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VOTE: WindowsXP

Old.

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VOTE: Cabd

Asking to revert from RVS faster, doesh't doing something for it self, classic.

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KittyTacky pinging me as newbie scum here. Not sure if the current votes are RVS but VOTE: KittyTacky

Congrats on making a non random vote! Care to share with the class your reasoning? I don't think scum will be handing us a silver platter wrong thread post this game, so you'll have to try harder on this one if town~

kinda hate cabd's post but I already hate everything cabd anyways so...

I never did figure out why that is but you do you.

Mostly

And the other lesser reason?

Where

Can't see that, anime

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You don't see how pressing T3 to express the specific reasoning for his kitty vote is me bringing that kitty vote and by extension myself and T3 and kitty to the forefront?

I don't know what to tell you, then.

No.

Asking about reason doesh't count. You posted "Oh, can RVS already end pls", after he comes and places not RVS vote, then you jump asking about reasons of this vote. It happened after.

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I swear I'm talking to a wall.

Then again our mason PT was like this too.

Ironic to read this from you.

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What leader? Everyone knows i should be one.

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What leader? Everyone knows i should be one.

I townread you lots so I agree

We have simular mind, i townread self too.

Either way, what you noticed if you want T3 vote so badly?

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So you don't think T3 is scummy?

Perhaps.

But it will be good if you tell us as well. Do you disagree with his reasoning on Kitty?

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There's many Russians, it makes me happy.

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Anya, your Framer claim is joke or...?

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Anya, your Framer claim is joke or...?

no? quite interesting to me that you doubt it

VOTE: Enchant

I feel how my braincells damaged. Framer is not normal role, i don't think it could exist here.

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Please, frame Nero Cain for confirm you are Framer.

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One dog for family.

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Please, don't frame me.

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No.

Dayvig Anya.

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Jokes aside, who is your scumread also, expect for me and T3 of course

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No, if i had dayvig, i shot in my first post.

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No.

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Do you think he is Cop?

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VOTE: T3

already complaining about being caught early in the pit fall

we should throw in the cement

I'm not complaining. Etine voted me for an invalid reason and then DeathNote and Windows also vote me without explanation.

I.. didn't ask why. I responded to something another player said with a valid reason.

You lost opportonity to joke about WereCop.

Also, i see where it comes, just looking at his ISO. Like half of his posts including "I didn't", "I just" and other shit. But most insulting is...

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T3, you win!
VOTE: T3

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Hardly believe Etine is mafia.

Mafia have better plans than going badly accusing someone day 1, and then provocate everyone by screams.

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7 new pages. Damn. Catch up soon.

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I lied about i checking up, i got bored like after... Uh... Don't remember, i just stopped caring about this game and just come back after i regained composure for that.

But i actually don't want to read everything. I simply doesh't want. Can you make it in less words, please?

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VOTE: Kitty

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Just in a case walk some iso

you had me until that question mark

VOTE: kittytacky

What? I used it because it didn't quite seem apt to describe it as fully "aggressive". It was certainly pushy which is the word which I should have used now that I think about it.

Nice shade-throwing.

That's just image. Certanly overreaction.

KittyTacky, do you have any other reads?

I'm still putting my list together. You are on the HMMMMMMM list though. I am fairly sure Rathe is town also.

Where is

Who is scummy if im townie, Kitty?

The other suspects, though them not seeming to have any association with you leads me to believe you are just a wrong townie. Which is uhhh. T3. Cabd. Arguably Etine.

Normal reaction for townie who get pushed is suspect he pushed by mafia. It's damn common to townread your accuser as mafia, because you know they are town.
There's also no explaination why you suspect them and i don't really understand what is this reason to townread him. He not linked with them you say? You already assumed everyone accused is mafia?

Etine's claim is weird. Definitely an overreaction but I... kinda see how a townie would overreact there.

I believe Vasex is town. Still don't trust Etine. Smells like an awkward claim tossed out to relieve pressure.

VOTE: Etine

Arguable. If i was Babysitter, i would claim in my first post to get nightkilled and draw someone with me (or maybe throwing tells about being Doctor around). Babysitter is overall bad claim for mafia, because they rarely get this role if i read wiki right. So one check by Cop/Rolecop/Someone with simular ability would confirm him as Town. Yes, that's leash for ya.
Also it's hard to explain why this claim not dying. Mafia not killing someone for double kill, and who can potentially block kills and take down one mafia later? Strange. So, mafia probably would think twice before claiming this.

Good point but explain how that is alignment-indicative

Townies can post at face value. Scum have to construct their posts to look townie so have more chance to overthink stuff.

I'm confused how ndmath is seeing this as a town tell

Or haven't you thought that maybe it's my style of posting?

Possible, you throwing this excuse for second time.

he said etine is townie before etine's pr claim. so what does enchant think today?

I changed my mind. It's early in day 1 still, reads change.

This question probably for me. Just noticed so...

I still think Etina is townie because of his behavior and PR claim which i discussed in this post is more or less solid. You would't want to claim Babysitter as mafia. It's... Just bad. Unless of course, Etine is bad at game which i can't believe with 5 years of expireince. Of course Etine looking not ideal paragon, but looking decent for allowing live for now.

Cabd's posts are weird. Almost like active lurking. We should investigate.

VOTE: Cabd

WhErE iS InVeStIgAtIoN?

Leaving vote doesh't count.

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UNVOTE:

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Fine Windows.

Who you suggesting INSTEAD?

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No korina flipped scum.
D1 elim had scum win con.

I'm talking about grand idea.

And as for dark fairy- 3p always dies. You just are ok with throwing town wincon to help 3p out of bias.

Why you so damn sure Kitty is town? Just because he got voted?... How long this day already, week? I remember Vasec (sorry if wrong) made accusations long ago and even T3 started that before. Do you really think this is fast wagon?

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4 days? Oh.

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Who is these 10 slots?

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Statistic says.

First wagons very ofter scum, which builded by scum to gain towncread and distancing.

So... It would be this.

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Well. I am here. Ask questions.

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Statistic says.

First wagons very ofter scum, which builded by scum to gain towncread and distancing.

So... It would be this.

I'm not sure I've ever heard that but if that's what u believe who are the scum that built this wagon?

No, really.

Mafia like bussing from start. Wiki told me so. And i see this from my expireince on this site. I am not sure if Kitty is real mafia though, it would be lucky quess where we sucessfully pinpointed mafia from start. But without mafia help? Not sure.

About who is mafia... Well, don't ask me. I am barely reading it.

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but wasn't kitty the first wagon and not etine or was etine the first wagon?

Kitty is first wagon and started by Vasex, You and T3 (i suppose). If Kitty will die as town then probably they are not mafia, because mafia would be hesitant to push. But if Kitty is mafia then i really suspect bus.

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Well even if i not Unvoted, no one probably would hammered.

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Any person who will put Kitty on E-1 will be confirmed town.

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E-1 means "One vote before you go to heaven/hell/whatever"

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PUTTING SOMEONE AT E1 MAKES SOMEONE CONFIRMED TOWN IF THEY ARE SCUM

Actually regardless of Kitty alignment. I don't see mafia just placing E-1 vote on him, so only real heroic town could do this.

So do it.

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But then i can't hammer.

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*Sad noises*

VOTE: Kitty

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This hammer?

Yes.

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UNVOTE:

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I am bad with crumbs.

Can you point exactly where?

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Aren't it makes more sense to go check Babysiter claim? Checked protective kinda op.

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Aren't it makes more sense to go check Babysiter claim? Checked protective kinda op.

are you serious here?

Yes?

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OMG I HAVE A CAKE NEXT TO MY NAME

WORSHIP ME

by unvoting kitty and going after the real scum here, Cabd

Did you miss the part when Enchant scumslipped?

I don't want how to tell you.

But it was trick, so i could hammer him. Now it's not like i want too though.

[Enchant]

Пока.

Bye.

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Yes?

that's bad

Hardly believe Etine is mafia.

Mafia have better plans than going badly accusing someone day 1, and then provocate everyone by screams.

This question probably for me. Just noticed so...

I still think Etina is townie because of his behavior and PR claim which i discussed in this post is more or less solid. You would't want to claim Babysitter as mafia. It's... Just bad. Unless of course, Etine is bad at game which i can't believe with 5 years of expireince. Of course Etine looking not ideal paragon, but looking decent for allowing live for now.

1. I can be wrong.
2. Best checks is persons who are not too town (they eat kill and probably indeed town), and who are not scummy (they eat elim). Theory says, with checking suspicious people you only confirm your suspicious, so it's better check "somewhat townie" persons. If they are town, then good, they confirmed. If they are mafia, then even better, nasty mafia denied from getting in townblock.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ew_on_Cops

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I screwed up link. Whatever you got it.

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Best checks is persons who are not too town

who are too town for you?
did you tell smb is townie for you except only 1 Etine???

No one. But i am not Cop either, so i can not care.

I just see wasting check on someone who eat elim anyway is waste.

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P.S. "Too town" means "Can't be Mafia for sure" before you subvert my words. Thx.

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you reccomend a cop (whoever he is) to check the only man that was called by you a townie
and you called him townie not once.

Where i said he is confirmed townie?

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this is not townie thinking.
because townies are interested in good check not less than cop does

I have more important things than playing Cop without Cop role.

For me, Enite check is decent. Especially because of claim.

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you have ONLY 1 TOWNIE, according to your posts.
and you ask a cop to check him, lol

You subverting my words.

I said no one confirmed townie for me.
I said Enite likely townie for me. Not confirmed.

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Latergame scum has to choose to either kill
-Power role (prioritizing protectives, bc they cover better options)
-Confirmed people (bc they win lylo)

If you confirm protective power, then you basically help scum by narrowing this down...

If Etina is town, i am not sure if they really nightkill someone who can kill them at night for this. He can even outlive me i see.

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Just in case. For Babysitter, normal strategy now is targetting scummy people, so you die with them.

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Of course he is not confirmed, but is it possible to ask a cop to check the only man, that was called by you a townie during the whole game?
You kinda afraid to name other your townies or what... You talk only about one possible townie Etine... and then you ask for checking him, like the best choice for a cop among 20 players... this is ridiculous thinking

Well. I probably just accept i am not right. I didn't payed attention to game, otherwise i would pick someone better.

But this is really subjective.

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... Honestly i am not even sure is this worth burning only check on 1n.

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Aren't it impossible for mafia have Cop ability? It's useless for them.

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Kitty claimed just Cop who finds "Guilty" or "Not Guilty", not rolecop. Cop is useless for mafia. Rolecop is not.

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do you think PR doesn't explain the differences in kitty's play between what you've seen before and this game?

huh, i know that thing, that it is convinient for mafia to claim like pr in dangerous situations, especially when they almost have no choice.
i know that easy to believe that fake, because pr often acts like a mafia for townies, having a big important role and afraid to lose it.
but i dont believe kitty now.
i dont believe any of his words.
even the moment when he plays like he accidentally came to the thread and asking is it hammering or not... ugh, this is not real behaviour.
he was sitting here all the time, counting the votes, im so sure.
and thinking about claiming in mafia chat.

Let's leash him? He check person of our choice and after tell us result.

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Enchant now is number 2 for me.

What did i win then.

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What did i win then.

The death.

Thanks, i want donate my winning to people who actually deserve it.

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who is not voting kitty today go back to newbie games

I played 5 already. Can't now.

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the townies, voting for kitty, decided to kill him today as the most possible scum for them
so if smb is unvoting first it means that this man is probably saving his partner

IF ENCHANT UNVOTED TO SAVE A COP, HE WOULDNT ASKING SMB TO VOTE TO HAMMER THIS COP AT THE SAME TIME

Enchant made big mistakes today

I didn't knew this is cop at time where i asked to place vote. I would hammer without hesitations before. Now, I don't want.

I am still notsure, but i don't want to eluminate cop claim. If he is mafia (which is fair, possible), then congratulations, i even jump in loose from happiness.

If he is Cop, then... Uh. Well. It does clear some people, especially me with that glorious slip i of course did (not like blatant joke). But why we don't just allow him to live, let waste check and kill after? Atleast then we will have Cop check if he is real. Or mafia waste firepower on him. Or something to block. Or whatever. He still die, but die in helpful manner. Why waste and do mafia work with our hands?

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Also.

No, i was not joking about Etite being possible target for Cop. I am pretty blind with reads (scumhunting not my great side), while i find him more likely town, i can't be sure. About others, i didn't even properly read game and literally just jumped on Kitty and only after decided to read, why exactly.

As i admited, i am not right with that choice of check, becaure PR tend to die. So i would check someone else instead. Or even not check anyone and wait longer if 1-shot. But this was my "Fast thing" answer. Do whatever with that info.

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How are you cleared from them flipping town LOL

"Enchant slipped he is team with Kitty"

Well, i am not. That was not even slip. Which you consider as one.

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Regarding Kitty. He is 1-Shot Cop.

Let him check, and listen to check. After kill him. If he checked mafia, then gg, we kill mafia next. If he checked townie, then we know who to protect. If Kitty is not Cop, then, well, he still die. There's no need to haste.

VOTE: T3

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He claimed 1-Shot Bulletproof, which is common for traitors.

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Well, he may be also be Serial Killer or Townie with Bulletproof (which is unlikely). I doubt SK idiocy in claiming bulletproof for sake of that. So he could be traitor.

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Town doesh't claim Bulletproof, because it makes sure they will be not targeted, wasting role.

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As mafia, i have zero motivation to remove bp, because he could be traitor.

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because it makes sure they will be not targeted, wasting role.

so is he scum for wasting his role or scum b/c he claimed bp? I mean there is a difference between those 2 arguments. like I 100% agree that he wasted his role but voting him for that just seems a bit silly, no?

Town Bulletproof would never claim he is Bulletproof, because it wastes role utility.

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ESPECIALLY when he not even getting voted.

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If yes then we know kitty is scum.

And if not?

You assuming i am mafia already, do you?

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Yea I took the time to re-read much of this thread and Enchant is indeed... slipping.

VOTE: Enchant

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DUDE.

You just admitted you are in team with me with believing in slip. Do you even read game?

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I want to say, yes fine, elim me see me flip townie, but then lynch Kitty without hesitation as it's damn funny. He ready to admit any evidence, even if it incriminate them as well.

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What i miss?

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t4 is town bc why would he counterclaim kitty with that cop claim in such a bad position but everythign about kitty is howling

Because he almost yeeted for Bulletproof claim?
Because he is highly mafia who doesh't fear nightkills?


WHY EVEN COUNTERCLAIM COP CLAIMS IF YOU CAN CHECK SOMEONE AND COUNTERCLAIM AFTER, WHAT THE LOGIC YOU USAGE

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Why T3 even fear he will be nightkilled? At Night 1? Paranoid.

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64 pages.

Nope. No.


What Case about Cabd?

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kitty is just repeating and repeating and repeating the words of other players)

Prove it.

It doesh't need to be proven, because that's truth, someone called someone mafia and here you are, let's vote!

... It happened how many times, three or so.

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I think Enchant is town.

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Enchant, what do you think about cabd? Stop ignoring it

Idk, don't kill him today. He undirectly attacked Cop claims (by stating 1-2-Shot Cops is something stupid), so if both Cops is bullshit (which is possible), he most likely town.

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Enchant, what do you think about cabd? Stop ignoring it

Idk, don't kill him today. He undirectly attacked Cop claims (by stating 1-2-Shot Cops is something stupid), so if both Cops is bullshit (which is possible), he most likely town.

so who should be killed today? t3?

Why you think my vote remains on him?

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bc you are too lazy to read the most recent events and this is something you have arguments to support

Yes.

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for example tomorrow kitty will say dcl is a scum... and you will be eliminating dcl instead of kitty
to see is it true

Would't lie, this is point. Lobby always forget what happened on passed days, so will be better to remind it tomorrow.

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7 votes on cabd, lets make 10
to force his partners or him to do some actions

You lying.

9.

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Yes.

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Cabd was on 7 from last VC.

You+NDmath made it 9.

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Nope. He has 7 votes. Count better

I count pretty well. He has 9 votes now.

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9

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Yes

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You just dont want smb to vote Cabd. That's why you are lying about votes.

I don't want to vote Cabd, because one person who he undirectly accused will be lynched next day and if flips mafia, then Cabd probably not mafia.

There's 9 votes.

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vasex knows he's at 9

I don't think so, and if so, how you know?

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VOTE: Cabd

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Bye anime.

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Well.

He is town for 99% now.

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Like... Really you will say "i was VT i don't care" as mafia?

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Of course. Do you really think i hammer my townread?... Sorry bad question.

His reaction is genuine because he didn't knew about false hammer. Ergo he is most likely town, ergo, unvote please.

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UNVOTE:

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He posted recently, so he was online and watched and reacted.

Still think this was genuine reaction.

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Can't lie.

There is exists persons, who even dying claim town for last. Do you think Cabd is this?

Naaah. He looked more like bored townie.

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Vital is not what he claimed, but how.

He claimed like bored townie. As mafia he could admit defeat, claim something more powerful, or even don't bother answering. But there we have.

No, reason "You both mafia and planned that" doesn't work on me for obvious reason.

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Enchant if you are so sure 99% that he is townie, will you vote Anastasia?

VOTE: Anastasia

When i walk iso, but you can help me with explaining why.

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enchant, did u believe he is hammered?

From start i didn't plan to hammer, so i counted votes and noticed he is not in danger actually.

When thread closed, i was... Well. Believed for a sec and started recounting. Then it opened.

So answer is yes. I believed.

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Why not? You would vote him out without my intervention, my action proved his faction with high probality.

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Btw with kitty i actually tried but failed, blame unvoters.

Fine with my elumination if you kill Kitty and T3 after, thx.

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I wish to ask.

Why you keep pushing some random people instead of me, if i am your main suspect?

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My vote was to prove, if Cabd is indeed town. It worked well for me. Can't understand what you mean by mistakes, because I didn't made them. Like, what you can point? Slip which is obvious joke? Vote which in theory can't harm town? Well, i stated what i want.

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Yes.

Where mistakes?

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and kitty confirmed that you are together)

I think he just agreed with everything said. So yeah, i suspect he is mafia and if so, I never can clean self, so can do whatever.

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are you schizophrenic?

No. And you?

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Honestly, if game turned about insulting me, just kill me and move along.

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If you think town supposed to be scumreading god who posts 9000 posts in second, i will disappoint you.

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I need to cooldown.

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Vasex pushing buttons about what i did, but completly ignore why i did.

Ergo, i can say his push is scummy and never need to explain why it this.

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Probably they included different types like "Insane" or such. They can't exists here.

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VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex
VOTE: Vasex

Vasex hammered.

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Andresvmb, you think T3 and Kitty are both town?

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Wait i wrongly readed your post. My question was dumb.

Ye, i certanly agree, probality that one of Kitty or T3 is scum is great. Honestly, Kitty looks more ugly for me, because of agreement with everything. Why you think Kitty > T3?

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VOTE: Enchant

I guess i'll stay here till the end of the day

Most funny thing, you scumread me for thing you did yourself.

Ergo, you claimed scum.

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What i miss again

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VOTE: T3

T3, explain why you want townreads to die.

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T3, explain why you want townreads to die.

thats funny
you voted your tr cabd
and you see now voting tr like a bad thing

now i have bad feeling about this

You are either blind or mafia who can't make up new argument and keeps pressing same button.

My vote had 0.1% chance to kill Cabd, and i knew that (unless someone add another vote after, that's it). This resulted in Cabd believe he was hammered and answering in town style. I actually saved my townread from lynch and i am fine with that.

What REASON you and T3 have, is another question. Action doesh't matters. Matters reason for this action.

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VOTE: T3

T3, explain why you want townreads to die.

I don't. I thougt Vasex claimed scum.

Yeah, and why he did that?

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Quickly walked Etine ISO and no, he didn't told anything about his gender.

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we are all human we make mistakes. mistakes are not scummy. it is motivation we seek. we don't need to punish bad play unless its a gross mistake. what T3 did had good intentions. it isn't scummy in any sense.

if they happen to be scum here, cool- but it has nothing to do with how they claimed.

this is a player who is relatively new to forum game culture - how would they know to claim n1/n2 cop?
/?

I was mafia in game with him and he was 3-4 night Cop in that game.

Now he is 1-2 night cop.

hmmmmmmmm

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T3 not town.

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"quickhammering cabd"

Okk, i stopping care what happens next, because you don't even read what i write, so there's no point to talk altogether. You know what to do next.

See ya.

VOTE: Enchant

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Ye i know, i got annoyed by this game.

If i need explain same thing over 9000 times, i find more important business to do, if you lynch me, you get info, it's not like i am useful town in closed setup anyway, so go ahead vote me finally.

I am VT.

[Enchant]

I end this hysteria.

VOTE: T3

[Enchant]

Hey, look!
T3 not lied, he is Cop.

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Kitty, who you checked

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I think, mafia doesh't actually need to leash someone. If they find out Cop checking someone, who is mafia member, they simple shot them or prevent check.

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Let's just kill Kitty and find out?
Then we can actually believe in his check.

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Mafia had reasons to not kill Kitty. We kinda planned to kill him regardless of check on day 2. Why kill someone who already dead.

[Enchant]

There's still possible outcome townie leashed town Cop to not-Mafia and mafia decided to not kill Cop, simple because we planned lynch him.

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We kinda planned to kill him regardless of check on day 2

Regardless to check... but not regardless t3 role
Btw dgb said that kitty will be elimed "tomorrow"

Mafia didn't knew we could change mind because of flip.

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Ok, i will play this for now

Confirmed townies for me: Samantha, bloodhail, Rathe, Kerset.
Lean town: Etine, DGB, Kitty, Mark, Dunn, Cabd
Lean scum: Andre, Anastasia, Nero, NDMath
Scums: STD, Windows, A50

How you can combine Kitty-Town with STD-Mafia? It's impossible.

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Wait who was checked again

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Oh. DGB not STD.

Disregard my words.

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154.


What i miss?

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154.


What i miss?

We are trying to someone, who townreads STD. No progress so far.

Well, STD is person who really realised my "slip" was just joke, along with some others. Mafia probably would just ignore/push me further, there's no practical benefit to save me from chop chop, unless hoping for my idiocy later (like really, i barely look at game, why pocket me).

You blaming him for unvoting his main suspect Cabd. There's problem, all people could do that and he had reason to do that. I say, townie even more likely contradict self. Mafia mostly read what they write you know.
Would they both being mafia who lightbus each other for town points is different question on which i can't answer without flipping them, but i still consider Cabd more likely townie than mafia

Looking from other way.
History mostly says most people protected me-town was "Devil Advocate" mafia, because i always end up lynched, flipping town and then they get points for white knighting.

There's possible reason in fearing going to chopchop block after Cabd, if he is town of course. Mafia always need solid reason, so when asked they could make lynched townie look like idiot who deserved it. Maybe STD reasons to think Cabd is mafia is somewhat weak and he wanted to "talk" with Cabd more for looking like person who trying to solve, not just kill everything.


... Honestly after thoughs i don't know for sure if he is mafia. Is there's also others reason to think he is one?

[Enchant]

Vasex mentality:
1. Find someone
2. Claim they are confirmed mafia for some reason
3. Vote

Stopped being funny, actually starting to think it's hard for him to actually give normal reasoning. Dodging questions not helping.

VOTE: Vasex

[Enchant]

What i miss?

[Enchant]

ok vote smb std please
one more vote please
UNVOTE:

Why you unvoting then.

[Enchant]

I have too small brain to understand this.

VOTE: Vasex

[Enchant]

Oh wait, sorry reflexive

VOTE: STD

[Enchant]

Vasex has captured my heart by reading me his favorite Russian poetry in the scum PT.

I am interested.

[Enchant]

You think I can't count again?

[Enchant]

Hey, Almost50, free hammer here.

[Enchant]

I have no reasons to not vote. Pretty enough for me.

About my post, yes. I am pretty neutral about that.

[Enchant]

Actually, before some crazy hammerer arrive.

... Or someone unvote.

[Enchant]

Vasex, if you wish to know.

I would hammer already, just for sake of that.

[Enchant]

If Vasex is town, we already won, if Vasex mafia, we already lost.

This skill of playing mafia is divine.

[Enchant]

VOTE: STD

Hey look i hammered.

[Enchant]

Enchant wishes he was as good as Vasex

This punched me in heart.
My dreams revealed.

[Enchant]

Sorry, I can't enjoy books because I can't read.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

Your time trial of my vote was expired.

[Enchant]

Vasex can read. Another confirmation he is good at mafia.

(If STD is mafia, Vasex probably too)

[Enchant]

I was sure that Ana main is sakura hana.

Sshhh.

No talking in library.

[Enchant]

Vasex, if you wanted you would vote already, do u.

[Enchant]

Not hammering to annoy Vasex.

[Enchant]

.... Uuuugh.
Teasing.

[Enchant]

Alright. Death or glory.

VOTE: STD

[Enchant]

If this flips mafia and i am dead, Vasex probably... Eh. Idk, what sense to let me hammer your scumpartners.

[Enchant]

Damn, intriguing.

[Enchant]

It would be awesome if he claim another Cop. Even-Night Cop, anyone?

[Enchant]

I just hope for the best.

[Enchant]

Only checked flips.

What i miss?

[Enchant]

And who you think is T3 buddy?

[Enchant]

Is this known who is Dunn neighbour?

[Enchant]

There is indeed "All mafia" neighbour in my last game, but that was theme game, not normal.

[Enchant]

There is indeed "All mafia" neighbour in my last game, but that was theme game, not normal.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

Literally nothing in the normal setup rules forbid a scum-scum hood from existing, or scum-scum-town, etc.

Yes, i acknowledge that, and that game also runned with promise all roles meeting normal guidelines.

This is just plain rare and looks like some insanity.

[Enchant]

What did i miss?

[Enchant]

we just need enchant to claim

Why exactly?

[Enchant]

Oh well ok.

I am Jester.

[Enchant]

I claimed VT 1 day.

[Enchant]

either claim ur real role or die

Did you want to punish me or reward.

[Enchant]

...

Why exactly we massclaim? With 2 mafia died they are unlikely getting majority soon.

[Enchant]

Just checked, Rathe found you both not holding guns?

Who is third then.

Pedit: Nevermind, odd night gunsmith.

Well. It makes sense.
1-Shot Cop looks like garbage on phone. Cops wield guns, so that's probably miller for gunsmith or something.

[Enchant]

What simple fruit vendor do? Giving fruits for vanilla?

[Enchant]

1-Shot Cop
Even Night Vanilla Cop
Odd Night Gunsmith
And Simple Fruit Giver


I am not sure about power of this. Mafia all have powerroles then? Traitor counts as Vanilla, or only VT and Mafia Goon?
Because only Gunsmith and 1-Shot Cop actually can catch mafia. Others just confirm roles as VT/Not.

Regardless, Fruit Giver can't be faked (reliable) without real Fruit Giver role. Faking others is easy, there's need to see how they play.

[Enchant]

everytime ive been limmed as town ppl just ignore anything i say and just go "koba was just being bad lol ignore anythign they said"

I listening.

[Enchant]

This game still going.

So. Who Rathe did check?

[Enchant]

Almost50, i asked about previus check, not who he checked now.

[Enchant]

Enchant > NDMath > Cabd > bloodhail > Vasex is my solve.

Now I need someone who TRs Enchant to town!case them for me like I'm a 3 months baby monkey

VOTE: Enchant

P.S. The new day PM linked directly to the flip, so pretending not to know Rathe was killed is +++ scummy

I think you can still skip Cabd, because my opinion didn't change much. He lost his activity even better, and well. I think he sharing same attlitude as me and if so he is either good at pretending or just town. And i believe in second case more.

Blood is interesting, he sharing samepurpose role with Andres, so it's possible one of mafias hiding there. As i remember, Gunsmith checked Andres and that's reason why i asking it, if so, Bloodboil could be mafia with high probality here.

Vasex is strange case. He was looking like trying to become mayor, mafia rarely assume this role for practical reason, but his decision somewhat strange he can't see reason and probably not even searching for mafia and trying too hard to hide it. Like... I just don't know. He could be.

NDmath and others is something i can't say, because i skipped howmanypages and barely look at game.

[Enchant]

We still letting cabd do nothing? ok

I want to hear from vasex, really missed him yesterday. One more "what I miss" from Enchant and would make me want to pl him.

What i miss

[Enchant]

Why not Nero? Unless you really suspect mafia doctor of course.

[Enchant]

If you have questions for me, free to ask before i go sleep

[Enchant]

What did i miss?

[Enchant]

Still wondering, why town need two roles for searching mafia PRs who can fake Vanilla, which is very niche thing.

[Enchant]

Blood claimed Even Vanilla Cop (or odd idk)
Andre claimed Simple Fruit Vendor.

They both for same purpose.

[Enchant]

Aye.

Andres, who you sended fruit.

[Enchant]

Lets kill NDMath and if it is scum the next one - Andre

I dont understand mechanics, where is the fruit you sent to Samantha

1. He lying
2. Samantha lying about claim
3. Samantha lying about fruit and pretending
4. Someone with block ability

1 and 2 are self explaining, 3 is something dumb, why mafia would do that, 4 is strange, because why Kitty not blocked 1n then

[Enchant]

If you are mafia with block, raise hand.

[Enchant]

Here's high possibility of 1 mafia in Samantha/Andre/Kitty. So we need vote one of them. Forget about Math.

I will decide who first later, i need read ISO and i don't have will to do it right now.

[Enchant]

Bullshit.

VOTE: NDmath

[Enchant]

Bullshit.

VOTE: NDmath

You said you wont vote math-cabd
And asked not to vote them
What did change your mind?

I didn't change my mind, i am just not willing to fight whole lobby "SCUMREADING", and in choice Cabd/NDMath i select NDMath.