MT 2203: Grand Idea Upick: Awakening [Endgame]

[Raya36]

Um what? You don't believe my claim?

[Guillotina]

I don't at all.

How could you have found out Kid's role on Night 4 when he was converted to Jester on Night 4. That's impossible!

Great job but you slipped.

[Raya36]

#10216
That's the number btw

[Raya36]

I got Jester, 2-Shot Day Vigilante, 1-Shot Jailkeeper for kid

[Raya36]

@Ircher:

Hypothetically if an investigator of the role number I just gave were to have checked Kidamn on the night they were converted to jester, would they have gotten jester as one of the results, or their original role as one of the results?

Answered by PM.
~Ircher

[Raya36]

This should prove it to you

[Guillotina]

#10216
That's the number btw

That is the second lie. You die Raya.

Signs up began March 23rd as shown here: viewtopic.php?p=12671756#p12671756

The rule was that you could pick any roles that were posted before the sign ups date

The role you picked was posted three days later: viewtopic.php?p=12676474#p12676474



Yah.... fake claim not accepted.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Raya36

[Ircher]

Day 6 VC #2

Flea The Magician (0) -
Raya36 (1) - Guillotina (2006)
Not Voting (4) - Flea The Magician, CaptainS, mahimahi, Raya36

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to execute a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Monday, May 3, 2021 8:00:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-05-03 20:00:00).

This phase will end no earlier than Friday, April 23, 2021 8:00:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-04-23 20:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: As a reminder, please try to avoid multiposting in a row as that can clutter the thread and make it harder for people who are behind to catch up. Try to combine smaller posts into one larger post.
3: Please try to avoid using the L-word. Alternatives like eliminate, fade, launch, etc. are highly encouraged.
4: Guillotina is V/LA from the beginning of April 29 to the end of May 2.

Pronoun Key

1. mahimahi : They/Them
2. Flea the Magician : Fae/Faer (Preferred) or They/Them
3. Raya36 : She/Her
5. Guillotina : He/Him
12. CaptainS : Any/Any

[Flea The Magician]

Guillo hyper mode as usual I see. I'm happy for mass claim, we wanting an order or...?

[Guillotina]

Guillo hyper mode as usual I see. I'm happy for mass claim, we wanting an order or...?

I really hope there is only one scum left otherwise we already loss.

Vote Raya please.

[Flea The Magician]

(In hindsight captain was a bad check but whatever. Mahi would have been better to figure out how to eliminate them but I've been ignoring them the whole game)

yes... yes they would have. Why didn't you?

[Flea The Magician]

Guillo hyper mode as usual I see. I'm happy for mass claim, we wanting an order or...?

I really hope there is only one scum left otherwise we already loss.

Vote Raya please.

dunno on the already lost part... I'm convinced Mahi is alien prince. There's got to be a way to remove them otherwise the game would be called by now.

I don't at all.

How could you have found out Kid's role on Night 4 when he was converted to Jester on Night 4. That's impossible!

Great job but you slipped.

Depends on NAR for that one.

@Mod: What's your NAR look like for this game? Including conversions please

#10216
That's the number btw

That is the second lie. You die Raya.

Signs up began March 23rd as shown here: viewtopic.php?p=12671756#p12671756

The rule was that you could pick any roles that were posted before the sign ups date

The role you picked was posted three days later: viewtopic.php?p=12676474#p12676474



Yah.... fake claim not accepted.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Raya36

This is a good catch though...

You mind if I wait on mod response, guill?

Question answered by PM.
~Ircher

[Guillotina]

Things that grew my suspicion on Raya yesterday, she tried to derail KidAmn's yeet by suggesting Flea whom we knew nothing about.

Those suspicions grew today when I didn't die, me, who suggested that we should yeet CaptainS is case it was scum theater he and KidAmn.
And instead TemporalLich died who said that he townread CaptainS even more.
They needed CaptainS as the last misyeet and that was not going to happen with Temporal alive and she thought she'd be able to persuade me into yeeting CaptainS today.

Other things of note: I deliberately stated that the scum had to be between Raya OR KidAmn but in reality I had both of them as the most possible scum team, in fact I had to choose between killing Kid and Raya on Night 3.

I believe Raya thought that she could pocket me further yesterday when Mahi didn't die and I was getting suspected by Temporal and she defended me, when it was natural for Temporal to suspect me, I would have suspected me too, but Raya had unrealistic faith on me.

I don't think she expected me to turn on her today the way I did and to pressure her into claiming, where she disastrously fake claimed.

Raya, you played a great game but... townies with the "influence" you had in the game enough to save my butt and getting people to back off from misyeeting a wild card like me don't last this long. It's unrealistic that you survive this long if town.

[Guillotina]

Guillo hyper mode as usual I see. I'm happy for mass claim, we wanting an order or...?

I really hope there is only one scum left otherwise we already loss.

Vote Raya please.

dunno on the already lost part... I'm convinced Mahi is alien prince. There's got to be a way to remove them otherwise the game would be called by now.

I don't at all.

How could you have found out Kid's role on Night 4 when he was converted to Jester on Night 4. That's impossible!

Great job but you slipped.

Depends on NAR for that one.

@Mod: What's your NAR look like for this game? Including conversions please

#10216
That's the number btw

That is the second lie. You die Raya.

Signs up began March 23rd as shown here: viewtopic.php?p=12671756#p12671756

The rule was that you could pick any roles that were posted before the sign ups date

The role you picked was posted three days later: viewtopic.php?p=12676474#p12676474



Yah.... fake claim not accepted.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Raya36

This is a good catch though...

You mind if I wait on mod response, guill?

I don't mind but I'm not removing my vote, you should know by now that the stuffed lion killer mode is final.

[Raya36]

@Guillotine: you should pm ircher the same question I asked. I forgot the rule of pming hypotheticals

(In hindsight captain was a bad check but whatever. Mahi would have been better to figure out how to eliminate them but I've been ignoring them the whole game)

yes... yes they would have. Why didn't you?

Because I keep ignoring mahi as confscum and someone for guillo to deal with which unfortunately still isn't working. I was more in the mindset of sorting the unconfirmed

I'll respond to your case on me later Guillo. Phone posting right now. I am town though and my claim is honest. Look back at how I treated korina after I got my elite cult leader result on them

[Flea The Magician]

I don't mind but I'm not removing my vote, you should know by now that the stuffed lion killer mode is final.

Yeah I know killer teddy mode

[Flea The Magician]

OK I got my response, waiting on a follow up.

[Guillotina]

@Guillotine: you should pm ircher the same question I asked. I forgot the rule of pming hypotheticals

(In hindsight captain was a bad check but whatever. Mahi would have been better to figure out how to eliminate them but I've been ignoring them the whole game)

yes... yes they would have. Why didn't you?

Because I keep ignoring mahi as confscum and someone for guillo to deal with which unfortunately still isn't working. I was more in the mindset of sorting the unconfirmed

I'll respond to your case on me later Guillo. Phone posting right now. I am town though and my claim is honest. Look back at how I treated korina after I got my elite cult leader result on them

I don't need to ask anything, I know I caught you fake claiming.

[Raya36]

You didn't catch a fake claim

[Guillotina]

/in to mod

Game Name:

Grand Idea UPick

Flavor/Mechanics:

Upon signing up, you will send me three roles from the Grand Idea thread: one town, one mafia/werewolf (either alignment is fine), and one of any alignment (town, mafia, werewolf, alien, third party, etc.).

The roles should be selected from those that existed before the game entered signups.

Roles that allow the moderator to choose the alignment are also allowed for any of the three roles. You must link to the post when submitting your role; please don't just send me the name of the role. I also reserve the right to veto any role for being overpowered, toxic, or otherwise unsuitable for the game. For each player, I will randomize which role they get out of the three they sent me using a weighted average (65% town, 20% mafia/werewolf, and 15% other). If the setup has fewer than 7 town, I will rerand the setup. Balance is explicitly not guaranteed.

Your Experience:

A full list is on my wiki page; most recent is SIR Disease Mafia

Current Modding Commitments:

I'm backup modding for TemporalLich's Grand Idea (a large theme game), but I think that's it.

Reviewed By:

Game doesn't need one.

Back-Up or Co-Mod:

lendunistus

I will find one at some point.

Number of Players:

13

Hydrae:

Yes, but all hydras must be explicitly approved by me.

Restrictions:

Wisdom of the Mod. Players will be expected not to excessively spam the thread; to enforce this, I will be running some experimental activity and deadline rules. (These rules are not finalized yet and may change before the game enters signups.)

Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics?

Yes; it's a grand idea variant.

Sign Ups Post

: viewtopic.php?p=12671756#p12671756
Date: March 23rd of 2021, 11:57 am.

Role That Raya Allegedly picked and got

: viewtopic.php?p=12676474#p12676474
Date: March 26th of 2021. 7:48 AM

[Raya36]

That was my mistake then

[Guillotina]

That was my mistake then

Too damn right girl, you should have had a better elaborated fake claim by now. When I'm scum, as soon as I get my role, I'm already thinking of my fake claim, what happened?

Oh yah... you were counting on having me in your pocket until the end huh? Ts ts ts ts.

[Raya36]

I know how to fakeclaim. I don't make that mistake as scum. I'd have partners to discuss my fakeclaim with. So even if I overlook that, chances are the rest wouldn't too.

I make that mistake when finding my picks in the GIM thread with the search bar.

[Guillotina]

I know how to fakeclaim. I don't make that mistake as scum. I'd have partners to discuss my fakeclaim with. So even if I overlook that, chances are the rest wouldn't too.

I make that mistake when finding my picks in the GIM thread with the search bar.

Sorry but I don't buy it.

Townies, I got us the last wolf, our win is at the door, you just have to slay Raya and claim her pelt as our ultimate trophy!

Please, don't gamethrow voting anyone else.

@CaptainS it took me a while to find you but I know you and flea are town because KidAmn spew you town and Raya tried getting Flea yeeted to save KidAmn, so flea is spewed not mafia aligned by Raya and to some extent by Kid too.

[Raya36]

Things that grew my suspicion on Raya yesterday, she tried to derail KidAmn's yeet by suggesting Flea whom we knew nothing about.

Those suspicions grew today when I didn't die, me, who suggested that we should yeet CaptainS is case it was scum theater he and KidAmn.
And instead TemporalLich died who said that he townread CaptainS even more.
They needed CaptainS as the last misyeet and that was not going to happen with Temporal alive and she thought she'd be able to persuade me into yeeting CaptainS today.

Other things of note: I deliberately stated that the scum had to be between Raya OR KidAmn but in reality I had both of them as the most possible scum team, in fact I had to choose between killing Kid and Raya on Night 3.

I believe Raya thought that she could pocket me further yesterday when Mahi didn't die and I was getting suspected by Temporal and she defended me, when it was natural for Temporal to suspect me, I would have suspected me too, but Raya had unrealistic faith on me.

I don't think she expected me to turn on her today the way I did and to pressure her into claiming, where she disastrously fake claimed.

Raya, you played a great game but... townies with the "influence" you had in the game enough to save my butt and getting people to back off from misyeeting a wild card like me don't last this long. It's unrealistic that you survive this long if town.

Now to this.

Kid was still just a jester so pushing Flea was perfectly fine.

If your theory that you lived because you scumread captain is correct then we should steer clear of a captain elim. They are for sure jesus. Your theory adds up to them being town.

I defended you because I know for absolute fact you're town. Your role only exists as town and it was one of the options in my result. I'm not trying to pocket you by defending you. You are literally conftown to me. Look at me as town with the role I claimed. It adds up perfectly. You're assuming I'm scum here. A case isn't viable if it makes sense for both town!me and scum!me.

If I felt pressured by you to fakeclaim I could have easily bought time by saying I wanted everyone to massclaim. That would have given scum more info too.

Guillo, realize I saved you from a miselim because I KNEW you were town because of my night result.

Can you do me a favour and at least PM Ircher about the jester result thing? At least then you'll believe me about that