day 4 VC #8

Guillotina (0) -
Almost50 (1) - samantha97 (1559)

samantha97 (3) (E-2) - Almost50 (1563), TemporalLich (1672), Guillotina (1695), Flea The Magician (1727)

CaptainS (0) -
Not Voting (4) - CaptainS, mahimahi, KidAmn, Raya36 (1658)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to execute a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Friday, April 23, 2021 8:30:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-23 20:30:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Saturday, April 17, 2021 7:30:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-17 19:30:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: As a reminder, please try to avoid multiposting in a row as that can clutter the thread and make it harder for people who are behind to catch up. Try to combine smaller posts into one larger post.
3: Please try to avoid using the L-word. Alternatives like eliminate, fade, launch, etc. are highly encouraged.
4: Guillotina's vote will still be tracked, but it doesn't officially count during this day phase due to the activity rules. This does not lower the execution threshold.
5: CaptainS is V/LA until the start of Monday, April 19, 2021.

Pronoun Key

1. mahimahi : They/Them
2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
4. TemporalLich : He/Him
5. Guillotina : He/Him
7. Almost50 : He/Him
9. KidAmn : They/Them
11. samantha97 : Any/Any
12. CaptainS : Any/Any

[Flea The Magician]

Oh yeah, guills vote doesnt count...

[Guillotina]

Oh yeah, guills vote doesnt count...

Yah just yeet me.

It’s my fault that i didnt read the rules but between this scum sided posting rules and Samantha’s role, i lost WIM.

I will holster tonight. Good luck.

[samantha97]

y'know we could actually vote out mafia today that'd be super neat

[TemporalLich]

Do not vote guillo

Seriously, guillo is both mechtown and actually acts town unlike TL or Sam

[TemporalLich]

Also I highly suspect we have lost majority due to guillo being silenced

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah I got no intention to vote guillo, but guillo holstering means UNVOTE: Sam for me until we gain a better plan.

[KidAmn]

VOTE: Sam [Yeet-1]

Yeah I got no intention to vote guillo, but guillo holstering means UNVOTE: Sam for me until we gain a better plan.

Why the turnaround? Given Guillo's hyper-emotional play, I expect they'll be unholstered in a few more pages. They've bounced around on so many issues so much; they've even gone through 3 (that I recall) different plans of action in the last few pages. But then, so have you:

Trust me I'm thinking on the Sam yeet.

Mechconf yet incredibly anti-town, which is the better to have, a filtered kill turning this into a weirdly standard kill setup, or ust letting loose and probably making tomorrow YOLO.

You need to target Mahi if we yeet sam.

I am getting people pleaser vibes guill, you know that aint a good vibe :/ Like its you, this is fully you, but I dunno if its AI or not.

Honestly I'm torn on it, Sams thing actually empowers me...

I have reasons for keeping Sam alive, as pissy as I am for the wasted night action...

But ya'll make some damn good arguments. Lemme see where the votes are at, I don't wanna pull a TL

VOTE: Sam [Yeet-1]

From "thinking on it" and "you need to target mahi" to "getting people pleaser vibes guill, you know that aint a good vibe" when he acquiesces; then suggesting Sam's power empowers you somehow and having reasons to keep them alive, but then you jump on to put them at E-1 until you realise Guillo's vote didn't count to put them on the edge...

Also I highly suspect we have lost majority due to guillo being silenced

Why does Guillo losing their vote to the posting rule make you think we've lost majority?

[Flea The Magician]

Sam definitely powers my role up, there's no doubt. But needs to be yote so Guill can hit Mahi who also needs to be yote.
Guillo is a wildcard - and an emotional one. I'm just freaking weird when I get going. I also made 1 pun that's made Korina hate me but they fully expected it sooooo
Anyway, yeah I poked guill, they're town and not being touched until tomorrow at the earliest based on night actions. I know I'm targeting there and if I'm dead, well bad times because like I said, Sam is powering me up a touch.

The trade off for me comes down to, do I keep sam alive and be unable to solve my role fully but be fully empowered and hope scums take out the alien, or yeet sam and get rid of the freaking alien tonight and become a lot less broken.

Yeet Sam:
- Yeet mechtown
- Gain conftown
- Independence Day.
- I - an unclearable - lose a chunk of power.

Don't yeet Sam:
- Keep mechtown
- Keep Alien and hope scumz shoot there.
- Don't gain a conftown
- I stay powered up. As an unclearable.

My plan has always been to think this through. I don't mind losing the power up as I can probably solve my role then and once I know, I can share with the class. We need Guillo to be leashed for tonight to take out the alien, honestly. After that he shoots where he shoots, and we address that as it happens.

[Ircher]

Prodding mahimahi (1d 14h). They have (expired on 2021-04-19 20:00:00) to respond before I seek a replacement.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Sam [Yeet-1]

Yeah I got no intention to vote guillo, but guillo holstering means UNVOTE: Sam for me until we gain a better plan.

Why the turnaround? Given Guillo's hyper-emotional play, I expect they'll be unholstered in a few more pages. They've bounced around on so many issues so much; they've even gone through 3 (that I recall) different plans of action in the last few pages. But then, so have you:

Trust me I'm thinking on the Sam yeet.

Mechconf yet incredibly anti-town, which is the better to have, a filtered kill turning this into a weirdly standard kill setup, or ust letting loose and probably making tomorrow YOLO.

You need to target Mahi if we yeet sam.

I am getting people pleaser vibes guill, you know that aint a good vibe :/ Like its you, this is fully you, but I dunno if its AI or not.

Honestly I'm torn on it, Sams thing actually empowers me...

I have reasons for keeping Sam alive, as pissy as I am for the wasted night action...

But ya'll make some damn good arguments. Lemme see where the votes are at, I don't wanna pull a TL

VOTE: Sam [Yeet-1]

From "thinking on it" and "you need to target mahi" to "getting people pleaser vibes guill, you know that aint a good vibe" when he acquiesces; then suggesting Sam's power empowers you somehow and having reasons to keep them alive, but then you jump on to put them at E-1 until you realise Guillo's vote didn't count to put them on the edge...

Also I highly suspect we have lost majority due to guillo being silenced

Why does Guillo losing their vote to the posting rule make you think we've lost majority?

Because those fighting to keep Samantha alive are most likely scum aligned or independents who benefit from town killing roles getting permablocked.
Now, count them.

[Almost50]

Seriously, guillo is both mechtown and actually acts town unlike

TL

or Sam

*checks the poster*
*checks the post again*
*wonders if TL has been turned Jester*

[Almost50]

@TL: What exactly was your role again? And who did you target, please?

[TemporalLich]

@TL: What exactly was your role again? And who did you target, please?

I'm a Town Corrupt Fight Stopper... who has holstered the entire game

[Almost50]

Ah, so not a visiting role. OK

[TemporalLich]

I can force two players to not talk about each other or to each other for the next 72 hours.

[Almost50]

Yes, I did check it out when you said what it is exactly. What I'm asking is "does it count as a visit?". And you having holstered is confirmed because you need to post your action in thread

[TemporalLich]

My role visits two people at a time... it is a two target day role

[CaptainS]

Why have you remained holstered all the game can i just ask? I just wanted your thoughts behind this.

[CaptainS]

The case to elim Samantha is an interesting one. Having read back over the past two days properly.
I'm still eering on the side of caution as we have until Friday until the deadline. But if push comes to shove i'll vote with the town majority.

Guillo losing his voting power is a big concern for the fact that i brought attention to earlier. Surely having played mafia before and not reading the posting rules STILL is a huge red flag for me.

[Flea The Magician]

I haven't been holstered, I've been actioning every night and hoping I get a usable result. I have not I am currently pissed off that 2 supposedly town aligned players have played to have me waste my action, and that my role should've been solved by now.