Look I’m done posting for now. I don’t want to waste my breath or time arguing something that’s not going to go anywhere. Let’s please just hurry this up and vote to exclude me, see what happens. Maybe we win and I’m worrying about nothing.
This would be a bold gambit though. If Andres scum, it's surely with another in the group of 5. He remains voting to exclude himself for quite a while
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
I think the fact that Infinity was specifically excluded in a situation that turned in Scum’s favor has to heavily weigh in any analysis of Infinity’s alignment. How could it not? I’m not even sure if Ydrasse being either alignment makes a difference.
I think the likeliest person to be Scum has to be an advocate for excluding Infinity that was otherwise also in the Team. That of course includes me too to a degree.
I don't understand. Let's assume Infinity is scum - from your town PoV the other scum is in the other 4 in your group with you. It literally doesn't matter to them who in your group is excluded at all since they would always have scum in
Look I’m done posting for now. I don’t want to waste my breath or time arguing something that’s not going to go anywhere. Let’s please just hurry this up and vote to exclude me, see what happens. Maybe we win and I’m worrying about nothing.
This would be a bold gambit though. If Andres scum, it's surely with another in the group of 5. He remains voting to exclude himself for quite a while
Group of 6 actually, would also work if he was scum with Infinity
I think the fact that Infinity was specifically excluded in a situation that turned in Scum’s favor has to heavily weigh in any analysis of Infinity’s alignment. How could it not? I’m not even sure if Ydrasse being either alignment makes a difference.
I think the likeliest person to be Scum has to be an advocate for excluding Infinity that was otherwise also in the Team. That of course includes me too to a degree.
I don't understand. Let's assume Infinity is scum - from your town PoV the other scum is in the other 4 in your group with you. It literally doesn't matter to them who in your group is excluded at all since they would always have scum in
Yeah that’s if Ydrasse as Town picked two Scum. Which I guess is possible maybe I’m discarding that too hard.
Look I’m done posting for now. I don’t want to waste my breath or time arguing something that’s not going to go anywhere. Let’s please just hurry this up and vote to exclude me, see what happens. Maybe we win and I’m worrying about nothing.
This would be a bold gambit though. If Andres scum, it's surely with another in the group of 5. He remains voting to exclude himself for quite a while
Group of 6 actually, would also work if he was scum with Infinity
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You would have to think that I’m engaging in theater at the beginning of the day then.
In post 1126, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think it's andres because he didn't know how to react to my cat reaction test which works about 100% of the time
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
HURT: alisae for now, mainly because I'm paranoid of em and I feel varying degrees of comfortable with everyone else on the attackers list. I'd be ok leaving out pooky or maybe andres as well
I think this is Scum.
Why?
Because Alisae is Town. I’m like almost certain of it. It’s the only strong read I have. So this guarantees there will be Scum almost among the choices to be made that could end the game.
In post 584, Andresvmb wrote:In fact both the Attacker and the Healer Leaders picked Alisae for their respective Teams. Why is that the one choice you’re looking to exclude?
Andres I'm not sure why you're being like this. I don't think alisae is obvious town and I explained my reasoning, I also would be ok having alisae in a team this is a pretty ??? reason to think I'm scum
I actually thought Andres's side of this interaction (didn't quote all the posts) looked unaligned with Infinity but this post from Infinity looks partnery with Andres. It feels off tonally for her
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
Look here’s the reason I wanted a re-evaluation of Ydrasse. If I’m Scum, I’m picking the Team, I’ve selected my Partner, and my Team is gathering most of the votes, I try my hardest not to do much and just let it happen so that we move on. That’s why I suggested we re-evaluate Ydrasse.
In post 1119, Sha 77 wrote:Andres, as I understand it, Alisae eventually gave into everyone calling you scum and was okay with compromise excluding you. I don't see the scum agenda in this as why not continue to pocket you, and it's not like they care about who makes the group up - they were always being included if they're scum.
Can you explain why that made you reconsider your essentially locktown read on them and made you vote to exclude them?
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
In post 1119, Sha 77 wrote:Andres, as I understand it, Alisae eventually gave into everyone calling you scum and was okay with compromise excluding you. I don't see the scum agenda in this as why not continue to pocket you, and it's not like they care about who makes the group up - they were always being included if they're scum.
Can you explain why that made you reconsider your essentially locktown read on them and made you vote to exclude them?
This too please
I think I reacted to this in real time. I don’t know what you expect me to say now that will change anything. If I’m being consistently TR by someone, and when the pressure begins to mount on me they abandon their TR and signal that they would be okay excluding me, why wouldn’t I be suspicious of that? Wouldn’t you?
What are you talking about. I thought this was entirely possible. I surely remember votes piling onto Sha 77 for instance at one stage, who picked the other Team.
Modnote: You may not put one vote on each option like in the undertale series, voting for an attacker team overwrites your vote for a healer team and vice versa
In post 1119, Sha 77 wrote:Andres, as I understand it, Alisae eventually gave into everyone calling you scum and was okay with compromise excluding you. I don't see the scum agenda in this as why not continue to pocket you, and it's not like they care about who makes the group up - they were always being included if they're scum.
Can you explain why that made you reconsider your essentially locktown read on them and made you vote to exclude them?
This too please
I think I reacted to this in real time. I don’t know what you expect me to say now that will change anything. If I’m being consistently TR by someone, and when the pressure begins to mount on me they abandon their TR and signal that they would be okay excluding me, why wouldn’t I be suspicious of that? Wouldn’t you?
No, because I'd look at the motive Alisae has to do that as both alignments. You were essentially basing your entire read on Alisae based on how they were reading you, and ignored all the precious reasons you had to think they were town, there's obvious benefits to do that as scum which is my concern
Modnote: You may not put one vote on each option like in the undertale series, voting for an attacker team overwrites your vote for a healer team and vice versa
In post 1119, Sha 77 wrote:Andres, as I understand it, Alisae eventually gave into everyone calling you scum and was okay with compromise excluding you. I don't see the scum agenda in this as why not continue to pocket you, and it's not like they care about who makes the group up - they were always being included if they're scum.
Can you explain why that made you reconsider your essentially locktown read on them and made you vote to exclude them?
This too please
I think I reacted to this in real time. I don’t know what you expect me to say now that will change anything. If I’m being consistently TR by someone, and when the pressure begins to mount on me they abandon their TR and signal that they would be okay excluding me, why wouldn’t I be suspicious of that? Wouldn’t you?
No, because I'd look at the motive Alisae has to do that as both alignments. You were essentially basing your entire read on Alisae based on how they were reading you, and ignored all the precious reasons you had to think they were town, there's obvious benefits to do that as scum which is my concern
If you’re reading me correctly early when it doesn’t suit you, then surely that biases you somewhat. I don’t always think that players throwing correct TRs out there are Town obviously that would be silly. But Alisae seemed thoughtful, and they were arriving at the correct conclusion about me. So I thought okay, some positive points there. But people reveal much more about themselves in spots when it’s convenient. If in order to completely avoid losing, you need to throw me under the bus, and ignore your prior read as Scum, I think the pressure to do it is intense. So that has to make you at least reconsider how hard you were TR’ing that person. I don’t think this is irrational.
Modnote: You may not put one vote on each option like in the undertale series, voting for an attacker team overwrites your vote for a healer team and vice versa
