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Post Post #2175 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:16 am

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In post 2172, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2171, VP Baltar wrote:lol can't wait for IV to read this
why exactly?
Pretty sure he was the one I was talking to yesterday who said you had to be crumbing a PR, and said he'd be very suspicious if it turned out to be VT when I mentioned that possibility.

Maybe it was Geraint? I can't recall now.
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Post Post #2176 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:23 am

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I don’t think scum would claim PR here when we so far have claims as:
Informed / Doctor / Roleblocker / Vigilante
Doesn’t leave much room for anything else, assuming it’s all legit. (Which i do think is the case)
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Post Post #2177 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:29 am

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Ok so regarding IV i’m not as confident on him as i am on Luca/Baltar. But i’m leaning town. I’ll probably only reconsider there if any of Gypyx/Ico are not scum.
My PoE right now is prob those two, and if that fails, Anya/Alice. And after that i guess IV or some other deepwolf but that is not an comfy world i hope i’ll need to consider, and George flipped scum anyway so i’m feeling pretty confident in my reads.
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Post Post #2178 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:36 am

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In post 2175, VP Baltar wrote:he'd be very suspicious if it turned out to be VT when I mentioned that possibility.
please quote me on this. i did not say this ever.
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Post Post #2179 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:37 am

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there's nothing wrong with Gypyx's claim?? Baltar what is your point?
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Post Post #2180 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:38 am

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I don’t think Ico’s read on Gypyx is very well developed which gives me vibes of criminal behaviour. And Gypyx’s townread on Ico is questionable too.
Ico thinks Luca is scum for what exactly? I wish he could elaborate further because none of it felt convincing.
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Post Post #2181 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:38 am

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In post 2174, Gypyx wrote:this litterally wasn't meant to be understood

maybe mentionning there was a possibility i crumbed vt was a decent idea, idk
it was obviously possible you crumbed VT. idk what baltar's talking about

and of course it wasn't meant to be understood, you literally told us that.
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Post Post #2182 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:40 am

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In post 1545, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1505, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1504, innocentvillager wrote:im not trying to figure out what it means

but it is clearly a role crumb

if he later says "oh lol that was just me trolling" i would insta-kill gypyx bc that's scummy

like he's basically committing to a claim there regardless
I mean, what if he just claims VT later and has some semi-plausible explanation for why that means VT? Gypyx has a weird mind, so I guess I don't see what he'd claim where he couldn't make SOMETHING sound ok.
never responded to this

but what do you think his intention is, as scum, is when posting that? i dont' think he's expecting to get townread for that post.

So as scum is it:

1) random nonsense where he's going to go "oh lol it was just a joke" at massclaim
2) an actual crumb of an actual role he has in mind
3) a super big brained move where it can actually crumb like, 5-10 different roles at once

1) - this is unbelievably scummy
2) - okay so this is the pigeonholing scenario we're talking about here, trapping himself into a claim. This i believe is the most likely scum!Gypyx scenario, like maybe his role/partners roles dictates that there's like 1 or 2 roles that he ever claims as scum here idk he's the setup guy.
3) - gj Gypyx i guess? Still pigeonholing himself into those specific roles i guess but it's not terrible

and the benefit of it is... towncred? really? how much towncred does he get from that
these were my thoughts on Gypyx's claim. it's possible that he was trying to claim multiple things at once, or for some reason just decided he was going to claim VT today
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Post Post #2183 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:40 am

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(if he's scum that is). i think on balance gypyx is probablytown but i haven't really thought about that slot in a while so id have to reevaluate
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Post Post #2184 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:45 am

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i'm actually confused on who Ico's partner is you all seem too city right now
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Post Post #2185 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:45 am

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In post 2109, Iconeum wrote:you've done nothing but try to scumspew me all day

datisi literally said he would have a solid townread on me after seeing GB flip scum so trying to paint that i benefit from a datisi kill is just either a terrible take or scum shading me
I mean it’s really just Luca explaining why it’s possible for scum!you to kill Datisi though? And that you haven’t been as town outside of that very minor point you brought up about you never killing Datisi as scum.
How does it make Luca scum?
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Post Post #2186 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:46 am

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can people in 2201 give me a summary of what happened there and how that affects your reads on people here? and if anyone had stuff they "couldn't talk about" bc of that ongoing game, now is the time
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Post Post #2187 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:46 am

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what if Luca and Ico are playing volleyball with each other
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Post Post #2188 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:46 am

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specifically Gypyx, Anya, Iconeum, Luca Blight, and RIP Datisi
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Post Post #2189 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:49 am

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In post 2178, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2175, VP Baltar wrote:he'd be very suspicious if it turned out to be VT when I mentioned that possibility.
please quote me on this. i did not say this ever.
Then it was Geraint. Someone I was having this convo with yesterday
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Post Post #2190 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:51 am

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In post 2188, innocentvillager wrote:specifically Gypyx, Anya, Iconeum, Luca Blight, and RIP Datisi
oh did that game end

who won????
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Post Post #2191 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:52 am

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no need i'll check it myself
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Post Post #2192 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:59 am

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see i told you ico's a wolf
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Post Post #2193 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:04 am

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In post 1504, innocentvillager wrote:im not trying to figure out what it means

but it is clearly a role crumb

if he later says "oh lol that was just me trolling" i would insta-kill gypyx bc that's scummy

like he's basically committing to a claim there regardless
baltar are you referring to this??
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Post Post #2194 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:05 am

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In post 2192, Anya wrote:see i told you ico's a wolf
why? was your read right on him that game or something?
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Post Post #2195 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:08 am

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What’s even the vote count?
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Post Post #2196 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:12 am

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In post 2182, innocentvillager wrote:these were my thoughts on Gypyx's claim. it's possible that he was trying to claim multiple things at once, or for some reason just decided he was going to claim VT today
Yes, actually this was the exchange I was referring to. (Sorry, half paying attention bc I'm at work)

I thought I remembered you saying you didn't think it'd be VT, but rereading the exchange fully, you didn't quite go that far.

I still think you are giving town points for something that was incredibly convoluted and fakeable to many directions as needed. But you didn't discount that VT could be a possibility
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Post Post #2197 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:09 am

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In post 2182, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1545, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1505, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1504, innocentvillager wrote:im not trying to figure out what it means

but it is clearly a role crumb

if he later says "oh lol that was just me trolling" i would insta-kill gypyx bc that's scummy

like he's basically committing to a claim there regardless
I mean, what if he just claims VT later and has some semi-plausible explanation for why that means VT? Gypyx has a weird mind, so I guess I don't see what he'd claim where he couldn't make SOMETHING sound ok.
never responded to this

but what do you think his intention is, as scum, is when posting that? i dont' think he's expecting to get townread for that post.

So as scum is it:

1) random nonsense where he's going to go "oh lol it was just a joke" at massclaim
2) an actual crumb of an actual role he has in mind
3) a super big brained move where it can actually crumb like, 5-10 different roles at once

1) - this is unbelievably scummy
2) - okay so this is the pigeonholing scenario we're talking about here, trapping himself into a claim. This i believe is the most likely scum!Gypyx scenario, like maybe his role/partners roles dictates that there's like 1 or 2 roles that he ever claims as scum here idk he's the setup guy.
3) - gj Gypyx i guess? Still pigeonholing himself into those specific roles i guess but it's not terrible

and the benefit of it is... towncred? really? how much towncred does he get from that
these were my thoughts on Gypyx's claim. it's possible that he was trying to claim multiple things at once, or for some reason just decided he was going to claim VT today
can you explain the problem with this logic then?
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Post Post #2198 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:10 am

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im not saying im right, ive just had it out there and like zero people have actually engaged with it or agreed
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Post Post #2199 (ISO) » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:46 am

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In post 2198, innocentvillager wrote:im not saying im right, ive just had it out there and like zero people have actually engaged with it or agreed
The problem is that gypyx could have made up literally any story to any role with such vague clues.

To me, it means nothing, and is perhaps even slightly negative? Why crumb VT at all?

Actually: Gypyx, do you crumb your role in every game you play?
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