Micro 1005: Help Isis, Scholarship Student at Noon

[Ydrasse]

i feel like i this sort of game i’m not prone to read activity/presence nearly as much

unless you mean her content even when she is posting

[Sha 77]

Pre-flip associatives bad

Might be looking at an Infinity + Pre-flip associatives team here, this looks like distancing

[Sha 77]

i feel like i this sort of game i’m not prone to read activity/presence nearly as much

unless you mean her content even when she is posting

Yeah, as in the content she is posting is less impactful as time's gone on. I'll ISO her to see later

[Ydrasse]

okay okay

are you that sold on andres being town?

[Sha 77]

i'm actually leaning towards an andres vote right now believe it or not

ydra, sha, infinity, andres, and alisae all look town to me to varying degrees. so, pooky?
that would have to mean pooky and one of flea and cakez. that feels kind of off though.

maybe i'm wrong on alisae? idk

i feel like i'm doing something wrong.

(flipped back on andres because i understand better where he's coming from with the stuff today that confused me)
(i'm now townreading sha because i like how his progression on andres here)

This random unexplained flip on tris is pretty towny. Unless she likes to just change her scumreads on a whim as scum with little progression, but I think she'd want to be cleaner based on the rest of her play

I'm looking through her ISO and I don't actually see any reasons to scumread her. The HEAL onto you is selfless and towny, and the townreading of Andres before others started to is good as well (assuming they're not partners)

I will ask though, tris: What exactly made you doubt and want to vote for Andres momentarily?

The way Andres words things can sound super scummy but I think that's an NAI thing, Ydrasse. From meta I found he's far less animated or passionate as scum, and just argues less overall.

[Sha 77]

fwiw, I do think going the Ydra group is 100% better but not for the reasons that you guys think.
I actually think that is the group that contains the 2 scum and I don't think its andres.

I think if we wanted to try to find scum we go for the Ydra group but if we want to gamble on trying to win the game, we go for the sha group.

If any group fails, we need to kill the group leader to understand why the group fail. Was it because the group was picked by scum or it was picked by town and they misread someone? From there it becomes significantly easier to hunt.
I think the Ydra group always fails. I'm way too paranoid of pooky and something feels off about Ydra.
I think its possible that I could just be misreading Flea

What on earth is this post

Why do you ever "try to find scum" rather than just go for the win with 5 town?

If you go for the win:
-You either just win, or find scum in the group of 5

If you try and find scum:
-You find scum in the group of 5

??? Elaborate please, Ali

This is by far the scummiest post Alisae made and I still don't understand their explanation tbh

[Sha 77]

Reasoning on mech I think makes no sense doesn't necessarily mean scummy though, it's a logicscumread but not an alignment one

Alisae still town for other stuff I think, primarily the Ydrasse sort and discarding of Andres pocket that comes to mind

[Sha 77]

Pooky...

His jokey pushing on me very early felt weird to me, and he never answered seriously on whether there was any real suspicioun to it - was there, Pooky?

[Sha 77]

im like getting the feeling andy actually believes the stuff he is saying cuz its so bad that only a bad townie could believe it. There's no way a scum just doubles down here right?

This was towny and so was the cat reaction test read that came before it

grumble gromble

UNVOTE: Pooky

If I disregarded meta this would be the easiest Andres vote of my life, but now I do not know

@Infinity: What did you learn from Andres's meta when you went on that venture yourself and why didn't you bring it up earlier when he was under suspicion before I did?

[tris]

I will ask though, tris: What exactly made you doubt and want to vote for Andres momentarily?

1199
and
1200

is where it happened. i thought he had forgotten that he had already changed his mind on this, but his responses made sense to me, so i came back.

[Sha 77]

explain how ambivalence is scummy. ambivalence is not apathy. i haven't been apathetic. it's because i care what happens that i struggle with what the correct choice is.

like even thought hectic is at maybe 20-30% of his full power and ali comes in with bursts, I feel like they really

care

about what happens,

and I don't get that feeling from you, it's like you're ok with whatever happens?

It feels like you got to a UTR position early and then just kind of faded and let the game state sort of flow from there cuz there wasn't really any danger to you anymore.

like I dunno maybe this is how you play town and you are actually town here but then like wtf r the scum even doing in this game?

This scumread is really big picturey, do you have specific posts of tris that reflect that or ones you don't like for other reasons?

This is probably gonna have to be a PoE/least towny vote for me come end of day. Sorry, I know you hate those, Pooky.

[Infinity 324]

I've been pocketed by her before this is true, but I'm right far more often than I'm wrong.

This is part of what was affecting my read on you earlier, when I'm very wrong on a townread I don't want to ever TR that player again, but I believe that you see it differently (and you did in divide and conquer)

[tris]

explain how ambivalence is scummy. ambivalence is not apathy. i haven't been apathetic. it's because i care what happens that i struggle with what the correct choice is.

like even thought hectic is at maybe 20-30% of his full power and ali comes in with bursts, I feel like they really

care

about what happens,

and I don't get that feeling from you, it's like you're ok with whatever happens?

It feels like you got to a UTR position early and then just kind of faded and let the game state sort of flow from there cuz there wasn't really any danger to you anymore.

like I dunno maybe this is how you play town and you are actually town here but then like wtf r the scum even doing in this game?

This scumread is really big picturey, do you have specific posts of tris that reflect that or ones you don't like for other reasons?

This is probably gonna have to be a PoE/least towny vote for me come end of day. Sorry, I know you hate those, Pooky.

GOOD THING we know there's scum in this group

[Infinity 324]

For the andres meta, I felt like he wasn't as assertive or good at handling pressure as scum. I kinda forgot about it earlier tbh but it still had a big impact on my read. I forget how different reading people is when you don't know their meta

[Sha 77]

Nah, I haven't ruled out 5 town yet. It's possible both scum are outside but are really good hagglers, and managed to convince Isis to overlook the earlier "win"

[tris]

pooky, how would you compare me in this game to the coalition game?

I think you're more townie than the coalition game but

you felt like you never got very involved in that

.

how so?

[Sha 77]

For the andres meta, I felt like he wasn't as assertive or good at handling pressure as scum. I kinda forgot about it earlier tbh but it still had a big impact on my read. I forget how different reading people is when you don't know their meta

Any reason you didn't bring it up after you did the research?

[tris]

VOTE: pooky

is my best guess at the moment, and i feel uncomfortable having not voted yet

[Infinity 324]

For the andres meta, I felt like he wasn't as assertive or good at handling pressure as scum. I kinda forgot about it earlier tbh but it still had a big impact on my read. I forget how different reading people is when you don't know their meta

Any reason you didn't bring it up after you did the research?

I had done the research before this game started

[Sha 77]

Ah, for a previous game?

[Infinity 324]

Yes

[Flea The Magician]

See I know activity isn't AI for you, but I'm getting a vibe for how to read you.

That wall of bricks was what I was hoping for honestly.

UNVOTE: Ydrasse

[Flea The Magician]

flea, if you think i’m scummy, but think andres is weird:

1) what is weird and is it scummy or towny
2) if scummy, does ydrasse/andres make sense as a team?

I found that bit to be SAI but I'm aware I have bias there at the moment and I'm trying to negate it.
I'd have to go over the interactions to answer that accurately, for now it's not dismissable.

[Flea The Magician]

Ngl I'm getting Death Curse feels here, feeling way out of my depth for some reason.

VOTE: Pooky - When the bear is apathetic, the bear is scumz.

[Infinity 324]

Pooky feels like the way they played matrix decipher