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Post #1185 (isolation #204) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:36 pm
Postby Sha 77 »
I understand that people are biased to reflect reads, Infinity
It's just that Andres's case on Alisae was extreme - he went from locktown and saying he's always including them in every team to voting to exclude them
And reflecting reads is +scum on average ya know, it's just that town does it a lot of the time too
Can I hear your thoughts on the Sha/Flea/Cakez pool?
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Post #1226 (isolation #206) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:17 am
Postby Sha 77 »
She was my top scumread for most of that game
Ngl, Andres's timestamping between posts are impressive if he's scum. He's good at spewing whatever out there on short notice without second guessing himself
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Post #1233 (isolation #210) » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:38 am
Postby Sha 77 »
Well, the meta points towards you being town. The 2 scumgame links that work show a more agreeable and less controversial Andres with far less frustration
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Post #1348 (isolation #216) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:05 am
Postby Sha 77 »
We really shouldn't be voting for Ydrasse though, she's still my top townread. She was posting content far too easily and responding in less than a minute eith it when questioned on day 1. I think scum!Ydrasse struggles to produce content like that on demand that feels so natural. I've been pocketed by her before this is true, but I'm right far more often than I'm wrong.
Flea being hypocritical and voting Ydrasse for being lazy while admitting fae is is towny. Pooky townreading Andres was towny but I give Pooky specifically less cred for it because Pooky is just the sort of person to townread his main competitor in being launched to look towny to others (as scum). tris has left less and less of an impact on me as the game's gone on, and that could be scum feeling burnt out on earlier effort, it is a lot harder to maintain that effort when you have to LIE and DECIEVE.
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Post #1354 (isolation #219) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:17 am
Postby Sha 77 »
In post 1210, tris wrote:i'm actually leaning towards an andres vote right now believe it or not
In post 1243, tris wrote:ydra, sha, infinity, andres, and alisae all look town to me to varying degrees. so, pooky?
that would have to mean pooky and one of flea and cakez. that feels kind of off though.
maybe i'm wrong on alisae? idk
i feel like i'm doing something wrong.
(flipped back on andres because i understand better where he's coming from with the stuff today that confused me)
(i'm now townreading sha because i like how his progression on andres here)
This random unexplained flip on tris is pretty towny. Unless she likes to just change her scumreads on a whim as scum with little progression, but I think she'd want to be cleaner based on the rest of her play
I'm looking through her ISO and I don't actually see any reasons to scumread her. The HEAL onto you is selfless and towny, and the townreading of Andres before others started to is good as well (assuming they're not partners)
I will ask though, tris: What exactly made you doubt and want to vote for Andres momentarily?
The way Andres words things can sound super scummy but I think that's an NAI thing, Ydrasse. From meta I found he's far less animated or passionate as scum, and just argues less overall.
In post 756, Alisae wrote:fwiw, I do think going the Ydra group is 100% better but not for the reasons that you guys think.
I actually think that is the group that contains the 2 scum and I don't think its andres.
I think if we wanted to try to find scum we go for the Ydra group but if we want to gamble on trying to win the game, we go for the sha group.
If any group fails, we need to kill the group leader to understand why the group fail. Was it because the group was picked by scum or it was picked by town and they misread someone? From there it becomes significantly easier to hunt.
I think the Ydra group always fails. I'm way too paranoid of pooky and something feels off about Ydra.
I think its possible that I could just be misreading Flea
What on earth is this post
Why do you ever "try to find scum" rather than just go for the win with 5 town?
If you go for the win:
-You either just win, or find scum in the group of 5
If you try and find scum:
-You find scum in the group of 5
??? Elaborate please, Ali
This is by far the scummiest post Alisae made and I still don't understand their explanation tbh
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Post #1357 (isolation #222) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:24 am
Postby Sha 77 »
Pooky...
His jokey pushing on me very early felt weird to me, and he never answered seriously on whether there was any real suspicioun to it - was there, Pooky?
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Post #1358 (isolation #223) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:28 am
Postby Sha 77 »
In post 1177, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im like getting the feeling andy actually believes the stuff he is saying cuz its so bad that only a bad townie could believe it. There's no way a scum just doubles down here right?
This was towny and so was the cat reaction test read that came before it
grumble gromble
UNVOTE: Pooky
If I disregarded meta this would be the easiest Andres vote of my life, but now I do not know
@Infinity: What did you learn from Andres's meta when you went on that venture yourself and why didn't you bring it up earlier when he was under suspicion before I did?
In post 1263, tris wrote:explain how ambivalence is scummy. ambivalence is not apathy. i haven't been apathetic. it's because i care what happens that i struggle with what the correct choice is.
like even thought hectic is at maybe 20-30% of his full power and ali comes in with bursts, I feel like they really
care
about what happens,
and I don't get that feeling from you, it's like you're ok with whatever happens?
It feels like you got to a UTR position early and then just kind of faded and let the game state sort of flow from there cuz there wasn't really any danger to you anymore.
like I dunno maybe this is how you play town and you are actually town here but then like wtf r the scum even doing in this game?
This scumread is really big picturey, do you have specific posts of tris that reflect that or ones you don't like for other reasons?
This is probably gonna have to be a PoE/least towny vote for me come end of day. Sorry, I know you hate those, Pooky.
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Post #1364 (isolation #225) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:40 am
Postby Sha 77 »
Nah, I haven't ruled out 5 town yet. It's possible both scum are outside but are really good hagglers, and managed to convince Isis to overlook the earlier "win"
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Post #1366 (isolation #226) » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am
Postby Sha 77 »
In post 1363, Infinity 324 wrote:For the andres meta, I felt like he wasn't as assertive or good at handling pressure as scum. I kinda forgot about it earlier tbh but it still had a big impact on my read. I forget how different reading people is when you don't know their meta
Any reason you didn't bring it up after you did the research?
