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[jjh927]

No? Again, it was gonna be massclaim today, and scum!me would expect an inno on basically anyone who wasn't a scumbuddy or a known PR

You were definitely on the list of people who were getting elimed in the near future

[jjh927]

Cool, but it was pretty much decided it was gonna be today to coincide with me running out of shots while people wanted to know why Mastina townread me so hard

[jjh927]

I was under the impression that the only unclaimed town PRs were myself and quite probably Hopkirk

[jjh927]

Why would I target you and not a scumbuddy I could claim an inno on?

[jjh927]

Okay so was I suspicious that you were a PR then? Or was I suspicious that you might pull a gambit as a VT and claim PR? Or what?

[jjh927]

I'd probably take that gamble and double down on it by shooting A50, personally

[jjh927]

Are these actually stupid questions? Because I'm asking them because I think you're giving completely disingenuous logic here to justify an indefensible position

[jjh927]

Okay massclaim is today but utilizing ur check to find prs and prevent gambits is still a good thing for scum

Let's go back to this

[jjh927]

I agree those are technically good things for scum

How does scum!me targeting you specifically achieve them

[jjh927]

Why would I target you for this end

[jjh927]

Do I think you're likely to be a PR? Do I think you're likely to gambit in a specific way that the check prevents?

Are there any risks to scum!Me if you turn out not to be a PR?

[jjh927]

You have to target someone, might as well target someone who might be a pr

Right but it runs a significant risk of conftowning whoever I point it at? So why does scum!Me target you with an action that conftowns you the huge majority of the time?

[jjh927]

Like, you're still scumreading me now in this situation where I am functionally conftown

Why would I want you to be conftown and not someone else?

[jjh927]

Why didn't scum!Me target Mastina if I was PR fishing? I knew Mastina had no mechanical reason for TRing me- it was entirely that she caught me crumbing my result on Hopkirk. If I was gonna conftown someone wouldn't she have been a great choice for scum!me?

[jjh927]

Ultimately, I used my action selfishly because Titus doesn't need to be conftown and Ythan pretty much already is. Neither of them are getting elimed.

If I'm holding an investigative PR then I'm gonna use it to enhance my own reads- it's not primarily for the benefit of other people who I can convince with or without a hard result

[jjh927]

Tbf I think Hopkirk should claim here before we elim agar

[jjh927]

I think there is benefit to Hopkirk claiming here and the risk of scum counterplay is close to 0

[jjh927]

So, who was actually targeted by the vanilla cop then?

[jjh927]

I mean, who in the game has at any point been targeted by the vanilla cop

Not specifically last night

[jjh927]

Hmm okay

[jjh927]

actually on reflection I should just trash this line of reasoning, we're all good

[jjh927]

I thought there was a chance your whole VT claiming stuff in response to A50 gambiting at you might have been because you were checked by an announcing vanilla cop. . . but if it was then I'm pretty sure you'd have mentioned that as a reason it was clearly a gambit, so you're all good

[jjh927]

VOTE: Agar

[jjh927]

My 2 checks were me looking at people I scumread hoping I was wrong so I could clear them which didn't really work out so well, huh