Happy Face Mafia (Game Over)

[samantha97]

if robertbell is town, who is mafia?

[Andante]

Didn't you complain about how "short" this game day was? How come you're still not caught up in this short game then?
I dont get you. You complain there's not enough pages and then dont even bother to read the "small" amount of pages according to you.

Like why come ask us so many questions and call us scum for reasons that dont even apply when you can just go read the short little game? It's blatantly obvious what alignment we are and maybe if you read the game instead of complained about the pace, it would be much easier for everyone?

-Noraa

no, I wasn't complaining, was just shocked 18 people had less than 1000 posts, I have a different game that had a quicker deadline, so that's where my focus has mostly been, like, yall locked in a duel, I'm not voting the gladiator, so that left 1 option, regardless of what I've read, my focus has had to be elsewhere, I can't discuss, but I wasn't complaining about so little content, and if I stayed up last night, I could've read to where we're at, I mean, sorry if you didn't like any of my questions, but I feel like reading yalls stuff, and asking yall questions has helped me, like, I feel I have a decent understanding of what happened without actually reading any of it. I could've just stayed silent here, but I didn't I chose to try and engage with yall, sorry if you hated my questions, I'm literally just trying my best here

It’s fine, I hated your read on us, which is why I called you out on it and I liked your reaction and this one even better. I don’t think scum ever has this kind of reaction.

@Noraa I was specifically referring to my treatment of Flea in Death Curse, not implying anything about you at all. <3

Awesome, glad the bears don't hate me!!!
Like, I fully welcome anyone to challenge my reads, if I sr a town, please prove me wrong, if I tr a scum, I'd love for town to step in and go "heyyyy wanna rethink that?" Like, I honestly think it's been the best method for helping me find scum!!

Alright, I'm done chatting here, I think day's hammered anyways, next time yall hear from me, I think everyone will love the content I plan on delivering Scum... you better be scared!!

[Bear HUGS]

if robertbell is town, who is mafia?

I think you’re wrong but I also think you may actually really believe he’s town. It really doesn’t make a lot of sense for scum!you to keep pushing this after he’s already been hammered.

I could keep saying read our metacase but atp, it’s really up to the flip. Gun to head. I really do think it will be a scumflip and therefore don’t really see the wisdom of responding to this.

Obviously if he’s town, then Titus is probably a townlock, I just really doubt it.

[Bear HUGS]

Didn't you complain about how "short" this game day was? How come you're still not caught up in this short game then?
I dont get you. You complain there's not enough pages and then dont even bother to read the "small" amount of pages according to you.

Like why come ask us so many questions and call us scum for reasons that dont even apply when you can just go read the short little game? It's blatantly obvious what alignment we are and maybe if you read the game instead of complained about the pace, it would be much easier for everyone?

-Noraa

no, I wasn't complaining, was just shocked 18 people had less than 1000 posts, I have a different game that had a quicker deadline, so that's where my focus has mostly been, like, yall locked in a duel, I'm not voting the gladiator, so that left 1 option, regardless of what I've read, my focus has had to be elsewhere, I can't discuss, but I wasn't complaining about so little content, and if I stayed up last night, I could've read to where we're at, I mean, sorry if you didn't like any of my questions, but I feel like reading yalls stuff, and asking yall questions has helped me, like, I feel I have a decent understanding of what happened without actually reading any of it. I could've just stayed silent here, but I didn't I chose to try and engage with yall, sorry if you hated my questions, I'm literally just trying my best here

It’s fine, I hated your read on us, which is why I called you out on it and I liked your reaction and this one even better. I don’t think scum ever has this kind of reaction.

@Noraa I was specifically referring to my treatment of Flea in Death Curse, not implying anything about you at all. <3

Awesome, glad the bears don't hate me!!!
Like, I fully welcome anyone to challenge my reads, if I sr a town, please prove me wrong, if I tr a scum, I'd love for town to step in and go "heyyyy wanna rethink that?" Like, I honestly think it's been the best method for helping me find scum!!

Alright, I'm done chatting here, I think day's hammered anyways, next time yall hear from me, I think everyone will love the content I plan on delivering Scum... you better be scared!!

I like that you’re open to having your reads questioned and I think you townified a slot that was getting sr due to replace outs. While that arguably isn’t a good look for any slot, you just seem really super genuine and the enthusiasm also reads highly town indicative to me. Also, I really don’t see much of an agenda in your posting at all, so I feel pretty good on you being town here.

This is Nancy head btw, in case that wasn’t obvious.

[Titus]

if robertbell is town, who is mafia?

I still think Raya is scum regardless.

I know RMH's posting hasn't been good and Retti is almost certainly town.

I really hope I am right on RMH though. It looks less likely to be the case with the self vote.

It really doesn't matter FMPOV if RMH is town, he's still the better play with Retti being obvtown. RMH's death, if town, confirms multiball which creates an interesting dynamic. It also weakens RMH's value. If RMH flips cop, it's unfortunate but still the optimal play as Retti is town. Scum Retti holds his gladiate I think unless his gladiate gates a stronger scum power.

[Bear HUGS]

if robertbell is town, who is mafia?

I still think Raya is scum regardless.

I know RMH's posting hasn't been good and Retti is almost certainly town.

I really hope I am right on RMH though. It looks less likely to be the case with the self vote.

It really doesn't matter FMPOV if RMH is town, he's still the better play with Retti being obvtown. RMH's death, if town, confirms multiball which creates an interesting dynamic. It also weakens RMH's value. If RMH flips cop, it's unfortunate but still the optimal play as Retti is town. Scum Retti holds his gladiate I think unless his gladiate gates a stronger scum power.

if robertbell is town, who is mafia?

I still think Raya is scum regardless.

I know RMH's posting hasn't been good and Retti is almost certainly town.

I really hope I am right on RMH though. It looks less likely to be the case with the self vote.

It really doesn't matter FMPOV if RMH is town, he's still the better play with Retti being obvtown. RMH's death, if town, confirms multiball which creates an interesting dynamic. It also weakens RMH's value. If RMH flips cop, it's unfortunate but still the optimal play as Retti is town. Scum Retti holds his gladiate I think unless his gladiate gates a stronger scum power.

Maybe I’m wrong on you then? Raya could be scum? But I really think the right flip today happened. I really do think he’s flipping scum here.

[Titus]

I need to take a look at both ways in a bit. Breakfast first though.

[Titus]

Maybe I’m wrong on you then? Raya could be scum? But I really think the right flip today happened. I really do think he’s flipping scum here.

There's four possibilities and I'll rank them.

1) Retti is town, RMH is scum. The self-vote makes it likely I am wrong. Raya is NAI but still scum by play. The gladiate cuts off the wagon formation.

2) Retti is town, RMH is town. Multiball, likely Raya scum.

3) Retti scum, RMH town/opposing scum. Retti gladiate unlocks a power for him.

4) All three are scum of the same faction. Retti saves Raya.

[Titus]

I still think we are in 1 though given RMH's sub in.

[Titus]

Well there is a 5) Retti scum saves Raya scum and RMH is scum of opposing faction.

[samantha97]

titus I think you missed the part where robert said seer was a joke claim

[Titus]

VC 1.5

Bell (5): Esooa, Enchant, PenguinPower, Bear HUGS, Raya36
Raya36 (4): jjh927, Titus, Retti, Bamboozle
samantha97 (3): VFP, Romance, willow1
Romance (2): Bell, WhemeStar
Retti (1): Flea The Magician,
Titus (1): T3
Enchant (1): Dunnstral

Not Voting (1): samantha97

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-04-27 00:50:57)

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 to fade away

Let's look at Raya's wagon. Retti is likely town and we're assuming he's town for purposes of this exercise. JJH encouraged the Raya vote based on the case I made. I don't think he spends his little capital doing that if he knows Bell/RMH is scum unless Raya also is. So we can rule out jjh scum, raya town.

That means if scum were trying to save Bell by sheeping my wrong case, it would have to be Bamboozle. If my Raya case is right, the Raya wagon is all town.

Tldr: One of Raya/Bam should flip scum.

I'm also assuming singleball.

[Titus]

titus I think you missed the part where robert said seer was a joke claim

Oh. Ok. Then some of my possibilities are wrong. The self vote doesn't look good still. Maybe RMH town just accepted his fate. I'd expect more hunting to come, even if demotivated though.

[Titus]

Hold up, no one hammer yet. I had hinted at this earlier but now is a good time to out this:

I am a gladiator and there is a benefit to me using my ability.

There are two caveats to this: I have to use it twice, and it has to be before 7 days have passed in each day phase that I use it. If I meet those conditions, something good happens but I am going to be as vague as possible otherwise to avoid giving away too much information. I very nearly rage-dueled Esooa in the midst of our argument but I'm glad I calmed down and decided against it. This is why I asked if people were okay with voting out Bell, because if so I can just safely piledrive him with no worries. This wouldn't change anything about the day but I really want to use my ability here.

Just use it on

Bell

-Bam

Why is Bam, who is voting Raya, encouraging a gladiate on Bell?

[Titus]

T3 likely scum sheeping Willow. Regardless, I expect one scum in Willow/T3. I don't think Willow is taking advantage of the fact I said our playstyles would crash.

[Flea The Magician]

I don't see this as a scum claim??

God, just...just read the explanations bear hugs posted about his meta

I saw the meta about long/active posts as town, and no posts as scum, but I generally don't only rely on meta to scumread someone

Meta works more often than not IMO.

Disagree. Meta-aware players (hi) can and will shift things up.

Didn't you complain about how "short" this game day was? How come you're still not caught up in this short game then?
I dont get you. You complain there's not enough pages and then dont even bother to read the "small" amount of pages according to you.

Like why come ask us so many questions and call us scum for reasons that dont even apply when you can just go read the short little game? It's blatantly obvious what alignment we are and maybe if you read the game instead of complained about the pace, it would be much easier for everyone?

-Noraa

no, I wasn't complaining, was just shocked 18 people had less than 1000 posts, I have a different game that had a quicker deadline, so that's where my focus has mostly been, like, yall locked in a duel, I'm not voting the gladiator, so that left 1 option, regardless of what I've read, my focus has had to be elsewhere, I can't discuss, but I wasn't complaining about so little content, and if I stayed up last night, I could've read to where we're at, I mean, sorry if you didn't like any of my questions, but I feel like reading yalls stuff, and asking yall questions has helped me, like, I feel I have a decent understanding of what happened without actually reading any of it. I could've just stayed silent here, but I didn't I chose to try and engage with yall, sorry if you hated my questions, I'm literally just trying my best here

It’s fine, I hated your read on us, which is why I called you out on it and I liked your reaction and this one even better. I don’t think scum ever has this kind of reaction.

@Noraa I was specifically referring to my treatment of Flea in Death Curse, not implying anything about you at all. <3

A good example of meta being bad xD i was so far out of my depth in that game :3 also who treated me how? I've slept since. also you were in that game? o.o I know pooks and Nora were

[T3]

T3 likely scum sheeping Willow. Regardless, I expect one scum in Willow/T3. I don't think Willow is taking advantage of the fact I said our playstyles would crash.

I had an original read on you.

[Esooa]

VOTE: Robert

[Raya36]

Jesus bamboozle is such obv scum why haven’t we voted here earlier

VOTE: bamboozle

Looks like scum trying to act townie to me

I'm not seeing this

Well that bell wagon grew fast. Not really sure what to make of that. I'm not super familiar with bell's meta but their latest post doesn't appear scummy, and besides not doing much they seem fine.

Also, that last post by Bell was a straight up scumclaim, yeah? Would people be okay with just voting him out here and now?

Not a fan of this. Replacements are nai, they gave reads, the logical thing to do is wait for the replacement who we can read

I don't even see what was so bad with bell's stuff anyway. They just seemed inactive is all

Town!Bell doesn’t have a problem posting actual content and he gets extremely annoyed when wrongly sr. Here he’s wooden and makes meaningless useless posts. Remember Creature used to have “transparent” as a title because his alignment was the easiest to determine out of probably anyone on MS? That’s obviously no longer true since he now has an impressive scum!meta. Well Bell is the new Creature. His alignment is transparent.

I'd be willing to move to bell and trust your case. I can see where you're coming from although their play this game doesn't really match either their town or scum meta. I obviously prefer sam but if it comes down to it I'll switch

Ok whatever, I'll do it. But back to sam D2 if we go with bell today. At least with this flip I can decide if I should be trusting the bears or not

VOTE: bell

These posts in particular are the ones I'm referring to. Raya only caved to Bell after she became the counterwagon, and did so in a manner that looks extremely forced. I think reading her as town off of this is fallacious.

This is understandable. I still think it's unfair at the very least to judge someone as scum because of replacing out. But my progression was actually looking into the meta and Pooky's case

Hold up, no one hammer yet. I had hinted at this earlier but now is a good time to out this:

I am a gladiator and there is a benefit to me using my ability.

There are two caveats to this: I have to use it twice, and it has to be before 7 days have passed in each day phase that I use it. If I meet those conditions, something good happens but I am going to be as vague as possible otherwise to avoid giving away too much information. I very nearly rage-dueled Esooa in the midst of our argument but I'm glad I calmed down and decided against it. This is why I asked if people were okay with voting out Bell, because if so I can just safely piledrive him with no worries. This wouldn't change anything about the day but I really want to use my ability here.

Just use it on

Bell

-Bam

Why is Bam, who is voting Raya, encouraging a gladiate on Bell?

This should at least hint to you by your case, bam is the scum between us two

[T3]

Waiting on rmh flip. Not much to say right now.

[MariaR]

VC 1.final

Robert M Hunter (10): willow1, T3, Bear HUGS, Raya36, Bamboozle, Andante, samantha97, Retti, VFP, Robert M Hunter
Retti(0):

Not Voting (the rest):

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 to fade away

[MariaR]

Seems we have a flip! Information below

Spoiler: Welcome Robert M Hunter you are

Yayoi Kusakabe

Powers

You are a Mafia Role Cop

X: At night you may investigate a player to learn their role
X1: You also own a

Mask

if you choose to wear it you will become an ability thief where you will steal someone’s role for the night
Y: You will find the mafia PT here

Get your actions in Night one ends in (expired on 2021-04-27 03:56:38)

[MariaR]

And we're back! Let's see who what I missed.

Romance has died! Let's see what they were

Spoiler: Welcome Romance you are

Maid Mask

Powers

You are a Vanilla Townie

X: You have your vote and voice use them wisely
X1: You also own a

Mask

if you choose to wear it you will become a list cop. At the end of the next dayphase you must submit me a list of the entire playerlist, you will cop check the first person on your list and will go down. If someone on list dies they will be skipped

Wait, it seems we're not done here!

Bamboozle has died! Let's see what they were

Spoiler: Welcome Bamboozle you are

Yuri Honjo

Powers

You are a Town JOAT (Modposter/Ninja checker/Rolecop)

X: You have three powers each you may use only once during the game
X1: Modposter: Submit a 200 character or less message to me and I will post it at the start of the phase
X2: Ninja checker: You may check if a player has the 'ninja' modifier
N3: Rolecop: You may investigate a player and be told there role.

[MariaR]

VC 2.0

Not Voting: (15) willow1, Flea The Magician, Andante, WhemeStar, Dunnstral, PenguinPower, jjh927, Bear HUGS, Raya36, T3, Titus, Esooa, VFP, Retti, samantha97

Deadline is in (expired on 2021-05-07 05:05:29)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to fade away

[Dunnstral]

Alright, now that all of town's good roles have died incidentally, let's look back at what happened yesterday.

First of all, there were two kills, One was either from town or it's mutiball, or mafia have multiple kills. Right now I'm leaning toward the extra kill being from town.

If I remember correctly, there were a few people who had weird reactions to what seemed like a pretty bad claim. I don't know what motivated Robert to say it was a joke claim, he must have not talked to his team, or his team thought that was a good idea.