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[innocentvillager]

you're kind of avoiding the root of why im townreading it by blanketly dismissing it as "it means nothing".

sure he *could've* made everything up

but, what's his intention when he posts it? i think this is a question people don't ask enough: why is someone doing X as scum/town? are you suggesting my 3rd scenario where he's planning a bunch of different possible claims with that crumb? are you suggesting a 4th intention, which is that he just made up random stuff, thinking that he could claim whatever later and tie it to that as complete and utter bullshit?

i think im starting to accept a reality where scum!Gypyx intentionally does a big brained move like that to claim like, one or two possible things. But I still cannot imagine it getting towncred. it's just such an unnecessary move. and if the logic was really THAT convoluted i can only think it might be met with skepticism in main thread.

[VP Baltar]

but, what's his intention when he posts it?

Because if he is forced to claim later and needs to claim a power role, he has a "crumb" that could be made to fit any role he wants.

"See guys, told you I was the Town cop!" Or whatever.

I don't even think it was a big brain plan, so much as something the master of crazy roles would cook up on a normal afternoon.

I'm not saying he can't be a VT here...just saying there is definitely motive to do that as scum.

[Gypyx]

Actually: Gypyx, do you crumb your role in every game you play?

haven't read the rest of the thread ftr just answering that

i almost never rolled PR, and even less a PR that doesn't straight up confirm itself / needs to be claimed late, so can't really say of often i crumb, but unless i have a reason to, i don't

but this is my first time crumbing VT, wanted to try something out, hopefully attract scum's attention, that sorta stuff

[VP Baltar]

but this is my first time crumbing VT, wanted to try something out, hopefully attract scum's attention, that sorta stuff

What made you want to crumb VT? When did you get the idea?

[Luca Blight]

The scum benefit to such a crumb is

1) no-one wants to lim you D1 in case you’re a pr

2) you can use it to explain away just about any claim that is convenient in the moment

If gypyx is scum then he’s hardly a power wolf, and so such a gimmick might prove useful to him to at least help him get through the first day

If he’s Town then he might do it to bait the NK I guess

[Luca Blight]

I’m struggling to stay interested rn

hnnnnnnnnnnng

i'm starting to want to sheep wooper for a bit someone kill me

pedit: ...

What sucks the most is that you’ll probably eat the NK and I won’t be able to sheep you tomorrow

just convince your scumbuddies to shoot someone other than me duh

Unfortunately I’m Town this game.

I’ll just have to use a hyper potion on you instead

I can only hope you have a guardian angel looking over you tonight

Fwiw I was trying to bait the NK/deter a Datisi kill here by crumbing protective with Datisi as my target, but I guess it didn’t work out too well lol

[Iconeum]

Not to mention the informed role

That’s a good point actually and supports my theory that gypyx was probably crumbing his scum pr role

i have no idea how you are coming to your conclusions this game

i literally cannot grasp it

[Luca Blight]

Well I explained above the benefits of such a crumb as scum

plus the fact I scumread gypyx both based on play and PoE and think he makes a lot of sense as your partner

[VP Baltar]

Not to mention the informed role

That’s a good point actually and supports my theory that gypyx was probably crumbing his scum pr role

i have no idea how you are coming to your conclusions this game

i literally cannot grasp it

Why are you townreading Gypyx?

[Luca Blight]

Not to mention the informed role

That’s a good point actually and supports my theory that gypyx was probably crumbing his scum pr role

i have no idea how you are coming to your conclusions this game

i literally cannot grasp it

This is a bit revisionist btw given you tr me and agreed with most of what I said up until I started suspecting you

[Iconeum]

yeah it's so strange that i go omgus right

[Iconeum]

#Town!Ico.never.does.that.

[Luca Blight]

Scum!icon certainly did it last game

but my point was you’re only saying that because I’m pushing you, as before then you tr me and agreed with most of what I said

[Luca Blight]

In before/i wouldn’t do the same thing as scum twice in a row

[Iconeum]

whatever

if this town needs my yeet to move on go for it

[Iconeum]

i'm not contributing much anyway

[AliceK]

Imo 1-2 scums in {gypex, Ico, iv}. Could be that there is a deepwolf somewhere, but that's something to focus in p5/p3

[VP Baltar]

Imo 1-2 scums in {gypex, Ico, iv}. Could be that there is a deepwolf somewhere, but that's something to focus in p5/p3

Luca and I have basically already said this. Can I get a full reads list from you and your thoughts on Gypyx's claim?

[VP Baltar]

whatever

if this town needs my yeet to move on go for it

Why are you not answering my question and only focusing on Luca?

Why are you not trying to convince others Luca is scum beyond "he is attacking me"?

If you're town, you seem like you're just giving up and IDK what I'm supposed to do with that. I don't feel like I'm engaging you in bad faith here.

[Luca Blight]

@mods: a VC would be appreciated

[geraintm]

sorry for being mostly absent today.

im not voting for gypyx anytime today. they;ll be found out later if it is fake.

i think i still kinda am on innocent villager myself. i've not seen nayone else in the game who i want to follow.

[Luca Blight]

sorry for being mostly absent today.

im not voting for gypyx anytime today. they;ll be found out later if it is fake.

What?

Do you realize gypyx claimed vt?

[innocentvillager]

okay sorry i have been pretty busy lately

but the amount of PoEs i have creeped into DESPITE what happened yesterday is absolutely fucking outstanding

someone legitimately push a fucking case on me for what happened yesterday jesus christ

[Luca Blight]

I could say the same about me being in your PoE, IV

[innocentvillager]

but, what's his intention when he posts it?

Because if he is forced to claim later and needs to claim a power role, he has a "crumb" that could be made to fit any role he wants.

"See guys, told you I was the Town cop!" Or whatever.

I don't even think it was a big brain plan, so much as something the master of crazy roles would cook up on a normal afternoon.

I'm not saying he can't be a VT here...just saying there is definitely motive to do that as scum.

The scum benefit to such a crumb is

1) no-one wants to lim you D1 in case you’re a pr

2) you can use it to explain away just about any claim that is convenient in the moment

If gypyx is scum then he’s hardly a power wolf, and so such a gimmick might prove useful to him to at least help him get through the first day

If he’s Town then he might do it to bait the NK I guess

to clarify you are both arguing that, IF HE IS SCUM, he literally crumbed NONSENSE, thinking that he would be able to spin it into any claim he wanted. And that somehow it would get him towncred. That's literally what you're both saying. Is that correct?