Micro 1006 | Hydrogen-9121 | The End

[Agent of Chaos]

I haven't played with anyone here before, should be fun.
Anyone here a total newb? Myself and the other guy are experienced, let me know if you have any questions.
Conversation hasn't really started yet, so it's random vote time. Obviously, the guy above me can't be scum, his avatar is too cute. Perhaps it's a ploy, though...

[Agent of Chaos]

DS1 Bosses Ranked By How Well I Think They Could Protect Me From Spiders
Discussion

Smough: +Greatest spider smashing tool of all time (And I'm not even talking about his mallet). +Is daddy af. +Not a single fuck given about spiders. +Literally a spider bulldozer.

Kalameet: +Amazing AOE spider blasts. +Can telepathically command the spiders to leave. -Thinks he's Professor X.

Great Grey Wolf Sif: +Excellent Spider hunting skills. +Very Eager. +Is the goodest boi. -Sometimes might just play with the Spiders or puts them in his mouth and try to chew them but drop them on the floor by accident and then just paw at them while they spider around.

Artorias: +Highly aggro and excellent spider tracking. -Leaves goo everywhere.

Manus: +Can flatten many spiders with his giant hand. +AOE and ranged Spider killing capabilities.

Ornstein: +Quick and agile spider slaying potential. +Is a living bug zapper racket. -Would be more ideal for mosquitos and wasps.

Crossbreed Priscilla: +Can turn invisible to hunt spiders. +Is a girl, probably fucking hates spiders. -Scythe seems like impractical spider hunting weapon.

Gaping Dragon: +Innate spider fumigation powers (Acid Throw Up). -Vomit on your carpet?

Gwyn Lord of Cinder: +Has absolutely no fear of Spiders. +Can hurl lightening bolts at spiders. -Spiders probably live in his beard.

Seath The Scaleless: +Giant tentacles could crush thousands of spiders at once. +Powerful AOE spider genocide capabilities. +Is invulnerable unless the spiders infest his tree. -Seath is probably fucking terrified of spiders he just has that energy.

Dark Sun Gwyndolin: +Can use magic for long range spider kills. -Probably would run away from the spiders. -Their tentacles are almost as gross as the spiders themselves.

Iron Golem: +Almost completely invulnerable to Spiders. +Could crush hundreds of spiders with every step. -Might die if a spider bites his heel.

Demon Firesage: Same pros and cons as Asylum Demon but benefits from +Accidentally kills lots of spiders when he farts +Devastating AOE Spider killing blasts

Capra Demon: Average Spider killing potential. -Demons probably don't care too much about spiders. +Dual wielding spider smashers is a plus tho.

Asylum Demon/Stray Demon: +Good spider smashing weapon. -Poor spider tracking. -Probably doesn't care too much about spiders

Bell Gargoyle: -Poor spider killing weapon. -Poor spider searching visibility due to impractical helmet.
-Often very lethargic (made of stone?). +There are two of them which means more spider killing man-power and can kill spiders in two different places at the same time.

Ceaseless Discharge: -Too big to notice spiders. +Probably accidentally kills lots of spiders due to involuntary lava discharge.

Taurus Demon: -Probably doesn't care about spiders. -God forbid a spider get the drop on him.

Four Kings: -Too dark to see spiders in the abyss. +Spiders might not even exist in the abyss. +Extremely high spider killing manpower. +Spiders have extremely low DPS capabilities. -The Abyss is scarier than spiders.

Moonlight Butterfly: +Spider killing laser beams. -Distant relative of spiders? -Probably doesn't care about spiders.

Pinwheel: -Is a little bitch. -Is sometimes multiple little bitches.

Centipede Demon: -Is also an Arthropoda (may have compassion for spiders).

Gravelord Nito: -Definitely doesn't care about spiders. -Contains many spiders. -Can summon skeletons containing more spiders.

Bed of Chaos: -Utterly infested with spiders.

Chaos Witch Quelaag: -Is literally a Spider.

[Agent of Chaos]

lynch

Someone is getting a permaban.
Say your prayers!

[Agent of Chaos]

Oh. N_M is in the game? Astonishing, if he is town, we can random-TERMINATE a townie with help of scum!

Enchant, are you town?

[Agent of Chaos]

You accuse me of being mafia?
How do you know that I am mafia and not werewolf?
There is only one way!
You are mafia yourself!

VOTE: Rational Madman

[Agent of Chaos]

So fakeclaim VT and I will never get TERMINATED.
Gotcha!

[Agent of Chaos]

I was.

[Agent of Chaos]

Does nobody recognize that text?

[Agent of Chaos]

I am really surprised nobody recognized that crumb.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... doing%20so.

[Agent of Chaos]

lynch

Someone is getting a permaban.
Say your prayers!

Roughly how serious is this?
I'm guessing not very but with a grain of truth that it should be avoided?

It has racistic subtext.
I am crazy enough to take down Batman, but BLM? No - thank you!

[Agent of Chaos]

If Not_Mafia can't control himself and hold back from hammering as town, that is a severe violation. I don't want to be accused of OGI so I won't discuss the implications of that. However, it is 100% anti-town to hammer before the voted has a chance to claim in this setup even if you are one of the two PRs.

Yes. It's anti-town.
No, he still doing that.

We shouldn't cower out of voting just because someone has a meta of hammering as any alignment. It's them who should cower out of doing so.

As long as no one at E-1, we are fine. We can ask claims on E-2 without much danger.


And yes, i am Town.

This is not the solution.
If I get there I will refuse to claim at E-2, I'm not going to be part of an obviously worse strategy just to accommodate for town (not that we even know that that is the case) who are intentionally playing poorly.

I agree. Letting N_M and/ or me lolhammer is much better strategy.

[Agent of Chaos]

[Agent of Chaos]

Oh man.
If I stop trolling, Madman will stop townreading me!

[Agent of Chaos]

I strongly opt for lolhammerring.
Claimed cop is twice as likely to be fake than not!

[Agent of Chaos]

If furries are on, cop is just named townie.
Like... chocolate townie!
Do you like vanilla or chocolate more?

[Agent of Chaos]

True. If he makes it to 3v2, we get 5/30 win, not 4/30
If he somehow makes it even to 2v1 we get an astonishing 2/6->3/6.

I can already see my odds rising!

[Agent of Chaos]

I think you do not get my point.

FURRIES -> cop ≈ VT
MAFIA -> cop is 66% fake.

FURRIES -> Seer is 66% fake.
MAFIA -> Seer ≈ VT

Since we are auto-TERMINATING Vanilla Townies, we might as well auto-TERMINATE almost Vanilla Townies.

[Agent of Chaos]

Anyways. I made a harmonogram for day 1:

Wednesday - Friday: introduction, mech talk
Saturday - Monday: silence
Monday - Tuesday: we create 2 or 3 possible wagons
Tuesday - Wednesday: rush-TERMINATION without claim

Any suggestions/ questions?

[Agent of Chaos]

They have 25% to be almost VT, 50% to be scum, 25% to be actually useful.

[Agent of Chaos]

If this is game with dogs, Cop without CC is just confirmed townie. If this game with mafia, Seer without CC is just confirmed Townie.

I agree.
Confirmed Townie, almost useless role.

[Agent of Chaos]

So...
Anyone having reads on Vander?
I don't!

[Agent of Chaos]

I never said I scumread you!
I merely accused you of something you didn't do and then proceeded to vote you.

[Agent of Chaos]

Yet, he doesn't vote anyone.
VOTE: Robert
Peeka-

Spoiler:

[Agent of Chaos]

Ye, go mingle with us!
We don't bite!
At least they don't.

[Agent of Chaos]

Oh! T-1 then.
The moderator is prodding N_M, am I correct?

[Agent of Chaos]

Hasta la vista, Robert!

[Agent of Chaos]

Yay, I claim!
VOTE: unvote

Edited by Sirius9121: UNVOTE:

[Agent of Chaos]

Well I'm not unvoting, he's also weirdly feigning being brand new by saying it's his first micro game but isn't his first game.

I mean, his join date is like two weeks ago and what he said was that he was noobish and that this is his first micro which is not wrong.

I would still rather vote AOC who has been very active but has contributed nothing but trolls and bad strategy advice.

Do what you want, I'm vanilla.

[Agent of Chaos]

May by a bluff.
Though, for mafia it would be better to just fake reads!
Not sure about werewolves.

[Agent of Chaos]

Same for scum.

[Agent of Chaos]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Carbon-14

Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partner here [QuickTopic link].

@mod

Do mafia/ furries have daytalk?

[Agent of Chaos]

I think scum tend to be more responsible than town. Townie "throwing" a game by claiming under pressure is somewhat common, scum not that so.

Enchant is fairly towny! I am trolling a lot, so from experience I know people who defend me are usually town. Scum just take low hanging fruit.

[Agent of Chaos]

He posts a lot, some of it is game strategy, calling active players town, and less active players scum - for some reason keeps saying AoC is trolling? Most of his posts are complete garbage filler, but hey. That's how he keeps tight control of the narrative.

I agree with this; I do not trol!

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I just noted. Each letter coloured individually! Impressive.

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[Agent of Chaos]

As scum, AoC would probably (if Robert isn't his partner) sit there giggling and wait for someone to hammer.

Lies - I wouldn't giggle!
I would maniacally laugh.

[Agent of Chaos]

So Robert's flip is indeed important to structure any day 2 reads and is safest to still eliminate, I will revote after Robert outs reads or when time demands

You just decided I'd be the easiest townie to slay on my second post and you've been piling on nonstop ever since, hoping to bamboozle the other players into submitting to your will, like the good little scum that you are.

I asked you several questions, please answer them.

At the very least, explain your reads on any player except me.

You're scum, you're wasting my time, you already know my alignment.

Not really. Knowing one's alignment is the first thing.
The second is persuading others about it!

[Agent of Chaos]

I'll give my thoughts about whoever, whenever I goddam please.

[Agent of Chaos]

VOTE: Robert M Hunter

Okay, like the lack of re-evaluation is exactly the kind of naked aggression I would expect from scum here. It’s probably just a low effort AtE and it’s weird how you’re doing all these twists and turns to suddenly defend him for no good reason

-Xi

Right now so many people voted Robert, that he *must* be town!
One person solved, 3 to go.

[Agent of Chaos]

4 solved*

[Agent of Chaos]

Sigh

Stop TERMINATING blatant towns.

[Agent of Chaos]

XI scum,
TIs check N_M.
Eventually, Vander or me.
Everything else is a waste of your power.

[Agent of Chaos]

I wanted to post this before I die:

Spoiler: mild profanity

[Agent of Chaos]

VT.

[Agent of Chaos]

Heh, like I would claim something else as either alignment!

[Agent of Chaos]

xijinping (hydra)
Vanderscamp
Agent of Chaos
RationalMadman

Gonna be fun!

Scum didn't try to derail Hunter's wagon.
Lack of activity or overabundance of bussing?

[Agent of Chaos]

Well I'm voting you.

Ouch!

[Agent of Chaos]

I didn't create a new wagon.

[Agent of Chaos]

You told me to.
An I though he was putting him on E-2!

[Agent of Chaos]

Why did you do it because I told you to?

Affirmative! I am a sub.

[Agent of Chaos]

You told me to.
An I though he was putting him on E-2!

When you realised he was E-1, you kept voting him forcing out the claim at which point you instantly unvoted him.

I found his claim towny.

[Agent of Chaos]

You told me to.
An I though he was putting him on E-2!

When you realised he was E-1, you kept voting him forcing out the claim at which point you instantly unvoted him.

I found his claim towny.

What else about him did you find towny throughout the day phase that led to you never voting him again?

He did something else?

[Agent of Chaos]

You told me to.
An I though he was putting him on E-2!

When you realised he was E-1, you kept voting him forcing out the claim at which point you instantly unvoted him.

I found his claim towny.

What are your reads on everyone who is alive?

Him being a furry left me fairly discombobulated. Literally everybody has voted him, which makes linking a daunting challenge!
My guess would be the hydra, because the lack of activity would explain the absence of wagon derail!

[Agent of Chaos]

If he didn't why didn't you revote him?

He felt to me like AFK town, rather than AFK canine!

[Agent of Chaos]

You told me to.
An I though he was putting him on E-2!

When you realised he was E-1, you kept voting him forcing out the claim at which point you instantly unvoted him.

I found his claim towny.

Why?

Since I though scum would
a) try to act towny
b) try to find PR

[Agent of Chaos]

You told me to.
An I though he was putting him on E-2!

When you realised he was E-1, you kept voting him forcing out the claim at which point you instantly unvoted him.

I found his claim towny.

Why?

Since I though scum would
a) try to act towny
b) try to find PR

[Agent of Chaos]

Oooh.
So if you doubleclick, you doublepost!

[Agent of Chaos]

Great Grey

Wolf

Sif: +Excellent

Spider hunting skills

. +Very

Eager

. +Is the

goodest boi

. -Sometimes might just play with the Spiders or puts them in his mouth and try to chew them but drop them on the floor by

Spiders must be the equivalent of Seers. I think he literally softed being a werewolf in his second post of the game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comm ... hey_could/

[Agent of Chaos]

The issue is that either Agent of Chaos was softing PR or was softing being a Wolf. It comes down to what Spiders mean.

This is going to my signature.

[Agent of Chaos]

Faes not his* I am sorry I am very new to non-they/them gender-neutral pronouns, I will try my best not to make this error again.

Don't worry, I really don't care which pronoun you give to me. I chose fae because it sounded like it could cause chaos (people mispronouncing me and then correcting themselves).

[Agent of Chaos]

So... Vander.
You said that if Robert flips town, I am likely to be scum.
How did his flip affect you?

[Agent of Chaos]

I forgot to make a sentence with exclamation mark for a long time!
People might start thinking I am becoming sane.

[Agent of Chaos]

[Agent of Chaos]

I have already presented my case on the hydra?

[Agent of Chaos]

I can make a code which will post every hour "Xi is scum", if it makes you happy.

[Agent of Chaos]

I townread myself (shocking!). I townread you. I townread whoever is the only cop claim.
This leaves Vanderscamp and Xijingping as potential scum!
Vander was active, but wasn't
a) bussing Robert
b) defending Robert && trying to create another wagon

Xijingping wasn't active, so he couldn't try to derail Robert. When he came back, Robert's TERMINATION was almost decided!

[Agent of Chaos]

If I CCed N_M, would you vote outside of {me, N_M}?

[Agent of Chaos]

Vander would not tell Robert to claim Vanilla rather than Seer.

Elaborate?

[Agent of Chaos]

The Hydra was agitated with Enchant for unvoting Robert and tried to develop a case for Enchant being scum if Robert flips town, towards the ending of the Day Phase where there'd be no real point in doing so as a scum oartner of Robert, especially not when the Hudra themselves votes Robert over myself and encourages others to push.

Looks like bussing to me.

[Agent of Chaos]

Not the kind of bussing where you create a crowd to TERMINATE your partner, but where you join an already created crowd which is likely going to TERMIANTE your partner anyways.

[Agent of Chaos]

Assume I am town. Vander was around when the VT claim was cast. Hence, Vander is 99% town. Hydra wasn't around, so hydra is probably scum, who didn't tell Hunter to claim VT, and hunter claimed VT on his own. Correct?

[Agent of Chaos]

I will hopefully catch up soon

-Xi

We need you to confirm the cop claim your hydra-partner softed, or claim VT.

[Agent of Chaos]

Tarnation, was worth a shot!

[Agent of Chaos]

This is so hard if you have useless teammate!

[Agent of Chaos]

Which sane person claims a role when they are RVS wagon?
I didn't tell him to claim anything, because I didn't except that he would claim.
Bad play.

[Agent of Chaos]

Hey, wagon is building on you. You should do something about it.

Proceeds to claim.

[Agent of Chaos]

Sigh

GG, town played well.

[Agent of Chaos]

I wish he said.
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DOGS.

[Agent of Chaos]

But the way, investigatives don't get results for the night they are killed.
At least I didn't when I was investigative.

[Agent of Chaos]

RM, you were obv town.
I would literally have to get Vander and Hydra TERMINATED.

[Agent of Chaos]

You study psychology?

[Agent of Chaos]

So my actions lead to scum TERMINATION.
Neat.